@@masasikisimoto26 Bucky covers a lot and does it quick, but he doesn't go to the same depth that Cherno does when describing concepts. Speed isn't always better, and Cherno ensures to cover a lot of important concepts that Bucky doesn't necessarily get to in an appropriate manner. That being said I enjoy both of their videos.
That incrementing integer through memory addresses part is what really blew my bloody mind. Lower level languages never cease to surprise me. Coming from python, I feel like I'm capable of black magic now.
@@DragonKidPlaysMC Rust isn't taking over anything, definitely not C++. You don't realize what you're saying. Apart from some more narrow use cases, C++ will reign supreme for a long time.
@@hmthatsniceiguess2828 Almost the entirety of Firefox is written in Rust. Chromium has started including Rust in it. Hell, even the Linux kernel, which shunned C++ from its codebase, is going to start using Rust in it. C++ is fun to write and experiment in, Rust is not. It's a bit locked down. Rust is fun to write a serious application, when memory leaks become a serious issue and GC isn't an option and smart pointers are too much of a runtime overhead for you liking.
I have been a 'C' programmer for over 40 years. I was a systems programmer for Unix. I came here to get an explanation of Variable References and I just want to say thank you. I watched a few other videos but this was the best explanation. Thank you for being simple, concise, and clean in your explanation.
Mate, your videos are the best. Just to give you some insight into the variety of your target group and the impact that your videos are having: I'm an assistent professor in Econometrics at a top international university. As part of my research, I have developed novel statistical estimation procedures that work great for high-dimensional datasets (big data). The estimators can be computationally heavy and I have always programmed them in R, which made the computations painstakingly slow. A year ago, with the help of your videos, I made the switch to C++ (through the use of Rcpp) and my code has sped up x100. Not only have I been able to obtain valuable scientific insights by means of simulations a lot faster now (and publish them faster in academic journals), I have also turned my code into R packages, backprogrammed in C++, and made it available for other researchers. This explanation on passing by reference alone has saved me and researchers using my package a ton of time! Thanks a lot and please keep doing what your doing.
The most articulate videos regarding computer programming that I have ever watched! I know this is a very "old" video at this point and, perhaps, there are better ones to comment on but there are clearly still people benefiting spectacularly from this series. I guess you're still the best of the best!!
I'm not exactly sure if this series is beginner friendly. There are places where if I was a beginner, I feel like I'd be totally confused (then again that might not be the case for everyone). But as an intermediate programmer coming from C#, this stuff is pure gold. Super helpful and very well explained.
As you say, it's not mean for beginners in programming. But, if you already know the basic concepts of programming like variables, conditionals, loops, functions and clases, then this course is really good.
@@daniazzam1161 newer CPP versions almost never affect core concepts such as variables, normal pointers or references so you dont have anything to worry about. Only the advanced concepts of the langauge can change with a new CPP version/standard
Man, you're really awesome. I have seen many many tutorials in many topics before, but I have never seen such high quality nor someone who has such knowledge or clear way to explain things like you. I am really a big fan of yours.
that 3 types of input is amazing! basically included everything you need to know to take advantage of pointer reference and a single variable. Amazing vid!
From an old 'C' programmer trying to break old habits and fully convert to 'C++' way of things, these videos are awesome. Short, simple and to the point and even work at 1.5 playback speed. I now have the urge to find out when references was added to the language and if it has anything to do with ".Net"'s arrival?
@@idk-bv3iw This is why Stroustrup (and everybody else) warns against the preprocessor. Or at least against overuse. But most of the time we are working with 'legacy code', so we have to be aware of the pitfalls and endure the headaches.
Thank you Cherno for your high quality videos. I don't normally do projects in C++ but I needed to create a plugin for a program that is written in C++ and your videos made this a breeze.
Watching some of your videos as a total beginner in C++ and coding in general I'm like "Oh, now I get it" in the first half to "What the..." towards the end of the video. Great work by the way! Thanks a lot!
@@mastershooter64 I've read it a few years after I started learning c++, so I already knew a bit more than just the absolute basics but I think you can also read it earlier. I would not recommend reading it in the first few weeks or so though, because it is very technical and might be confusing. But I think at some point it's very helpful, it's very thick and thorough, it filled many small gaps that I had als self taught c++ programmer.
Oh man… this was exactly what I needed to see. Thanks for showing the simple example with the reference to a first, then confusing the crap outta me with function example where you use de-referencing and pointers, then getting me back on track with the pass by reference example. I needed to see the easy then convoluted case before I could understand why the final example was the way to go. You clearly thought that through. You’re awesome.
I have been too lucky to find this course today in TH-cam. It is 12:35 am and I can’t stop watching these amazing tutorial. You should be teaching at Harvard. Please upload videos on optimized C++
Better explanation than the one found in the "The C++ programming language" by the creator of C++. There I didn't understand a bit. Here I swiftly got it! Thanks!
In books like that they don't try to be easy to understand. They try to be precise. Well, being easy to understand isn't the primary objective at least.
@@klarnorbert The issue with certain books is they assume prior knowledge in certain areas. It's like if you picked up a calculus book it's going to assume some prior math knowledge. Computer science and programming books can be very much the same. If you're an absolute beginner or nearly that then its something worth looking into before buying a book.
Seeing this video after the pointer video actually also made pointers way clearer to me as well once you started comparing their functionality at the end of the video. Amazing stuff.
This series of videos is very beginner-friendly, the first half of the series is very detailed, but the latter is a brushstroke, all in all, very well done!!!
Even though this is about references... Ironically this is an excellent video displaying the usefulness of pointers. Your examples and explanations are top tier.
I am serious when I am saying that you are probably the only youtuber that doesn't make me lose concentration or fall asleep after 10 minutes! Thank you
Thank you for that quick summary for the documenting the use of pointers and references as alias/ address alloc. I will come back to this video every time I run into a snag. Thanks again.
Dude, you dont know how much I owe you. I think that I already saw at least 2/3 of all of your videos. I'm graduating in computer science and..I was really dismotivated... I have nice grades and all, I understand the theoretical part of the classes but I was getting dismotivated at each semester and no interest at all in coding. Your videos gave fresh air to me and to my graduation. You're trully amazing. thanks.
Lmao. A few years too late Cherno, but I straight failed my CIS class that just taught basic C++ because of this particular chapter kicking my ass. Your explanation just cemented what I felt I found out while working in Unreal engine with their Blueprints. But I was never able to grasp it in a pure C++ environment. Now I do. Thank you man.
My god, all the bulbs are going on(off?). Im enjoying each and every one of these video and also coding along as well using VSCode on Linux. You are a God send👏
Thank you so much for doing this! This was incredibly helpful. I'm about halfway through my C++ class at school and I could not have gotten this far without you! Thank you for this service to the Dev Community!
In short, we use references to save space in RAM as much as possible or wherever possible and use pointers when we intend to change the memory address we are pointing to, or to allocate a chunk of memory to a variable.
I used & in Parameter for quite sometime now and I never realised that it's actually the memory address I'm referencing. I finally start to understand the importance and usefulness of pointer and memory addresses.
You really know how to explain things with precision. Not everyone has the ability to do that. This series is amazing and I hope you keep updating it cuz it`s really needed.
variable are really just an reference to a memory if you will. A pointer is a special variable which holds memory address but essentially is a reference to a particular memory which will hold an address of another address of memory. The same comparison you did between types of memory. It all does about the same essential thing.
I cannot believe that there are people who would actually dislike that man's video for fck sake I do not believe that someone can actually come up with a better explanation than this. Congs man love you.
Best and most simple explanation on pointers and references. I think it's better to use pointers instead of referees because it communicates clearly that we're passing a pointer to a function and as a result the variable can be variable can be changed.
I just recently discovered your channel and I must say I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the other viewers who say that this is the best C++ resource on TH-cam! Thanks so much for the fantastic content! Your channel has been invaluable in my quest to learn C++!
Thank you so much for making these videos. I'm a self-taught programmer when it comes to C++ and C (in uni we only learn Java) and until just now I never really grasped the concept of pointers and references. Awesome work and great explanations!
You just got a permanent fan, i just can't say student for now coz i'm not learning c++ right now, but really inspired by your videos, keep up the good work man. Thank you so much for giving us awesome videos like this.
Can you please make a video explaining rvalue references, universal references, std::move and std::forward? Why we need them, when and where we should use them, etc. Thanks.
References do occupy memory since under the hood they are just pointers(can be seen using disassembler). But I guess it depends on compiler implementation. Just as you said they are supposed to be used as an alias. And they make the call by reference look a lot cleaner than the pointer version.
I assume that, unless the reference is used to pass something to a function call (cuz the function needs to store that pointer somewhere), the compiler will just optimise it away as a simple alias in release mode. Maybe not in debug mode though
pointer makes me feels more logical and makes more sense. reference makes the whole code cleaner but you might forget the 'variable' is really a 'variable' or a reference
I'm laying with my phone at 3:14 am on christmas eve and watching c++ tutorials. What has my life become.
Yes. That is sad.
@@lucasgroves137 I actually felt pretty happy at that moment.
@@LuskyMJ So you were crying wolf. And on Xmas Eve too. 😄
After a year now I'm sure that you realized you did the right thing 👍
At least you have a good taste in Anime girls
I think I'm going to comment on every one of these videos.... Again, hands down, best C++ videos on the web... hands down.
agree
Any reason with that? Said little boy?
Have you guys seen Bucky's C++ tutorials? They are much better.
@@masasikisimoto26 Bucky covers a lot and does it quick, but he doesn't go to the same depth that Cherno does when describing concepts. Speed isn't always better, and Cherno ensures to cover a lot of important concepts that Bucky doesn't necessarily get to in an appropriate manner. That being said I enjoy both of their videos.
Truly appreciate these stuffs.
Its a bench mark for a standard video
He talks about references like the priest talks about angels.
that's right
It really is fascinating, I lost my shit when I learned about pointers/references.
That incrementing integer through memory addresses part is what really blew my bloody mind. Lower level languages never cease to surprise me. Coming from python, I feel like I'm capable of black magic now.
Black magic 😅
Wait till you learn C
Trust me my mind is more blown im coming from roblox studios Luau 💀
Truth be told! your explanations are much much better than the paid lynda courses on C++! Thank you for these amazing videos!
yeah maybe cause your teacher probably never had a job at ea💀 its the hard truth
Once C++ starts clicking for you, it REALLY makes sense. Damn. No wonder this shit has been industry standard for so damn long.
i kinda got problems with learning C++, so i rewatch these vids
@John McGee rust will take over c++
@@DragonKidPlaysMC Rust isn't taking over anything, definitely not C++. You don't realize what you're saying. Apart from some more narrow use cases, C++ will reign supreme for a long time.
@@hmthatsniceiguess2828 Almost the entirety of Firefox is written in Rust. Chromium has started including Rust in it. Hell, even the Linux kernel, which shunned C++ from its codebase, is going to start using Rust in it.
C++ is fun to write and experiment in, Rust is not. It's a bit locked down. Rust is fun to write a serious application, when memory leaks become a serious issue and GC isn't an option and smart pointers are too much of a runtime overhead for you liking.
I really hope I'll reach that point
I have been a 'C' programmer for over 40 years. I was a systems programmer for Unix. I came here to get an explanation of Variable References and I just want to say thank you. I watched a few other videos but this was the best explanation. Thank you for being simple, concise, and clean in your explanation.
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle same.
dude these videos are like three years old now so idk if you're gonna read this but you are so helpful thank you so much
Mate, your videos are the best. Just to give you some insight into the variety of your target group and the impact that your videos are having: I'm an assistent professor in Econometrics at a top international university. As part of my research, I have developed novel statistical estimation procedures that work great for high-dimensional datasets (big data). The estimators can be computationally heavy and I have always programmed them in R, which made the computations painstakingly slow. A year ago, with the help of your videos, I made the switch to C++ (through the use of Rcpp) and my code has sped up x100. Not only have I been able to obtain valuable scientific insights by means of simulations a lot faster now (and publish them faster in academic journals), I have also turned my code into R packages, backprogrammed in C++, and made it available for other researchers. This explanation on passing by reference alone has saved me and researchers using my package a ton of time! Thanks a lot and please keep doing what your doing.
100%
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Great content
The most articulate videos regarding computer programming that I have ever watched! I know this is a very "old" video at this point and, perhaps, there are better ones to comment on but there are clearly still people benefiting spectacularly from this series. I guess you're still the best of the best!!
These videos are so useful! Thank you for your time :)
I'm not exactly sure if this series is beginner friendly. There are places where if I was a beginner, I feel like I'd be totally confused (then again that might not be the case for everyone). But as an intermediate programmer coming from C#, this stuff is pure gold. Super helpful and very well explained.
no this series is clearly not to follow from scratch , but when u get familier with basic stuff this is 100% the best place to come.
As you say, it's not mean for beginners in programming. But, if you already know the basic concepts of programming like variables, conditionals, loops, functions and clases, then this course is really good.
I love your no-nonsense explanations in clear english! Please take my horse as payment.
Every video in this series is absolute gold. Such clarity.
I'm curious how much of this changes with C++14
I am new to this series, is there a lot of changes in the newer Cpp versions?
@@daniazzam1161 newer CPP versions almost never affect core concepts such as variables, normal pointers or references so you dont have anything to worry about. Only the advanced concepts of the langauge can change with a new CPP version/standard
Man, you're really awesome. I have seen many many tutorials in many topics before, but I have never seen such high quality nor someone who has such knowledge or clear way to explain things like you.
I am really a big fan of yours.
that 3 types of input is amazing! basically included everything you need to know to take advantage of pointer reference and a single variable. Amazing vid!
From an old 'C' programmer trying to break old habits and fully convert to 'C++' way of things, these videos are awesome. Short, simple and to the point and even work at 1.5 playback speed. I now have the urge to find out when references was added to the language and if it has anything to do with ".Net"'s arrival?
are you watching his videos on 1.5 playback? i'm even struggling on the normal speed lol
By the way... This:
#define LOG(x) std::cout
@@rrmm5453 Because 16 in binary is 0001 0000. He is bit-shifting it to the left by 2 (16
@Neel Shukla when the preprocessor sees '
@@RandomDays906 The preprocessor doesn't see anything, it just copy-pastes code and just replaces x with the argument. So std::cout
@@idk-bv3iw This is why Stroustrup (and everybody else) warns against the preprocessor. Or at least against overuse. But most of the time we are working with 'legacy code', so we have to be aware of the pitfalls and endure the headaches.
Thank you Cherno for your high quality videos. I don't normally do projects in C++ but I needed to create a plugin for a program that is written in C++ and your videos made this a breeze.
years of trying to understand references, and now after one of your 10 minute videos i've finally got it. THANK YOU!
Watching some of your videos as a total beginner in C++ and coding in general I'm like "Oh, now I get it" in the first half to "What the..." towards the end of the video. Great work by the way! Thanks a lot!
Currently reading through "the C++ programing language 4th edition" and these video help understanding it immensely. Thank you!
Great book. Once you read a certain level I would recommend it to every C++ programmer, even if it can be a bit scary at first.
@@MsJavaWolf so... once you learn the basics of c++ you should read "the C++ programming language 4th edition"?
@@mastershooter64 I've read it a few years after I started learning c++, so I already knew a bit more than just the absolute basics but I think you can also read it earlier. I would not recommend reading it in the first few weeks or so though, because it is very technical and might be confusing.
But I think at some point it's very helpful, it's very thick and thorough, it filled many small gaps that I had als self taught c++ programmer.
Best c++ videos on the web! Thankyou.
Oh man… this was exactly what I needed to see. Thanks for showing the simple example with the reference to a first, then confusing the crap outta me with function example where you use de-referencing and pointers, then getting me back on track with the pass by reference example. I needed to see the easy then convoluted case before I could understand why the final example was the way to go. You clearly thought that through. You’re awesome.
This little 10 min video could've saved me so much pain back in 2016 when I was doing CS at uni. -__-
The fact that this is one of the best courses for learning C++, In-depth theory, and clean code and it's free just boggles my mind.
I have been too lucky to find this course today in TH-cam. It is 12:35 am and I can’t stop watching these amazing tutorial. You should be teaching at Harvard. Please upload videos on optimized C++
Best c++ series ever, i understand pointers in 30min after 5 years in college :(
u suck
I was frustrated with this & but now it seems all clear, everything makes sense now. ThankYou
Your all videos are saving my life in August 2021. Thank you.
Better explanation than the one found in the "The C++ programming language" by the creator of C++. There I didn't understand a bit. Here I swiftly got it! Thanks!
In books like that they don't try to be easy to understand. They try to be precise. Well, being easy to understand isn't the primary objective at least.
I also got a book from him, but it's like he's talking alien.
@@klarnorbert The issue with certain books is they assume prior knowledge in certain areas. It's like if you picked up a calculus book it's going to assume some prior math knowledge. Computer science and programming books can be very much the same. If you're an absolute beginner or nearly that then its something worth looking into before buying a book.
@level90s Second this. Great book. Make sure to get 2nd Edition.
Seeing this video after the pointer video actually also made pointers way clearer to me as well once you started comparing their functionality at the end of the video. Amazing stuff.
This series of videos is very beginner-friendly, the first half of the series is very detailed, but the latter is a brushstroke, all in all, very well done!!!
The instruction is really clear and on point, I won't be confused the notion of Pointer and Refference anymore. Really thank you
Even though this is about references... Ironically this is an excellent video displaying the usefulness of pointers. Your examples and explanations are top tier.
I am serious when I am saying that you are probably the only youtuber that doesn't make me lose concentration or fall asleep after 10 minutes! Thank you
Thank you for that quick summary for the documenting the use of pointers and references as alias/ address alloc. I will come back to this video every time I run into a snag. Thanks again.
I LOVE this video totally changed the way i look at C++ and what i can do you are amazing
Dude, you dont know how much I owe you.
I think that I already saw at least 2/3 of all of your videos.
I'm graduating in computer science and..I was really dismotivated... I have nice grades and all, I understand the theoretical part of the classes but I was getting dismotivated at each semester and no interest at all in coding. Your videos gave fresh air to me and to my graduation.
You're trully amazing.
thanks.
Cherno is doing a great job, a true dev , learned from his known experience and sharing it in terms which a normal person can easily understand.
This video series has been extremely helpful, thank you for making them.
this video actually made what pointers are more clear to me, thanks man
I though pointers and references were way more complicated but this makes perfect sense!
You explain every concept in a so concise and understandable way. Helped me a lot. Thx.
Thanks for this awesome C++ tutorial series :)
i used to struggle with pointers and references but this video rlly helped me a lot. thank u cherno
I really enjoy your videos cause not only I don’t need to fast forward it, but sometimes I have to even pause to check out the codes!
Lmao. A few years too late Cherno, but I straight failed my CIS class that just taught basic C++ because of this particular chapter kicking my ass.
Your explanation just cemented what I felt I found out while working in Unreal engine with their Blueprints. But I was never able to grasp it in a pure C++ environment. Now I do.
Thank you man.
Thanks Man... Very well explained the concept of references!
The best tutorials I found so far. Explanations are clean and understandable. Much better than my school.
Commenting for your exposure. The best channel on TH-cam for C++ !!!
I just want to say thank you. Your teaching is so good.
My god, all the bulbs are going on(off?). Im enjoying each and every one of these video and also coding along as well using VSCode on Linux. You are a God send👏
On of the clearest explanations I've ever seen, kudos to you, for being so clear.
Thank you so much for doing this! This was incredibly helpful. I'm about halfway through my C++ class at school and I could not have gotten this far without you! Thank you for this service to the Dev Community!
Really Nice...finally I think I understand the two most painful things in c++ ;)
In short, we use references to save space in RAM as much as possible or wherever possible and use pointers when we intend to change the memory address we are pointing to, or to allocate a chunk of memory to a variable.
I used & in Parameter for quite sometime now and I never realised that it's actually the memory address I'm referencing.
I finally start to understand the importance and usefulness of pointer and memory addresses.
You are great but it's slightly unnerving how you never blink
Seeing a man in his kitchen talking about C++ is bizarre, but a nice breath of fresh air from a man talking behind screen capture software
believe me. I am coming from Stroustrup C++ book. I didn't understand references there. and Booooom. it's crystal clear now.
You really know how to explain things with precision. Not everyone has the ability to do that. This series is amazing and I hope you keep updating it cuz it`s really needed.
variable are really just an reference to a memory if you will. A pointer is a special variable which holds memory address but essentially is a reference to a particular memory which will hold an address of another address of memory. The same comparison you did between types of memory. It all does about the same essential thing.
This is the BEST C++ videos ever! The concepts and examples are very clear and it is very useful!
I cannot believe that there are people who would actually dislike that man's video for fck sake I do not believe that someone can actually come up with a better explanation than this. Congs man love you.
This is still the most intuitive video I've ever seen on C++ references.
Best and most simple explanation on pointers and references.
I think it's better to use pointers instead of referees because it communicates clearly that we're passing a pointer to a function and as a result the variable can be variable can be changed.
I just recently discovered your channel and I must say I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the other viewers who say that this is the best C++ resource on TH-cam! Thanks so much for the fantastic content! Your channel has been invaluable in my quest to learn C++!
Every time I want to get the variable's value and change that, I couldn't. But this way it could be sense! Thanks for making this awesome video!
High quality human here!!!!! I still have hope when I meet person like you!!! Thank you!!!
The best explanation video for references very good thank you so much !!!!
Syntactic sugar, indeed. Here's a fun little experiment to try at home:
int *pi = new(int);
int& ri { *pi };
ri = 6;
cout
*subscribes* Also, if you have time I'd really appreciate a data structures playlist in C++ specifically.
look up mycodeschool they have alot
Me: wow, I'm afraid I lost myself
The Cherno: really simple stuff
4:04 the best explanation ever of function, thank you soooo much
You just explained my biggest confusion! :D
Perfect tutorial series, truly awesome
Thanks Cherno. very useful as always.
Thank you so much for making these videos. I'm a self-taught programmer when it comes to C++ and C (in uni we only learn Java) and until just now I never really grasped the concept of pointers and references. Awesome work and great explanations!
You just got a permanent fan, i just can't say student for now coz i'm not learning c++ right now, but really inspired by your videos, keep up the good work man.
Thank you so much for giving us awesome videos like this.
This guy deserves every cent of patreon support..
This is by far the best explanation I have seen about references and its relations to pointers. Very awesome!!
your teachings are awesome!!!!!!!
watching this series for a 2nd time - still getting carpet knowledge-bombed by a B52
all hail to The Cherno
Difference between reference and pointers:
pointers take up more space than references
Can you please make a video explaining rvalue references, universal references, std::move and std::forward? Why we need them, when and where we should use them, etc. Thanks.
In C++, references are just "aliases" of variables, rather than pointers that store addresses.
omg, he just said "very simple stuff", while my brain is short circuiting.
all jokes aside, you really are the best c++ coding instructor here.
References do occupy memory since under the hood they are just pointers(can be seen using disassembler). But I guess it depends on compiler implementation. Just as you said they are supposed to be used as an alias. And they make the call by reference look a lot cleaner than the pointer version.
I assume that, unless the reference is used to pass something to a function call (cuz the function needs to store that pointer somewhere), the compiler will just optimise it away as a simple alias in release mode. Maybe not in debug mode though
@@Reydriel Sounds reasonable.
pointer makes me feels more logical and makes more sense. reference makes the whole code cleaner but you might forget the 'variable' is really a 'variable' or a reference
You are a god among us, dearest Yan. Thank you for being an awesome guide on our journey to conquer C++!!
Perfect example as always. Thanks for the series!
thank bro, your explanation is so clear. i appreciate what your playlist
Deffinitly deserved a subscribe
Thank you. Your videos are deeply appreciated.
dear the cherno, you explain way better than my instructors
Your video is clear, concise and filled with helpful examples. Great series Cherno!
thank you for making this video, this last semester i had no idea what references were and they just popped up one day in my class and i was just lost