Jim stoppani, i am on my 5th year of lifting. i started 4 years ago on November 17th on your starting strength program. i am 72kgs from 50kgs, i am much stronger than other people at my body weight in most comercial and university gyms, something i noticed after doing your 3 month starting strength, newbie gainz yes, but it was an amazing 3 staged program and now, while looking for info on gainz, i coincidentaly find you again here. ou are hilarius in the video idk why XD but the information is quality and i agree that 1g/pound is the bare minimum. I am tracking my macros and calories on a lean bulk and i am taking 1.4-1.5g of protien easily (only 1 shake used a day) on training days (6 days a week) and have experienced strength gainz and muscle gainz. maybe not leaness as i am in a HIGH surplus. Thank you again mr stoppani
This makes me feel better about lifting weight to get lean and im on high protien. This is what i need to hear right now. Lets go jim your the man respect
Jim you mentioned the fact they were beginners. That's what accounts for the simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain while in a caloric deficit. This would work, in my opinion, on a more experienced lifter or athlete.
+Jim Stoppani yes I have. I am a member of Jimstoppani.com. I was asking if you think simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain would occur in a more experienced lifter?
+rohailab Yes, although maybe not to the same extent. Obviously the numbers come faster to newbies, but advanced athletes can still achieve simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain.
After watching I am in full of agreement as usual. Let's face it, Jim knows what he's talking about. I have been training for 6 months now, went from 207lbs with a 38" waist .....today I'm 178lbs wearing 34" ( loosely I might add) still lifting respectable weight. All I've ever done is watch his videos and buy show product. Why? It's best tasting, best customer support, and the products just work. I'm not in the JYM ARMY but I'm a JYM customer for life.
Thanx for the info. I would recommend including the link to the actual published studies in the description. It would make things more verifiable in an instance.
It is. Not exactly easy on the wallet but trust me it actually DOES make a difference. I used about 30% of caloric intake as protein (an outdated way to calculate macros apparently) but coincidentally it correlates to 1.5g/lb or 3.1g/lb LBM as shown by Eric Helms. The keyword is when dieting. You can get away with much less when your eating above maintenance.
I've been training for a few years now and I use to be super fat. Started playing basketball everyday a few years back on a low calorie diet but wasn't really knowledgeable about macro nutrients or anything like that. I had notice the more weight loss I got I started losing a lot of strength and explosiveness so I bought some protein powder to help me gain strength. (Got scared the first go around because the scale had me gaining weight again lol). Long story short I said what the hell and started using the protein powder again and started prepping my meals and eating things like shrimp and fish to help me hit at least 250 grams of protein a day (I'm skinny at 230 pounds). Results have been crazy to say the least. Thank you for all your advice.
I can completely understand why the Doc would get frustrated. People who idolize steroid users come on here and say he's in it for the money. I'd rather spend my money on a supplement that has a proven track record rather than other body builders proprietary blends supplements that give people false hope when in reality it is the steroids that get them that way. JYM is the superior choice when it comes to science, its empirical and can't be argued. JYM is by far the safest and legal way to get big. Read the labels guys and don't watch one video of some dude talking badly about the Doc. Watch Doc's videos and inform yourselves. *end rant* Peace
great video Jim. love how you explained the science behind the physiology of muscle development. finally, i'm starting to understand because someone can break down simply
Hello professor, Im a graduation student of Physical Activities (4 year graduation) finishing my course the end of this year at UNESC - University from Criciuma - SC.- Brazil - I work with and practise resistance trainning for about 10 years. I admire your work and have read some articles an seen your videos! About this video I have some doubts and would like your help here if possible. You said its possible to buil muscle in a desfict calorie diet with high protein intake. The study was made with young obese, in my opinion the excess fat stored in their bodies compensated the calories they need to do the job, what we recognise like LIPOLYSIS (Lipolysis is exactly the opposite of lipogenesis process. When the blood is with glucose concentration below the normal range, it receives glucose from liver resulting breaking glicogênio. The liver, in turn, to maintain its stable level of glycogen, removes fatty acids from blood, transforming them into glycogen. When the blood, which had fatty acids removed by the liver, comes to the skin, this breaks the fat stored in your fat cells and enters the blood in the form of fatty acids. The factors that influence lipolysis and lipogenesis are: caloric intake, energy expenditure, hormonal, psychological, social and hereditary. It is a natural process stimulated also by the pituitary GH release. This most frequent in people in the growth phase, in which the use of stored energy in lipids is necessary. If I´m wrong please tell me. I would apreciate very much if you could link me to studies made with lean and active people? I understand the empirical results don´t lie, I have tested myself, but you know how is dificult for us in this days to atest that without a paper in the hands. Thank you very much and wait for the answer!
They were obese and lost fat. They lost 11lbs fat, thats ~1200 cals per day of extra energy on top of their diet. That is how they built muscle. Dont expect some very lean dude to be able to replicate.
Thank you for making all these informative videos Jim. I recently started using your products. I have the 4lbs stack and I also have the shred and omega. I'm considering buying the vita as well. Could you please make a video explaining how to take them or if I should take all of that for what I want to accomplish. I workout around 10:30am, 3-5 times a week. I do Crossfit as exercise. I'm a 6'01 male and weigh 231lbs. As of June of 2015, I weighed 277lbs. I still have a gut and want to lose it completely. My diet is not the best but not the worst. I cut out sweets and only drink water. I'm a police officer so eating and sleep will always be crazy. I hope you respond to this. If not, thank you regardless. By the way the pro vanilla tastes amazing.
I cant see myself eating 324g a day in Protein unless i ate 6-7 meals a day. I struggle eating 150g a day consistently. Smh. Does this rule apply to All-Nattys too or just people on Gear?
I have been able to get up to that amount of protein, without forcing myself to eat more, in just two meals per day by eating sort of carnivorously, and drinking milk mixed with whey and collagen at meals.
+Jim Stoppani - Thanks for the science related tip. Could you give a link to the study? Also would love to see other studies that refer to healthy subjects on a high protein diet.
Romeo Numberone dude a 9 ounce chicken breast is about 80 grams of protein if you have two of those that is 160 grams of protein already then add 1 0r two shakes at 25g per serving then breakfast and lunch and you have your 250grams of protein easily I would recommend eating high fiber vegetables with each meal like spinach broccoli carrots to aid in digestion and elimination
I gained about 30 pounds of fat in about 2 years im trying to loose fat why would I take in my body weight in protein which would increase calories ? I’m trying to reduce them.
Yeah, they built muscle in a calorie deficit, but they were also obese. They body was taking from their fat reserves. Now, this study should be done on people with a sub 15% body and see the results.
I would imagine getting 1.5+ grams of protein per pound of bodyweight would be rather difficult to stay in a calorie deficit. Unless your diet consists of tuna and protein powder
I believe that people with a HIGH body fat percentage (whether trained or untrained) can build muscle WHILE in a caloric deficit, my only question is at WHAT BODY FAT PERCENTAGE would this phenomenon STOP?🤔
Hey man, I like BPI Isolate HD. 25grams of protein per scoop and 5 grams of BCAA per scoop. Very easy to absorb and very good for when Keeping a calorie deficit diet.
I just think there's something more out there that is better, has a shorter chain of complete amino acids.. that does not take hours to digest. Ever heard of Ted Esselstyn? A firefighter/traithelete from Austin that has a different take w/ the science of nutrition
It's worth thinking about the fact that if they were taking the same number of calories and took more protein than the other group, doesnt that mean they were consuming lower fats and/or carbs than the group eating 0.5g per lb of bodyweight? because the calories are same.... yes? or no?
What would you recommend for a veggen diet mostly consisting of legumes, egg whites (as the name suggests) , tofu, soy milk and nuts with a 35p/40c/25f macro split and a protein shake probably
jim knows his shit. not just that even most less educated cram at least 1.5 to 2 grams of protien ppobw. all the scientists that say protien will harm you have probably never picked up a weight
+Jim Stoppani It has been two weeks since I increased my protein intake from 1g to 1.5grams per lb of bw on my cut and I've been getting great results. Thanks Jim👍
I have a question. I'm now 310, down from 370 in 4 months with a caloric deficit and 5 days a week weight training....Anyways i've read that I should get 1.0 g per LEAN body weight. If not I'll be eating 310 grams of protein. So do I use my actual bodyweight or lean bodyweight?
Right now I way 245 and I want to drop down to 225. Should I eat the protein amount per body weight at my current weight or the weight I want to be? Thanks
If their diet had more protein it means they had less carbs in their macros, so it's the reason why they lost more weight.Human body is not good at useing protein as an energy source although people say it's 4 calorie per 1 gram ,recent studies say only 12% of protein can be used as an energy source(just specific aminos).My opinion...
My nephew is underweight but trying to gain serious muscle by weight training. Would he be able to use this same approach as an underweight individual? My concerns for him are: getting leaner when he's already underweight as it is. Does this approach still work for those underweight trying to gain weight?
I’ve hit my goal weight doing keto and IF I wanna play around with my macros a bit with this logic. Bring down my fat intake a bit and increase my protein while keeping my carbs low. A lot of differing opinions on gluconeogenesis.
Keto is not good for muscle building. Keep your protein at about 30%, fat at 25-30% and rest carbs. Protein is the most important you can play around with the other two but if your training in the gym it's not a good idea to go low carb - in fact you wanna keep carbs high. And regarding your other question - I think LBM is a good starting point. Add a few grams per week and see if your body composition improves, until you hit the figure at actual/goal bodyweight.
Question: Now if an Individual is in fact Obese and They were told to take 1 gram or 1.5 Grams per pound, wouldn't the excess fat increase the actual amount of Protein the individual would need. I mean if your 260 pounds and you intake 260 Grams of protein a day, I see a problem with being able to even stay at a calorie deficit if that was all they were able to ingest. Now I'm wondering if they took in a gram or more of protein per Ideal pound of weight??? I'm so confused.
i personaly tried high protein diet. im an endomorph, sensitive to carbs . a frend told me to do 1.5g per pound or 3.4g per kg. i lost about 8kg of fatt in that period and gained muscle and streght. i must say i used the zig zag method on the of days... so i confirme thee high protein diet, just to let you guys know its a pain in the ass to choke down 1kg of meat per day
Jim, what do you consider the pros and cons of protein powders? You had mentioned how the test subjects consume "protein, not protein powder" and sounded somewhat against the use of powders. I am not a fan of protein powders because I always thought they were supposed to be bad for people, so instead I make sure to have protein in almost all of my meals, mostly in the form of meat.
I’ve always wondered why you would use body weight instead of non-fat weight for calculating your protein intake. Can you explain why? As you lose weight then your protein intake will also decline?
Jim, hello. Please can you provide me with the full title of this study that you are referring because I need to school some "expert" doctors that play professor on every aspect of medicine? Thank you very much in advance.
Jim i enjoy your channel. However my question is isnt a high protein diet unhealthy ? So called experts say it damages the liver. I will appreciate your thoughts on that.
no. the fat loss is due to being in a caloric deficit. Eating a higher protein diet (0.8-1.3g/lb bodyweight), will ensure you are getting enough protein to maintain muscle mass while in a deficit, or build it in a surplus. The fatter you are, less protein, the leaner you are, more protein within the 0.8-1.3g/lb range.
Probably the only reason these subjects gained muscle and lost fat is because they were beginners or heavily detrained. Those two groups of people can do that. Trained athletes can't
I know and understand what your saying & oh yah ur Rootbeer Float protein yummy...Anyway I way 280pds how in the world am i going to be able to consume 420g protein a day??? Little alone 280g im doing 150g right now and thats tough
Okay so 280pds = 127kg thats around my protein grams right now. If i do x1.5 is 225g and 2.5 is 304g protein how would that be possible im trying hard to get 130-150 as it is. Your awesome thanx
I would like to see the level of energy that the participants had. If one group was consuming .5 grams more of protein than they would have to decrease their intake of carbohydrates and fats. Protein's use is normally to build muscle and aid in recovery whereas carbs and fats give energy. So to be on a calorie deficit AND have an even smaller energy source would not be the healthiest thing to do... Especially for someone who is during high intensity workouts.
It really depends on your level of Caloric Deficit. Go onto MyFitnessPal.com and create an account if you have not already. Plug in your goals and activity level. If you're honest about it, it will give back a surprisingly high daily allotment. Plus you're not taking into account daily activity calories which are a separate adjustment from just inputing a moderate-high activity level. My allotment for total calories is 2560 right now. I don't know what you mean by high intensity workouts, but i can enter my workouts into the system and get an even higher allotment for that day. I eat 180-200g of protein per day and i weigh 187-189 Lbs. That's 200g x 4 calories= 800 -80 thermic effect = 720. So i still have 1840 daily calories of fat and carbs allotted to myself. Dude how much training are you doing and what is your occupation, considering weight lifting burns about 450 calories per hour?
I'm an exercise science major and I'm just learning about how the body uses different intakes for energy/recovery. Doing high intensity training (anerobic) is going to break down far and muscle whereas lesser intense training (aerobic) will be mostly fat. Myfitnesspal is a bad judge for something like this. It only sees calories in and calories out. I could eat 3 pizzas and a lb of protein powder and mfp would say I did a good job as long as it met the macros. Of course someone eating twice as much protein is going to gain muscle if they are weight training for the first time in their lives.
+Matt Dougherty Not correct about MFP.com. They have made significant changes since UA took over the company. You clearly did not invest enough time learning about their system. I am on day 475 of logging calories and Macros consistently, which day are you on? It has helped me lose 30 Lbs. over this time period in a slow successful manner. MFP gives one the ability to watch Macro levels, input activity for adjustment, it has a step tracker, total daily calories, cholesterol intake, sodium intake, vitamins & minerals and total daily calories all based on which foods you add in using 100,000s of verified nutrient panel item choices. The App. which i love, will literally warn me if i am going to go over as long as i input my entries before i eat. Also worth mentioning, it has a graph section to chart your weight lose AND measurements of individual body parts. It helps me plan ahead. I think you need to do some homework on this.
+Kyle O shoot I've only logged 310 day on mfp. I have also lost 35 lbs while using it. but I'm not going to attribute my weight loss to the app/website. at first I logged all of the pizzas and burgers that I ate and I still stayed under my goal, but I wasn't losing weight. it wasn't until I actually changed my diet that I saw results. mfp is a great tracker for these kinds of things as long as you understand what you are tracking and why some things are better than others. I'm glad that you find it so helpful and that it has helped you achieve your goals. All I'm trying to say is that it really depends on the person using the app rather than the app itself.
You mention that this is an "obese" group. How about testing normal people that don't have losing fat as a goal or are of normal range BMI. This is misinformation saying high protein does indeed build muscle. Furthermore, those "gains" are a result of newbie gains.
I like when Jim shouts at everyone lol
Jim stoppani, i am on my 5th year of lifting. i started 4 years ago on November 17th on your starting strength program. i am 72kgs from 50kgs, i am much stronger than other people at my body weight in most comercial and university gyms, something i noticed after doing your 3 month starting strength, newbie gainz yes, but it was an amazing 3 staged program and now, while looking for info on gainz, i coincidentaly find you again here. ou are hilarius in the video idk why XD but the information is quality and i agree that 1g/pound is the bare minimum. I am tracking my macros and calories on a lean bulk and i am taking 1.4-1.5g of protien easily (only 1 shake used a day) on training days (6 days a week) and have experienced strength gainz and muscle gainz. maybe not leaness as i am in a HIGH surplus. Thank you again mr stoppani
This makes me feel better about lifting weight to get lean and im on high protien. This is what i need to hear right now. Lets go jim your the man respect
Since I've done Jim's Shortcut to shred I have lost 15 pounds in 5 weeks and have built strength and muscle. Don't tell me this guy is full of shit
That’s great. What happened after that?
Thank You for always getting to the point and not going all around the world first 💯
Jim you mentioned the fact they were beginners. That's what accounts for the simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain while in a caloric deficit. This would work, in my opinion, on a more experienced lifter or athlete.
+Jim Stoppani yes I have. I am a member of Jimstoppani.com. I was asking if you think simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain would occur in a more experienced lifter?
+rohailab Yes, although maybe not to the same extent. Obviously the numbers come faster to newbies, but advanced athletes can still achieve simultaneous fat loss and muscle gain.
After watching I am in full of agreement as usual. Let's face it, Jim knows what he's talking about. I have been training for 6 months now, went from 207lbs with a 38" waist .....today I'm 178lbs wearing 34" ( loosely I might add) still lifting respectable weight. All I've ever done is watch his videos and buy show product. Why? It's best tasting, best customer support, and the products just work. I'm not in the JYM ARMY but I'm a JYM customer for life.
Thanx for the info. I would recommend including the link to the actual published studies in the description. It would make things more verifiable in an instance.
Fucking love Jim Stoppani. The realest man in the industry, stay strong dude!
+Tedde Henriksson #JYMArmy
Awesome video Jim! I wish everyone would listen to you. I will ALWAYS stay JYM Army strong!
Man 1.5g/lb body weight is a ton of protein.
TakeFlight89 trust me you are going to need it on a cut...
It is. Not exactly easy on the wallet but trust me it actually DOES make a difference. I used about 30% of caloric intake as protein (an outdated way to calculate macros apparently) but coincidentally it correlates to 1.5g/lb or 3.1g/lb LBM as shown by Eric Helms. The keyword is when dieting. You can get away with much less when your eating above maintenance.
@@wesleygaitan your kidneys might disagree
Depends on if you are overweight or not. Someone who is 5'10 205 doing 1.5/ib vs someone 5'10 300 doing it is a huge difference
im taking 1.6gm/lb
Adding protein shakes to my low carb diet expedited my weight loss tenfold!
1700 too 1900 calories is perfect for recomposition, and u don't need a gram per pound .75 percent is perfection.
I've been training for a few years now and I use to be super fat. Started playing basketball everyday a few years back on a low calorie diet but wasn't really knowledgeable about macro nutrients or anything like that. I had notice the more weight loss I got I started losing a lot of strength and explosiveness so I bought some protein powder to help me gain strength. (Got scared the first go around because the scale had me gaining weight again lol). Long story short I said what the hell and started using the protein powder again and started prepping my meals and eating things like shrimp and fish to help me hit at least 250 grams of protein a day (I'm skinny at 230 pounds). Results have been crazy to say the least. Thank you for all your advice.
Just subscribed , I am more into carnivore/keto diet, and I like it when people really see the truth about food !!
I can completely understand why the Doc would get frustrated. People who idolize steroid users come on here and say he's in it for the money. I'd rather spend my money on a supplement that has a proven track record rather than other body builders proprietary blends supplements that give people false hope when in reality it is the steroids that get them that way. JYM is the superior choice when it comes to science, its empirical and can't be argued. JYM is by far the safest and legal way to get big. Read the labels guys and don't watch one video of some dude talking badly about the Doc. Watch Doc's videos and inform yourselves. *end rant* Peace
ßšÜ ßn† exactly!! I agree. This is about going the drug free route. No steroids, just focused on recovery and nutrition
damn right
great video Jim. love how you explained the science behind the physiology of muscle development. finally, i'm starting to understand because someone can break down simply
Hey Jim,
You should do videos with your customers training. Nothing focusing explanation, just pure training.
Greetings from Brazil!
Can you add link to study, please?
Play Jim’s video rant on protein intake at 1.75-2 x speed 😂😂
Hello professor, Im a graduation student of Physical Activities (4 year graduation) finishing my course the end of this year at UNESC - University from Criciuma - SC.- Brazil - I work with and practise resistance trainning for about 10 years. I admire your work and have read some articles an seen your videos! About this video I have some doubts and would like your help here if possible. You said its possible to buil muscle in a desfict calorie diet with high protein intake. The study was made with young obese, in my opinion the excess fat stored in their bodies compensated the calories they need to do the job, what we recognise like LIPOLYSIS (Lipolysis is exactly the opposite of lipogenesis process. When the blood is with glucose concentration below the normal range, it receives glucose from liver resulting breaking glicogênio. The liver, in turn, to maintain its stable level of glycogen, removes fatty acids from blood, transforming them into glycogen. When the blood, which had fatty acids removed by the liver, comes to the skin, this breaks the fat stored in your fat cells and enters the blood in the form of fatty acids. The factors that influence lipolysis and lipogenesis are: caloric intake, energy expenditure, hormonal, psychological, social and hereditary. It is a natural process stimulated also by the pituitary GH release. This most frequent in people in the growth phase, in which the use of stored energy in lipids is necessary. If I´m wrong please tell me. I would apreciate very much if you could link me to studies made with lean and active people? I understand the empirical results don´t lie, I have tested myself, but you know how is dificult for us in this days to atest that without a paper in the hands. Thank you very much and wait for the answer!
They were obese and lost fat. They lost 11lbs fat, thats ~1200 cals per day of extra energy on top of their diet. That is how they built muscle. Dont expect some very lean dude to be able to replicate.
Not "the group who got more protein", but rather, "the group whose caloric distribution was more from protein by percentage".
Thank you for making all these informative videos Jim. I recently started using your products. I have the 4lbs stack and I also have the shred and omega. I'm considering buying the vita as well. Could you please make a video explaining how to take them or if I should take all of that for what I want to accomplish. I workout around 10:30am, 3-5 times a week. I do Crossfit as exercise. I'm a 6'01 male and weigh 231lbs. As of June of 2015, I weighed 277lbs. I still have a gut and want to lose it completely. My diet is not the best but not the worst. I cut out sweets and only drink water. I'm a police officer so eating and sleep will always be crazy.
I hope you respond to this. If not, thank you regardless. By the way the pro vanilla tastes amazing.
Can you comment on why your protein powder has taurine as a listed ingredient ?
I cant see myself eating 324g a day in Protein unless i ate 6-7 meals a day. I struggle eating 150g a day consistently. Smh. Does this rule apply to All-Nattys too or just people on Gear?
Remember to count per lean body weight you have without the fat. Then the number will be less than 300g😉
I have been able to get up to that amount of protein, without forcing myself to eat more, in just two meals per day by eating sort of carnivorously, and drinking milk mixed with whey and collagen at meals.
+Jim Stoppani - Thanks for the science related tip.
Could you give a link to the study?
Also would love to see other studies that refer to healthy subjects on a high protein diet.
Jim - BODY (total) weight or LEAN body mass?
1.5 per gram of protein is a lot. I am 12 stone that is 168 pounds x 1.5 = 252 grams of protein!! Really difficult to get that much in a day.
Romeo Numberone that's easy, I fast for 20 hours and eat 150g of protein in one sitting followed by 4 servings of potatos
Romeo Numberone dude a 9 ounce chicken breast is about 80 grams of protein if you have two of those that is 160 grams of protein already then add 1 0r two shakes at 25g per serving then breakfast and lunch and you have your 250grams of protein easily I would recommend eating high fiber vegetables with each meal like spinach broccoli carrots to aid in digestion and elimination
Romeo Numberone I mean yes it’s difficult for sure but it’s not if you just eat stuff with protein and shakes.
I gained about 30 pounds of fat in about 2 years im trying to loose fat why would I take in my body weight in protein which would increase calories ? I’m trying to reduce them.
Yeah, they built muscle in a calorie deficit, but they were also obese. They body was taking from their fat reserves. Now, this study should be done on people with a sub 15% body and see the results.
Does the same apply to women doc?
You seemed to have ignored the fact though that the newbie effect would have contributed to the muscle building ability in the early days too .
Is taking a mixture of different types of creatine more beneficial than creatine hydrochloride alone?
Jim, do you have a link to the study findings?
I would imagine getting 1.5+ grams of protein per pound of bodyweight would be rather difficult to stay in a calorie deficit. Unless your diet consists of tuna and protein powder
Pls, I am 380lbs so y eat 300g+ of protein?
I believe that people with a HIGH body fat percentage (whether trained or untrained) can build muscle WHILE in a caloric deficit, my only question is at WHAT BODY FAT PERCENTAGE would this phenomenon STOP?🤔
1.5 grams / lb of total weight or lean body weight? How would the remainder of the macros look carbs and fats?
+Jim Stoppani Thank you!
so carbs are not protein sparing?
i like how you re a real doctor and dont discuss broscience
Is Scooby your brother?
what's the cleanest type of protein when trying to lose weight & cut down fat?
Lean protein - chicken breast, 93% lean 7% fat turkey burger.
Hey man, I like BPI Isolate HD. 25grams of protein per scoop and 5 grams of BCAA per scoop. Very easy to absorb and very good for when Keeping a calorie deficit diet.
I just think there's something more out there that is better, has a shorter chain of complete amino acids.. that does not take hours to digest. Ever heard of Ted Esselstyn? A firefighter/traithelete from Austin that has a different take w/ the science of nutrition
I totally agree with high protein diets burning body fat and building muscle.
Doesn't a positive nitrogen balance enable your body to build muscle even if you're on a deficit?
okay so when you eat tons of carbs and eat just above maintenance half the week, you can eat less protein.
It's worth thinking about the fact that if they were taking the same number of calories and took more protein than the other group, doesnt that mean they were consuming lower fats and/or carbs than the group eating 0.5g per lb of bodyweight? because the calories are same.... yes? or no?
Is this 1 gram per bodyweight appropriate for very far people? Like, 400 pound person eating something like 550 in protein?
What would you recommend for a veggen diet mostly consisting of legumes, egg whites (as the name suggests) , tofu, soy milk and nuts with a 35p/40c/25f macro split and a protein shake probably
1.5 g per pound... my dumb ass was counting grams of chicken, not how much protein in the chicken. Lol. Makes sense now 🐔
I work a physically demanding job should I get 2g of protein per pound
jim knows his shit. not just that even most less educated cram at least 1.5 to 2 grams of protien ppobw. all the scientists that say protien will harm you have probably never picked up a weight
Im agree what he saying , so, i trust him no matter what somebody think about .
Does too much protein damage the liver and kidney ?
What about whey protein? Doesn't it cause a huge insulin spike which may affect fat loss?
+Jim Stoppani It has been two weeks since I increased my protein intake from 1g to 1.5grams per lb of bw on my cut and I've been getting great results. Thanks Jim👍
Is this per lean pound of body weight taking out body fat percentage?
Link the study you are referring to mr science man.
I have a question. I'm now 310, down from 370 in 4 months with a caloric deficit and 5 days a week weight training....Anyways i've read that I should get 1.0 g per LEAN body weight. If not I'll be eating 310 grams of protein. So do I use my actual bodyweight or lean bodyweight?
Right now I way 245 and I want to drop down to 225. Should I eat the protein amount per body weight at my current weight or the weight I want to be? Thanks
thanks for all your work and sacrafice u put in to help other people. i know u have to sacrafice things like family time to do this... thank you
Jim please answer my question. 1,5 gram on Per pound of body weight or per pound of muscle?
when you say 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight, should i count only the muscles weight whithout the body fat?
No offence but can you show link to the study,was it made by people selling proteinpowder I wonder
Any chance you'd reproduce this experiment over a longer period using techniques and exercises you'd suggest?
If their diet had more protein it means they had less carbs in their macros, so it's the reason why they lost more weight.Human body is not good at useing protein as an energy source although people say it's 4 calorie per 1 gram ,recent studies say only 12% of protein can be used as an energy source(just specific aminos).My opinion...
Which studies?
how much protein you should daily get from high protein diet?
My nephew is underweight but trying to gain serious muscle by weight training. Would he be able to use this same approach as an underweight individual? My concerns for him are: getting leaner when he's already underweight as it is. Does this approach still work for those underweight trying to gain weight?
I’ve hit my goal weight doing keto and IF I wanna play around with my macros a bit with this logic. Bring down my fat intake a bit and increase my protein while keeping my carbs low. A lot of differing opinions on gluconeogenesis.
Keto is not good for muscle building. Keep your protein at about 30%, fat at 25-30% and rest carbs. Protein is the most important you can play around with the other two but if your training in the gym it's not a good idea to go low carb - in fact you wanna keep carbs high. And regarding your other question - I think LBM is a good starting point. Add a few grams per week and see if your body composition improves, until you hit the figure at actual/goal bodyweight.
Question: Now if an Individual is in fact Obese and They were told to take 1 gram or 1.5 Grams per pound, wouldn't the excess fat increase the actual amount of Protein the individual would need. I mean if your 260 pounds and you intake 260 Grams of protein a day, I see a problem with being able to even stay at a calorie deficit if that was all they were able to ingest. Now I'm wondering if they took in a gram or more of protein per Ideal pound of weight??? I'm so confused.
Asking which studies he's talking about nobody can't tell you LOL
Jim but you counting animal protein sources only in 1,5g protein?
So many people are considered about higher protein is not good for heart too much saturated fat
Doesn't excess protein get metabolized into sugar?
It does. They wont talk about it tho
Mr stoppani do you haplend to have the link of that study please...
if you go on his website he has them on there
i personaly tried high protein diet. im an endomorph, sensitive to carbs . a frend told me to do 1.5g per pound or 3.4g per kg. i lost about 8kg of fatt in that period and gained muscle and streght. i must say i used the zig zag method on the of days... so i confirme thee high protein diet, just to let you guys know its a pain in the ass to choke down 1kg of meat per day
So 2g is safe and more effective?
When talking about grams of protein per body weight. Is it lean body weight or total body weight?
Per lb of body weight means total bodyweight
Jim, what do you consider the pros and cons of protein powders? You had mentioned how the test subjects consume "protein, not protein powder" and sounded somewhat against the use of powders.
I am not a fan of protein powders because I always thought they were supposed to be bad for people, so instead I make sure to have protein in almost all of my meals, mostly in the form of meat.
It also damages kidneys....
What about creatinine?
I’ve always wondered why you would use body weight instead of non-fat weight for calculating your protein intake. Can you explain why? As you lose weight then your protein intake will also decline?
Eric Helms uses up to 2.8g/kg bodyweight and 3.1g/kg LBM for dieting bodybuilders.
You the man. Debunking all the nonsense and crap iut there +1
Jim, hello. Please can you provide me with the full title of this study that you are referring because I need to school some "expert" doctors that play professor on every aspect of medicine? Thank you very much in advance.
Is it better to get real food after a work out vs. a protein shake?
How bout on bulking I shud eat 1.5 grams of protein too?
Jim i enjoy your channel. However my question is isnt a high protein diet unhealthy ?
So called experts say it damages the liver. I will appreciate your thoughts on that.
bodyfat loss difference is obviously due to thermic effect of protein ?
no. the fat loss is due to being in a caloric deficit. Eating a higher protein diet (0.8-1.3g/lb bodyweight), will ensure you are getting enough protein to maintain muscle mass while in a deficit, or build it in a surplus. The fatter you are, less protein, the leaner you are, more protein within the 0.8-1.3g/lb range.
You need to put "in obese subjects" in the title. Otherwise it's misleading.
Thanks for the great info. 👍🏻
Probably the only reason these subjects gained muscle and lost fat is because they were beginners or heavily detrained. Those two groups of people can do that. Trained athletes can't
Hey Jim, do you mind posting up the study you're discussing in this video?
Yeah but they were untrained. Very difficult to gain muscle in a deficit if you're an intermediate or advanced.
Just like my uncle in prison went from skinny/ buff to jacked after a few years in the can .
testosterone levels are much higher in prison for obvious reasons
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@1:40 i'm guessing it was lean body mass cause they were obese
DOC , does shortcut to size diet is acord about whats you say on the video
Could I use jym protein to help my weight loss while weight training?
not that i'm a scientist, but these were OBESE people in a calorie deficit, no? I think it might be different for non-obese people?
Jim you're the man! Hahaaa
I know and understand what your saying & oh yah ur Rootbeer Float protein yummy...Anyway I way 280pds how in the world am i going to be able to consume 420g protein a day??? Little alone 280g im doing 150g right now and thats tough
Okay so 280pds = 127kg thats around my protein grams right now. If i do x1.5 is 225g and 2.5 is 304g protein how would that be possible im trying hard to get 130-150 as it is. Your awesome thanx
Dave Hall your protein intake should be based on lean muscle weight in your body. Not necessarily all bodyweight.
SeanSolo_ exactly 1.5 per lbm not total bodyweight
I would like to see the level of energy that the participants had. If one group was consuming .5 grams more of protein than they would have to decrease their intake of carbohydrates and fats. Protein's use is normally to build muscle and aid in recovery whereas carbs and fats give energy. So to be on a calorie deficit AND have an even smaller energy source would not be the healthiest thing to do... Especially for someone who is during high intensity workouts.
It really depends on your level of Caloric Deficit. Go onto MyFitnessPal.com and create an account if you have not already. Plug in your goals and activity level. If you're honest about it, it will give back a surprisingly high daily allotment. Plus you're not taking into account daily activity calories which are a separate adjustment from just inputing a moderate-high activity level. My allotment for total calories is 2560 right now. I don't know what you mean by high intensity workouts, but i can enter my workouts into the system and get an even higher allotment for that day. I eat 180-200g of protein per day and i weigh 187-189 Lbs. That's 200g x 4 calories= 800 -80 thermic effect = 720. So i still have 1840 daily calories of fat and carbs allotted to myself. Dude how much training are you doing and what is your occupation, considering weight lifting burns about 450 calories per hour?
I'm an exercise science major and I'm just learning about how the body uses different intakes for energy/recovery. Doing high intensity training (anerobic) is going to break down far and muscle whereas lesser intense training (aerobic) will be mostly fat. Myfitnesspal is a bad judge for something like this. It only sees calories in and calories out. I could eat 3 pizzas and a lb of protein powder and mfp would say I did a good job as long as it met the macros. Of course someone eating twice as much protein is going to gain muscle if they are weight training for the first time in their lives.
+Jim Stoppani thank you for this! awesome read. I love being able to learn more every day.
+Matt Dougherty Not correct about MFP.com. They have made significant changes since UA took over the company. You clearly did not invest enough time learning about their system. I am on day 475 of logging calories and Macros consistently, which day are you on? It has helped me lose 30 Lbs. over this time period in a slow successful manner. MFP gives one the ability to watch Macro levels, input activity for adjustment, it has a step tracker, total daily calories, cholesterol intake, sodium intake, vitamins & minerals and total daily calories all based on which foods you add in using 100,000s of verified nutrient panel item choices. The App. which i love, will literally warn me if i am going to go over as long as i input my entries before i eat. Also worth mentioning, it has a graph section to chart your weight lose AND measurements of individual body parts. It helps me plan ahead. I think you need to do some homework on this.
+Kyle O shoot I've only logged 310 day on mfp. I have also lost 35 lbs while using it. but I'm not going to attribute my weight loss to the app/website. at first I logged all of the pizzas and burgers that I ate and I still stayed under my goal, but I wasn't losing weight. it wasn't until I actually changed my diet that I saw results. mfp is a great tracker for these kinds of things as long as you understand what you are tracking and why some things are better than others. I'm glad that you find it so helpful and that it has helped you achieve your goals. All I'm trying to say is that it really depends on the person using the app rather than the app itself.
You mention that this is an "obese" group. How about testing normal people that don't have losing fat as a goal or are of normal range BMI. This is misinformation saying high protein does indeed build muscle. Furthermore, those "gains" are a result of newbie gains.