Why YouTube Has No Competitors

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    If TH-cam disappeared tomorrow, where would you go? Yeah, there’s TikTok, Dailymotion, Twitch, Vimeo, and all kinds of other sites, but it’s just quite not the same, is it? Not only do they host different types of content, the culture, and communities they’ve created are just different from what we experienced with TH-cam. And it certainly is something you’ve noticed. Any other video sharing sites that have tried to compete with the platform, haven’t come close.
    But, why? How are there no competitors to TH-cam? Could you be the first to create one?
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  • @nationsquid
    @nationsquid  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

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    • @Infisrael
      @Infisrael 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1 day ago..

    • @Foam_Woa
      @Foam_Woa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was posted 2 hours ago. TH-cam needs to fix it's system if they want to keep it so they have no competition tbh...

    • @krazykaid
      @krazykaid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Foam_Woathey probably posted the comment before it went public

    • @Foam_Woa
      @Foam_Woa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@krazykaid oh, that probably would make more sense. still, yt does have lots of bugs and glitches

    • @taavi948
      @taavi948 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve given up on TH-cam. I couldn’t find you on odysse

  • @utsubasa4043
    @utsubasa4043 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +909

    It's really sad that TH-cam has no competitors. It is getting less and less creator friendly with all the false yellow marks distrubuted all around videos while the ads TH-cam themselves play out are much more deserving of yellow marks. I hope that there will be a competitor soon so that TH-cam can strive to improve and actually listen to the community.

    • @MetalchipCovers
      @MetalchipCovers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      There are competitors, kinda, like Odysee (a decentralised youtube) Rumble (a way more alt political youtube) & Peertube (an instance based youtube; viewable and usable on many mastodon and pixifed instances)

    • @Captainspark05
      @Captainspark05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I​@@MetalchipCovers

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      None of these platforms have nearly enough money to provide its creators with proper payouts. That's the problem Twitter has had for ages too. Google is a near trillion dollar company, others really aren't even touching the surface of that valuation. TH-cam also got a what 10 year head start to the others that started coming out later so yeah there's that too. @@MetalchipCovers

    • @Woodman3
      @Woodman3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Daily motion has left the chat

    • @baldman621
      @baldman621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      actually,there is one.rumble,and it barely has rules

  • @KingcoleIIV
    @KingcoleIIV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

    "advertisers" claiming to have "values" when most of them are soulless corporations is ironic.

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Whereas on television, they don't care at all,
      what content their adverts are running under,
      maybe it's even another mtv show with a lot of controversy and foul language.

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But on TH-cam, they decided to play moralist,
      it's ridiculous and ridiculous to see advertisers taking offence at an unfortunate and extremely stupid joke,
      does it make any sense that after watching another pew video I will decide not to buy a can of coca cola ?
      even though I don't drink that rubbish anyway....

    • @photontinkerer
      @photontinkerer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      By "values" they mean that they don't want to be associated with something controversial that'll damage their brand. In the end it's just about money. They panic a bit more about online content that's way more unpredictable then something sterile a movie studio would produce, and not product placement they can review beforehand.

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@photontinkerer How short sighted do you have to be to accuse them of sponsoring and endorsing anything, the advertising market doesn't work that way, but yeah I forgot, we live in the 2020s
      Ignorance and stupidity have reached the moon.

    • @1marcelfilms
      @1marcelfilms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      values also known as supporting the current thing

  • @SnowWhite-kf8qo
    @SnowWhite-kf8qo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +347

    "although copyrighted content is illegal it do not have that same level as disgust" x 2 (9:35 repeated clip)

    • @itsmefrifri_
      @itsmefrifri_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It almost sounds he's a human whaha. No biggie!

    • @just_content8741
      @just_content8741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      It's probably a take he was not happy with and rerecorded it, but forgot to cut out the original clip.

    • @anthonygotttheonly
      @anthonygotttheonly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Slurp Juice

    • @douglaspantz
      @douglaspantz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      trimming out stuff is basically the only thing you can do to edit youtube videos, it'll probably get fixed

    • @ecthree
      @ecthree 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yeah saw that too

  • @user-sb5fm1gk7l
    @user-sb5fm1gk7l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    People talk about Nebula, but it's not just subscription, but also gated creator space. You can only upload videos there if you were invited or at least had negotiating power to make them want to have you. So, not even mentioning the limited range and amount of content for users, you cannot join Nebula as a creator unless you're already successful. It is a niche business model with which YT simply can't be overtaken, by design. It exists on the base of other platforms LIKE TH-cam.

    • @photontinkerer
      @photontinkerer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It's always going to have to be gated for their business model to exist. Like so many others, the state of TH-cam gave birth them them but trying to be TH-cam would destroy them. They need to guarantee that the person they're signing up has a track record of producing videos that are compatible with the themes of their platform, and people actually want to watch. It's only possible if those creators are "vetted" by previous TH-cam uploads beforehand. TH-cam still takes on the mess of all the unpredictable new creators.

    • @chameleonhrt
      @chameleonhrt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      This. People mentioning Nebula seem like they're delusional if they think it will ever be an actual competitor.

    • @Big-Image
      @Big-Image 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Had Nebula actually been free, it would've been an actual competitor to TH-cam. Instead we got trash like TikTok.

    • @user-sb5fm1gk7l
      @user-sb5fm1gk7l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Big-Image Part of their business model is hosting stuff that would be demonetized on YT in order to attract creators and costumers. Demonetized because it's not advertiser friendly.
      And if you don't want to rely on advertisers you need another source of revenue. Hence subscription. So it's doubtful that they would be able to grow the way they do if Nebula was free.

    • @39zack
      @39zack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People tried to be cool and create their own platform when what they should have done was to join Floatplane. But instead we now have 2 platform that basically work the same

  • @elianewinter2638
    @elianewinter2638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    From my standpoint as German/western person I agree that it’s quite difficult to find a good alternative to youtube. But at least for the Asian side of the world, especially, Japanese and Chinese users, I think there certainly *are* competitors to youtube. Like niconico Douga and BiliBili

  • @MacUser2-il2cx
    @MacUser2-il2cx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    TH-cam had a bunch of really good content creators back in the day who were just regular people with no money or production value. It was fun. It was stupid. It was entertaining like goofing off with your friends. Monetizing it and making it a full time job where you are forced to pump out content even if it's fabricated drama, that's when it lost it's soul. Top that off, some older channels have been taken down by TH-cam or removed by the content creators themselves out of embarrassment. Makes it harder to archive things.

    • @DoalTheAngel
      @DoalTheAngel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Lets not forget about the stupid verified commenters who bought channels and spam their crap everywhere. It ruins the authenticity of what made the comments special

    • @bchristian85
      @bchristian85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can think of a few of my favorite channels and how they were a decade ago compared to today, and the tone of the videos completely changed when the channels went monetized, even down to the tone of the host's voice. Past that point, the videos were no longer as interesting and were centered more around fitting in the advertisement for the sponsor.

    • @MacUser2-il2cx
      @MacUser2-il2cx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bchristian85 AVGN is a good example.

    • @bchristian85
      @bchristian85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thoughty2 was the one I was thinking of, and yes, AVGN very much as well. Also, that channel "What If." @@MacUser2-il2cx

    • @JoeContext
      @JoeContext 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      TH-cam monetization feels like a double-edged sword. On the one hand, when the creators are what make the site, it makes sense at first to give them a bit of the profit for their work, but over time it all became about the money

  • @evanlee93
    @evanlee93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    social media giants rushed in to fill their niches and now nobody wants to move on. the only reason myspace became totally irrelevant was because justin timberlake turned it into a weird music site.

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That’s not all, it was also just unable to compete with Facebook

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Myspace wasn´t even popular in my country it was hi5, but you know what was in the 2010s the awnser is facebook.

    • @joelyball3798
      @joelyball3798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I loved MySpace in it's golden days 😭. I was so sad when it died and got replaced by the uniformity of Facebook.

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@joelyball3798 it’s kind of sad that in the early internet you could customize so much of your profile and now it’s all mostly the same. The whole hurdle of mobile not being able to do the same stuff as computers and thus needing different designs is not really an argument anymore since phones are a lot more powerful now. It would be nice if we would get that functionality back, but tbh it makes no sense to add aesthetic things to a multi billion dollar company.

    • @joelyball3798
      @joelyball3798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Azurethewolf168 I absolutely agree! Do you remember all the random webpages created by people about their niche hobbies and interests, complete with ridiculously busy backgrounds and nonsensical spinning graphics?! I loved that era of the internet; granted you could end up with some awful viruses if you weren't careful 😅 but I agree it's a real shame that everything has become so bland now in comparison. Google actively encourages you to have a uniform looking website to rank highly in their search for a better user experience, but it's a real shame that everything is dictated by money now... I suppose in reality it always has been.

  • @SoulfullyUnaware
    @SoulfullyUnaware 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    I've seen Nebula grow a lot in recent years due to the fact that the creators get a piece of the pie themselves. Yes, it is a subscription model, but you not only help the creators directly, but also there are a lot of more informative content that would probably get you demonetized over here. But in my mind, it is the closest competitor. No other has spread to so many creators. It's almost like a patron in a weird way.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Most use nebula like a patreon alternative and continue using youtube, is like saying floatplane is a youtube alternative, it´s not not even close.

    • @axethepenguin
      @axethepenguin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No it is not the closest competitor, TH-cam is free! That’s why it’s used

    • @Nykandros
      @Nykandros 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Nebula will never compete simply because it's paid lol. That alone puts YT in an entirely different stratosphere of growth

    • @SoulfullyUnaware
      @SoulfullyUnaware 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@weird-guy yea, I mean of course it's not close to YT. YT is quite literally a complete monopoly, so of course nothing is going to come close to Google's coffers lmao. But I was simply stating that I do see Nebula growing because of the way the platform is ran. More and more creators are seeing the positives to uploading to a site like Nebula with it supporting the creators themselves. So now, it's being adopted by more than just information based channels. Yea, it kind of is like a patreon, but you get access to everyone's content and not just one person's.

    • @chameleonhrt
      @chameleonhrt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I wondered if someone was going to say this in the comments. Sorry to say, but it will be a never be seen as a competitor as long as it's a paid service.

  • @echo_fx1
    @echo_fx1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    TH-cam does have competitors, but nobody knows about them

    • @Pyro17633
      @Pyro17633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      That means they’re not competitors, as they have no chance of (currently) overtaking TH-cam

    • @echo_fx1
      @echo_fx1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, yeah, I didn't think of that.

    • @N64FanOne
      @N64FanOne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, they are ‘smallest competitors’, like for example, Dailymotion & Vimeo, they are small

    • @JustAnotherAlchemist
      @JustAnotherAlchemist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pyro17633Self fulfilling prophecy. "Nobody uses X, so you shouldn't use X."

    • @Pyro17633
      @Pyro17633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JustAnotherAlchemist Not necessarily. But calling a site a TH-cam competitor means it has to somewhat compete with TH-cam. Most of these sites are only close because they also host video

  • @After4th
    @After4th 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Don't forget there used to be Blip. Many OG creators who do movie reviews migrated to Blip due to copyright policies despite fair use and can be immediately monetized. Multi network channels have their own websites with Blip videos embedded.

  • @north.
    @north. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    One part you forgot to add, while youtube premium, movies and etc gives google revenue, they also at the same time make money by selling your data to third party.

  • @mikubrot
    @mikubrot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    it's unfortunate that any sort of youtube that has less rules/restrictions always gets filled up with the worst kinds of people

    • @arkhererallegedlyer
      @arkhererallegedlyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see it more that people want a less restricted space, but don't like the fact it means that people with bad beliefs also get to have a less restricted space. So they abandon it instead of making it work for them. It's like staying off a life raft because a racist uses it. Instead of making sure other people get to use it, you LET racists control it.

    • @godstenrules
      @godstenrules 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      "Worst kind of people," you mean people with different political views and opinions?
      That's called free speech!

    • @hatyyy
      @hatyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@godstenrules they are filled with hate speech, not free speech

    • @StemonWasHere
      @StemonWasHere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think calling for a complete extermination of a group of people is covered in free speech ​@@godstenrules

    • @varietychan
      @varietychan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@godstenrulesno, people like Jack Doughrty or Johnny Somoli

  • @D_mn
    @D_mn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I mean, a lot of people forget about Nebula but it's paywall sadly. I just wish the world was less money oriented sometimes.

    • @JokullFrosti
      @JokullFrosti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Nebula is more in the realm of Netflix than TH-cam.

    • @WildWildWeasel
      @WildWildWeasel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Nebula isn't worth it

    • @D_mn
      @D_mn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JokullFrosti Yeah you might be right. I do remember some pretty good creators on there like Kento Bento but it's not really the same because of that accesability. Never tried it myself to say, though.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Nebula is patreon with extra steps.

    • @CaptainJack2048
      @CaptainJack2048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, but it would have to be the *whole* world, unfortunately. If you add up all of the people that are involved, from the content creators to the people who make the computers to the people who run the power plants to the people who dig the trenches to run the wires to the people who dig the ore that makes the metals and semiconductors, the economics would have to not just be less money-oriented, but completely different. I'm all in favor, I've never seen an economic model I really liked, but I don't really know where to start a change of that scale either.

  • @MicrophonicFool
    @MicrophonicFool 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Only another of the top 5 tech companies could possibly afford to build it. The amount of STORAGE alone far exceeds the connectivity side of things. Storage and the increase thereof is much more labour intensive and while some media storage costs have decreased over time, MANAGEABLE storage and the redundancy needed to avoid disaster is one of the most expensive things a data center needs. Power/cooling is another of the large expenditures. Bandwidth for Google is nearly free in comparison. Source: Managed corporate Data Centers for a living.

  • @TheElusiveReality
    @TheElusiveReality 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    if youtube disappeared tomorrow my life would be upside down, i dont even watch tv anymore i almost exclusively watch youtube videos. in the Worst of my depression i could watch over 8 hrs of youtube in a day lmao just sitting there smoking weed and trying to keep my mind busy with videos

    • @caifabe8050
      @caifabe8050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      AYO SAME

    • @CandyGirl44
      @CandyGirl44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      TH-cam has literally saved my sanity, if not my life.
      We have daily rolling blackouts, and being able to watch downloaded videos in the dark, either with mosquitoes attacking as soon as the fan dies, or freezing in winter, makes a huge difference, it takes your mind off your corrupt government and the creeping poverty and unemployment, along with the hopeless feeling that you can do nothing about it.
      And when I went through a bad patch, I could distract myself on TH-cam, or watch videos with people experiencing the same thing.
      My condition leaves me with chronic insomnia, and it helps there too, soothing voices especially of disaster and crime channels, that play through the night, my husband falls asleep the moment his head hits the pillow, no matter the time, and if you can't sleep his snoring creates murderous thoughts so the distraction is welcome...

  • @test-rj2vl
    @test-rj2vl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dailymotion could very easily add just safe search setting that by default is switched to safe. That would solve the problem you mentioned at 9:19.

  • @plagueofangel8694
    @plagueofangel8694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I mean the biggest reason, like you said, is cost. YT only just became barely profitable as is and its only getting more expensive to run. Video hosting is such a ruinously expensive business model that any competitor would quickly be on the verge of bankruptcy

  • @JustTaaco
    @JustTaaco 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I'm just going off the title, but youtube does have competitors, they just arent centralized! Peertube and odysee are examples. I dont know much about Odysee just know it exists, but i know most Peertube instances focus on education, while quite a few others focus more on entertainment. I do actually hope some youtubers will swap to these alternative, but its unlikely and unrealistic. These platforms dont pay, and are normally ran on donations, so a career on them just isnt viable.
    Edit: Thanks for the replies, and i kinda made some mistakes...
    First- No, peertube is NOT an alternative for youtube (I'm just not big brain in the slightest, it litterally says this in the FAQ)
    Second-from what i can see, odysee is kinda like the Twitter of video platforms, it's not a great experience :/

    • @ptanker9236
      @ptanker9236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It’s obvious why TH-cam has “no competitors” sure there’s Odysee and such, but it’s impossible to move to those sites permanently because of how unpopularized they are.
      Odysee and Peertube aren’t true competitors, they’re still in beta and showcase what it would be like for an alternate video streaming site, but it feels more like a tour site that you’d temporarily browse through.

    • @JokullFrosti
      @JokullFrosti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They aren't really competitors because nobody uses them. That's like saying some middle schooler running a 5k is a competitor to an Olympic marathon runner.

    • @Writer_Productions_Map
      @Writer_Productions_Map 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      PeerTube isn't a TH-cam alternative, and Odysee is a politicized hole

    • @HK47_115
      @HK47_115 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a difference between an alternative and a competitor my guy. Those are alternatives, but they're not competitors. Because they don't bring real competition to youtube. They don't have TH-cam running for their money. Unfortunately only tik Tok does. Which means they're the only true competitor. There are many alternatives, but only one true competitor.

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    You are the only person I ever hear discussing the pros and cons of TH-cam from an objective business perspective. I hear plenty of people airing their grievances, many of which are valid, but they won't even humor the notion that, whether they like it or not, TH-cam kind of does need regular income to just exist, so it's either humor that notion or not have TH-cam any more (as a wise convenience store clerk once said, "Shit or get off the pot").
    I can also feel only so bad for people who's entire livelihood depends on TH-cam. Most of the time, that was their decision. Relying on a system that has been largely automated for longer than it hasn't doesn't seem like a wise career choice. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
    I'm sure a lot of people don't want to hear what you're saying, and yeah, it can feel a little dismissive at times, but if they really cared about TH-cam improving and are willing to be more proactive beyond making an angry video saying how angry they are, they'd be wise to humor the notion that yes, money IS important in this case.

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Agreed, people have to realize that this platform is just trying to take money and has to do things like this to keep itself alive. TH-cam seemed like a great idea at first, but now people realize how bad the system is.

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Azurethewolf168 Again, if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

    • @dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970
      @dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There is a huge, huge difference between justifying standard business practices and justifying harassment.
      What's the benefit of airing unskippable NSFW 10 minute-long ads on videos supposedly "made for children"? One 30 second ad, I can understand. 2 ads, a bit exaggerated but yeah, the site needs to make money. But NSFW ads? Dude, don't be the corporate prostitute, it's a hill not worth dying on.

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970 I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. What do NSFW ads for kids have to do with this?

    • @usmanhassan3824
      @usmanhassan3824 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gabe_s_videos bcz if advertisers dont want their ads on dirty content then why do they oblige to having their ads a,ongst nsfw ads

  • @Imissthefuhrer
    @Imissthefuhrer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    TH-cam is becoming more and more like tv. Advertisers are going to ruin it.

    • @TankBenson
      @TankBenson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Too late...

  • @intraterrestrial5035
    @intraterrestrial5035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    I refuse to get into tiktok 😂

    • @Woodman3
      @Woodman3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I have used tiktok before a few years ago and it was so addictive I had to stop. (Glad I did)

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I refuse to get into any social media but TH-cam, which has actual informational content on it

    • @Micah_YT
      @Micah_YT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Woodman3Good job! I am proud of you

    • @ericcarabetta1161
      @ericcarabetta1161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I despise vertical video so much.

    • @damlatorun6756
      @damlatorun6756 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Finally someone with a brain

  • @ThatGreenSpy
    @ThatGreenSpy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What about Odysee? They can host more than just videos.

  • @GraciousGoldy
    @GraciousGoldy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wish we can have a version of TH-cam, where you can upload anyway and with out people temporarily blocking, copyright infringement.

    • @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT
      @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      copywrong wont allow that, the big corps want to control what you can consume

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Aside from the competition being smaller than TH-cam in terms of funding and its user base, TH-cam also has the advantage of having an early start in comparison to the other sites.
    TH-cam has been around for nearly 20 years and has become integrated with the online world because of it.
    Even if these other sites had the same funding that youtube had, they still wouldn't pull in big numbers due to TH-cam being THE platforming site to post videos on that so many people are familiar with worldwide.

  • @WeedSmokingBrony
    @WeedSmokingBrony 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    TH-cam has fallen

    • @Random_Idiot69420
      @Random_Idiot69420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Blame TikTok

    • @WildWildWeasel
      @WildWildWeasel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's been dead since Susan's tenure

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In quality of content i agree,but in terms of popularity i don´t.

    • @Hu_c2680
      @Hu_c2680 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Billions must brodcast themselves

  • @jacobnicola5950
    @jacobnicola5950 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great video explaining this "snowball effect" of TH-cam's growth, and the main cause of its growth was literally its competitors "business models" to not say "incompetence".
    The thing is: no other homemade video platform has HALF of TH-cam's features, creators would move long ago if wasn't for the justifiable fear of losing their audience, thus limiting revenue/sponsorships due to those being primarily centered around TH-cam, and the other platforms don't try to be better than TH-cam, they just try to copy TH-cam or paywall basic functions that TH-cam provides for free, also their lenience towards types of content perhaps are even harsher than TH-cam's despite some even allowing explicit content, offering almost no advantages whatsoever to the content creator or viewers over TH-cam.
    There's also the political side of things, which TH-cam is very lenient about because i've seen videos from all spectrums, but i heard speculation of some platforms only allowing political takes from certain spectrums, since it's just a speculation, i can't confirm or deny it.

  • @MythenAkte
    @MythenAkte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a german speaking channel, I still got many videos false flagged, even after their one second "human review" it still get the yellow icon.
    This just makes it really hard to do TH-cam as a fulltime Job

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I do find it weird TH-cam hasn’t implemented any way to limit the amount of uploads being done. People basically using TH-cam as free video backup where those could be pushed to Google Drive.
    Like unmonitized channels have limit of 10 private/hidden video uploads.

  • @Nur0f3n
    @Nur0f3n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    As long as they don't mess up it'll remain that way

    • @KodiakDT
      @KodiakDT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      If they keep going on like this they will mess up.

    • @themacity
      @themacity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't see how they could mess it up that badly at this point. They've done pretty much everything wrong I can think of, other than totally monetising the platform which they won't do. They've monetised more and more, become more restrictive, show blatant scams as advertisements, and here we still are

    • @KodiakDT
      @KodiakDT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@themacity solid point

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're already screwed,
      the last few years of this site have looked like a death agony,
      and the new efficient manager has been able to do what Susie couldn't, they hate anyone with less than a million subs,
      I think in the near future they will ban the last monetisation method for these channels, which is donations,
      and maybe even native advertising.

  • @SerpentineDeity
    @SerpentineDeity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That repeated copyright clip. Now I can't unsee those cuts. Its okay to stutter now and then, squiddo.

  • @soniablanche5672
    @soniablanche5672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    fun fact, google video had 18+ videos... that's where I used to.. hmm.. :^)

  • @foxracing8973
    @foxracing8973 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    One of my biggest complaints about TH-cam happens all the time on channels I follow who cover things like true crime stories. Rape, suicide, murder, pedophiles, ect are all words (and the list continues to grow all the time) that they will no longer say in their videos for fear of getting demonetized. TH-cam states in their rules that it's ok for creators to talk about those subjects as long as it's done in an informative way and not promoting/encouraging those things. That's not the case however bc time and time again creators were getting demonetized for simply saying those words.
    As far as the argument some ppl have about "well thats ok bc what if young kids watch it or ppl who have triggers related to those topics"...here is my opinion: If it's a child, the parent should be monitoring what the child is watching in the first place, not to mention there is TH-cam Kids for that very reason. As far as ppl getting triggered by those subjects, I'm sorry but you shouldn't be watching videos on true crimes anyway if those topics bother you. Those videos cover nothing but those topics...

    • @UncleKennybobs
      @UncleKennybobs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You just described what a snowflake is

    • @neatoburrito3170
      @neatoburrito3170 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You shouldn't be watching them period. It's exploitative and obviously grossly disrespectful and self-serving no matter how many pretzels people twist themselves into to justify it.

    • @foxracing8973
      @foxracing8973 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@neatoburrito3170 Yes bc let's not have ppl report on those kinds of stories. If we didn't, the public wouldn't know about the horrible things evil ppl have done in their area. Since our justice system is a joke, so many evil ppl get out to victimize even more ppl bc they only get a slap on the wrist. So how would we know to watch out for those ppl if we don't hear about a case in our area?
      There is a guy who kidnapped, raped, tortured and held captive a young teenage girl for YEARS near my area. He was let out of prison after only serving a couple of years. Now the bastard has tall fences with barbwire around his house bc so many ppl have tried to deal him the punishment he deserves. We wouldn't have ever known about this if it wasn't for the crime being publicly talked about on a video. At least the ppl now in my area know about him and to keep their kids far away from him.

    • @Emirthemarvelfanboi
      @Emirthemarvelfanboi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@neatoburrito3170 our first liberal troll I see lmao

  • @andywatkins3122
    @andywatkins3122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don’t think Vimeo has been a competitor for at least a decade

  • @Alantonium
    @Alantonium 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Literally a monopoly

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In its worst form

  • @SpiritmanProductions
    @SpiritmanProductions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If bandwidth were the only hurdle, the future might see a site that uses AI to deconstruct video into a much smaller script-like file from which the player can then reconstruct the video. As loose analogies, think of vector graphics and MIDI files. I'm convinced we'll see this technology at some point, and it will greatly reduce storage and bandwidth. And a useful side-effect will be that resolution becomes irrelevant; you'll be able to reproduce it at any scale. 🎦

  • @TheSizzleDash
    @TheSizzleDash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for bringing up the issue of struggling creators, I struggle to make a living 24/7 on TH-cam.
    Seriously though, I love your videos.

  • @lukerobinson4152
    @lukerobinson4152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dailymotion does NOT allow adult content, after watching this video i uploaded some and they banned me and denied my ban appeal, now i will have to make a new dailymotion account

  • @kond1
    @kond1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Rumble is growing but it still has a long way to go get close to TH-cam. I hope it continues to grow and provides an alternative for those that may not like TH-cam.
    Odyssey just doesn't look like it's gaining much traction though I think their interface is considerably better than Rumble.

  • @ProximaMakima
    @ProximaMakima 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    If there was a TH-cam alternative, new content creators would jump ship immediately to have a shot at getting their audience. It's a struggle now but I don't see an alternative anytime soon or at all.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rumble, Odysee, Bitchute, and now X are all viable alternatives if people get behind them, and use them.

    • @zander_the_space_nerd
      @zander_the_space_nerd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CommodoreFan64 I prefer Odysee, the UI is close to YT and the ads are not as annoying, there is a lot of anti Israel, pro hamas content on there but I just try to ignore it

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zander_the_space_nerd I hear ya, the only things Odysee needs to get fixed is their Android app, and mobile website versions being sluggish AF, along with creator payouts being a mess, as I know someone who makes Linux videos, and dealing with Odysee, and Rumble for that matter have both been a mess for getting the money they are owed. I've not heard anyone having issues with Bitchute however.

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zander_the_space_nerdthese people aren’t supporting those terr-rists, they’re fighting for the civilians being tortured, k-lled and have war crimes done on them every single day. Can’t believe you’re this brainwashed to support an apartheid regime.

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:28 Why did he repeat that part twice? Extra emphasis?

  • @MutleeIsTheAntiGod
    @MutleeIsTheAntiGod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tiktok is allowing more long form (9 minute) videos. They already have AMVs on thete, it is only a matter of time.

    • @39zack
      @39zack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only stupid people choose to feed the ccp machine.

  • @PexotronV2
    @PexotronV2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I could I would make the nickelodeon version of Facebook "Splashface"

  • @bcbdjane
    @bcbdjane 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this might have nothing to do with the video but i think youtube should add the "featured videos" tab again

  • @RandomGeometryDashStuff
    @RandomGeometryDashStuff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    09:30 Why do subltitles say "Although copyrighted content is illegal, it does not have that same level of public disgust." once but human in video says it twice?

    • @aceae4210
      @aceae4210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      assuming he used the tool in TH-cam where you can put your script in and it will time the captions automaticly, then it would just skip the second clip of the same thing (as in only in the script once)

  • @LuziFearon
    @LuziFearon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm actually very satisfied with Nebula and I try to switch every content creator I can from YT to NEB to boost the views there

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I cant unsee your avatar as a duck's head.

    • @wasmadeinthe80s
      @wasmadeinthe80s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now I can’t unsee it!

  • @munchimoo
    @munchimoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:30 mans made an editing mistake here. i love seeing these in youtube videos ngl

  • @human.earthling
    @human.earthling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think there’s a potential solution to make a TH-cam competitor though smart contracts on Ethereum.

  • @ROARDABAND
    @ROARDABAND 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i feel like u literally read my mind because i was just thinking about this a few hours ago..

  • @lenowoo
    @lenowoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bilibili is quite big in asia..but it is pretty much a worse TH-cam
    And niconico is simply too niche from the language barrier

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video NationSquid and TH-cam really needs to change so things can be better for everybody who use their platfrom :]

  • @yousefslimani99
    @yousefslimani99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it just me or this part has been repeated twice?! 9:29

  • @borekminer
    @borekminer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "if youtube dissapeared tommorow,where would i go?WHERE WOULD YOU GO?"
    i thought you were gonna plug a nebula add there

  • @ricomambozero3811
    @ricomambozero3811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i want Rumble and Dailymotion be as big as TH-cam

  • @JoeContext
    @JoeContext 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like another part most people don't seem to mention is TH-cam's creators and their followings. I feel like at least getting people with decent follower bases to cross-post videos to a hypothetical TH-cam alternative would be key.
    To be honest, while I don't think it'll happen anytime soon I feel like it's inevitable that one day TH-cam will go the way of Facebook or Skype. Obviously making TH-cam's equivalent of Discord will not be easy, but the demand has been growing for at the very least a decade, so maybe someday the right chain of events will lead to it happening

  • @mountaindewkid
    @mountaindewkid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, they kind of do. If you think about it, they have put something on their app called TH-cam Shorts. Therefore, there would be beef spawning in between TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Snapchat. (For those who don’t know, they all have short-form videos)

  • @akuma2124
    @akuma2124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe AV1 video encoding is meant to save bit rate but maintain high quality? in an instance of something like that coming about, and as technology like this continues to grow, the feasibility of someone else coming to market to be an actual competitor is an increasing. The additional part keeping youtube successful is also the long library of content, considering they've been the default for so long... it will definitely make it harder for an emerging company but it just needs that encouragement for people to upload.
    Also, considering the limbo state of tiktok at the moment, its probably a long shot for them if they did expand, and even if they did, im sure it will be met with various concerns such as cooperate and government/schools not allowing access due to the on-going issues with data security that keeps being claimed as a possible threat.

  • @dogcowrph
    @dogcowrph 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is Rumble (which doesn’t have the selection or speed) but that’s about it.

  • @babyyPatrickk
    @babyyPatrickk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love your videos!! Keep it up

  • @jopansmark
    @jopansmark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's just how the internet works, if your social media is the same as another platform, it will fail no matter what.

  • @pimpingkek4947
    @pimpingkek4947 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i remember google video. i watched saddam hussein get hung as a teen. wild days. basically large portions of the internet are memory holed. you had to be there, and you had to also be looking.

  • @davinp
    @davinp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Some people don't like that TH-cam has put too many ads into videos. I understand they need to pay for their operations, but too many ads interrupting peoples videos

    • @LetrixAR
      @LetrixAR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only there was a way to don't have ads...

  • @Robin_Glorb
    @Robin_Glorb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:29 why did you say that twice? Was that intentional?

  • @hullstar242
    @hullstar242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although copyrighted content is illegal, it doesn’t have that same level of disgust.

  • @bigboiproductions
    @bigboiproductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    its a good and bad thing while youtube provides a good service for the consumer but absolutly horrible creator support

  • @connor_1x1x1x1
    @connor_1x1x1x1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah. TH-cam needs advertisers... but advertisers need TH-cam too, specially in 2017 when the PewDiePie thing happened. Advertisers might have left, but they would have returned anyways because they NEED TH-cam. The management just became horrible around 2017-2018 and the appearance of Tik Tok sank TH-cam and now, it's not AS popular as it was in the mid 2010s.

  • @jitx2797
    @jitx2797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First is the compute problem....Huge amount of CPU for video conversion, bitrate and HLS streaming

  • @ambostralian
    @ambostralian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question does a TH-camr of your size make more money from patreon or from the TH-cam partner program?

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:45 probably twitch but i'd find it really annoying to have to now actually learn streamers schedules to watch them live, and miss the random videos on my home feed.

  • @_GhostMiner
    @_GhostMiner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *8:17** Ah, the good old days*

  • @nikolaievans2432
    @nikolaievans2432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video hosting sites like youtube are expensive to maintain. TH-cam allows you to do that for free. This is why smosh turned to youtube and why youtube has no competition

  • @mjcgreatness
    @mjcgreatness 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rumble is the competitor

  • @Yangorango
    @Yangorango 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:53 I'm a traumatised F1 fan and this triggered my PTSD for a split second.

  • @lillysparrow
    @lillysparrow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dailymotion doesn't allow adult content anymore as of this year (or recent years, i couldn't really find confirmation dating that far back)

  • @Alex1891
    @Alex1891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We really should be regularly discussing alternatives to TH-cam.
    VidLii anyone?

  • @lightascend2524
    @lightascend2524 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:52 PeerTube exists. However, it doesn't have a business model.

  • @MisterPenguin42
    @MisterPenguin42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:29 & 9:35
    glitch in the Matrix

  • @allennoble452
    @allennoble452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, Jawed Karim! you're AWESOME!!!!

  • @callieprotector
    @callieprotector 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had finally caved on pay the TH-cam Premium because I got tired of shitty ads. Also did pay the Twitch version because same reason here.

  • @MrPuzzlesUnofficial
    @MrPuzzlesUnofficial 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    no one nothing: newgrounds: aye im something here too!

  • @alexmipego
    @alexmipego 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't create a youtube competitor because… I don't have the money. Monetization is super hard with this model/content-type.

  • @timhooglandyt
    @timhooglandyt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Rumble is a competitor and growing rapidly. There's also Odysee.

    • @JPS13Laptop
      @JPS13Laptop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only if you're only looking for specific types of content. Mostly what TH-cam doesn't allow on the platform.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If you like political rumblings and are from the usa or interested in usa politics,sure.

    • @PokemonPlatinum1201
      @PokemonPlatinum1201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and both websites have a neo-nazi problem

    • @Gamerappa
      @Gamerappa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      rumble is only really appealing to american right-wingers.

    • @anidson2045
      @anidson2045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gamerappa no it just generally appeals to people who seek no censorship

  • @PenguTT44-ej1wz
    @PenguTT44-ej1wz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In a different world Yahoo bought youtube.

  • @ninjaboss6612
    @ninjaboss6612 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:18 end of him Yapping about the ad

  • @Beanzops
    @Beanzops 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:35 another editing error 💀

    • @Beanzops
      @Beanzops 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ?

  • @36inc
    @36inc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is where im posed with a qaundry- we say compitition is good for the economy and the consumer alot in economic discussion-however id say somethings outright demand to be monopolies by both of those forces- parallel it with streaming -it was demonstrably better when basically one company was doing it- but with all of these competitors its made both the products themselves and the end users experience with them worse. this kinda break the rule we set above dont it? in these cases- it seems monopolism actually is the play- the same effect happens in games- steam is the best one but i might shy away from an ea release even if its on steam just cause it requires origin take space on my pc. to be a redundant launcher. and so many companies I avoid for this same problem. i also dont got nebula or any history with youtube competitors- i pretty much only liked youtube since 2007 when i was a teenager watching on the young website. and thats just cause id rather not have to manage that many sites and bounce around all the time. id rather it be easier on me and the creators. maybe in these cases- we should have a monitored ecosystem- one allowed to have a defacto monopoly but is maintained and balanced by a strong labor union and government assistance. id rather it be that very voice of everyone that it states to be. but the profit motive rn is still shakey. id like some reassurance they wont pull the rug on the only youtube in town cause they eventually realize the cost will scale with them.

  • @ExploringNew1
    @ExploringNew1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:30 OK OK I get it

  • @GManCool
    @GManCool 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In russia we have vk video and rutube, which are technically the biggest TH-cam competitors here, also keep in mind Chine, where as far as i am aware, there is no youtube, so they may have the biggest competitor here (also that mandarine is the most spoken language in the world (i think??)).

  • @incompetech_kmac
    @incompetech_kmac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice music!

    • @kasonbear_
      @kasonbear_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ayy it’s Kevin MacLeod :D

    • @nationsquid
      @nationsquid  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And thank YOU for your contributions!! 💙

    • @incompetech_kmac
      @incompetech_kmac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank YOU for the content@@nationsquid

  • @Pnezyx2056
    @Pnezyx2056 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this really was the right video for me, my channel just got a strike for community guidelines stupidness that didnt make any sense lol

  • @OJGamingYT
    @OJGamingYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yea Squarespace won't be how anyone makes the next YT, thx though. Seriously I myself have had thoughts about trying to make a website like this (I've gotten pretty close), but the issue is if a YT 2.0 came around it shouldn't just be a copy paste replacement, and again I got close to making it, but there's still tons of stuff on the business side that you can't just replicate. You'd have to have a marketing plan, connections, etc.

  • @olokelo
    @olokelo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If TH-cam disappeared tomorrow I would go to my own peertube instance I already host today. 😌

  • @melasn9836
    @melasn9836 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRB, this made me wanna pour one out for Blip again...

  • @madhukarg8052
    @madhukarg8052 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a merged Vimeo + Dailymotion would be a perfect competitor for TH-cam

  • @LegoWormNoah101
    @LegoWormNoah101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    9:29 2 scenes of the same script line? That's peak 2010s amateur TH-camr 😂

  • @jhx3media
    @jhx3media 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate that TH-cam Vanced is no longer functional. I rather use it than the native TH-cam app.

  • @bas3q
    @bas3q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Odysee seems to be the closest in style to TH-cam, particularly the old pre-Google YT. If someone with deep pockets were to buy into it and get the word out, I think it would stand a serious chance of giving TH-cam a run for their money. Already some YT content creators are backing up their video content on there, getting more YT creators on the platform could give it the critical mass it needs to succeed.

  • @JosephLover_
    @JosephLover_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only way to be a competitor to TH-cam is to learn other mistakes what TH-cam did or why other competitors fail.

  • @DigitalLobstershow
    @DigitalLobstershow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if youtube quits tomorrow, microsoft build a platform in a week.