If you want to be a Bible nerd, let me recommend Michael Heiser and especially his Naked Bible Podcast. It's a MUST for BIBLE nerds. In fact I have a friend who is a Bible Scholar and he listens to it...
Got through reading the bible with the bible project reading plan. They have little videos along the way that make it more understandable and theres always Tim's teachings as well. but I'm so glad I got the bible read because I understand it so much better. Now Bible Project has a thing called "classrooms" where you go through so many different ideas like , How to read the bible and maybe the book of Ephesians or whatever and you go online to like a classroom and theres the lesson and questions are asked and answers are explored. Not a nerd but I study what I can.
Although I do not disagree with anything said here, I have to admit I have learned nothing new! For a more scholarly discourse I would recommend Mike Licona's interview of Lee Martin McDonald
I’d have thought this fellow would have a reasonable knowledge of biblical scholarship. But is he really claiming that Moses wrote the Pentateuch? Or at least part of it?
I realize this was over a year ago but Tim says: "he[Moses], or later authors who worked on the Torah or Pentateuch after Moses,..." I can see how the phrasing could be interpreted either way, but I've listened to Tim Mackie speak in more depth about the Pentateuch so I'm fairly certain he knows enough not to suggest Moses wrote it.
@@kevinsimpson6147 Thanks for your reply. Maybe not as bad as I thought, but even to suggest that Moses wrote anything is a tad gullible, to say the least. Anyway, I have always found Mackie to be really shallow, and hippy drippy, apart from being a scruff. I'm sure he's very nice, though.
@@kevinsimpson6147 Surely you're not implying that because it says in Exodus that Yahweh told Moses to write something in a book, that we should take that as a fact? For a start, Exodus datets from the 5th century BC, and Moses allegedly lives in the 13th century, thereabouts. Secondly, nowhere in Exodus does the author claim to be Moses. Thirdy, the passage you mention also has Yahweh waging war against the Amalekites, having Moses hold up his arm to magically bring defeat to his enemies, and losing the battle when he puts his arm down. THis doesn't sound like history to me. Finally, Yahweh apparently wants the name of Amelek to be blotted from history, so clearly didn't do a very good job. No, sorry, it's all made up, nobody should take it any way other than to derive perhaps some mythical truths about human nature.
@@urasam2 Tony Littman all I'm saying is in Exodus 17:14 it implies the story of the defeat of the Amalekites was initially recorded by Moses. Not all of Exodus. Whether it is true or not, it is still implied. I don't see the initial recording of this story by Moses or more likely someone under the direction of Moses as particularly unbelievable. Then again I'm not an expert. Honestly, it is not high on the list of important topics for me, but I would definitely be interested to know more about it if you have strong reasons for why you disagree.
He's super introverted. I imagine it's not easy for him get out this thoughts. You can see him look up and to the right into his mental encyclopedia lol I do the same thing. I also hear that people don't like his lisp or his West Coast cadence. Starting at 17:40, this lecture explains better. th-cam.com/video/eaqKzYJ151Y/w-d-xo.html
The" Ashnei knenesset hagdola"(120 men of the great assembly) cannonized the books of the Hebrew bible "Tanakh" 250bce. The orthodox Hebrew bible used today matches the Dead sea scrolls exactly. There is only one Tanakh Torah used in history all match word for word. The Artscroll Hebrew Tanakh is the golden standard with Hebrew to english. We do not refer to the Tanakh as the "old testament". This is actually insulting to God.The church coined this derogative term to imply Hebrew bible replaced by JC s death human sacrifice etc. Origen of the church formulated the Old testament using fragments of syriac Greek and Hebrew Latin etc.Jerome later came up with Latin Vulgate. Martin Luther and Sir Issac Newton admitted church meddled with the Hebrew original scriptures. Note: the original Lxx Septuagint 72 rabbis translated from Hebrew into Greek was only the first five books "Torah" Genesis to Deut. Not the balance of the Tanakh. The church father's modified changed the Hebrew Bible in hundreds of places to support JC being messiah. There are hundreds of variant versions of Christian bibles none match each other or the source scriptures of the koine Greek NT or the Hebrew Tanakh. Watch Tenak Talk channel. Respected rabbi s explain and verify these facts. שלום
THIS IS AWESOME!!! Love Jude 3 and Love the Bible Project!
being a bible nerd could possibly be the coolest thing in the entire world. I wanna be a bible nerd too.
If you want to be a Bible nerd, let me recommend Michael Heiser and especially his Naked Bible Podcast. It's a MUST for BIBLE nerds. In fact I have a friend who is a Bible Scholar and he listens to it...
Bible nerd??? What's that term?
@@yakovmatityahu It's a humorous term Tim Mackie uses to describe himself because he is so interested in studying the bible.
@@richardcalf8337 I am reading the Bible too, i am 33% in, i will complete the Bible for the first time in my life by July 2021...
@@yakovmatityahu I pray that you read it many more times after your first reading!
Tim Mackie is a treasure 💕
Great guest. Very considerate commentaries. Wonderful interview. Thank you for this. I have subscribed to your channel.
I recently discovered this channel, and I'm excited to go through your backlog of interviews. You cover a wide range interesting topics. Thanks!
Great fellowship! I enjoyed the interview and learned more too.
Got through reading the bible with the bible project reading plan. They have little videos along the way that make it more understandable and theres always Tim's teachings as well. but I'm so glad I got the bible read because I understand it so much better. Now Bible Project has a thing called "classrooms" where you go through so many different ideas like , How to read the bible and maybe the book of Ephesians or whatever and you go online to like a classroom and theres the lesson and questions are asked and answers are explored. Not a nerd but I study what I can.
Huge fan of the Bible Project as well as my 16 yr old son.
Great topic!!!
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I love all the people of color represented in their animation.
I know Jews that actually admit that
The Jews took things from pagan ancient Greeks
You sleep Jesus took nothing
Although I do not disagree with anything said here, I have to admit I have learned nothing new! For a more scholarly discourse I would recommend Mike Licona's interview of Lee Martin McDonald
I’d have thought this fellow would have a reasonable knowledge of biblical scholarship. But is he really
claiming that Moses wrote the Pentateuch? Or at least part of it?
I realize this was over a year ago but Tim says:
"he[Moses], or later authors who worked on the Torah or Pentateuch after Moses,..."
I can see how the phrasing could be interpreted either way, but I've listened to Tim Mackie speak in more depth about the Pentateuch so I'm fairly certain he knows enough not to suggest Moses wrote it.
@@kevinsimpson6147 Thanks for your reply. Maybe not as bad as I thought, but even to suggest that Moses wrote anything is a tad gullible, to say the least. Anyway, I have always found Mackie to be really shallow, and hippy drippy, apart from being a scruff. I'm sure he's very nice, though.
@@urasam2 I see where you're coming from but what about Exodus 17:14?
@@kevinsimpson6147 Surely you're not implying that because it says in Exodus that Yahweh told Moses to write something in a book, that we should take that as a fact? For a start, Exodus datets from the 5th century BC, and Moses allegedly lives in the 13th century, thereabouts. Secondly, nowhere in Exodus does the author claim to be Moses. Thirdy, the passage you mention also has Yahweh waging war against the Amalekites, having Moses hold up his arm to magically bring defeat to his enemies, and losing the battle when he puts his arm down. THis doesn't sound like history to me. Finally, Yahweh apparently wants the name of Amelek to be blotted from history, so clearly didn't do a very good job. No, sorry, it's all made up, nobody should take it any way other than to derive perhaps some mythical truths about human nature.
@@urasam2 Tony Littman all I'm saying is in Exodus 17:14 it implies the story of the defeat of the Amalekites was initially recorded by Moses. Not all of Exodus. Whether it is true or not, it is still implied. I don't see the initial recording of this story by Moses or more likely someone under the direction of Moses as particularly unbelievable. Then again I'm not an expert. Honestly, it is not high on the list of important topics for me, but I would definitely be interested to know more about it if you have strong reasons for why you disagree.
Hes not a Good speaker. Hard to listen to
He's super introverted. I imagine it's not easy for him get out this thoughts. You can see him look up and to the right into his mental encyclopedia lol I do the same thing. I also hear that people don't like his lisp or his West Coast cadence.
Starting at 17:40, this lecture explains better. th-cam.com/video/eaqKzYJ151Y/w-d-xo.html
He is not a good speaker is grammatically correct.
The" Ashnei knenesset hagdola"(120 men of the great assembly) cannonized the books of the Hebrew bible "Tanakh" 250bce.
The orthodox Hebrew bible used today matches the Dead sea scrolls exactly. There is only one Tanakh Torah used in history all match word for word. The Artscroll Hebrew Tanakh is the golden standard with Hebrew to english.
We do not refer to the Tanakh as the "old testament". This is actually insulting to God.The church coined this derogative term to imply Hebrew bible replaced by JC s death human sacrifice etc.
Origen of the church formulated the Old testament using fragments of syriac Greek and Hebrew Latin etc.Jerome later came up with Latin Vulgate. Martin Luther and Sir Issac Newton admitted church meddled with the Hebrew original scriptures.
Note: the original Lxx Septuagint 72 rabbis translated from Hebrew into Greek was only the first five books "Torah" Genesis to Deut. Not the balance of the Tanakh. The church father's modified changed the Hebrew Bible in hundreds of places to support JC being messiah.
There are hundreds of variant versions of Christian bibles none match each other or the source scriptures of the koine Greek NT or the Hebrew Tanakh.
Watch Tenak Talk channel. Respected rabbi s explain and verify these facts. שלום
Is it ok if we call the Old Testament the Original Covenant?