Classifying critical points using the Hessian determinant

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  • @mehdiezzine292
    @mehdiezzine292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the balance between being straight to the point and giving enough explanation so that the concept sticks. Very few math educators are able to walk that tight rope as good as you sir.

  • @S25J9
    @S25J9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video. You presented the Hessian Matrix in a way that was easy to understand and visualize. Thank you so much David.

  • @dagmarski4133
    @dagmarski4133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Clear and straight to the point, thank you!

  • @zhena-9527
    @zhena-9527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    short but clear and easy-understanding video, thank you.

  • @PHOENIX-mv3uc
    @PHOENIX-mv3uc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a student from Morocco
    Thanks a LOT !!!

  • @charlescains2091
    @charlescains2091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maths student from the UK, thanks for this video

  • @EggZu_
    @EggZu_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    swear i was looking through my notes for like an hour and a half before just googling it haha

  • @iremiposiajayi122
    @iremiposiajayi122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question if you don’t mind. With constrained optimization, we look at the bordered Hessian matrix and we say that if the determinant is > 0 we have a MAX. This rule seems counterintuitive and out of line with my previous understanding of D2 > 0 translating to a minimum. Is there a way for me to reconcile these two differences in methods intuitively?

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure! I will do my best to answer.
      The previous understanding of D2>0 translating to a minimum is spot on. In the Hessian determinant, we are looking at the four different partial derivatives that exist and creating products.
      Every statement that follows will be for a function of two variables. Imagine a local maximum... from the 2D perspective, it would be concave down from every orientation, meaning that both the partial derivatives f_xx and f_yy would be less than 0. In the Hessian determinant, they are multiplied, which produces a positive number, meaning now that D>0. The same is true for a local minimum being concave up from every orientation: both f_xx and f_yy are positive, meaning that their product is positive as well. This is why a positive D value means a critical point could be a local max OR a local min. It's not until we look at the values of the individual second partial derivatives (f_xx and f_yy) to determine which of these critical points we have.

    • @iremiposiajayi122
      @iremiposiajayi122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidfriday7498 thank you so much for your quick response! I’m actually studying the Fundamentals of Mathematics for Economics by Alpha C. and I hope to finally wrap my head around the concept with time. Thank you so much once again for your help!!

  • @justinchey2281
    @justinchey2281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I couldn’t find online what D=0 means

  • @henryblauth9823
    @henryblauth9823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is also known simply as..... the D

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My personal favorite way to refer to it :-)

  • @cocomatef
    @cocomatef ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh ,why nobody actualy showes a solution of problem with actual numbers???

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then I believe you should probably watch this video: th-cam.com/video/r4AQw1PdDRk/w-d-xo.html

  • @AverageAlaya
    @AverageAlaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a case where my determinant is zero... help :')

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you provide more information, I can certainly help. What was the original function?

    • @AverageAlaya
      @AverageAlaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidfriday7498 Thank you! The function is f(x,y)=x^2+y^2+x^2y; I got the roots but the root -sqrt(2),1 seems to have a determinant of 0. Thank you!

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AverageAlaya I took a look at the graph using Geogebra: www.geogebra.org/3d?lang=en
      I see what looks like a local minimum at (0,0) and saddle points at the other two critical points, including the one you sent. I'll try the problem and see if I get the same result as you.

    • @davidfriday7498
      @davidfriday7498  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AverageAlaya I have completed the problem. I believe I see the issue. When I set the partial derivative with respect to x equal to zero, two cases arose: x=0 or y=-1. I believe you plugged in y=1 rather than y=-1 to the Hessian determinant. This would result in a D value of 0 rather than a D value of -8, which is what I got for both (sqrt(2),-1) and (-sqrt(2),-1). I hope this has helped you in your interpretation of your problem :-)

    • @tangpiseth8416
      @tangpiseth8416 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidfriday7498 Hi I also encounter the same problem. May I ask for your help?, the function is: f(x,y,z)=x^4+x^2y+y^2+z^2+xz+1. There are 3 critical points, one of them is at (0,0,0) and the first principal minor(the bordered Hessian determinant) evaluated at that point is 0. Since the graph of the function is in the 4 dimensions... so I can't use any graphing utilities to help me see the behavior of the graph at that point. Maybe plotting its level surface and with inspection help?

  • @malkavian6275
    @malkavian6275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    slashy slashy

  • @sohanjangid1207
    @sohanjangid1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanx for video

  • @segundobenito5541
    @segundobenito5541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU

  • @vitorsousa5390
    @vitorsousa5390 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good ! Thanks!

  • @sirig03
    @sirig03 ปีที่แล้ว

    trauma inducing indeed when D=0 !

  • @TheGibberingGoblin
    @TheGibberingGoblin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bump