Why Vegeta Blue is FINALLY GREAT in Dragonball FighterZ

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  • @MoldyBagel
    @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2569

    I have had a lot of ya'll say that you still agree with the idea from the first video that the Final Flash Asset Flip is way worse than Goku Blue's Kaioken. My point was really more that when I initially compared these two moves, calling one out specifically for reusing animations when the other one also does this (albeit WAY MORE creatively) is pretty hypocritical. I still also think that the Kaioken looks cooler and there was more work put into it, and it is in fact, a GREAT example of asset flipping in a really good way! But these two moves nonetheless belong the same category, despite being guilty of the same thing to varying degrees. Hope that clears up my opinion on the subject.

    • @shima8321
      @shima8321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      To be fair on Goku Blue’s lvl 3, they don’t reuse dragon flash fist, or at least not entirely. His body is on a different position. All the rest is true tho, great job.

    • @Konno416
      @Konno416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very nice

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Tbh I'm perfectly fine with vegetas lever 3, there was nothing else he could've done since the anime hadn't gotten to ssbe yet (or even the ToP if I remember correctly) so blue vegeta literally had to do the final flash

    • @Some_guy_and_his_games
      @Some_guy_and_his_games 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Not_Claptrap they could have technically given him Gamma Burst Flash from the manga

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@Some_guy_and_his_games that's true, but the games usually go with the anime for these kinds of things

  • @mr.twists9302
    @mr.twists9302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1618

    Vegeta blue:
    *Started from the bottom now we here*

    • @k.i.l.l.a.c.a.m3531
      @k.i.l.l.a.c.a.m3531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      *started from the bottom now my whole team here*

    • @frm1234
      @frm1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      *started from the bottom now we here*

    • @Sakasu-1
      @Sakasu-1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On a scale of 1to10

    • @_bam_
      @_bam_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      >:( Stole my comment

    • @frm1234
      @frm1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@_bam_ no he didn’t

  • @SeeReax
    @SeeReax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3779

    I need to give ole veggie blue another go

    • @Vegitodraws
      @Vegitodraws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Oh hai there

    • @narutard7737
      @narutard7737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yea i suggest u play him mid not point

    • @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970
      @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh you watch these too? Dope.

    • @brandu07
      @brandu07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Is it WUAH BAM, WHUA BAM, or just WA BAM? (Also, Hi)

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +468

      its worth it hes pretty tight now

  • @marmeg5238
    @marmeg5238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4629

    So Vegeta Blue never really sucked but MoldyBagel baited ArcSys into buffing him anyway. Smart

    • @Thundrfox
      @Thundrfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      5head

    • @Ender41948
      @Ender41948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

      ....No, he just kinda sucked.

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      Nah, he definitely sucked.

    • @river8803
      @river8803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      Nope. He definitely sucked. It’s just that he was slightly better than what moldy portrayed them as in the original video

    • @airqueraphael1529
      @airqueraphael1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      He was garbage, but not straight up fucking garbage

  • @edwinliconazapana8116
    @edwinliconazapana8116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1840

    "Now let's see what the kicks lose to":
    U I G O K U

    • @JugularJohn
      @JugularJohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      In all honesty I don’t think really anything can beat UI Goku.
      (Except Giorno Giovanna-)

    • @blacksauce091
      @blacksauce091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      But can goku beat ui goku though

    • @stubbsiren4368
      @stubbsiren4368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      XD

    • @simplysupreme1030
      @simplysupreme1030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@JugularJohn it would be tie between those 2 honestly, I havnt figured out yet how giorno is gonna actually manage to hurt goku

    • @JugularJohn
      @JugularJohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@simplysupreme1030 well he theoretically could make a extremely venomous snake that’s stronger than purple haze. Maybe he could. I don’t know how exactly strong GER truly is in terms of physical strength. But he did manage to send a pebble flying, penetrating Diavolo’s skin and shattering a pillar with just a flick of it’s finger.

  • @ungatm9458
    @ungatm9458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2012

    4:54 “It also gives you access to Spirit Bombs if you’re into that sort of thing”
    *Sweats in Base Goku main*

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +496

      pure arousal

    • @boop7784
      @boop7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      *starts to feel the power*

    • @starrynight4602
      @starrynight4602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MoldyBagel huh

    • @nick9115
      @nick9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Jihad Arnold nope galick gun into spirit bomb works anywhere

    • @hankj.wimbleton5644
      @hankj.wimbleton5644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@boop7784 ROW ROW, FIGHT THE POWA!

  • @stephenmsf
    @stephenmsf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1112

    I love seeing creators that have the balls to say shit like "I fucked up"

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

      best thing to do will always be to own it

    • @icylives1493
      @icylives1493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@MoldyBagel and also the fact that you took the steps to further correct what you may have messed up. props my guy

    • @GothicSoldier9000
      @GothicSoldier9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MoldyBagel And you still made it entertaining in your own way!

    • @alexisislas-gonzalez5991
      @alexisislas-gonzalez5991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MoldyBagel but at what cost
      Apparently Goku’s legs

    • @killstrike-zn1lv
      @killstrike-zn1lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MoldyBagel I applaud you for actually owning up. Balls of steel on ya. +++ Respect.

  • @celldramaticfinishxd7318
    @celldramaticfinishxd7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1384

    I was just watching the “Why Vegeta Blue Sucks video” when this popped up

  • @Aethryl
    @Aethryl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1761

    Finally, here we go. The most anticipated sequal since the lion King 2

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

      this is correct

    • @kaiocrap6965
      @kaiocrap6965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lol 😂

    • @Aethryl
      @Aethryl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@MoldyBagel seriously man, your content is great. Keep it up.

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@Aethryl thank you!

    • @aturtlehunter6250
      @aturtlehunter6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoldyBagel no ur content is trash

  • @afool8974
    @afool8974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    As someone who has heard Bluegeta scream the words “Big bang attack” an uncountable number of times, this video is something from my dreams. Except for the fact that people might actually learn how to deal with Bluegeta.

  • @daedalusflights1337
    @daedalusflights1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    3:59
    s c a l e
    (hearing that made me feel untold amounts of bliss)

  • @bageltoo
    @bageltoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3250

    I never actually noticed the animation recycling on Blueku’s level 3. Clever camera work.

    • @720logan2
      @720logan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      definitely tricked me. vegetas is way more obvious

    • @akiraishin7141
      @akiraishin7141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +495

      That's the thing, Bluku's lvl3 is a clever reuse of assets. Most people won't even notice unless it gets pointed out to them. Blue Vegeta on the other hand is just the exact same attack. They don't even try to hide it. It would have been cool had they reused some assets and made his self destruct move from the Buu saga his lvl3. Would have been easy too.
      Take the charging animation, blocking animation, sparking animation, add some camera work and just recycle the destructive finish screen and boom, it's done. New lvl3

    • @scprez8865
      @scprez8865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @John Carlton that’s literally Niagara pummel lol

    • @PebblepantsTV
      @PebblepantsTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      UnderBreak no you're just fucking blind LMAO

    • @terrakage4462
      @terrakage4462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It was pretty clear for me when he does the upwards kick. I can tell that the asset was used and figured out that his level 3 is a bunch a reused assets but some I didn’t know.

  • @mrgotham3685
    @mrgotham3685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1027

    On a scale of 1 to 10, I’ll give this a 10.

    • @tastedivinefury2198
      @tastedivinefury2198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mhm

    • @Rei-uk3qt
      @Rei-uk3qt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’d still give him a 7

    • @azurestar-ch1
      @azurestar-ch1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      *S C A L E*

    • @gbj0107
      @gbj0107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@azurestar-ch1 **insert guitar noises here**

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rei-uk3qt What takes off 3 points?

  • @shadowblue7074
    @shadowblue7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +750

    Virginia has regained his spot at the top.

    • @deltakid
      @deltakid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Ur are no real super sand

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      hahaha

    • @iiclyde_nodes174
      @iiclyde_nodes174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Im gonna defet your andnbecome super saying wihte

    • @Hi_Just_Fred
      @Hi_Just_Fred 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But does he still hang out with little boys in spandex?
      He really can't be doing that, I mean we love him but come on.

    • @Unheardhat
      @Unheardhat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Hi_Just_Fred Virginia hanging out with little boys in spandex I see

  • @thestickmansavioryt1941
    @thestickmansavioryt1941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Everyone : Pretty, happy.
    Trunks : Gets abused, by his father.

  • @tamestarling6754
    @tamestarling6754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I love it when a content creator not only recognizes their mistakes but also goes back and fixes them all the while keeping it entertaining and interesting and you've done it here very well :)

  • @comicallylargesheep8350
    @comicallylargesheep8350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +690

    When Vegeta said “Scale” I felt that

    • @theeagle7552
      @theeagle7552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      *O N A S C A L E OF 1 T O 10*

    • @ofauz7047
      @ofauz7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I L L G I V E Y O U A 3

    • @Zeegoku1007
      @Zeegoku1007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I'll GiVe u a Tree

    • @flaco3462
      @flaco3462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      it was when the guitar playing popped up that it really slayed me

    • @GetHypedandShocked
      @GetHypedandShocked 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      SCALE

  • @uncledeez1964
    @uncledeez1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    I never even noticed the animation recycling during blue gokus level 3. You gotta admit tho that they do a pretty good job of hiding it

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +289

      it is definitely a good use of asset flipping

    • @derisgaming9773
      @derisgaming9773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      to be fair it's not really that strange considering the move as a whole is Goku using his fighting Techniques just with more power. So he would still look the same fighting.

    • @themanysirs1814
      @themanysirs1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      yeah, Vegeta's lv3 is still a worse asset flip imo since it only uses one animation, which is the same as the lv3 as ssj Vegeta, so Goku's is still a much better asset flip than vegeta's, also unlike Goku, he doesn't even change forms, which is fair since vegeta can't use kaioken, but the point still stands.

    • @SCF721
      @SCF721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I think this makes Vegeta Blue's level 3 look worse because of how good they utilized reused assets for Goku Blue.
      While Goku simply takes smaller animations to make something that's different (especially with the great camera work), Vegeta literally uses the exact same final flash animation and doesn't even hide it.

    • @fissilewhistle
      @fissilewhistle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Dragon Rush animation is kind of noticeable, but everything else is well-hidden.

  • @dullman8411
    @dullman8411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1253

    Me who doesn't even play DBFZ: mhm very true

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +304

      you should play, it's fun

    • @toneyaustin2386
      @toneyaustin2386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same

    • @chronosanaki5174
      @chronosanaki5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      You probably missed an amazing sale of it going for 10$ on literally every platform

    • @kugelblitz9190
      @kugelblitz9190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chronosanaki5174 ye i bought the ultimate version of dbfz during that sale
      and it's been super fun playin the game

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      warning,unless you are willing to dump 100's if not 1000's of hours into this game in training mod while not being able to properly put those hours to use online since it had a not so good netcode(online sucks ass),this game may not be for you unless you are into fighters.

  • @elsquisheeone
    @elsquisheeone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    My man really just roasted his past self with facts and logic for 5 whole minutes

  • @Burdboy14
    @Burdboy14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Glad to have stuck with the prince from the beginning and now he’s a god

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now? Vegeta was always the God of all edgelords

    • @Burdboy14
      @Burdboy14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RRRRRRRRR33 Ik but people didn’t notice his greatness until he got buffed

  • @octaviomaiani5624
    @octaviomaiani5624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Is the fact that he went back to correct the previous video's mistakes what makes this small arc all the more satisfying😇

  • @WeavileGuy
    @WeavileGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    honestly i still think the final flash comparison is a fair point, because at least goku's reused animations are put together to look cooler in context
    vegeta's is just final flash but again

    • @RealGhostface-y9b
      @RealGhostface-y9b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But you DO forget one thing:
      *_V E G E T A T E C H N I Q U E_*
      *_=_*
      *_I T ' S S T I L L F O R K I N G V E G E T A_*

  • @RaheemRollair
    @RaheemRollair ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Subscribe so he gets buffed into being OP."
    Mission Accomplished.

  • @Herodegon
    @Herodegon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "On a scale of one to ten, I give you a twelve."
    - Blue Haired Vegetable

  • @Mr.Bababooey
    @Mr.Bababooey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    The video: *has Kirby's soundtrack*
    Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well!

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      why does EVERY KIRBY GAME HAVE SUCH GOOD MUSIC BRO

    • @jokx4409
      @jokx4409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MoldyBagel You are beginning to feel the pain of Antdude when he needs to talk about the soundtrack.

    • @Vegitodraws
      @Vegitodraws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MoldyBagel same reason why every Sonic and Dragon Ball game has good music. Japan be out here poppin, those goddamn guitar wizards

    • @elmaionesosexo
      @elmaionesosexo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Vegitodraws don't forget Smash Bros. OST, that shit slaps harder than my mom's chancla

    • @dragonITH-nk3yk
      @dragonITH-nk3yk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FF14 bro, Soken for real made a band so that he could make rock covers of his own songs.

  • @TheKing-qz9wd
    @TheKing-qz9wd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    It takes a great man to admit when he makes a mistake.

  • @squidfungus4001
    @squidfungus4001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    These are probably the best type of videos you make.

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      thanks for commenting on like every video squidy i appreciate it

    • @squidfungus4001
      @squidfungus4001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Anytime dude! Your content is so fun and just makes me appreciate the game a lot more

    • @curtishamilton5342
      @curtishamilton5342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beautiful

  • @JustASadBoi
    @JustASadBoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    “You see players youre not dealing with an average saiyan anymore”

  • @owenphillips2569
    @owenphillips2569 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Little did he know today. Vegeta Blue is now amazing with his Big Bang Attack

  • @dontmindme8571
    @dontmindme8571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    Actually, I think I'd rather have 6 assets combined together for a LV3 than just one asset reused. It gives it more of a unique feeling.

    • @pootis_duck7916
      @pootis_duck7916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Then I'm sure you also don't mind Ginyu's alternate lvl 3.

    • @flaco3462
      @flaco3462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@pootis_duck7916 i sure do actually
      because it coulda been so much flashier

    • @JusticeLover69
      @JusticeLover69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@flaco3462 yeah but they all do the pose at the end of it so I'm satisfied

    • @flaco3462
      @flaco3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JusticeLover69 yeah that part does work

    • @demyx0067
      @demyx0067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn, I was also thinking about the lvl 5. Bluekus lvl 5 is just his 2H with a blue explosion, right? Bluegetas lvl 5 feels unique, but that might just be the camera also. I enjoy Blueku more, but nothing he has is better than hearing "You worthless piece of junk!"

  • @BlindBandit1x
    @BlindBandit1x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    LMAO i laughed so hard at the blue goku animation part😂

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      i cried lol

    • @MagmaSpacer
      @MagmaSpacer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I mean it reuses animations pretty seamlessly to me and if you don’t look for it you may not even notice.

    • @oddbeebee1960
      @oddbeebee1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I mean kaioken is just a strengthening technique so it makes sense that it’s just regular attacks but stronger

    • @JameyJoeshuaOfficial
      @JameyJoeshuaOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its used but combine it into ultimate combo
      (But make sense)

    • @michaelmcintire6985
      @michaelmcintire6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      5:15 goku sounds like a siren xd

  • @nobodygoodfr9556
    @nobodygoodfr9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The last point about Vegeta's LVL 3 super still applies. Sure, Goku's super reuses 6 different animations, but at least they are put together to make something else. It's like the LVL 3 they gave to Ginyu in a sense.
    Vegeta's is still just Final Flash.

    • @thecollector4753
      @thecollector4753 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tbf, at the time the game released, the Final Flash was literally his strongest move. He didn't really have any attacks or techniques he likes to use exclusively with/in Blue, like how Goku stacks Kaioken with it, except maybe "Gamma Burst Flash" and even that's a stretch since it's literally just a Final Flash that doesn't need to be charged up. If anything his move set seems to be based almost entirely on when he fought Goku Black, kinda like how Goku's is based on when he fought Golden Frieza in RoF and Hit in the U6 Tournament. Guess that goes to show that Vegeta never really gets time to shine and show off new techniques outside of maybe the Manga. Even when he does he always ends up fumbling the bag somehow. It's been almost 3 decades, let my man get a W from a main villain.

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thecollector4753 Gamma burst flash was first shown in the manga just weeks before the game even came out, so that's not really an option

    • @RealGhostface-y9b
      @RealGhostface-y9b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So for you vegeta ssj is clark kent and vegeta ssgss is superman?

  • @cheek3664
    @cheek3664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    “🔛🅰️⚖️📴1️⃣2️⃣1️⃣0️⃣👁L Give U🅰️3️⃣” - Vegeta while in Supa Sayajin God Supa Sayajin

    • @atroposV
      @atroposV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i just realized the joke. this is a good one.

    • @fissilewhistle
      @fissilewhistle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *Bejita. If you’re going to go weeb, go all the way.

  • @thegwallitn5337
    @thegwallitn5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's pretty commendable how much mileage arc system works gets making an entire roster out of 3 characters: goku, vegeta, and dbz villain

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dbz villain, my favorite character

    • @samr9457
      @samr9457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More then Half of the roster is literally Goku or Vegeta with different transformation

  • @Kaijo-
    @Kaijo- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Vegeta really went through a lot to become a good character in the game.

    • @riccardobravi9754
      @riccardobravi9754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But hey hard work pay (that rhymes)

    • @bigenson18
      @bigenson18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It fits his character progression in the show :)

    • @riccardobravi9754
      @riccardobravi9754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bigenson18 well that's a good thing

  • @darthpickle
    @darthpickle ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And now he’s the best character in the game because of todays patch

  • @lunari64_
    @lunari64_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "With the right assists"
    Bardock B: "I AM THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION!!!!!"

  • @rossdavis428
    @rossdavis428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On a scale of _"Vegeta needs more forms in this game"_ to _"Goku has too many forms in this game"_ , I give this video a Like~

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      accurate statement

  • @hotterfan8350
    @hotterfan8350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the most aggressive self debunk ive ever seen and its awesome

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hahaha all in good fun of course

  • @namor1513
    @namor1513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    And now all we need is "bardock b assist is no longer broken"

    • @demonlikemike5920
      @demonlikemike5920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roshi B: imma end this man's whole career.

    • @soapy.2057
      @soapy.2057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demonlikemike5920 lmao this didnt age well

    • @demonlikemike5920
      @demonlikemike5920 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soapy.2057 😢

    • @stubbsiren4368
      @stubbsiren4368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually
      Bardock b assist is intended to be broken
      I think it will be permanently broken

  • @giovannidalmare6269
    @giovannidalmare6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Boy this guy has done something so mature and honest. Addressing as “wrong” his own video is something so good and inspiring to watch. Also, very entertaining as always!! Thank you for the content and have a nice weekend !

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thanks giovanni

  • @Ender41948
    @Ender41948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The funny thing is? I actually really like Vegeta Blue's level 3 for a reason not many people give it credit for- how fast it is. Super Vegeta's Final Flash has a big, long windup of him charging the thing and looking really pissed off, incredibly fitting, given what scene it's taken from and all, but the fact that Vegeta Blue can use an equally powerful attack with basically no charge up whatsoever makes him look much more powerful in comparison, the same reason why I like the fact BBA is a regular fireball and not a super anymore- it makes the power gap between SSJ and Blue look big without sacrificing game balance. I wish they did that sort of thing for Goku Blue, like gave him a Super Kameha as a fireball- slower, like BBA, but bigger. I guess it wouldn't really work with his kit though.

    • @gagidoo4757
      @gagidoo4757 ปีที่แล้ว

      just give him an Anti Air kamehameha and call it a day

  • @lucassmith4137
    @lucassmith4137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:57 Hey, nice meme you got there. 👌

  • @Kfo221
    @Kfo221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man thanks for clearing things up in your last bluegeta video. Our boy didnt deserve THAT much hate

  • @GrandeBigdor
    @GrandeBigdor ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We need the trilogy. He's S tier now🗿

  • @thehalfsaiyajin5073
    @thehalfsaiyajin5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3:59
    Vegeta shows his amazing guitar skills

  • @Redshield_84
    @Redshield_84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love when you make Videos, they're always so entertaining

  • @BadLeaf07
    @BadLeaf07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a musician that scale joke made me chuckle thank you

  • @johnadams8385
    @johnadams8385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I would argue that remixing animations to string them into a super attack that no other Gokus use isn't quite as bad as recycling an existing super and just swapping the color palette.

    • @derpypotato677
      @derpypotato677 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it is exactly the same

    • @skittleboi1193
      @skittleboi1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derpypotato677 no it really isn't most people don't even notice that they just reuse animations for goku but vegeta they literally just reused the ssj super no extra work whatsoever

  • @Da_Swifta
    @Da_Swifta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've always been a fan of Vegeta Blue, even back when he was an underpowered mess. Maybe I just didn't feel too affected by his downsides because I wasn't playing at a high enough level back then to notice, but as for me personally I've always been able to at least have fun with the character, and I always thought his moves (especially his level 5 extension) just look and feel so good. I was very happy to see him getting a buff, because I felt like he was one of the characters who could definitely benefit from one, and the buffs they gave him were exactly the kinda things I wanted. He is now a part of my main roster, and I couldn't be happier about it. He is just so much fun to play

  • @penguinstrophe
    @penguinstrophe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I FUCKING LOVE THAT BUBBLE GUN

  • @smokeyjoe6059
    @smokeyjoe6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:11 - What an exciting love letter/outro for the character, tying the theme to a remix of the ToP opener! 😍
    That Goku alarm scene at 4:49 was _hilarious!_

  • @stenkos
    @stenkos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know when the Limit Break X Survivor music isn't blasted into your ears every damn episode of Dragon Ball Super it actually sounds kinda nice

    • @Koi_Fish_Man
      @Koi_Fish_Man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every time someone doesnt comment something stupid or unimportant the video feels better who knew

    • @aturtlehunter6250
      @aturtlehunter6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao i agree with this one

  • @AdeptusForge
    @AdeptusForge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd still argue that a whole *18* damage on galick gun isn't worth the loss of positional advantage you'd get from niagara pummel at the end of a combo, but I am very happy you went back to rectify your mistakes regarding Vegeta Blue's last video.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mistakes I can see are 2.5 on the original video: The kicks (Tiny gap who creates 50/50 scenarios), the ki blasts (slightly below average on speed) and somewhat of the grab (the grab was slow and therefore reactable, but not bad due to missing on crouching opponents).

  • @Mag5c68
    @Mag5c68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Idk why but hearing Goku in slow motion just made me chuckle XD

  • @WastedPotential17
    @WastedPotential17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I need help! Cleaning all this blood off my gloves"

  • @sobasically9720
    @sobasically9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It took him 8 months of charging that Final Flash to get out of the trash

  • @BoltTheEmolga
    @BoltTheEmolga ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Subscribe so he gets buffed into being OP”

  • @aldoenriquez6294
    @aldoenriquez6294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your analysis style videos are always so interesting and well explained. Hoping to see more like it. Hell, maybe even in other fight games.

  • @thecatastrophe132
    @thecatastrophe132 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Anyone coming back here when 1.32 dropped lol

  • @xionfighter4273
    @xionfighter4273 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Suscribe so he gets buffed into being OP", well well well, looks like it actaully worked!

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a premonition

    • @LD_7000
      @LD_7000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoldyBagelu keep calling shit bro, bluegeta, beerus, etc

  • @serious_mood_rig7511
    @serious_mood_rig7511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Now all we need is for them to make ssj goku a viable starter character and were all good

    • @phazedq
      @phazedq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      english when

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@phazedq he misspelled one word

    • @Shumamudoom
      @Shumamudoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Super goku? Like blue goku? He's a hella good character whatchu talkin bout? He's a character that's good as is, he doesn't need any changes.

    • @raccoonarchive22
      @raccoonarchive22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you mean ssj goku?

    • @kenji6492
      @kenji6492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or does he mean UI Goku from
      Dragon Ball Super?

  • @commediaDollArte
    @commediaDollArte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:00 As a bass player who's spent the last couple of weeks trying to decide on a scale length for a baritone guitar/bass VI, I felt this joke in my soul and I have real props for you. Subbed.

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahahah that is a picture of my actual fender bass btw

  • @leonnidus8156
    @leonnidus8156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I just need to see Shoyoumomo vs MoldyBagel with SSJB Vegeta

  • @uhhkanji4441
    @uhhkanji4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shoyoumomo: *Imma pretend like I didnt see that*

    • @Spaced0ut
      @Spaced0ut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I NEED HELP

  • @Bam010
    @Bam010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Started from the bottom now we here."
    - Vegeta Blue

    • @tamamalos1698
      @tamamalos1698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That song, that song... That Song!
      (Gasp) yeah nvm I forgot

  • @matthevanhouts2871
    @matthevanhouts2871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man just said "on a scale of 1 to 10, i'll give myself a redemption arc"

  • @elliottcrain3097
    @elliottcrain3097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:52 Well, Niagara pummel does combo with spirit bomb if you cancel it

  • @ZacDicoot
    @ZacDicoot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3:59 I laughed WAY harder than I should have at this

    • @lebriel5464
      @lebriel5464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @deathangeleas2401
      @deathangeleas2401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah lol, do guitars actually scale as well as vegeta does? Asking for a friend lol.

  • @kidbuumer4780
    @kidbuumer4780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’ve been playing this game for 3 years and hadn’t noticed the reused animations for blue Goku. Something to note though is that even though it is reusing animations, it’s not only used in a different context but are also framed differently (ie different camera angle) and have the blue+kaioken shading. But both look great

  • @mariaespino8405
    @mariaespino8405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The caption in the beginning was “why” and then “why not”

  • @CarnageRulez469
    @CarnageRulez469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would really love for you to tackle Cooler in a video.
    Kind of point out why he isn’t slept on, since his flaws are pretty damn significant reason as to why he doesn’t get play.

  • @dominiclacroix9489
    @dominiclacroix9489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a Vegeta blue player, i love both your video because both were true. I dont listen video on youtube and thinking everything is straight facts but its fun that you corrected it in a fun and comical way. Yeah also im into that ;) I made a team surrounding goku spirit bomb because i got a deep love for it. I found out dragonball around that time goku battled frieza when i rented a book at my library and worked my way back, bought books etc. so spirit bomb is the start of my love for dragon ball. My team is blue vegeta, zbroly and baseku, both caracter can setup my spirit bomb easy and vegeta blue is point and hes a glass canon. It seems almost as people want to underestimate him because of his past so when i start trashing them its too late, the damage is so high, most basic combo routes with him is like 50% of a health bar. Means i crack open twice someone and get a kill and im somewhat bad at the game.

  • @wanderedhades
    @wanderedhades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is, "this feels like the most aimlessly designed character." The fighting game version of, "I can't name a single character trait."?

  • @Mario-nx6ys
    @Mario-nx6ys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:59
    I love how this went from “OOOOOOOOOOOHH” to “OOOOOOOOOOOHH NO”.

  • @gortalla5474
    @gortalla5474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never noticed this before, but I have massive respect for your use of the Kirby air ride ost

  • @SunnyTacos
    @SunnyTacos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love when you break down characters like this, it helps a lot when trying to main them, happy 2021 Moldy💖

  • @BotSupportIronValiant
    @BotSupportIronValiant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THIS is why I watch your videos. Always entertaining and informative! I don't even play FighterZ anymore but you make me enjoy it!

  • @Konno416
    @Konno416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content. This stuff is what got me to play the game.

  • @federicodellimmagine3676
    @federicodellimmagine3676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:01 Final trash? That means Vegeta SSB found his way out of the dumpster

  • @kimbaldun
    @kimbaldun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Trunks after getting beat up by his father in ssb: 👁️👄👁️

  • @ethanspradling
    @ethanspradling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: Trying to practice for my upcoming recital
    My brain: 3:59

  • @Relentless966
    @Relentless966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:56 Okay you've earned a sub that's pretty hilarious as a reoccurring theme of Vegeta S C A L E S

  • @beanwuzhear
    @beanwuzhear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vegeta no longer needs help

  • @Bol.Sadguy
    @Bol.Sadguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Reused Animations:
    - Standing Medium"
    That's 5LL in SSJ Goku's case, not 5M. It is however 5M on Base Goku.

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      oh yeah yeah totally slipped my mind cause it's base's 5m

  • @MarkSoupial
    @MarkSoupial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Classic Vegeta, always a Space Day late and a Star Dollar short

  • @ditch5662
    @ditch5662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely LOVE the effort you put in your videos

  • @7knsz975
    @7knsz975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy deserves more praise to his passion and effort he put into his videos

  • @501stboi3
    @501stboi3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m more impressed that you admitted to being wrong. I’m impressed you just earned a subscriber off just that alone. (And your content)

  • @gamesux420
    @gamesux420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:25 i love that cutaway

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad someone notices the subtle things

  • @vibewebyt2293
    @vibewebyt2293 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So When is the next video saying Vegeta Blue is overpowered.

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ima see how it plays out before completing the trilogy hahaha

  • @Sean_Bird
    @Sean_Bird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He needed help, and he got help!

  • @paulnoell39
    @paulnoell39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the new best video on the channel. Holy heck it was awesome to watch

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad you liked it paul

  • @JackCatto
    @JackCatto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The important thing is now with the new patch, Blue Vegeta doesn't need to use assists anymore to continue combos when counteracting against superdashing. He can go go straight into a superdash, or combo into his Scale move to get the smash bonus.
    All and all, Blue Vegeta has the "superdash without thinking and you die" attack.

  • @AshTyphoon
    @AshTyphoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nobody:
    Me: 1:59 *Thinking about the seal meme*

  • @cassanovaxviii
    @cassanovaxviii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that slowed down KAIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! tho

  • @gukeoke6312
    @gukeoke6312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:12 Voice crack

  • @juubgaming
    @juubgaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    drink challange: *every time vegeta says scale you must take a sip of water*

    • @MoldyBagel
      @MoldyBagel  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yuh stay hydrated baby

  • @dynamiterobin7875
    @dynamiterobin7875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I can do is say thank you because you got Vegeta Blue buffed enough for me to start playing him