MTA Maryland (Baltimore, MD): 2019 NovaBus LFS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2019
- For the first time in 15 years, MDOT/MTA will be ordering buses from a manufacturer not named New Flyer - with the exception of MCI motor coaches (2011) & Optima Opus (2006).
In 2018, NOVA was awarded a contract poised to have a total of 350 buses built over a five-year period (70 units per year) beginning in 2020. In the meantime, two coaches were built as introduction demos for MTA to inspect & spec-out the two units to their liking before mass production is underway. The 40-foot standard "LFS" and 60-foot "LFS-Articulated" (both with the LFX's BRT-style streamline roof facade design). For the incoming first order in 2020, 'thirty' (30 units) LFSes & 'forty' (40 units) LFS-As will be delivered to retire the remaining D40LFs & DE60LFRs. Every other year (2021-2024) afterwards will see 40-foot units (280 total during the process) only.
Currently, LFS #20001 and LFS-A #20031 are technically 2020-made coaches but built in 2019 for introductory purposes as seen here. Keep in mind, NOVA is in-conjuction with Prevost (motor coach manufacturer); whereas, both are under the parental ownership(?) of the Swedish "VolvoGroup".
There are many, many significant changes for MTA; all of us in Maryland, to get use to that stands apart from New Flyer in so many ways but I think we all have a feeling that these buses; properly spec-ed & all, are what we wanted all along. How they'll handle themselves over the course of 12-15 years is up to Prevost & MDOT/MTA to make that distinction.
There is so much to go through about the NOVAs that explaining it in the description of this video is useless, so seeing is believing.
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I'll be making my way down Maryland to ride those. Can't wait til they enter service.
Nice!!! , once we get our budgetary issues taken care of, hopefully MCTS here in Milwaukee orders these once we get our second batch of Gillig BRT'S next spring and our battery electric buses at the end of next year, or by early 2021 so we can have some fleet diversity again. Good job with the footage man 😎👍
Awesome video and Nice new mta bus
I can't wait to see how it run and sound once it's in service.
I Wish That Broward County Transit Had Buses Like This
YESSSSS! BRAND NEW NOVA IN BALTIMORE! Which Is It In 2021 Novas Or New Flyers I Bet Nova And These Came To Early Wow Its A Nice Magnificent Bus!
@Sonic57053 The Transit Fanner HEV Got Humps and back window its a diesel not a HEV
Jeeeezzzz!!! The Cummins is smokin hot!!
The TTC has 153 of these, YRT's Viva BRT service has 51 of them and Mississauga Transit has 30 of them.
I love how Maryland is putting LCD monitors on all the buses
Omg wattttt 😍😍😍
Really nice bus. A lot better than new flyer. Nova bus, owned and backed by Volvo technology, are the highest quality transit bus on the us market. With 90% us content these novas will be hard to beat!!!
They look so cool about time we have better buses and i can wait to ride them and they better work
wow great footage and I agree with the other comment i hope these are not problematic
clsumjr ross exactly I hope not cause I want to drive something else besides the new flyers
They are very problematic and always have been! I don’t know why the USA allowed NewFlyer and Nova to take over all the American bus companies! Now all we have is Gillig! Those are some great units
I do agree. New Flyer for the most has gain a monopoly in the bus manufacturing world but a company Gillig is better off the way it is. Maybe come up with a new design but don't leave the comfort zone. The lack diversity though sorta create "mirage" issues - if you catch my drift - when there's really only two BIG NAME bus makers leading the charge.
I Would Love To See NJT Get 40ft Gilligs Diesels In Their Fleet Both Transit and Suburban Configurations. Gilligs Are Very Good and Dependable Buses
If or whenever Gillig decides to redesign or introduce a new design to their production line then a lot of TAs will look into them.
@@MJofLakelandX True That Because That Low Floor Design Was Out Since 1998. Literally.
What do you mean by redesign? What does Gillig need to change to be considered by MTA?
Nice bus. I wish NJT got some of these.
Y'all hometown will get them as well
@@andrewcrane2786 That would be nice
New York city have their Nova busses in service already its sound great..
A fantastic bus. Haven’t hop on this bus because I am from Los Angeles, California. This bus could use Hollywood movies and television series posters such as Ad Astra (20th Century Fox/Regency), Mr. Inbetween (FX Network), American Horror Story: 1984 (FX Network/20th Century Fox Television), 9-1-1 (Fox Broadcasting Company/20th Century Fox Television), Pose (FX Network), Impeachment: American Crime Story (FX Network), Frozen II (Disney), and more of the posters of Hollywood movies and television series.
I wish CT could get the 40ft version of the LFS someday.
Whoa😎 these are nice. Are we getting these on the streets?
Ant_ B not until 2020
Where's the radiator?
Man I wish CTA could get articulated buses from Nova Bus
They really should consider it. CTA could use more 60 footers.
Is CTA set to get more Nova 40 ft. buses in the near ?
@@quincexl1279 Agreed, CTA has articulated buses that has been in service since 2008 (New Flyer DE60LF) and they still rum pretty good
@@raymondj.2351 CTA already completed their order of the 7900 series Nova Bus LFS. 7900 - 8324 between 2014-2015 & 8225 - 8349 early 2019
You need to put a video, how to start the this bus
I have a question would you ever consider doing videos on MCDOT Ride-On Buses
I have several but I do need to take a trip back down there. Sometime this year, I'll try to focus more on Ride-On but I'm also trying to wait til their BRT line begins.
I’m currently working for ride-on but I’m from and live in Baltimore I’m waiting for MTA hiring to reopen
I wonder if any of the 60s will run on LocalLink routes. LocalLink could use quite a few on most days. And this seems to have that wrap unless this will be the default look from now on.
And what's this? Seats behind the driver? Haven't seen that since the high floor NABI's that will take some getting used to!
Still no back window?! Come on MTA. Lol
I see they got the redesigned driver window. Unless Nova made it the standard now.
NJ Transit is getting 60ft New Flyers.
Septa in Philly have 40 and 60 ft Nova buses, there ok i rather have the New Flyer 60 ft.
Also the front seat behind the driver could be dangerous because if he hit the brakes your gonna bang your head against the front wall thats why Septa turned it to a one seat facing the isle.
I Haven't Seen Any NJT New Flyers Articulated Buses On The Street Although The Order Was 180 Artics Combined Within A 2 Year Period. I Believe Both Transit and Suburban Configurations If Memory Serves.
I've thought that with seats. They could have had one seat facing sideways but these two are introductory models. The configuration of some things may change.
NJT. Getting Newflyers that's a first.
Calina Hernandez at 10:41 I see what you are talking about and I agree, that's a weird place to put some forward facing seats
MJofLakeland1 & Randy G
New York City Transit has Nova Articulated buses and they're seats are facing forward as well. I like what Septa did with the front seat by making it face the Isle
What's the engine and transmission on these, Cummins L9/Allison B500R?
Yes, You're Right
GarbageSean Unknown to date, but all I can confirm is that they have the Cummins L9 as it’s the standard engine cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Maryland_Transit_Administration#On_order
@Sonic57053 Transit & Gaming So the 2020 Novabus LFS 40102 Diesel Has Cummins L9 w/ Allison B3400xFE, And The 2020 Novabus LFSA 60102 Diesel Has Cummins L9 w/ Allison B500R6 For MTA Maryland
These are not hybrids.
In Baltimore we stop ordering hybrids in 2014 sir sonic
Need to Know Marcopolo G7 or Neobus
Quick question at 20:35 Is this a screen up at the top
Yup
I hope we don’t have any problems with these
Haven't heard too many complaints about the LFS's in New York so these hopefully should hold up for the most part, I'm glad to see that unlike MTA NYC's buses, the Streamlined Shell running across the entire roof line of Baltimore's Novas, it makes the Bus look a whole lot better😊😊
OMG😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
I have a question that some people may or may not find stupid. Can you drift an articulated bus? It’s rear wheel drive ain’t it?
Yes.... when it's wet. In-fact I drifted a D40LF in black ice once and one inside the division after a bus came out of the wash bay -- both by accident!
Is the NOVA 40ft a CNG model? because we have them oof
It's a Clean Diesel model, the CNG version has a section of the roofline that will be a little higher than what's seen here because of the Storage Tank.
Raymond J. - Calgary Transit has a few of these
Is this the pre-production model
Pretty much but these two are officially MTA's. The rest may have some subtle changes but overall will look pretty similar.
@@MJofLakelandX dude are these delivered from the dealer in Maryland
I wonder if WMATA will order any.
I want WMATA to get a NOVABUS LFS
engineersdash8 501 nope they will be getting new flyers XDs
Same wish we were getting some Nova buses for a change
@@MWTransitVids Well, Ride-On is getting artic LFSAs in the near future, so hopefully WMATA will not be too far behind.
Nova LFS's or even the recently purchased Eldorado buses for LACMTA, either one of those choices would be nice for the WMATA, we'll know what's next after the XD60's come on board.
I thought that they would get XD60 or XDE60 for test demo
MTA Hasn't ordered any XDE60's since 2012 of which there are 10 in the current roster the others are DE60LFRs (12). I'm excited for the change since NABI (1996) and Neoplan (2002) were retired in 2016 and 2017 respectively.
@@Rebelnightwolfe i think they kept only one NABI and ALL the neos retired
One Question How do They Get these"BUSES"?
They order it from NOVA
@@TheDoumaDono Oh thx bro.
@@acegaming694 its a pre-production vehicle so they can check it for problems but your welcome :)
@@TheDoumaDono So they did it on every bus because the long ones I Bet THEY CUT IT THE BUSES AND CONNECTED THEM TOGETHER.
@@TheDoumaDono I change my name to ace?
I hope and pray that MTA dont put these buses on the school trip cause they will get messed up. Kirk division get them, they be on the 120
I see MTA has retired the old 2004 2005 flyers I haven't seen in service for while that mean the Navo ready come into service now.. i don't like those hard seats at all. They are uncomfortable
So already they have problems. They need starters
**sees LFSA**
Why the two-door option?
@Sonic57053 Transit & Gaming And?
@Sonic57053 Transit & Gaming What does it change?
@Curtis J. Livingston, III I'm aware of _what._ I don't understand *why.*
@Sonic57053 Transit & Gaming Stop trolling because you commented on my video saying it's a hybrid.
@@sonicboy678, Not all LFSAs have to have three doors. SEPTA and MTAMD got the normal two doors. Thank god.
benjamin hernandez
Imagine if America still used Trolleys
There are still Trolley buses being used. The ones that I can still remember are Seattle, San Fransico, and Philadelphia
@@m3lgar582 Boston also.
Jeeze. Why such a hideous utilitarian dashboard? They didn't even bother with backlighting, just half assed little lights on the top there. Van Hools from 17 years ago had more modern dashboards lol.
Have you seen the ones on the 2nd Gen NABIs?
Nah! Looks like a barge with wheels. And, what is that in the back on top? A cooling tower? Better go back to the design table on that! Cheap, thin seats, toggle switches (really?!) instead of nicer rocker switches. Nova bus has NEVER built anything original. Their first bus, the Classic, was a GM New Look with a different front end. For years, they maintained those slanted 1960's side windows. Then, they produced the RTS II. An outdated jalopy that GM and TMC gave up. Now, they are copying Volvo technology while importing most parts from Canada. Give me a Gillig BRT or New Flyer Excelsior anyday. Both 100 percent manufactured in the U. S.
I mean...
*The back-end is a cooling ventilation for the engine bay
*Toggle switches are virtually the same as "rocket" switches
*Cheap thin seats are a design chosen by MTA to prevent the infestation of bugs & diseases due to the cushion seats sticking to fabric clothing; this makes it easier to clean whilst using disinfectants
*GMDD ousted their bus production line and sold the rights to TMC, then onward to Nova to continue producing the same model to maintain stored parts (...this will become a trend)
*Slanted sliding windows for the driver are nearly identical to what you'll find on an XCELSIOR
*RTS series was the best selling and most produced model of transit coaches in North America when Nova took over the model in 1995 and continued stacking profit with the sale of spare parts & newer buyers purchasing it until production was ceased in 2004
*Equally to most U.S. manufacturers, Nova has kept the same design to decrease the costs on building a new production line and to maintain replacement parts for transit agencies at a "cheaper" rate for the older equipment to continue running (...but I do understand the need for a new design)
*Gillig has kept the same design since 1996 with the ONE option of a face-lift (...I do like Gillig tho, so no harm there), similar to what New Flyer did for 30 years upon the production of the Xcelsior in 2011 (ex.: D900, D40HF, D40LF, D40LFR)
*Nova IS owned by Volvo Group, so YES, they will use the same tech as any Prevost or Volvo-made bus in Europe
*Nova buses are assembled in Great Plains, NEW YORK -- it's in the same circumstance as New Flyer having plants in Ontario and St. Cloud, Minnesota... again it's 100% produced in the U.S.
...But, I do appreciate the comment as always. Thanks for watching as well.
@@MJofLakelandX I do like the video, no doubt. How they test the parameters BEFORE they make a large order is definitely a great management decision. I do like your video, you get to watch the examination/testing process.
But.... In my heart, I'll always be a Flexible Metro fan. Sorry! AND!!! I DO LOVE your MTA 9526 videos! I put on a pair of Sony digital headphones ($200) and hear that Detroit Series 50 prowess--pure Heaven!
Thanks for the great videos, hope to see more!
@@chadkring2734 It's fine. It's not to come across as brash or harsh. I respect your opinion but it was a couple of things I had to challenge.
I'll always respect & appreciate the comments rather to correct me or state something. I do apologize if I came across as aggressive. It wasn't my intentions.