Shall we bankrupt ourselves to save this abandoned Chateau? - Chateau Life 🏰 EP 272
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- A completely derelict Chateau that we always wanted has potentially come on the market so we need to make some serious decisions; can it be saved and if it can do we risk bankruptcy to do it?
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Phil, I would run! Away! Far away! 😂 You still have a lifetime of projects, and a life to enjoy in your beautiful home. The abandoned chateau is a romantic dream that could turn your idyllic current situation into an expensive nightmare. IMHO.
I’m with everyone else. Stay where you are, continue renovations, re-build the missing wing, have summer concerts, work at your bar, save your money….❤
I would definitely stay there. If it were me I`d be looking to rebuild the missing wing.
It really does break my heart seeing so many chateau crumbing away. Such a shame that the costs to restore them is so high, making it impossible to save them all. Not only the money, but the time and efforts can be draining on your life. The answer is within you and your stamina to continue on. Sad thing is, by the time you complete any efforts to save a chateau there is no time to enjoy it, we don't live forever.
Blame bureaucracy and insane taxes.
@@stephjezo6470 Yes sadly!
Your chateau is stunning Phil and I think it deserves your full attention for now 😊
Stay where you are and make the Chateau the very best it can be and enjoy your efforts.
You answered your own question multiple time. It is clear from your vlogs that the existing home and pub are burdensome at times. Do you really want to add another project? Only do so if you are willing to be "owned" by a money pit, just for the fun of the task. Just because Billy Petherick and Dan Preston are doing money pit projects for fun, does not mean you need to do so as well.
Lisa, you have expressed my thoughts exactly. Phil, these are very difficult times for you, esecially as you are alone so much. I understand your thoughts about the other chateau completely. Starting anew may seem like an "out". Please "weather this out" until this long Winter has turned to Spring. We ALL have had a very hard time of it lately, e.g. here in CA, USA. on the Monterey Peninsula. Another atmospheric river is coming over us and we are contending with flooding and power outages constantly. Friends have had no electricity for ten days now. That means they have no heat, no home-cooked breakfast/dinner food, no warm showers and STILL have to fulfill their, in this case, medical professions. Medical appts. have been cancelled due to power outages. We live in a beautiful place and so do YOU. We are holdiing on as best we can. Please do hold on and concentrate on what you HAVE! May God bless you and send you inspiraton! Patricia
Phil there only one way to look at the answer to your next challenge that is your health its the most precious thing we all have but would you be taking on to much ? I watch many renovations and the thing that stands out is the way people get stressed I’ll health by doing or taking on to much give it some thought ..
Go on hahahaha. I dare you. 😇✌️😵😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure TH-cam will provide lol. Personally feel that there is plenty of support for Phil and Angelina here on TH-cam and therefore they will generate an incredible series of content that we will all be fascinated with. What an incredible property Phil, good luck. Get Billy and Michael and even Stephanie involved. Such a shame there’s so much bad feelings between the chateau diy participants and Angel and Dick otherwise there would be 30 million viewers, a Facebook group with a million members and infinite Tv airtime. Maybe aligning allegiance with billy and Michael it has impacted your income? Wishing you well and every success.
It has to be said that the projects which Billy and Dan are taking on, are also insuring they do not run out of vlogging material, which will bring in money for the duration. Once one chateau is done, end of vlogging carreer until another is found. So Phil is probably in the best situation for self funding, right now, if he takes it on. In that detail, this is probably the best time, if he decided to do it. There is also the issue of equipment; right now he has good contacts to borrow anything he doesn't have, and while I do think he is possibly being influenced by the others taking on a ruin, he may need this at this time, ie for the camaderie of the other guys. Without meaning to be personal, I think Phil's biggest drain recently is being lonely while Angelina is working at the pub. A huge project is easier when 2 of you are there. I would assume that if he bought this new chateau, it would mean he would be doing most of it alone while Angelina continued with the pub for some years yet, so if he is set on doing it, now has to be the best time to go for it. But whether it is sensible for him to do so, or not, only Phil can answer that question!!
Beyond the money it would take, the road noise kills it for me - unless you’re goal is to turn it into a hotel where accessibility is a plus. Your location seems so peaceful and pretty I’d stay put.
a row or two of fast growing pine will deal with the road noise. As well as block the view of the road
The noise is because he was standing next to the road. I no think is noisy.
I agree. It is what I would dislike about Chateau de Lalecel (sp?). too
Mate u won't turn that into a profitable hotel. 😵💫
Bailleul isn't far from a major commercial highway (see Google Maps).
Location IS everything.
It was a dream, that time is gone. Yes it’s sad to see it in ruin, you cannot save them all. Your home is beautiful, peaceful and still needs you! ❤️🇨🇦
Phil, that’s a difficult one! I would stay with your chateau. Continue working on it and perhaps, add back the missing wing.
But he doesn't own it...
@@FlowerBot I knew at beginning he didn't, but I thought that had changed. So if he doesn't own it, I think that would swing it for me to buy the other one, were I in his shoes! All that work put into someone else's property! I hope they get rent free lifelong tenancy for doing all that work, and hopefully could continue to live there whilst doing up the derelict one. ( if that is what he decides to do.)
@@FlowerBot he doesn't? Damn! I wouldnt put all that work into something I didn't own that's crazy!
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Then is Phil renting it, paid partially by his labor?
@@FlowerBotthought he did now, just contractually not allowed to say
This place calls to your heart but she is a siren leading you to run upon rocks. Stay the course with your current chateau. Keep refining what you have. Eventually, another more viable place will become available and you will be able to envision it feasibility to its end. Impulsiveity is not your friend in either matters of the heart or your pocket.
Just a thought, but after thinking about it, I realized that you and so many of your friends are restoring chateaus and have all learned so much along the way (good and bad). Is it possible to have a group all do it together? A labor of love for all, saving a chateau, and bringing all of your strengths to the table, with a TH-cam channel as well of course. Love to all from California❤
If it was me, my first priority would be to stay and have enough with this. If this is not satisfying, get together with the Petherics and other resourcefull people and make it into a hotel or something.
New channel, "How to flip a chateau"
20 years ago we bought a holiday home in Normandy that I adore - didn’t need too much work, only decoration & nicer furniture. Yet I have never stopped thinking about the first house we viewed. We took the sensible decision as it needed so much work & would have been a money pit but it has always stayed with me & I wonder ‘what if’.
Only you can make the decision not us as it is you that will have to live with either a lifetime of regret or a lifetime of hard work & debt. Bon courage!
Mic drop!
Best comment and advice! Merci!
I love this advice ❤
true. The other way round also true: If you buy a place which is extremely risky then look back and say what if I had stayed in the first place. I think it is good to go for the place you love most as long as risks are not extreme. I mean why bankrupt yourself for a house? That's just not worth it.
It’s a very personal decision. If my heart were screaming at me to buy it I would, provided I had the resources and the energy to tackle the project. Otherwise, I’d finish my existing chateau and keep an eye out until I was prepared to sell my current chateau.
If he owns the chateau, he could sell it.
If he rents, then where would he find the money to buy a ruined chateau?
I've had this issue, though on a much more humble scale but, for me and mine, it was big enough to give us all pause and forced us to carefully consider. In the end, we chose not to do it, and looking back, it was the right choice. It was an old house we'd lived in when I was small but it had burned down. My father had started another house on the same property and had never finished. We sold the property and moved on but, years later, it came up for sale. The new house had been finished, and the foundation for the old house had been turned into an outdoor barbeque area surrounded by roses and beds of flowers, it was all very beautiful and inviting. But we had a house already that needed work and we loved it too. We didn't want to leave it and it would have been a financial strain to try and renovate what we had plus pay for the old place. In the end, we chose not to do it. We restored the house we had and bought adjoining property instead, we built a barn and turned it into a lovely little farm. The old place was full of memories, yes, but....those memories still live there even if we didn't. We decided that we couldn't relive the old life we'd had and so we chose the life we'd made instead. We built a beautiful home and saw it through to the end. No regrets and, in fact, gratitude to have had the choice and chosen not to. It proved to us how much we loved our new home and we had the finances to do right by it without distraction as it deserved. No half-hearted attempts, no split loyalty, and we weren't overwhelmed by multiple responsibilities. We made a wonderful life and I wouldn't change a thing. You already have a home that needs your love, love it and make it as beautiful again as it deserves. If you simply must restore a ruin, you have one in your garden already that is begging to be restored, the little gardener's cottage. Good luck, Phil. The choice is yours but, if it was me, I'd choose what you already have.
I would rebuild the wing that's missing in your chateau. I love it and love what you do to it.
As far as I understand, this Château is a rental. I could be wrong though.
That had been realy cool, but i assume it would be just unrealistc expensive.
I thought of that too .... I am not sure whether the chateau is protected though. If not, he only needs permits, but then there is the issue with the mysterious underground tunnels and such, mentioned in previous videos.... 🤔
Realistic talking, it would be like 2-3 000 000 Euro for the stone and framework alone.
Restoring Chateau de Thiel was a 4 000 000 Euro project in reality, it had not been possibly without the co ownership of the funding companies, that from where i got my barehand estimations.
However only replacing the oak frame of an existing building is different, pribably just a third of that and it can be spread out ower 10-20 years insted of one single row.
Phil since Angelina left it’s obvious that you’ve lost heart in continuing to do up your current chateau and have been procrastinating for a while .If you want to move on to another project we understand but you stand a greater chance of succeeding in that if you finish some of the repairs and decoration that you’ve started eg. Around the window in the yellow room and sell it first then look to get somewhere else.😊
After seeing the mess of the inside of your chateau having no formal entry that’s original and 1/2 of it being gone I would, at 40, follow my heart. The new place is glorious. It’s a project for a lifetime. It would mean full time work for you and probably everyone you can talk into helping you, but the rewards!🎉
If you stay where you are on that island with the damp and the fragile caverns underneath I would everyday think is this place going to sink right into a cave. I’ve read all the others advice and I see their point but if you’re ever going to follow your heart nows the time.
Beautiful. France should have grants and programs to save these sites
@Slow Simple Calm Not enough.
Stay where you are
These are private properties not public, so how do you think the government (french people) are putting money in private properties ?
@@margueriteb.3376 They've said in previous vlogs that they have. Properties like Purnon are national treasures owned by private individuals. It only makes sense that the French taxpayers would kick in to help preserve them. The Journées du Patrimoine, meaning Heritage Days, offers people the chance to visit historic buildings and monuments, many of which are often closed to the public. I could be wrong, but I thought they said they are expected to open their doors for limited tours in exchange for some of the funding.
Doesn't France have it's own National Trust?
The dilapidated chateau is very close to a busy road. You have a beautiful long driveway at present!!😮
Stay where you are and live the good life. It’s enough work where you are and the other one is so far gone
I forgot, if you want to really go crazy, consider rebuilding the missing portion of the chateau that was torn down. If you want to go big, at least you don't have to say " Or go home " because your already there. LOL
I am following a guy by the name of Dan who is going to restore a Chateau. The Chateau has no roof and there was a fire as well.Part of the wall fell because of a storm but this guy is not going to give up. You can do it too. Be looking out for an up date.
Unbelievably Dans chateau walls are registered so he must wait for months and months for permission /permits to do the least little thing.
You have a lovely home and business already and that still needs you. That place may find a savior or maybe not. My suggestion is that you show up to help the lady every so often and to make video content and maybe others will be inspired to help her too. I vote you stay put
That's a good suggestion.👍 Yea, get your bros, The Petherick Pack and help her out. She has a tough row to hoe. Sadie's friend Mo is pretty handy.
I wanted to say this again: the water around your terrace (maybe future conservatory) is So beautiful. I can see lights from the conservatory reflecting in the water on a summer night;.... absolute blissful beauty. But i truly understand the ache over the other chateau.
It's unfortunate that this chateau has been so neglected in the past. It will be a money pit to bring it back to any form of habitable standard. To have the stamina and dedication to such an undertaking would be for the young and prosperous. You already have enough on your plate Phil, count your blessings you are remarkable for your current endeavors already ❤️🌟🇨🇦
I would say if it wasn't a question of financial burden, I would follow my dreams. If you don't you will always wonder about what might have been.
Follow your heart. Our opinions are useless and include our own biases. We don’t know the area, the condition or it’s potential. You do. Please believe we will all be here to follow whatever you do. 🌺
I would stick with the one you have it is beautiful ❤
The chateau you live in is absolutely beautiful, no doubt. Something is pulling you to the “rescue me “ chateau. You would be able to put your own mark on a piece of history. My advice is always “if you love it, it was meant to be”. Happy pondering. Cheers
It all depends on how much of your life is changing? If you’re needing to completely change your surroundings then maybe a new adventure is what you need? If it’s just the excitement of taking on a second project maybe not? Your the only one who can decide. Just think about why and if it makes sense.
Crazy idea - you can’t keep up with your current place - you’d be going from frying pan into the fire!!
Do it! If that has always been your dream and the opportunity comes along then follow your dream, otherwise you might always wonder about what could’ve been.
I can easily see several million euros needed in that property- all new charpente, slate roof, beams between floors, windows… in addition, all of that new stuff will not feel like you are in an old antique Château unless you source antique items, which means you can hike the price up more… Have you been to Brico to buy a piece of wood lately? And France is a bit on edge right now. I watch Dan, I know he’s a hard worker. But I’m not so sure that his project is actually feasible. It might get him a lot of subscribers though, and that might be the ultimate goal. You asked for advice… mine is run, don’t walk, away from this temptress!!
IMHO, you should complete the job that you started. To quote Joni Mitchell "You don't know what you got 'till its gone."
I can see why you love this dilapidated chateau! I would probably take the leap.
I think it was a dream that wasn't available when you wanted it, and you now have a beautiful home that you've been working on and should continue to focus on. Plus you have a pub. I hope someone else can rescue it. 💗
Sometimes the wanting is better than the having. Stay, your chateau needs you, its where you were married, you can restore it to what it once was, the missing chateau wing, still holds mysteries for you to solve. Stay.
You've already given the ruined chateau a good boost of publicity. Perhaps someone else will step up to rescue it when the time comes.
I was inexplicably drawn to an abandoned property for years. But later I found out there had been deaths there and suddenly I didn’t want it anymore. Be careful when something beguiles you.
Stay where you are and enjoy what you have.🎉
Phil, I can see in your face that you are done with the castle you live in. I say go for it while you are young, don’t waste time. Your enthusiasm will get you through. And we all here will follow you.
I have watched your vlog and I'm moved to tears. On one side I would say:"coincedance doesn't excist" Why do you get a second chance buying this chateau. Why did it touched your heart and soul the first time? Yes you live in a beautiful chateau and you did lots of work. But if you look deep into yourself is this really what you want, start all over again in this new money pitt. Only you can decide. Most important is that you never regret what you decide. What if I had.... only way to know is doing it. The derelict place moved me to tears too. I wish you wisdom
Be happy with what you've got.
This other chateau is TOO FAR GONE!
You have come so far upgrading this lovely chateau but it still needs your loving attention to bring it back to its former glory. Stay put you two and continue working on this chateau. then sit back and enjoy.
If you could buy without selling your current place go for it. Refurbish the old restaurant and get this as going concern. You could then use the profits to pay for renovations. You could look at this as ten year plan. Only you can make that decision, but would you regret not taking the opportunity.
That is but the question, what regrets a person wants to live with. This chateau is going to take a lot time and money and Phil is well aware of that, so his dream.
@@magicmarker7047 Yes it will take a long time, but sometimes you have to take a risk. You have to do what’s in your heart. There are many people who have taken on a chateau with the smallest budget, but they believed in themself.
i think that place has more appeal than your current house. your place just doesn't look right with that missing wing. but can you afford to rebuild that place. will the person sell it, is it salvageable or cost effective to do so. i think it would restore to a very nice home.
Stay and enjoy what you have you have a lovely home and pub business and your music events
Stay put Phil, get some help/volunteers in to do the work that your place needs, you have a long drive and no traffic noises to disturb you where you are, no need to get into debt if you don’t need to.
Excellent point about getting help!
Phil and Angelina made a heroic effort to restore Bailleul all on their own.
The Petherick's and Stephanie at La Lande have 2 very important advantages: personnel and financial resources. Whether it's family or volunteers, many hands make light work, as the saying goes. I don't know what Phil's financial situation is, but in these difficult times especially, having money behind you in any business venture is essential. Stephanie bought La Lande with 2 friends, pooling their finances to purchase/maintain the chateau. She is clearly a savvy businesswoman in how she parlayed her YT into an income stream, along with Patreon. Stephanie has come through the pandemic even stronger, returning to running her chateau as a b&b. In addition to volunteers and family, she has also been able to hire staff, indoors and out.
Pethericks pooled their resources to run Basmagnee, even though it was Gwen's inheritance that is the main financial resource in Billy's ventures, including the convent. Still, there is nothing like family when you can all come together to work on a project the size of a chateau. Billy's sister Sadie and brother Michael are now following their own dreams at Basmagnee.
Bottom line: Phil and Angelina taking in a chateau restoration, along with all the property maintenance, is an enormous job for just 2 people, regardless of age and health. If Phil is alone in the chateau, doing it all alone, then it will certainly become even more challenging, physically and emotionally.
All we can do is pray for them both, and wish them well.
Yep the serenity from the lack of traffic is a serenity in a totally overpopulated world.
Before anything I totally agree..regarding peace and serenity. The busy road can be seen from the drone…one can hear the traffic. Noise travels, no one will have the peace one looks for in a place like this. Sitting outside will be challenging and opening windows will not be possible without constant noise…even double glazed windows will not quell the noise.
Your home is in a magical place! 🙏🌟
Phil, GBY!!
Keep checking your Gut…U r the kinda person that keeps doing these projects w/passion & skill.
Grand entrance love the nearby lake it has great possibilities ! At least there is no moat to worry about as far as structure collapsing which we know is on the list up the road for you it’s a hard thing to weigh all the pros and cons choice comes down to you when all is said and done
Phil, you wanted this abandoned chateau from the first time you viewed it. Fate gave you a huge blow because the owners would not sell. Now fate may be offering you a second chance which does not happen often in life. Is there anything in your past which you really wanted and did not buy? Do you still think about it? I am old. I learned, if you see something you really want, buy it when you see it. Don't walk away. Because when you go back next month or next year, it may no longer be available. I have never regretted buying something I really wanted. I do have regrets of not buying certain things. And I am not talking about small things. These were major expensive items. So, let's now look at the project in a realistic frame of mind. Isn't that chateau near Billy? I think he showed it on one of his blogs a few times. It is in better shape than Dan's chateau. In fact, it is in better shape than many chateaus I have seen that are being restored. So it is doable. You cannot do the job by yourself. You need help. You can save a lot on labor by adopting the Stephanie approach. It is certainly big enough to house workers until the project is complete and maybe beyond. I know in France, the are many talented people who trade their work for room and board. So money can be saved in that respect. Would you be willing to live in that type of environment. Of course, it would be ideal if you had a big family like Billy, and that would be your labor force. Whatever way you go, there are always tradeoffs in life. Only you can judge what is livable for yourself. If you are happy where you are, stay there. But don't let this chateau be a life's regret if you have a second chance to purchase it. There will not be a third chance. Drag Billy over there when you have the chance to view the insides again. The more eyes and brains that view the place, will give you more input as to exactly what must be done. Then you can make a pros and con list and make a better decision. Good luck with whatever decision you make. Just make sure there are no regrets.
I hear some Billy Petherick influence in this Second Project idealization, lol.
Also, the 3rd floor at your present chateau won't fix itself.
Thanks for sharing!
If you sell your place before making the sale, stay at the convent with Ryan and Billy.
They'll even help at the new chateau. I'm sure.
They are good people.
Generous. People helping neighbors in need. USA
Oh stay ! Finish what you have It is beautiful
I understand the attachment, I have been restoring a family house in spain fior the last 8 years , the money while significant is irrelevant when you put your heart an soul in to saving a place and realize that even while the walls still stand, they stand simply on memory. My house was built in 1627 and I had to tear down almost 45% of it and rebuild. Ultimitly was it worth it, the answer was no
Have you thought about asking others that have been fixing big things like this. Hopwood Depree took on his families mess of a castle and there are people volunteering with everything. It will be used more for the community so he has been able to get loans to fix it.
Phil, here’s a thought while you’re still working on your own existing chateau what about developing a master plan of current and planned works with the addition of a phase to reinstate your missing wing in due course. You mentioned in the vlog your interest to create from scratch and I think re-instating the missing wing down the track could be an incredible project and opportunity to unleash yours and Angelina’s creative side fully. While your chateau is already beautiful, how wonderful would it be to be responsible for fully restoring the exterior to its former self. On the internal side of the wing so many amazing possibilities and exponentially elevating the entire chateaus intrinsic and also monetary value. The wing could house an internal lift for instance future proofing ongoing access to every floor. Enhanced utilities, solar storage plant room, performance spaces, art gallery, guest accommodation, commercial level catering kitchen. I think you get the idea.
Angelina has left Phil permanently. He is very upset and hurt about it.
The other one is a pipe dream. Too far gone. What are you trying to run from? Memories maybe? Hang tough. Brighter days are coming. But not in that place. It will just lure you off course. It's a no from me.
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I agree Sharon. Is Phil really wanting this property or 'running' from something not yet dealt with on an emotional level? We all love Phil and just wish him happiness.
It appears most people are telling you to run away. I think you will always regret it if you don’t take a chance on restoring this piece of history.
That new chateau would take an enormous amount of money and time. You still look relatively young to do it but is all that time and money that you would possibly spend really worth the effort. You already have a lovely home. I would continue to do things to the home you already have, and put this other chateau to the back of your mind.
I look to these 2 phrases often; your gut will never steer you wrong, and be careful what you wish for as you might get it !
Seems like you made a commitment to the chateau you already have. It still needs to be finished. That other Chateau needs a whole team and construction crew on it. I feel bad for the last remaining family member who still loves the home, so much of the chateau’s beauty , character and family memory’s have basically been stolen by war and burned. They were handed back a mess and the improvements were not done safely. I want to cry for them.
I'm guessing you need a quick fix after being abandoned by Angelina..but I honestly don't believe this is it! It'll cost a fortune and drag you under with it! Stay strong and Spring will cheer you up! New beginnings!
I am way too old give give advice. Funny, I remember my grandma saying that to me. Ah, anyway. I heard in your voice how much you loved the history of the old Chateaux, how much you just wanted to tell the old place she wasn’t worthless or forgotten. There is no such thing as a building too far gone but there are pockets not deep enough, energy that runs out, and sometimes you just get tired of being a house slave. Sometimes a house are so much more than a house, she’s worth it. Sometimes when you have to let them go it breaks your heart. Sometimes when you don’t let them go it breaks your heart. Wishing you peace with your decision, sweetie.
NO.
You are the only one that can decide to stay or go. Do you need to move on to a new place? Or is your heart already at home? Lovely long drive way where you live. I would suggest you go out and do some spring gardening work along your driveway and every once in awhile glance around looking at your home. Give the thought of moving away some deep thought .......... and you will know. Gardening always clears the mind for me.
You have answered your own question. My mother always said finish what you start. Finish your chateau and then move on.
Don't pay them what you offered before. If it's really cheap, but otherwise don't
I would go, only because of the moat around the chateau can be a real problem. Remember the flooding? You have to dredge the moat then constantly check the integrity of the foundation.
I LOVE the grounds the new Chateau, what a gorgeous site. Lends to new income stream, fishing in the river, boating on the river.
Sell the current project and move up to this new project which once renovated will be worth much much more, providing you get it for the right price.
I think at this stage u seem bored , im not sure whats happened to your marriage but if u have split , u could sell your chateau and move on , . U not finishing things off , your chateau needs more work , but the question is have u lost the push to get your chateau finished ? U might need a new clean slate to move on and start fresh .
I'd agree with the consensus! You've got a great eye for what it "could be," but yours and Angelina's has plenty of wonderful projects ahead. In a perfect world, there would be more awesome people like you to get that new project and make it a splendid hotel. Please enjoy yours and thank you for always sharing!!!
Stay, Enjoy, don't diminish the fruits of yours and Angelina's labours, complete 98% of this project and then look again for another chateau. That way the next chateau meant for yours and Angelina's loving care will come into focus. Great work and god bless
I would grab the chateau in a heart beat. Buy it Philip
If a person does not find contentment in the blessings they HAVE, they will always be a restless soul. You asked for an opinion. Stay put, but enjoy your dream of the other chateau. You are ALREADY blessed with a beautiful home, and have come a long way in it's restoration.
I always dreamt of visiting Ireland and Europe, almost making it there when 9-11 happened, and again but mad cow happened...lol. Now I am too old to do such travel, but guess what? I love where I am, and do not feel cheated. Much love sir. Stay the course.
Oh boy! I understand how you feel about wanting to save such a wonderful building. That one does look awfully far gone and needs someone with a lot of money to bring it back. It's so sad to see all these lovely places crumbing away. If I won a lottery, I would take one in a heart beat. But it would also have to come with a Phil, Ed and Billy!!!!
Oh Phil, as the wonderful line from 'Now, Voyager' goes "we have the stars, why reach for the moon?" You've put so much work & wonderful memories into your chateau already.... could you really step aside & not see it through to the end? Just when it's looking so beautiful again? I am a bit out of touch though & thought you rented it, not owned, so forgive my ignorance. The new chateau should be saved somehow, but I think it's too much of a HUGE job for you, my lovely.... def a moneypit that you don't need..... Maybe a smaller project one day.... but sadly not this one. Xx
Your place is so special and beautiful with so much more character than this other chateau. You have a moat and wonderful windows and have put so much work already into this amazing place. Stay where you are, it is amazing!!!
You should take your money and effort to fully restore the chateau you have. Add the missing wing back on. It would be so wonderful to see your current chateau as it once was. While the abandoned chateau pulls at your heartstrings, it would be overwhelming and so expensive in the end. I suspect you would question yourself a million times if you were to do this.
Hi Phil, I would say go for it if Angelina is also up for the challenge. You obviously have a strong connection with the place. Does it feel right when you are there? Things will align if it is meant for you ❤
Angelina has left Phil permanently... He is very upset over this and hurt.
As much as it has been calling you Phil I reckon you have enough on your plate and your chateau is beautiful, I would carry on with yours. It is a shame that there are so many chateaus that need saving . Love your channel and I reckon you should add the wing onto your chateau that is missing. I would stick to where I am. Have a lovely day.
Phil, I understand the heart about “the one that got away.” That can be felt about so many things….but, isn’t your chateau “home” to you? Your home is a beautiful and serene place filled with loving memories of the life that you and Angelina have built together. Love the other place from afar and maybe, if someone is able to begin real work on it, you could volunteer and be part of it, too. The glorious bird song that greets you each morning is worth staying alone.
Oh Phil finish the beautiful home you have. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. You've got the pub now to look after as well. Bet Angelina doesn't want to start again especially on a building that would in my opinion be better to knock down and start again. Leave it alone if how I feel. Xx
Phil, you have paradise in your chateau! With that new chateau project, the grass is definitely not greener on the other side! That place would be almost the magnitude of what Dan has taken on! Besides, that new place doesn’t have a moat, which is absolutely the coolest thing ever! 😁🏴☠️
I’m a terrible one to ask because I follow my heart and instincts. But … If you decide to sell… You have gotten your Chateau to a better place and the next owner has a solid foundation to build on.
If you plan on totally rebuilding the torn down wing of yours well…. Cost wise it’s not going to be cheap either. And your clientele for your festivals are they going to go to new location and the commute to your pub??? And time for the pub.. ?
Also you are correct you have a shell. So if it’s not listed you can shore up the Shell .. and as you say Make this one truely yours. Plus no mote ..
planning permissions and waiting times is a consideration . Your lodging while you complete the project .
Honestly as long as you have the plans and the rock and bricks are on the ground it’s just a matter of putting the puzzle back together. Reassembly.
It’s a massive undertaking but it goes the same step by step.. just like any project. And Doable just need to beef up your funding .
If this project and land village and the community is where you are to be it all will be revealed to you. I will pray that God gives you your answer very clearly.
If it’s not for you then maybe you can help the owners get a youtube channel Patreon going and even scare up some volunteers and do work there .
If this new Chateau is something that is a deep passion and you are that connected to saving it. I have no doubt you will succeed.
Is the ruined château fully classé as a monument historique? If so, there's money to be had from the DRAC. You probably have already figured that into a budget in your head or in a spreadsheet. My impression is the DRAC professionals are also generous with advice. From the looks of the ruined château, I'm guessing there are parts that are 16th and 17th century. In that case, having good counsel is very important. You're young and enterprising. Have a go.
I love your chateau Phil. Stay and keep fixing it..renovating it. 😊❤
Please continue with your place! It is so beautiful with all the work you have done! Please continue with it!
A really really tough decision but I’m tired tonight so will say stay put! Unless you can afford a building firm to do the work with or for you xx
Hi Phil, it seems most comments say for you to stay, however it has to be your decision. All I would say is where you are now needs finishing and it needs the demolished wing being rebuilt, but I would love to see the restoration of the new one.
Stay and keep putting the love into the beautiful place you have.
Based on the photos of the exteriors of your existing Chateau from the grounds the moat the terrace are absolutely spectacular and unique versus the one your heart feel sad for. I empathize with your feelings of sadness over the other Château but the one you are in seems the perfect size for you and in terms of location your current one is far superior versus the other one which is beside a very busy road and seems excessively large for you. With all my heart I believe you should stay with what you have, where you are I know it will and has been giving you great joy. Consider the one you have as a great gift and the one you were supposed to have all along its your destiny and from what I can see has great karma
OMG Phil it sounds a bit of an unlucky place, 😢 stay where you are where your happy x
I would stay in the beautiful Chateau you both built memories in, and worked so hard at repairing. It is a lovely place and you are very fortunate to live there.
Phil you make me think of Ryan with that energetic opening! like the calming music you had when showing the chateau. That chateau has so many beautiful pieces. The gates and the circular driveway are amazing. I would stay for now
Your home is beautiful! You have put so much work in it! You and your puppy are happy! I would stay put especially now that economies are struggling!
Yes, your chateau is stunning and I also think it deserves your full attention for now. Watchout ! Don't spread out too much.
It would be an amazing journey to save that place. Billy and Dan both had a plan before they plunged into their money pit projects. I bet you have a plan too.
I would definatly stay where you are, and put all your love, money and effort - as you have already done - into what you have. It is hard giving up on a dream you had, when you fell in love with the other Chateau, but reality bites, and you have such a lovely place where you already are. xxx
"Probably beyond repair" is the key. If it goes up for sale and you deem it repairable, I say GO FOR IT. Such a beautiful building and setting.