What 15 Years of Mix Progression Sounds Like
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Going from amateur to pro mixer doesn't happen overnight!
Here's a year-by-year breakdown of what my work sounded like at the beginning, and how I got to where I am now.
I point out some key turning points and breakthroughs along the way, and how you can make the same progress even faster than I did.
Dude, i shamelessly love you for all the content you offer to this community. THANK YOU! (from all of us)
I appreciate that!
Don't be ashamed, man! It's not just you. There are at least 33.499 more, including me hahaha. Jordan is my 2d fave teacher, after a lady I had in American Literature.
I don’t think he’s into dudes……
@@PitchforkIncorporated thank you for that absolutely important information .
@@loneryouth No Problem
Dude, thanks for showing this progression. Truth is, yes, the first tracks sound "raw" ... And yes, that's an aesthetic that's pleasing to some, especially in the scene, especially around that time... But that wasn't your intent. You wanted polish... And you spent a career finding and mastering that. I think this is phenomenal work. At 2016 you just begin to soar... And it's evident.
Just so you know: you mixed the best-sounding Silverstein record. I threw that on my car stereo and from the first hit I was like, holy cow, this is GREAT. Super dynamic and punchy, and the production choices on that opener with that really gated guitar sound bring me back even all these years later.
That Intervals mix saved my life at the time. 🙌
i aswell digged this record when it came out and until right now i didnt even know it was from him - well no wonder i liked it :D
@@loneryouth I just had the same reaction to the Nick Johnston album- such amazing art, all around.
This is an awesome video, for inspiration!
Jordan's courses were the biggest factor that put me full-time in my studio within about 18 months...
Now I want to go make some new music! 😄
Start: not enough compression
Middle: too much compression (block waveform)
Recent: considering compression the right amount each time
I couldn't watch beyond a couple of minutes because even his earliest mixes don't even remotely touch on how bad my current mixes are...and I've been trying to mix off and on since 2008.
In my "too much compression" phase
This might be cap but there’s a nostalgia to that sound that I still like. The 3rd song with the hella poppy snare and the gang vocals is SICK!
nobody else online teaching mixing or recording shows their first to recent mixes for US to hear. Thank you for keeping it REAL!
When I clicked this video, I was super skeptical. Then I found out you mixed the only Intervals record with vocals. I'm a huge fan of that record so I was geeking when you mentioned it. Anup Sastry is a monster!
Really appreciate the level matching.
16:03 OH SICK. That Intervals album was MY FAVORITE and was my workout music for a year or more, still perhaps my favorite program metal album.... Small world that I end up getting to hear from the engineer. Love that.
You have probably the most helpful videos on TH-cam that I've found. Since I subscribed and started watching my mixes immediately started getting better.
That's awesome, thank you!
I am addicted to Binary Garden. Great music content and I still can't get enough of the mix. I still listen to it almost everyday.
It's great that you show your progress over time. I wish that more songwriters and producers did something like this. To a lot of people succes seems to come overnight, but they never see the years long struggle and the investment in the craft. Something you did not cover, but what is also essential is to learn to really listen. Taking time for some audio/ ear-training can also save you some years.
Personally, I think Logic from Apple makes it much easier to step into the world of audio production than Pro Tools. I made a big leap in queality when I switched from Pro-Tools to Logic, somehow it's more intuitive when everything is still new. The channel presets are a great guide to get an idea what to do.
Man, this is really an inspiring development. I've also found myself needing a break after many years of mixing music. And I starting developing other business too. But now, just like u, I want to get back to mixing some music. I'm not so goot and consistent as u in mixing, and haven't got contracts with labels... But still, that's a lot of similarities to our lifeways. Thank u
Ah so it's the drums that make all those old analog recorded albums sound live. I honestly never knew they were using drum samples in metal production/engineering until I started watching tutorials. Even though I mostly do hip hop, I like to try to learn stuff from people working on rock/metal projects to. I'm only in this about 2 years and on my new setup for about 4 months. There's much to learn but I'm glad I spent all that time using the FL demo before getting a bunch of hardware and other stuff. It kind of helped me gain an understanding of what different things do.
I found this channel 6 months ago because I run a home recording studio and just found out that you mixed one of my favorite records of all time (Silverstein This Is How the Wind Shifts) That's really cool.
Dude it's so interesting how OUR perception of our ability changes... Both of those mixes sound great, and I don't notice any problems with either of them. Keep going and keep progressing, by all means, but remember that every mix/record you make is the BEST you could do at the time--that fact is worth something on its own. Loving your videos today! You share great insight and new perspectives on things that have really helped me view/approach some things differently. Hats off brother!
mixing and learning takes time learning more from mix engineers will make you progress....I'm learning the progress since 2016 on my own ,learning from scratch....thanks for this video
really awesome progress on the mixes btw!
Originally discovered you from A Voice Within and been following your content for a couple years. This has been my favorite video so far. Thanks for the encouragement.
Love your content man, all of the talent, none of the pretentiousness and hubris. Keep it up!
yeah, hes an incredible dude. Really a great channel
hey dude, didn't know you were on TH-cam. Cool video...great throwback to a simpler time!
I am from brazil and your videos have totally changed my mixes,thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!!!
This is really interesting because especially for heavy music on a diy level, the mid 00's were very "raw" sounding in general. That's kind of what made it special at the time, but watching your journey and (to my ears) growing mid area EQ control is fantastic.
I can't believe how many of tge band and albums that you recorded that impacted my life. And now I'm learning to improves my mixes from you. Bottom of my heart, thank you.
Great content! I find when you're mixing you have to be happy with the small mix-to-mix improvements! It's a HUUUGE learning curve especially when you're working in non-professional situations, which nowadays many of us are! As long as each mix is a bit better than the last you're on the right road! I always focus on what's wrong in my mixes over what's right but it makes me try harder next time round and improve! One thing that I seriously struggled with was getting the snare right... I could get the crack but never the ring! Turns out I was just terrible at rim shots and should definitely been having using a better drummer, haha!
Dang Emery I loved pony tail parade then lost track of them when tooth and nail went through that rough patch with fsf (going with another singer), project 86 and stavesacre all leaving or going to big label. It's good to hear new (old) stuff from them.
Ngl I Hella fw the "old bad mixes" those went So hard
Thank you, Jordan! This is a great video idea! It is very helpful and encouraging being able to see your progress like this over the years. I think more content like this is super valuable. Maybe a video idea could be to have certain transitional moments from your career that you go more in depth with. Like taking a microscope into certain portions of this timeline.
Honestly, considering you had just started -- that first mix from '06 is not bad,...at all. The performance,.....not so good. Was fun to listen to the progression,....great stuff, thanks for sharing.
“I started here,” *shows good mix* “and now I’m here,” *shows an also really good mix*
Long short: be good at mixing
You’re one of my favorite mixers Jordan and you teach so well and offer so much to us. I’ve loved your work for years and have your book and you’ve helped me a lot! Keep it up! Much thanks
Also, one of my favorite mixes of yours is the Forevermore album you did. It’s THICCCC, been jammin that one for years now
Had no idea you mixed remarkably human. Legitimately one of my favorite albums
This is literally how long I have been on this journey too. Goddamn. Thanks for putting this out there for all to see and hear your progress.
Man, I love the 2006 mixes. They sound awesome
Lots of people saying that! What the heck haha. Maybe being too polished isn't pleasing to peoples ears because we are used to hearing non-polished releases?
It's amazing to see the progress 🤘🏻
Question: What would you say was your biggest "ahaa" moment in mixing heavy guitars?
Awesome question. I love "ahaa" moments. Basically, I live for them. I never used a expression in my language (Spanish) for them but "ahaa" seems just perfect xD.
in Finland that would be "huh huh" moment )))
@@rmv2333 in Finland that would be "huh huh" moment )))
"No one is gonna get there overnight"
Me: ... soooo 2 nights? 😂
Awesome video man. I've been watching since your first counterparts mix video!
Wish I could afford your course but I greatly appreciate all the help you've been with the free videos you give us here.
omg i always loved counterparts especially that song. thats mad cool ! Thanks for sharing
Man I wish I could send my mixes to ya and see what you think. I feel like theres some magic missing from my progression in all of this.
Thank you for sharing that, we so often get in our own way by believing "we are not good enough"
This is the most encouraging video I've ever seen. Thank you for this.
Thanks for this Jordan. Kinda alleviates my impostor syndrome.
I love your channel man, just watched a handful of your video's, super insightful.
I actualy dig your old mixes
BRO! where's the love for We Were Sharks tho!? Man, Not A Chance ripped because of you!
this was super motivating Jordan; thank you so much for this video.
Love Silverstein man!
A lot of steps, BUT also a lot of gear improvements over those 15 years. So it's not as simple as if your using the SAME exact gear you were 15 years ago. I respect you and follow you, but your not factoring in a VERY important variable. Like CRITICALLY important variable. Gear, Room, The Bands talent level, your mics used then and now, etc. So when I hit play and hear you say I went from this to this " is slightly misleading because of the unending variables. No doubt you learned a lot and no doubt your mixes are 100x better hands down. Good day sir
Do you have a list of the songs? Nice video, by the way - it's interesting to see this perspective!
Where do you live? a lot of cool music happening, id say thats worth a mention. This is a great video. Thanks!
awesome. killer mixes. i do have a freakin passion for the early raw. somethin about it. wish i had some of these bands to look up!
thanks for the vid, man.
to be fair your 2006 mixes still hold up and are quite listenable.
I think a huge part of it is how the general trend of the genre's "sound" changed over time
You're earliest Mixes are better than almost all of Mine.
Funny enough i Had some lightbulb Moments (Not only) in your course on pma. Also i feel i learned a whole Lot from Tuning my Recording skills.
Structures, All of the Above? Amazing ep.
my band Woe of Tyrants toured with Structures and Within The Ruins that year...amazing dudes, they introduced me to the Canadian delicacy Poutine. 2009, the glory days
@@johnnyroberts8641 IN THE NEW JERUSALEM!
Holy crap. Kingdom of Might. Appreciate you guys making that album \m/
@@johnnyroberts8641 I'm up here in Wisconsin. That poutine stuff makes it way down here too. So good
Much love bro, thanks for the kind words! Yeah dude, poutine was so delicious, I kinda realized then and there that Americans waste fries with ketchup and I wanted Canada to adopt me
I ALWAYS hope that next year I can listen to my mixes from the year before and say "whoa, that sucked". It means I have done a lot of progresses and can now address new problems in the mix.
OMG you mixed "Remarkably Human", that means that you mixed Gavin Harrison... Damn, awesome mix dude
this is such a cool and awesome video
Going to join with the list of people that like the old mixes more xD Sounds more like actual bands playing. The new stuff is very much in line with what the current sound is, so compliments for that, but that's not a sound I particularly enjoy that much =\
Very cool way to track improvement, maybe we don’t realize our improvements mix after mix, it’s cool to see the big picture, I recently did the same thing and I feel it’s really a motivation booster to do more and more mixes 💪🏾💪🏾
I'd like to hear you remix an old project.
Great video, very interesting !..
2006 - the year of every metalcore band imitating As I Lay Dying
i love that auras record so much. over the years have you been exporting at different ceilings?
They werent terrible im 4 months in amd the mixes i bedn dropping are great for being so mew i have mix engineer buddys thst guide me tho i just dropped my first hsrdcore song!!
That one has been very helpful. Thanks
What do you mean by drum editing? Like chop up the samples and quantize them? If you do that, wouldnt you have to do it with all the instruments...otherwise everything will be off slightly?
Watching this in 2022. I've been mixing my own stuff for like 3/4 years or so and your first mixes are still better than mine 😂😂
Video recommended on TH-cam. "Well that's a good southern Ontario accent if I've ever heard one".
Going through bands - oh yeah, these are all the hardcore bands I listened to in High School, man, where I grew up had such a crazy hardcore scene.
Then proceeds to play song from band I went to high school with.
Well yeah. That makes sense.
Uff that Nick Johnston is still one of my favorites!
That early grind core sample was the perfect 90s grind core album quality tho XD
Silverstein? Dude, I know those guys! Opened up for them, and also ran sound at a local club for them…
Ages ago…
Lmao!
He is Legend, Taking Back Sunday, Snapcase, Stillsuit, Hopesfall, Hum…
All old school homies.
That’s what’s up bro!
✌️❤️🤘
Excellent vid Jordan. Early in the vid you mentioned that you worked at a studio before going solo. How long were you working in studios before working for yourself? Cheers.
I assisted at a studio for about 6 months
@@hardcoremusicstudio Appreciate your response. Most tubers never reply, but you really seem to care about everyone's success. I can't wait til summer time to sign up for your courses. Cheers.
Is the song from 23:36 available anywhere to hear the full track? Funny how you say it's just from students, sounded awesome especially that breakdown, just a really cool overall sound.
Why does it look like the different tracks have very different volume, and some of the tracks looks like theyre hard limited? Are they?
He said in a comment those tracks are mastered
@@Ignore14 So that explains what seems to be a volume difference.
Then it's only the limiting I'm wondering about.
Where can I purchase your drum samples?
at 2:50 i was like "woah you recorded Slick Shoes?" hahaha
A question: do you find that time has been a factor in your recordings? In as much as, are bands spending more time with you through tracking & mixing or have you just got better and quicker at getting good sounds?
This is a really interesting video, I've noticed a similar big improvement in the quality of my mixes in the last couple of years. I put this down to a couple of things: watching and learning from some great TH-cam tutorials; more practice; getting some decent plugins. I think the last one has less to do with the plugins themselves (you can get great results without spending a lot on plugins) and more because getting those plugins forced me to learn them better and drove me to practice more to feel like I was getting value from them.
I’ve never charged anyone for the work I’ve done while trying to build a portfolio of work and learn the trade now that I’m finally good enough to take on projects I can’t find any work at all.
Those old mixes aren't nearly as bad as my first ones, and the ones from some so-called pro studios in my area.
looking at the waveform, I'd say compression is your best friend. lol
Those tracks all hit the spot..but after mastering/stereo imaging?
Ok. I have been recording (at times on a major level) since 1976. Some of you advice is absolutely spot on. BUT--you are presenting (generally) the same types of music and tracks to show you expertise. You are obviously VERY good with the heavy, screaming/growling vocal-type of stuff. But I fear you would be completely lost in other genres-country, jazz, anything classic. I guess you are appealing to your niche, but there is SO much more to music generally. You are legit, we know that. But try something different.
I'm not a mix engineer, don't want to be, but I love watching these videos.
Hey, Jordan! What is your technology of creating your own drum samples? Do you record live drums and make samples, or you mix some track and cut final drum sound for sample, or something else? It's very interesting, I'm thinking a long time about my own samples.
Very cool jordon!
oh boi. been down this road recently. lol
Interesting!
That song from 2007 is awesome!
No worries, I purchased the BSA clipper. I am sure I’m not using it right.
What mic boom do you have? I have the SM7b also but all the ones I see on amazon people say they can't support heavy mics
How old are you mate?
Hey man, quick question, do you do the mastering process yourself as well or do you send the project to another Engineer to do it?
I just purchase a Presonus faderport because of you and I noticed that you already have a different one ,
I can´t keep your pace. haha!
Ah early 2000s Metalcore, nothing like it! Lol!
At least there seems to be some form of mastering going on. When I first started recording bands, I had no idea what a limiter was lol
My very first mix was my most successful it’s absolutely awful but everyone loves the fact that the bass is absurdly loud
Sergio open.spotify.com/track/3vV06BEIQ9oCFhNGm28RiJ?si=-Vnz23swQx2oG7p_zfJKMQ
does anyone know what that horizons song from 2011 is called? it sounds so good
I heard the counterparts track and my ears perked up haha
I’m afraid I prefer the rougher, raw, more live sound of the early stuff - just personal preference, I suppose.
Interesting I'm reading a lot of other people say this same thing too, they love that raw sound
@@norwardradtke1361 Yeah! Reminds me of listening to gig tapes where it’s all a bit more real and exciting
😂 I was using these tunes as reference tracks back in 2010-2015