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Real Time with Bill Maher: George W. Bush, War Criminal? (HBO)
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Bill Maher and his guests - Michael "Killer Mike" Render, Ana Navarro, Josh Green and Margaret Cho - discuss George W. Bush's legacy and whether he can help his brother's campaign.
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Short Answer: Yes, he's a war criminal.
@The One Who Knocks Invading Iraq to find supposed weapons of mass destruction is a good start. There were no weapons, and where thousands of Iraqi civilians, including innocent women and children (not to mention US and coalition soldiers) needlessly died. It was a monumental blunder perpetrated by himself and the then UK prime minister Tony Blair; both of whom orchestrated the war (which is still ongoing by the way) and should be brought to justice by the International Court of Justice and be tried for War crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
For bringing Saddam Hussein to justice? STFU.
@MickeyMantle7 does it needs an explanation? Killing over a million humans
In less than 2 years under the so-called
"Operation of iraqi freedom" and "War on terror"
@JustE77248 a million of Iraqi and more than 200k afghan got killed during war on terror, that is the short answer for yor question
@SheepOfChrist818 his inhumanity in iraq,Afghanistan,using uranium on Iraqis,killing million of civilians im saying this as an iraqi
I wonder how this Republican, Nicaraguan lady who fled her country feels about Syrian refugees.
Mmmm, how much do you know about Nicaragua?
Um, how much do you know about Syria? What, pray-tell, is the intent of your clearly-rhetorical question?
You guys always assume they had a civil war and these poor Nicaraguans were just fleeing. It has always been the elite in Latin America against the rest. As soon as the majority there lets their voices be heard the rich ask for our military. And start running here in the meantime. Same thing in Venezuela now.
Bush let in 4x the refugees of Bill Clinton, and supported a path to citizenship.
@Sahil Sadik Niloy The president didn't vote for war, Congress did.
1:38 GWB is great because he had "good leadership abilities"? Seriously Lol, so did Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini... should we praise them as well?
Good point
What about all the Iraq citizens that died, woman and children, killed for no reason, war criminal indeed.
I don't feel bad for the muslims, I feel bad that our soldiers went to die for nothing
Rough estimates conclude around half a million Iraqi people were killed in a war that had no reason to be started, don't you think that pissed those people off and probably created more terrorists and more deaths and we're supposed to believe that the guy who started it so his billionaire buddies could make more money is a hero, you think the Bush family gives a shit about working class america and the soldiers who gave their lives. If it wasn't for the U.S poking its nose into the foreign affairs of muslim countries (ie putting Sadam Hussein into power in the first place) then 911 would have never happened. We created the terrorists in the first place, Osama BinLaden was originally employed and trained by the CIA during the 80's in the russian/afghan war as a freedom fighter, he in turn created Al Qaeda with our help to fight the russians so terrorism is entirely our fault, as is the deaths of any Americans who have died from terrorists created and trained by our own government, all true, look it up.
+Peter Parker I would even argue that the USA is training and arming Isis fighters. if not for the Russians the caliphate would've gotten bigger and stronger.
who is buying the oil produced in Isis controlled areas?
why didn't the nato countries bombed the shit out of these oil refineries?
Isis makes a estimated 2 million dollars a day selling said oil. look it up. and Isis is using USA weapon systems. wake the fuck up
The leadership of Isis is the broken remains of the Iraqi Military leadership and Sadams security services, our old allies who we sold arms to and trained with our school of the americas special forces 'observers'. Yeah its quite the chess game they play.
+Peter Parker we agree in all things said
the wake up remark is for other people on the tread.
and just to follow your statement we witnessed a lot of this "chess" games perpetrated by usa's imperialism m. o. trough out last decades
Didn't the CIA arm the contra rebels in Nicaragua that lead to that civil war
Yep, evidently she's rather adaptable..
Like any other rightist from Nicaragua or central America, they have selective memory.
Yup under Republican President Ronald Reagan it was called Iran Contra how they got the money to buy the Guns was to sell large amounts of Cocaine in American Urban inner cities which started the Crack epidemic,Mass incarceration of Blacks,Unfair Sentencing laws.....but she a Republican?¿
+snoopyrawdogg Yeah basically by looking the other way on the contras funding themselves with drug money in the middle of the so called war on drugs and then using the money to bribe Iran to release hostages.
+Dom King That is one screwed up way to launder money. Oliver North and ADM Poindexter would've been better off simply going to HSBC!!!!!!
How in the hell can someone who fled civil war in central America support ANY of the current GOP candidates? Did that woman suffer a debilitating head injury before immigrating to the US?
+Kaycee K Because she's religious and you know who holds the bulk of those cards.
+TheAstraeuss Yeah the basic logical fallacy that it's ok to support fascists as long as they're fight communists.
+Dom King except those fascists then went on to start killing her friends and people, that's the point that makes her crazy, these guys were armed and supplied by the us and given free reign in south America, when they weren't fighting communists they were butchering and or raping their own people.
+Kaycee K It's the GOP. The party of family values. Sell cocaine and take the profits to pay for guns. Give the guns (not sell) to terrorists.
+Kaycee K Fascists flee wars they're losing all the time.
It's so scary that Americans don't think about the innocent Iraqis that were killed a single time...
My thinking exactly, even those on the right side still cannot think outside of their own bubble
"Let's not throw that term around so loosely."
Then says:
"War criminals are Nazis."
bush and a war criminal
She meant Nazis are war criminals, not that all war criminals are Nazis
@@jedimaster1562She'll be in for a rude awakening when she finds out what US soldiers were doing on foreign soil
George Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld - War Criminals
the whole admin were complicit
and Bolton
Add a few more names Obama, Clintons, JFK, FDR, Truman, LBJ, Lincoln.
@@Gamerad360 not jfk, he was assasinated bc he didnt stick to the script
@@mojewjewjew4420 Yes, but he almost destroyed most of mankind, by almost starting a nuclear war, because he didn't want to look weak.
*"Go Home!"*
Hahahaha
+nightwish672 i thought that wasnt cool
+nightwish672 I actually wrote the comment "Go home, lady!" (a common insult where I'm from) and then the guy yelled it in the video, so I had to delete the comment :D
No better than Trump.
Gotta love when people say "he made a mistake and he'll have to live with it". No, everyone will have to live with it. The government isn't allowed to make mistakes because those mistakes can cost lives. Those mistakes can lead to inequality. Those mistakes can lead to the acceptance and tolerance of future mistakes. It is the job of our government to avoid mistakes at all cost because it is of the utmost importance to the nation as a whole. The fact that these mistakes keep happening quite regularly disgusts me. Clearly this shows we have a major flaw in our government.
We have major corruption in the system ….it sucks plainly put!
How Ana is still ever taken seriously is beyond me
I don't think she is taken seriously. She is a minority token used by her puppeteers. And given what she claims her history is for emigrating to the US, she is actually a traitor to the humans facing devastations of war.
according to wiki, 4425 US soldiers died in iraq, so i think this qualifies as "another 9/11" under bush
2996 People died During the World Trade Center.... Amazing what has changed for that and since then.
Hilarious
More Americans and Civilians died under Obama, and Clinton supported the war in Iraq as well as 80 other democrats.
@Sahil Sadik Niloy If that was true, then why did the DNC run Clinton?
How did you forget 2 million dead iraqis?
She may be Nicaraguan, but there's a term we use in Mexico to describe her type of character: "Malinchista"
Killer Mike.
This was actually an intense conversation! More of these please
That Nicaraguan lady makes us as Hispanics look like idiots 😡
Comedians in the US are a more reliable source of information then the news channels.
Damn, Ana got OWNED big time by Bill! =D The real question is, why didn't they bring up waterboarding?
Pannel : Ohh sorry guys yeah the iraq-war was a mistake...
people in iraq: still getting murdererd
True
Jeb bush got 7.8% of the vote in South Carolina. His brother really helped
His Brother NEVER HELPED. 😅
I love how she thought she would come on and spread Jeb love and noone would call her on it lmao
They're all talking about wounded American soldiers, but not about millions of civilian lives murdered in Iraq. Hypocrisy of Americans.
1:00 it wasnt a mistake, it was planned
It was planned, but all the Clinton's and bidens supported it. Obama planned libya war and Syria war and to some degree did escalate it
I like when Bill steps in and Defends Ms. Cho. He took that Comedian comment to heart.
I think I died from laughter . Did she really said Bush prevent another terror attack on america LMAO Let me see the only terror attack happened on Bush's watch hmmm he did a great job letting them into the country
I just spent almost a month in South Carolina where "thank you for your service" is a mantra if it is known that you served. My 95year old father goes around with his WWII Veteran's cap mainly because it gets that applause. I love my dad, but he and my mom had me during the early phases of that war partly because men with families were not being drafted. Then the build-up to D-Day began and the rules were altered to put him on the list. So, a day late and a dollar short, he enlisted in the Army Air Corps for training that again, kept him from getting to see any action. Is it any surprise that he loves W. and the Fox news version of "reality". W. did much the same, and then used privilege of birthright to get selected. We have developed a hereditary neo-monarchistic streak in this country that our founding fathers would abhor. South Carolina, a colony founded by English Monarchy Restorationists, has not strayed far from that impulse it would seem.
When we talk about war in Iraq (or any other), why we never talk about civilian victims (over 100 000 in Iraq)?
"Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time. A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion. Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants."
theres a seal in the auidience
+That Guy
pretty much entire video
+KaedinKane 0:13 That was Margaret Cho.
I've learned that comedians often makes better points then most politicians.
I love watching everyone booing Anna Navarro. If anyone knows of other videos with her being schooled, please share!!
I thought the number of Trump's supporters was surprising. That was until I watched this video. Now I find the fact that people exist who think W. Bush had "leadership abilities" much more surprising. The human mind never ceases to amaze.
Killer Mike was great tonight.
If I EVER see Ana Navarro's yapping face on my computer or TV again, it will be TOO SOON. #batshitcrazy
wow, I'm watching this again! I was shouting at the screen.
I think everybody should watch Michael Moore's documentary on G.W Bush.
It also like she did not know when to stop talking.
"We did not get another 911..."
No, and you did not get one before either.
He said, "they still haven't been able to open their phone!!!"... lol
You go girl, whataboutism queen yall 🎉🎉🎉❤
As someone who lived through a civil war, one might expect Ms. Navarro to be more cognizant of the horrors unleashed by starting a war under phoney pretences.
He started torture! That's automatic war criminal status.
"Comedians can make good points too". Thank you.
no words from anyone
on the Iraqis that died in the US attack..
Great point about the forgotten civilian casualties in Iraq. Who mourns their lost lives? And How Many died ? Some were children, remember..??😩😥
I'm military did not like Bush!
"I think he's going to have to live with some of his mistakes"
Yes, and so do all the soldiers with lost limbs and mental disorders
Exactly.
And their families.
Holy shit this was an intense back and forth! Go Maher!
Killer Mike is back on. Awesome.
someone get this girl out of the show
Haha, how comes that Jeb miserably failed in South Carolina when his approval ratings were 'through the roof'??
Somebody shouted GO HOME😂😂😂😂
this video was a lot more interesting than the others
Killa Mike is really smart for a rapper.
+Juan Hurtado besides he still has this notion that people don't sign up for the military. No one is forced to join, they choose to.
+Billy Magada A lot of people do it coming out of public school in order to get a college education. It's not a terrible thing for everyone, but young people shouldn't be encouraged to sign up to put their lives on the line just so they won't have to suffer through crippling debt in order to receive a college education (especially in cases of horribly corrupt wars like the war in Iraq, or God forbid if Trump becomes president). If a rich kid and a poor kid graduate with similar academic success, the rich kid can go straight to college, the poor kid has to consider whether he should go to such an extreme as to join the military in order to receive higher education. It shouldn't be that way. That is inequality.
Coach Ditka but by no means are they forced. I was never forced to join. I enlisted. When you sign up for the job, you know you might see combat and anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusional.
immortal technique
Billy Magada That's definitely true. I was just making kind of a side note.
Very sad ,unfair and disgusting what was done to my brothers and sisters in Iraq. I am a Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) so i know what aggression is. I hope Iraq recovers. We as Muslims need to unite and learn to love as we are one.
i haven't seen Bill get this fired up in a while
Go home!!! 😂😂
In what way is Bush a war criminal and Obama not? I agree that there's a case to be made for Bush's being a war criminal (on the basis of all the torture that went on) but I also think that the people flailing their arms about his warcrimes should have been adamant about intervening in Iraq and Rwanda during the genocides that took place there. The invasion of Iraq involved a colossal amount of strategic mistakes but I think it should have taken place way before it did.
I'm a Scandinavian leftist so you know my biases.
so why not north Korea?
Scandinavian leftist? How do you feel about the muslims?
menakings23
Do you mean with regards to military interventions? South Korea is more or less a hostage of the North Koreans due to the proximity of Seoul to the border.
I think the situation is absolutely calamatous in North Korea and as soon as there's an opening, there should be an international coalition that invades the country and removes the regime there. The heavy sanctions enforced on the country harm only the poor and needy while the party elites will always be able to manage no matter how tough the sanctions become.
Just because something is not technically war that doesn't mean the things going on in NK are absolutely atrocious. The same with the sanctions on Iraq during the Clinton administration that killed more people than died in the Iraq war. Who knows how many have died because of the sanctions in North Korea.
*****
Would you care to explain in what way I'm confused?
STOP
"the muslims" - Do you mean as a whole or with regards to the immigration crisis? I don't believe in gods so I would prefer if there were less people that don't than do. But I think the Muslims that come to Europe should properly assimilate to our secular culture and adopt our values to the extent that it's possible.
I don't think multiculturalism is basis for a functioning society if there is not a leading secular culture that demands certain things of its citizens. In our case, it is European enlightenment values and equal rights and all that jazz.
OMG I’m watching Ana Navarro and really rooting for her. Watching the View now is completely different person! Come back Ana!
where can i watch the rest of it please?
Can't shake off the feeling that its somehow 'trendy' to bash Bush. I'll be honest, I have no idea about the iraq war, maybe Bush is a war criminal and what not.
But the way people so eagerly and quickly jump on the wagon when somebody starts to criticize him feels very wrong. I have no problem if he is ridiculed, I've got an issue with how people join in en masse. Hate him as a mob.
I cant believe that all those people who joined the crowd actually know what happened in Iraq. Hating Bush and saying something that sounds warm and fuzzy. All this stuff feels like the 'justified hatred' regressives always fall back on.
+GruntSquad92 he earned every ounce of hatred and contempt or himself...
+GruntSquad92 Then educate yourself on what he did before talking, then you'll understand why he is hated.
MAnnaconduit1
how exactly?
Raphanne
whats your reason for hating him?
GruntSquad92 Hmmmm, let's see, Bobothecreepyclown in the comment section summed it up pretty neatly: "Bush started an illegal war, lied to make the case for it, sanctioned murder, torture, kidnapping & illegal detention. He violated every international convention as to the conduct of war, tore up the constitution & created a military/intelligence/police bureaucracy that would make Stalin flinch. GWB & all the other PNAC neo-con fanatics are criminals & should be rotting in prison."
That's without mentioning that he is a complete delusional prick who thought that he was doing a religious holy war in Irak. He caused so many deaths for his delusion of grandeur. He also flipped the finger to the US's oldest ally, France, when he found out that the French opposed the war for lack of evidence of WMD. He then made Americans believe that the French supported terrorists just because they didn't want to join in his shitty war.
DONALD TRUMP 2016!
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Low-info voters vote trump
Harry Huckleberry welfare voters for Bernie sandles
+Jose Corona betcha I've paid more taxes in my lifetime than you'd pay in three. Sanders has my vote.
Trish Stclair good for you.
I love how Killer Mike gets so emotional lol
All about American veterans, what about 300,000 - 1 million Iraqis?
1) Bush is not a "war criminal" just because he went to war, especially since it was in response to an attack and many, if not most, American's did support it. Whether you think the war was a mistake or not, the act of going to war itself does not make you a war criminal. You can hate his guts for the war if you want but to call him a war criminal for it is beyond absurd.
2) This is not WWII or Vietnam where young men were drafted and forced to go to war. All the US soldiers in the Middle East joined the military by choice and, from what I hear, most of them want to be there. Doesn't make them less deserving of respect though, they're still risking their lives. even if The Middle East wars are no nearly as dangerous WWII or Vietnam was.
3) From what I've heard about why the government did not respond the 9/11 memos: they get memos about crazy stuff like that all time, if they had to take every single one of them seriously, it would be chaos. At the time, it was unthinkable that an attack would occur so they didn't take it that seriously. Ironically, after the attack, they arguably took it too seriously with the Patriot Act.
+E George It He called it a threat, not weapons. Second, torture is only a crime against innocents, just like all the Geneva conventions. Otherwise people could kill you before you even get to cry about the Geneva Convention.
Finally an oasis of common sense!
+E George You say Bush is a war criminal, so have the court prove him guilty yet?
+Bob Jones Actually what's "beyond absurd" are comments like this being made after all we know now. BUSH WENT TO WAR AGAINST A COUNTRY THAT DIDN"T ATTACK US, GET IT? Sure most Americans supported it because they were duped into thinking that there was link between Saddam and the attackers and that Saddam had WMDs. The government spreads the lies and the media bangs the drums of support instead of asking hard questions. The ones that do object and raise questions (like Phil Donahue) are fired or accused of being unpatriotic. Also, who said anything about disrespecting the troops? What evidence do you have that the Middle East is not nearly as dangerous as WW2 or Vietnam? Do you think that it disrespects the troops when the State Dept. hires mercenaries to fulfill military roles in Iraq and pays them far more than regular soldiers make?
Dash Riprock George Bush said the threat of WMDs. And that was entirely true at the time, Iraq didn't allow inspections into presidential palaces just like 1998.
How the hell can you defend Bush in 2016?
John Dean and Vince Bugliosi have made the case.
They didn't upload, but there's a segment of the episode where Maher asks, "How can anything get done in America when you have to run it past Antonin Scalia first?"
The next day, his question (prayers) were answered.
Dude I fucking love Killer Mike. I can't wait for RTJ 3
There is no need for the question mark in the title
This talk is damn awesome 👍👍😂😂
Bill took her down. 🙌🏼😂😂
For an Iraqi considering Bush a war criminal is not a massive leap. Is it?
why is no one speaking about the thousands he killed in Iraq, are they not humans? are American soldiers the only ones that count?
I really like Overtime because of the uncensored discussion they have and you really get to see what everyone at the table truly thinks without any political correctness...but I just have to say (as a moderate liberal) I do feel like whenever a conservative is on they're only there to be a punching bag for Bill and the audience....that's just what it seems like
I like this, so raw
That woman is maddening. May I smack that smirk off of her face?
4:49 lmao
Name a war without a single atrocities.
Ana is a very good debater. I wish I would have had her on my team in college. She can blow smoke up anyone's ass. I love it
She's right, under Bush we didn't get two 9/11s... we suffered just the one.
'mistakes' has a new meaning
Wow. Heavy.
I'm that guy in the grey suit at 3:23 whenever the lady in the purple speaks words.
Leadership abilities. No better demonstrated when he sat there for 20 minutes with the hamster wheel going round inside his head after he was told "the country is under attack".
Dear Mr Render. You are so very right. Why the F___ does not the rest of the Republican Party get it. I WOULD VOTE FOR YOU!
Wow l’ve never seen Navarro booed before 😳😅
I wanted to see more bill going in on her about San Bernardino. how you going to blame Obama for that?
Jeb got 7.8% in SC primary, not even close to the 95% she was claiming. Bet she will blame the "media" for the results.
Can someone please explain what "leadership abilities" means and what it means to "see" them?
Margaret cho, You are a true courageous women. I've been expecting for americans to say that for the last 10 years. I'm an indian and an atheist, i think that it completely outrageous for a country to impose its policies on to other countries. same with israel.
When Bill had a brain.
He led my father to the bar in Atlanta Georgia at the world war II convention
If someone is saying something in a respectful manner that you disagree with and you respond by yelling insults and shouting at them to go home, then you are the problem. Regardless of who is right or wrong, the person who ends the conversation with emotional outbursts is the problem.
God damn this show is getting real.
JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!
That Nicaraguan woman... She has such a sweet voice!!!
True so true.
Killer Mike is so cute!
What makes GW Bush a war criminal was declaring war on a country that had nothing to do with the perpetrators of the attack.
Breaks my heart whenever I see a Latin American Republican, and she's a woman, like, goddamit, your literally against your own self interest. Dammit.