as a UNLV fan.....since the PAC poached those 4 schools.....instead of going to commit to another non power 4 conf.....I'd rather set our sights on the BIG 12 and do whatever is necessary to get UNLV attractive to the BIG 12. we have the facilities...we've proven to be able to compete..(see 2 victories over HOUSTON and KANSAS)...the las vegas market is good.....the heck with the PAC....concentrate on the BIG 12
Sorry bud, ain't happening. We're oversaturated in your tv market already having the 4-Corner schools + BYU. It wouldn't add any value to our conference. You bring no natural rivalries, no legacy, and not enough eyeballs on tv screens. It will be schools that have geographical rivalries and histories like Pitt and Louisville. That would give us WV, CINCY, PITT, and Louisville. After that a Clemson/FSU would be nice but more likely Miami and NCSU. Big brands, regional powers, and regional rivalries having UCF.
The Mountain West didn't get arrogant. Oregon State and Washington State wanted the majority of the revenue and the Mountain West didn't feel comfortable with that. I think they basically told them to their face that they know they're a rental. If that's true, that would definitely piss them off.
@@thatcollegefootballguyNo. The pac 12 said no we are not letting you take over. And we are not paying you more money 💵. But if you had follow the talks you would know this. That's why they could only work out one year and over paid for that year. And the 4 teams wanted out of mwc. For a long time. All them ask to join the pac 12 before. 😢
@@James-og9yf And now there is talk that they may end up doing the full merger anyway. I'm wondering if what some of the Eastern schools wanted was more than what the Pac-12 would allow.
@@thatcollegefootballguy I would be shocked with a full merger, only need 9 to vote for dissolution, maybe they tried and could not get that...bet they can now.
PAC needs to only add 'State' programs going forward. That's a great way to rebrand, and it just looks nice. Texas State needs to be a priority. They're on the up and up and the Austin area is a great recruiting footprint.
@@U.S.Male1 I'd love that, maybe complete the region with Arkansas State and New Mexico State. Honestly I'd really like to see NDSU and SDSU move up, and think the PAC State would be the perfect segway.
Add UNLV, Texas St, Air Force, Utah State, North Dakota St, Wyoming I think that would be a pretty fun conference for the die hards. I would watch those P12 after dark games for sure.
St. Louis University (Private) could join the Pac-12 from the Atlantic -10. Start a football program with the defunct Rams training facility & use the Dome or MLS stadium for game day (both walking distance from campus). Columbia, MO is the nearest FBS program to the St. Louis Media Market. The college president who blocked starting a football program during the Conf. USA period has passed away. Central time zone, no grant of rights issues, low exit fee, & suspend various men's athletics to comply with Title IX. Arizona Cardinals owner is Michael Bidwill is an alumni of SLU.
If I were the pac12, I would become a national conference that focuses on athletics and not academics. I would also add NDSU, Memphis, Tulane, Uconn, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's
@Mike-sp7zv I agree with you that the pac12 needs to go for quantity over quality. I'm worried about being to focused on the west coast because that's what ruined them the last time.
@@darealmvp2437 worried about academics and refusing to expand was a bigger issue than focusing on the west coast. Every other major conference has a geographical center. Once they establish that, they can try to grab a couple farther teams like an SMU, Memphis, and uconn as the acc falls apart
The ACC would gladly release CAL, STANFORD and/or SMU if requested with an amicable settlement. The new PAC should use its new base 6 to get those three and some 4Cs Unless there's a heavy ACC depletion to the SEC and B1G, no ACC member outside of FSU will likely move to the BIG12.
This always been the ideal route sans joining the Big XII. Monopolize the G5 until the divide between the other conferences and the PAC is so wide that they're essentially a P5 conference. UNLV, Tulane, Memphis and UTSA are your first three targets. After that, Texas St, South Florida, Wyoming and Air Force. Could even call it thr "Pacific - Atlantic" conference if they end up expanding far while still keeping the PAC name.
@@tarheel7406 You're missing the point. If you cannibalize the others G5s and consolidate the best schools into one conference, your "essentially" creating the fifth power conference, even if its not "technically" a power conference.
@@tarheel7406the ACC would gladly release Cal, Stanford, and SMU with a buyout??? You’re the same guy that said that the ACC agreed to these 3 schools because of branding, academia and like minded universities that naturally fit in the ACC… So now the ACC would gladly get rid of these 3??? Which is it sir??? Do these 3 schools help the ACC or not??
With the PAC now an option, FSU and Clemson could gain some support from the other ACC members to dissolve the conference and gain their exit. Cal, Stanford, and SMU back to the PAC12 West, and the remaining ACC members making the PAC12 East with other members being added as needed.
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as a UNLV fan.....since the PAC poached those 4 schools.....instead of going to commit to another non power 4 conf.....I'd rather set our sights on the BIG 12 and do whatever is necessary to get UNLV attractive to the BIG 12. we have the facilities...we've proven to be able to compete..(see 2 victories over HOUSTON and KANSAS)...the las vegas market is good.....the heck with the PAC....concentrate on the BIG 12
Sorry bud, ain't happening. We're oversaturated in your tv market already having the 4-Corner schools + BYU. It wouldn't add any value to our conference. You bring no natural rivalries, no legacy, and not enough eyeballs on tv screens. It will be schools that have geographical rivalries and histories like Pitt and Louisville. That would give us WV, CINCY, PITT, and Louisville. After that a Clemson/FSU would be nice but more likely Miami and NCSU. Big brands, regional powers, and regional rivalries having UCF.
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If I was the Pac 12, I would add UNLV, St. Mary's, Gonzaga, Texas State, North Texas and UTSA.
Rice to , North Texas and Rice would probably look into the Pac 12 , especially if UTSA and Texas State are considered to.
The Mountain West got arrogant and found out.
The Mountain West didn't get arrogant. Oregon State and Washington State wanted the majority of the revenue and the Mountain West didn't feel comfortable with that. I think they basically told them to their face that they know they're a rental. If that's true, that would definitely piss them off.
@@thatcollegefootballguyNo. The pac 12 said no we are not letting you take over. And we are not paying you more money 💵. But if you had follow the talks you would know this. That's why they could only work out one year and over paid for that year.
And the 4 teams wanted out of mwc. For a long time. All them ask to join the pac 12 before. 😢
@@James-og9yf And now there is talk that they may end up doing the full merger anyway. I'm wondering if what some of the Eastern schools wanted was more than what the Pac-12 would allow.
@@James-og9yf Or is it a play to make Cal & Stanford happy?
@@thatcollegefootballguy I would be shocked with a full merger, only need 9 to vote for dissolution, maybe they tried and could not get that...bet they can now.
Trading down from Power 5 to Group of 5 is not the greatest.
PAC needs to only add 'State' programs going forward. That's a great way to rebrand, and it just looks nice.
Texas State needs to be a priority. They're on the up and up and the Austin area is a great recruiting footprint.
I'd say they should add San Jose State and Utah State. Texas State needs to make their way into the AAC.
@@U.S.Male1 I'd love that, maybe complete the region with Arkansas State and New Mexico State.
Honestly I'd really like to see NDSU and SDSU move up, and think the PAC State would be the perfect segway.
Add UNLV, Texas St, Air Force, Utah State, North Dakota St, Wyoming
I think that would be a pretty fun conference for the die hards. I would watch those P12 after dark games for sure.
St. Louis University (Private) could join the Pac-12 from the Atlantic -10. Start a football program with the defunct Rams training facility & use the Dome or MLS stadium for game day (both walking distance from campus). Columbia, MO is the nearest FBS program to the St. Louis Media Market. The college president who blocked starting a football program during the Conf. USA period has passed away. Central time zone, no grant of rights issues, low exit fee, & suspend various men's athletics to comply with Title IX. Arizona Cardinals owner is Michael Bidwill is an alumni of SLU.
If I were the pac12, I would become a national conference that focuses on athletics and not academics. I would also add NDSU, Memphis, Tulane, Uconn, Gonzaga, and St. Mary's
I'd add Gonzaga, Hawaii, Boise State, Wyoming, fresno state, Army, Navy, and Air force,
@Mike-sp7zv I agree with you that the pac12 needs to go for quantity over quality. I'm worried about being to focused on the west coast because that's what ruined them the last time.
@@darealmvp2437 worried about academics and refusing to expand was a bigger issue than focusing on the west coast. Every other major conference has a geographical center. Once they establish that, they can try to grab a couple farther teams like an SMU, Memphis, and uconn as the acc falls apart
Most likely they get 2 Texas schools, and they are done for a while.
The ACC won't die.
The ACC would gladly release CAL, STANFORD and/or SMU if requested with an amicable settlement. The new PAC should use its new base 6 to get those three and some 4Cs
Unless there's a heavy ACC depletion to the SEC and B1G, no ACC member outside of FSU will likely move to the BIG12.
This always been the ideal route sans joining the Big XII.
Monopolize the G5 until the divide between the other conferences and the PAC is so wide that they're essentially a P5 conference.
UNLV, Tulane, Memphis and UTSA are your first three targets. After that, Texas St, South Florida, Wyoming and Air Force.
Could even call it thr "Pacific - Atlantic" conference if they end up expanding far while still keeping the PAC name.
@@scooberz2015 Unless the new PAC can recover enough of the 4Cs, CAL, STANFORD, etc., it will be a new G5 (now Tier 3).
@@tarheel7406 You're missing the point.
If you cannibalize the others G5s and consolidate the best schools into one conference, your "essentially" creating the fifth power conference, even if its not "technically" a power conference.
@@scooberz2015 Consolidating the best of the G5 does not create a new P5.
@@tarheel7406the ACC would gladly release Cal, Stanford, and SMU with a buyout??? You’re the same guy that said that the ACC agreed to these 3 schools because of branding, academia and like minded universities that naturally fit in the ACC… So now the ACC would gladly get rid of these 3??? Which is it sir??? Do these 3 schools help the ACC or not??
With the PAC now an option, FSU and Clemson could gain some support from the other ACC members to dissolve the conference and gain their exit. Cal, Stanford, and SMU back to the PAC12 West, and the remaining ACC members making the PAC12 East with other members being added as needed.