Ancient Apocalypse: is the Lost City of Helike the Real Atlantis? | Full Documentary

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    In 373 BCE the classical Greek city of Helike disappeared beneath the waves. Its destruction was so catastrophic that the only way the Greek authors could make sense of it was to blame it on the supernatural - Poseidon destroyed the city. It’s hauntingly similar to the myth of another Ancient civilization lost beneath the waves - Atlantis. Helike’s location is one of the greatest mysteries in archaeology, but could it be possible to rediscover the lost city and could Helike actually be Atlantis?
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  • @voraciousreader3341
    @voraciousreader3341 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If you were playing a drinking game while watching this, and the key phrase was, “Could Helike be Atlantis??,” everybody would be on the floor after 30 minutes.

  • @diocles1743
    @diocles1743 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I had the pleasure of working in the excavation of Helike for the last month and its still yielding artifacts of massive interest (Stuff which im not allowed to mention just yet 😉 ). However with the rules the Greek government has for archaeological excavations there is only a finite amount of digging that can be done every year. All im gonna say about what we found this year is that sometime in the coming year it will be published and there is a LOT of stuff in the lab at Helike just waiting for the next publication.

    • @kf877
      @kf877 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Is there a website to follow what has already been excavated?

    • @diocles1743
      @diocles1743 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kf877 although the stuff we found this year might take a while to be published lol

    • @givemeatlantisposeidon3139
      @givemeatlantisposeidon3139 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sounds like a perfect job. I can’t wait to hear what’s been found, maybe we can correct the timeline on civilisation on this planet finally?!

    • @kf877
      @kf877 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@diocles1743 Thank You!

    • @ginaibisi777
      @ginaibisi777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope it is the truth about Albanian ancestors that everyone likes to deny their existence 😢

  • @FaizanMunirKhanRajput
    @FaizanMunirKhanRajput ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Plato did not invent the myth of Atlantis, he was quoting Solon who in turn was quoting Egyptian High Priests.

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Says you... What are your sources? Who told you that? Give us a clue!

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Do you have any sources? I’m actually asking bc I’d be fascinated to know more if that’s true!

    • @almitrahopkins1873
      @almitrahopkins1873 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Then why is Plato’s account the only one that exists?
      You also seem to forget that Plato wrote about a conversation between Solon and Croesus, even though they lived 300 years apart.

    • @Ibnafrika
      @Ibnafrika ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thank you Faizan. It's amazing how many people shout 'prove it' when this is Ancient Egypt History 101.

    • @almitrahopkins1873
      @almitrahopkins1873 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Ibnafrika If it was Egyptian history, it would have been noted in Egypt somewhere. Plato's third-hand account wouldn't be the only source of the story.

  • @khamen723
    @khamen723 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Interesting. Regardless, I love all the archeological discoveries. Must be a great feeling to pull something from the dirt that hasn’t been touched by human hands in perhaps thousands of years

  • @jamiewilliamson3161
    @jamiewilliamson3161 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nope! I somehow just knew the Richat Structure is the location. I noticed the striations from the Mediterranean across Northern Africa down through to the Antarctic Ocean on satellite ages ago. Then Jimmy from Bright Insight posted the question with much investigation and he confirmed it in my mind. The white, red and black rocks, fresh water in the middle island, surrounded by the concentric circles of salt water, the measurements of the circles, the mountains to the North, what appears to be millions of tonnes of debris off the coast of Mauritania flowing in the direction of the striations and so much more.
    The thing is, these “scholars” are almost always restricted by the narrative created by academia and can never stray too far from their story. We all know of how human civilisation was no older than the time of Mesopotamia (people’s lives were ruined by academia if they said anything different). Then, Gobekli Tepe came along, 5000 years older. Far too vast to be constructed by hunter gatherers as was stated for some time by the “Educated” until it became so obvious it was an absolutely idiotic statement!
    We need these scholars, but they absolutely have to acknowledge that they only know about what they have found, not what they may discover in the future. Theories are just theories and every single one of them need to understand that evidence makes those theories void if not supported by the new discoveries.

  • @fleetskipper1810
    @fleetskipper1810 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    This is a really nicely produced piece. However, there is archaeological evidence that Troy existed and was besieged by the Greeks. Because the shoreline has retreated from Troy’s location by about 4 or 5 miles, it wasn’t discovered by archaeologists until relatively recently. So, Troy is not a “myth.”

    • @sylviaross5722
      @sylviaross5722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @fleetskipper1810 When I was getting my B.A. in anthropology, my professors kept emphasizing that myths are always based on actual events - you have to take myths seriously, but with a grain of salt. Be prepared to make mistakes & don't let your ego get the better of you. Many scientists have very fragile egos & because of this, they don't like to admit they were wrong, thus preventing big discoveries like Troy. Oh, & BTW, a few years after I graduated with my B.A., then had to drop out of grad school to pay back my student loan, I'd been going to a psychiatrist for depression & anxiety (no surprise, since I couldn't finish my M.A. & Ph.D.) for meds & a psychologist for counseling. I once told the psychologist that all myths are based on actual events, & he immediately said: "No, they're not." I think he thought I was exhibiting "magical thinking", which is a common catchphrase shrinks use when one of their patients tries to think outside the box. He probably thought I was psychotic & was trying to get me to see that what I believed was all in my head. 🙄🙄🙄🙄I I was SO vindicated when archaeologists finally found Troy that if I'd remembered that a$$hole's name, I would've called him up & said: "Didn't you once tell me that myths were just fairytales & weren't based on facts? That's the mentality we're up against.

    • @YogiMcCaw
      @YogiMcCaw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don't think the video is claiming that the City of Troy is a myth, but rather that the story of the horse is. Whereas hard archaeology can show that Troy actually existed, we'll never know how factual the story about the horse is. I would have used the term "legend" to describe the story, but they chose "myth".

    • @pierrettegagnon2627
      @pierrettegagnon2627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But "Maria's COZY CORNER", ON NOTRE-DAME WAS NOT A MYTH, BUT A 99YEAR LEASE,

    • @Arkantos117
      @Arkantos117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The story was a myth proven to be based on a real thing.

    • @jewishgenes
      @jewishgenes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Homor's myth was.

  • @maszkalman3676
    @maszkalman3676 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Too bad that the tale of atlantis wasn't came from Plato it come from Solon who herd it from someone who(Solon) lived from c. 630 - c. 560 BC which is 187 years earlier than helike supposedly disappeared in 373 BC. Also the palce helike would be isn't match the palce where Solon said it would be at all also Helike is a city isn't a continent snanning empire. So no helike isn't atlantis also Plato(n) lived from 424/423 - 348/347 BC so helike would still exist in his lifetime.... quite shoddy 0 facts "documentary".

    • @ΒασιληςΑκριβοπουλος-μ8ξ
      @ΒασιληςΑκριβοπουλος-μ8ξ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Η περιοχή του Αιγίου είναι βυθισμένη..είχε κ θ έχει μεγάλους σεισμούς....ήταν πλούσιο σημείο εμπορικό..η Ατλαντίδα...όντως η πηγές είναι από των. Σόλων από Αίγυπτο κ φτάσαν στων Πλάτωνα.... συμφωνώ με το σχόλιο ..ότι ντοκιμαντέρ...0.

  • @rickhale8435
    @rickhale8435 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    So, Socrates died in 399 BC, and our only evidence for "Atlantis" is a platonic dialogue with Socrates, Timaeus, and Critias. If we are going to pretend that the dialogue is a true report, then it had to have happened 25-30 years BEFORE Helike sank. So explain to me how Helike could be Atlantis?

    • @ronhall5395
      @ronhall5395 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only similarities is that it was an advanced civilization that disappeared beneath the waves. I am not a scholar. I just read a lot. Atlantis while a myth, it does not match up with this city. Myth just mean no one alive saw it. I am sure in another 1000 yrs, many of today's knows will be called myths.

    • @mariewolton7027
      @mariewolton7027 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought Solon was Pluto's Grandfather x 5?

    • @barrywassel3899
      @barrywassel3899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It all could be related, perhaps ... Helike, Atlantis, Santorini, all could have been taken down together ... or even when Vesuvius blew up, and took Pompei and Herculaneum, they are side by side countries. Who knows ?

    • @DenSchimmige
      @DenSchimmige 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Atlantian time age was 5k years before the egyptian.
      Egypt time age was like 5k years from now.
      (And if you would read the scrolls of thoth.. you would know they went from atlantis to egypt)
      So yeah this docu makes less sense to me to..

    • @sloeberdoet
      @sloeberdoet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Indeed Atlantis is much older than a city around the greek times. This is only to poke up a story. Has nothing to do with Atlantis.

  • @kubhlaikhan2015
    @kubhlaikhan2015 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    An interesting documentary on Helike marred by silly comparisons with Atlantis, why? So Helike was hit by a tsunamis in 373 BC but even the. story of Atlantis is credited to Solon circa 590 BC reporting events far older. Helike is in Greece, Atlantis is in the Atlantic, with herds of elephant and a dozen other features entirely irreconcilable with Helike, Coto de Doñana or Crete etc etc. Just read the damn texts. History is already fascinating and precious without being vandalised with such nonsense.

    • @mlight7402
      @mlight7402 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Part way thru the video, the link to Atlantis was discontinued. The title interested me due to my curiosity about Atlantis. The interesting story kept my attention to Helike, and I may not have watched it w/o the Atlantis mention.

    • @sloeberdoet
      @sloeberdoet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what i thought just to have attention for this docu@@mlight7402

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's amazing how you all completely miss the point here. No one here is saying Helike IS Atlantis. The idea is that Helike INSPIRED Atlantis. Plato first included references to Atlantis in his works in the 360s BCE, right after Helike was destroyed. Isn't that an amazing coincidence?
      Obviously, Atlantis was never meant to be anything more than a fictional city to be mentioned in the equally fictional dialogues Plato wrote, and this fictional city was inspired by the real world city of Helike.
      Why did Plato use a fictional city of Atlantis instead of real world Helike? Because his fictional dialogue was set in the time of Solon, obviously long before Helike was destroyed, including Helike there would have been a massive anachronism. So Plato made up another city sunk beneath the waves, Atlantis, and used it to teach the same kind of moral lessons his contemporaries drew from the destruction of Helike.
      Helike is not Atlantis. Helike is what proves Atlantis is a fictional place created by Plato.

    • @kubhlaikhan2015
      @kubhlaikhan2015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@frankvandorp9732 .The notion that Atlantis is a work of fiction is absurd. Nothing about the way it is written suggests that nor is there any evidence that such a genre of literature even existed and instead Plato goes to considerable lengths to explain where it came from. That's not fiction. The explicit prologue and the many fine details clearly serve no moral/fictional function - they are just facts. I don't know how anyone can actually read it and still repeat this silly nonsense. The scale of the disaster clearly isn't "inspired by" Santorini, Helike or anywhere else but ties up almost exactly with the mega tidal wave that hit north western Europe at the end of the Ice Age - which is now proven fact.

  • @auntiejen5376
    @auntiejen5376 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As far as I can remember this is the first time I've heard of this ancient city. This is an excellent documentary and I would like to know more.

  • @angelicdexter
    @angelicdexter ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Regardless of the comparison with Atlantis, this is an amazing discovery and it gives an unique window into that part of history.
    First of all I was impressed with the accuracy of the ancient historians, and how well they documented this event.
    Second of all, I keep thinking about those poor people and what their reaction must have been when the earth started to liquefy under them.

    • @patrickf9217
      @patrickf9217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They are bad historians. This city was destroyed when Plato was 60 years old and is only 40 miles from Athens. He wrote about Atlantis only 10 years after it was destroyed. Do you think he was mistaken? The greatest mind in history thought the town next door was a 10,000 year old civilization?

  • @kamarivera9996
    @kamarivera9996 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    First off, the city of Troy was NOT a myth... Unlike Atlantis or this other ancient city I can't spell (LOL) The city of Troy has been found!!!

    • @ginaibisi777
      @ginaibisi777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And is in Albania.

    • @theneighborhoodhebrew2159
      @theneighborhoodhebrew2159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no evidence that the citadel found by Heinrich Schliemann is Troy he said it was to make his career. the 'Troad site does not fit all of the historical records only a couple hundred people could survive at the 'Troad site Troy is a much larger city that with stood a 10 year seige

  • @gariusjarfar1341
    @gariusjarfar1341 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Archaeologists are constant in never letting modern science get in the way of their theories; like looking in the sea for land hit by a tsunami, tsunami's don't raise sea levels usually, or looking for a pristine city that had been scoured by the sea.

  • @mhicaoidh1
    @mhicaoidh1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Helike /= Atlantis ... other than "city covered by water" there are nearly no other similarities in the story. Also, the story of the destruction of Atlantis pre-dates even the Egyptians.

  • @rodneybiltman2005
    @rodneybiltman2005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pleasantly surprised by this video. Well done.

    • @get.factual
      @get.factual  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

  • @TheDrRJP
    @TheDrRJP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Helike is NOT Atlantis. It's in the wrong place, wrong time and lacks the semi-circular structure of Atlantis.

  • @yensid4294
    @yensid4294 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Atlantis was supposed to have existed in 9,600 BC according to Plato. How could *any* city from the classical period be Atlantis? Unless what they mean is the event that inspired the Atlantis story...considering the volcanic activity of the area I'm not surprized there would be archaeological evidence of destroyed cities from throughout the mediterranean.

    • @bladeyoda649
      @bladeyoda649 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kerguelen islands. French southern Antarctic lands .

    • @vaughnjackson6297
      @vaughnjackson6297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I watch a yt video that said that Teresa a high chance Atlantis was in west Africa ,the Richard structure(I'm sure I'm spelling that wrong😂)

    • @Paraglidecrete
      @Paraglidecrete 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its un undisputable fact that the LUNAR calendar of the Sais priest that talked to Solon the year was one month , that makes the time period of Atlantis 1328BC . Νήσος Island in Greek = Island , peninsula , cost and land area in contact with springs lake or river.

  • @lindsayalisonstevens3592
    @lindsayalisonstevens3592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What a fascinating documentary! I love how they presented the facts and added to the dramatic story of Helike’s demise 😎👏🏽

    • @wisammoeali
      @wisammoeali 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they did not talk in detail about Pluto's description and compare it to what they talking about ...

    • @classesanytime
      @classesanytime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wisammoeali indeed!! What happened to the "Beyond Hercule's pillars"???
      Selike doesn't come even close to those that are situated near the Gibraltar strait!

    • @wisammoeali
      @wisammoeali 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@classesanytime I agree with you, I read a lot about this issue I concluded that most people are trying to avoid being accused of pseudoscience adoption. till they find an evidence that suits mainstream archeology

  • @eoachan9304
    @eoachan9304 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Aleiki was definitely NOT Atlantis. Plato clearly described that Atlantis was west of the Mediterranean past the pillars of Hercules ;)

  • @whitesky18
    @whitesky18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Homer's Iliad is not a "myth". It is supported by archaeology. Perhaps you should replace "myth" with
    'disputed".

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 ปีที่แล้ว

      No the iliad is a MYTH with all caps sinc eit was written as a play but contains real world events just films that says "based or real events" they are still fictional

  • @Atimatimukti
    @Atimatimukti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Get factual..Portugal is the most western country ever occupied by the romans, not Spain. So, what else is false on this video?.

  • @FaizanMunirKhanRajput
    @FaizanMunirKhanRajput ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Schliemann would be spinning in his grave to have Troy still declared as a myth. Ever heard the name of Hislarik in Turkey?

    • @troyrockwell7744
      @troyrockwell7744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They redefined myth with this woke hysteria.

    • @Zcrete55
      @Zcrete55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was Turkey around back then too? 😂😂😂😂

    • @EEsmalls
      @EEsmalls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Zcrete55no, hisarlik, turkey of now was area of Troy back then

  • @eggbert191
    @eggbert191 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Silly title considering Solon visited egypt and acquired the story of Atlantis some 250- 300 years earlier

    • @IRBry
      @IRBry ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just like the egyptians built the pyramids 12500 years ago right

    • @eggbert191
      @eggbert191 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IRBry pyramids were built in the old kingdom on older sacred sights. Confirmed by papyrus found at wadi el jarf.

    • @spiritualanarchist8162
      @spiritualanarchist8162 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silly argument considering that the character of Solon was invented by Herodotus centuries after Plato's account of Atlantis.

    • @eggbert191
      @eggbert191 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@spiritualanarchist8162 Herodotus was dead before Plato was born. Go back to school

    • @spiritualanarchist8162
      @spiritualanarchist8162 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eggbert191 He may have been death, but stories in his name were written long after .

  • @derekdreke4990
    @derekdreke4990 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd love to know more about that coin ! Wow !!!! This is absolutely so exciting

  • @DERTHIX
    @DERTHIX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No, helike wasn't made of concentric circles...

  • @storm1968eu
    @storm1968eu ปีที่แล้ว +12

    a lot of guess work packed in a 50 minutes long click bait drama ...

  • @xtra-xsell9025
    @xtra-xsell9025 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Helike and Atlantis are two completely different places, no affiliation.

  • @Wayzor_
    @Wayzor_ ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Moral of the story: Don't anger Poseidon.

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Poseidon doesn’t play games

  • @stanleywilliams4429
    @stanleywilliams4429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The narrative of Atlantis is not the story of Heliki. There may be elements in common but it’s not the same story. The same can be said of Thera. For Atlantis, look for the presence of elephants mammoths, mastodons, etc. If these critters are present it may be Atlantis.

    • @stevegarcia3731
      @stevegarcia3731 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and where were elephants? On the continent of Africa. That is the place to look.

  • @nilanjanachatterjee9023
    @nilanjanachatterjee9023 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video 😊

  • @countrycarservice
    @countrycarservice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got ya timelines mixed up, atlantis went under prior to 9000bc, helike came to an end @400bc, so how can helike be atlantis

  • @Yell5651
    @Yell5651 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fabulous! After so many years of searching, finally a believable answer to this mystery. I hope that the archeologists will be able to keep digging.

    • @acknickulus
      @acknickulus ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out ............. Lost Roman Map has ATLANTIS at Eye of Sahara Africa! (Richat Structure)

    • @LuciferMornStar
      @LuciferMornStar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope not old enough!

    • @stevegarcia3731
      @stevegarcia3731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LuciferMornStar Exactly. Any talk of this being Atlantis is nonsense.

    • @patrickf9217
      @patrickf9217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plato was 60 and 40 miles away when the city was destroyed.... I do not think he made a mistake.

    • @sloeberdoet
      @sloeberdoet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He spoke of a civilisation much older as the one of Egypt so every comparison with Atlantis is far fetched.@@patrickf9217

  • @stevegarcia3731
    @stevegarcia3731 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    373 BCE is AFTER Plato, about 100+ years. So, how could Plato have written about Helike as something that was in the past?

    • @konstantinosmitropoulos6971
      @konstantinosmitropoulos6971 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe because the 373bc wasnt the first time the city sank

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's just wrong, Plato was born in 427 BCE and died in 348 BCE, so in 373 BCE, when Helike was destroyed, Plato was 54 years old. Both Timaeus and Critias, the oldest mentions of Atlantis, were written by Plato after that point, around 360 BCE. Plato almost certainly was aware of the destruction of Helike in his own time, and it could very well have inspired his fictional lost city of Atlantis.

  • @LuciferMornStar
    @LuciferMornStar ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Plato knew helike. It's also just not old enough . Many old cities in that part of the world have been eaten by the ocean. Doesn't make any of them Atlantis!

    • @ronhall5395
      @ronhall5395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yes, many cities sunk beneath the waves.

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!!! elike would be destroyed while Plato is still alive also others would know it as well so no one would buy his tale also he stated that he got the tale from Solon who lived almost 200 years earlier(187) than elike-s destruction this "Documentary" is horseshit also it's nothing like atlantis was described and what she found at best an odler settlement with a few houses not a city.... with a temple of poseidon.... where is the temple??? And tempels weren't tiny where are the columns :,D no greek temple were made a row (or multiple row) of ornate pillars.

    • @stevesalkas9128
      @stevesalkas9128 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about shelike

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't get it, no one is saying Helike IS Atlantis. Helike is what inspired Plato to create the fictional tale of Atlantis.
      Plato knew Helike, and suddenly, right after Helike was destroyed, he started including references about another city lost between the waves into his fictional dialogues.
      It's not hard to connect the dots there.

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maszkalman3676 " no one would buy his tale also he stated that he got the tale from Solon who lived almost 200 years earlier"
      It's called fiction. No one needed to "buy" his tale, because he never intended to pass it off as real history in the first place. Plato and his contemporaries were shocked by the destruction of Helike, and Plato drew upon those experiences to invent another fictional city that sank beneath the waves, Atlantis.
      Obviously, because his fictional dialogue was set in the past in the time of Solon, he couldn't have used Helike itself, that still existed in the time of Solon. So he invented a fictional city.

  • @markmcarthy596
    @markmcarthy596 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In school I was taught these “myths”. Problem is the word “myth” was not a myth.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bright Mind!
      Copy of my comment:
      🌊 "Atlantis is not myth, the location has been found":
      Atlantis, as described by Plato, is now strongly theorized to be "the Eye of the Sahara". It supports Plato's description on each point.
      As time and Climate Change took place, the Sahara, once a lush green plane of vegetations, lakes, people, and animals, the area became desert, and the arrid climate evaporated the water, leaving a variety of finds throughout the vast desert.
      The "Eye of the Sahara is back draped by the Atlas Mountains, its rings observable, wirh scattered remains of red, white, and black stones.
      Artifacts would be rare, as the water would havw carried them in various directions.
      Landscapes change over tume but Lidar allows us to see the dry lake beds and water routes, and one that leads into the circular features of this location.
      Although I feel Atlantis was a far wider reaching Civilization, one that encompassed a variety of Islands, very possibly including the Atlantic Ridge, and even stretching west to areas of the Americas, I've really little doubt that the "Eye of the Sahara" is the location of Plato's description and over time had come to serve as the Capital of Atlantis, the Civilization's point or orgin and its "Washington DC".
      🔺In time this will be validated, slow due to "Mainstream Academics" Egos and resistance.
      🔺In time "Mainstream Academia" and their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline" will be replaced by "Authentic Academia" whom adhere to the "Standards of Science and Research" which prohibits using a Theory as Fact, and we will have Freedom of Thought, for Exploration and Discoveries.
      Beth Bartlett
      Sociologist/Behavioralist
      and Historian
      (an "Authentic Academic")

  • @deniserowley8549
    @deniserowley8549 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Plato would have known Helike was Greek not Atlantis.

  • @silvershadchan4085
    @silvershadchan4085 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    @Get.factual could you please upload a video about the Bronze Age Collapse.

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne1377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very interesting

  • @joelbaxter9398
    @joelbaxter9398 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just love the archeological evidence that our ancestors were so talented and intelligent

  • @archangel_one
    @archangel_one ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is known as the "This City Got Wet, So It MUST Be Atlantis" Theory.

    • @lightbeings6243
      @lightbeings6243 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hm..interesting

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment is known as the "I didn't watch the video but I still have an opinion about what I think it says" argument.

    • @archangel_one
      @archangel_one 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frankvandorp9732 I won't leave comments on videos that I do not watch.
      However, I'll admit that at the end when they go into credits or summaries, sometimes I will skip that part. Also, I skip any commercials.

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@archangel_one But you did not watch this video. Otherwise, you would have known your comment is dishonest and doesn't even resemble what the video actually stated.

    • @archangel_one
      @archangel_one 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frankvandorp9732 Okay, you win, it is ATLANTIS! I can't wait until they find the Stargate!

  • @connectingthedots100
    @connectingthedots100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think Plato would create a vage and colorful myth about something that just happened.

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah everyone would know that.

  • @jrmilchling9215
    @jrmilchling9215 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    are we forgetting The pillars of Hercules ? this can't be

    • @SULLIEDASP
      @SULLIEDASP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's why I think it is the eye of Africa it's not west but Plato never said west. Plus a Roman map shows Atlantis people at the eye of Africa. Mountains to the north same size frash water in the center. Same kind of rocks and mining materials.

  • @YogiMcCaw
    @YogiMcCaw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fascinating. It's too bad sea levels are rising again. There's so much that could be discovered that's just under the waves around our current coastlines, but most of it will be lost forever since underwater archaeology is so difficult and expensive.

    • @get.factual
      @get.factual  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the insightful comment😌let us hope we can uncover as much as possible 🤞

    • @athelwulfgalland
      @athelwulfgalland 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, it's tragic that we are on the trend of losing grounds to explore rather than gaining them, but we still are developing new technologies to explore what is hidden both on land & beneath the sea. I have hopes for these technologies answering many of the questions we have now.
      Unfortunately, as far as excavations go to get into the minuet details of the sites, that's unlikely to occur in our lifetimes. Then again, even when the climate shifts to a new ice age, most of these archaeological sites in the Northern hemisphere will be ground to mud by glaciation. Whether our species will survive that long, survive whatever causes the start of an Ice Age or still reside on this planet is hard for us to know at this point.

  • @dannybaker8273
    @dannybaker8273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the best bit of this docu, is where they tell people who are looking trho microscopes to wave their hands around while using it.

  • @andrewleivers7686
    @andrewleivers7686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The timeline plato gave that he had been passed down from solon and passed to solon from the high priests/historians of Egypt was 9600 bc. So no it wasn't 360 bc so it isn't atlantis the younger drias event happened around the same time that could be around the time the earth was struck by a comet on the Greenland ice shelf flash melting 2 miles thick ice causing worldwide devastation for many years to come. Many tsunamis have happened since but only one sank atlantis and that would now lay at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean where plato said it was.

  • @alisonholland7531
    @alisonholland7531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ABSOLUTELY NOT!
    It annoys the daylights out of me to see Atlantis portrayed as "Greekesque" Atlantis was an entirely different place with it's own architecture and designs,the people were not Greek! So why would they look Grecian - Atlantis wasn't in Greece, Plato was very clear about the location of Atlantis,he faithfully retold the facts told to him by Solon,who in turn was given the information by the priests at Sais.
    Atlantis lay outside the Pillars of Hercules,not in the Mediterranean sea.

  • @deniseholder4898
    @deniseholder4898 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was extremely interesting

  • @williamcollins9254
    @williamcollins9254 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It seems with the name Atlantis, Atlantis should be in the Atlantic ocean. I favor theories placing Atlantis near the MidAtlantic trench and mountain range, a very volitile region where the continental plates are separating. An island could have sunk, tsamies abound. As the glaciers melt glacial lakes could be freed and massive calfing took place. The oceans were also rizing.

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb ปีที่แล้ว +15

    GREAT series! THANK YOU for uploading ancient history topics!! There’s literally nothing more interesting

    • @get.factual
      @get.factual  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for watching!

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank YOU for posting interesting and _NEW_ content! Appreciate the reply. Have a great weekend!

    • @philipvanolphen2180
      @philipvanolphen2180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you accept the discoveries of Ron Wyatt? I find them more interesting.
      Do you think that if Poseidon is the Greek equivalent of the Minoan Dagon that the Greek Government is not going to put a lid on any archeological findings that vilify Minoan religious practice?

  • @RobRoss
    @RobRoss ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No. No it is not.

  • @danhnguyen-fn9eb
    @danhnguyen-fn9eb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the classical Greek city of Helike the lost city of Atlantis? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wrong location and time period.

  • @FlintGiven
    @FlintGiven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its clearly not Atlantis

  • @meansoftolerance
    @meansoftolerance 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The area is very popular for earthquake activity and more cities have vanished because of tidal waves created by earthquakes. Korinth has been destroyed a few times, last one being just over 100 years ago.

  • @jesterboykins2899
    @jesterboykins2899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No

  • @landrion7
    @landrion7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry homers illiad is not a myth they found the city of Troy

  • @lauravillanueva2175
    @lauravillanueva2175 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo, very epic

  • @alka9613
    @alka9613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a great investigation and history that doesn't need Atlantis dragged into it. Helike's connection to Atlantis is as close as my goldfishes' castle is. Perhaps we should be grateful that the narrator didn't mention Bigfoot and aliens here.

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Is So True Observation…….🌞

  • @bikinglikebecker
    @bikinglikebecker ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Atlantis has already been found right where they gave directions to it....

  • @noemicsillatoth2473
    @noemicsillatoth2473 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rumour has it, that it should be around the Baalkhan Peninsula. The Enchelei masons could build pyramids and "illuminate" them with some eels swimming around...

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Invading the local taverns for lunch? How do I apply for employment on a research ship lol. Great episode. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheSilmarillian
    @TheSilmarillian ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great doco indeed

  • @glynnwadeson5605
    @glynnwadeson5605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Talking as a grown-up, it astounds and appalls me that the nature of what passes for ‘discussion’ on this and every other bloody TH-cam stream quickly turns into sarcastic and childish bickering. Where’s the generosity and the real spirit of inquiry?

  • @abov2983
    @abov2983 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny they call it a myth but then they go find it in real life .

  • @Adj72
    @Adj72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think the atlantis theory was taken underhanded. it was not "cave" of heracles but "pillars" and those two are different. another is the architecture is far different, atlantis was stated that it has a three layered island with water in between and also advances of technology.
    this channel relate all sunken cities to atlantis like what they did on dogger land. if true then all the sunken cities in japan are then atlantis.

  • @sprre3899
    @sprre3899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting.

  • @normawingo5116
    @normawingo5116 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hats off to a woman that was infinitely patient to hit the target.

  • @KhaoticDeterminism
    @KhaoticDeterminism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picture it: late Cretaceous…
    Atlanta is currently in the middle of the ocean. It has a Don’t Look Up situation…
    However some rich business dude really really really wanted that iridium… however their explosion went all Deep Impact…
    One hits Haiti the other Chicxulub…
    Atlanta drowns 🌊
    #spirituality #atlantis #2Spirit

  • @keithh.2624
    @keithh.2624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very satisfying

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didnt athens go to war with Atlantis? That part just a bit of fiction? I dont recall any war between Heliki. It also doesnt explain the beyond the pillars of Hercules etc. It was too central to be considered beyond unless we have the pillars of hercules totally wrong.
    This makes a very compelling case though I will have to look into Heleki a bit more.

  • @dewittsnyder4212
    @dewittsnyder4212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering water levels are 400 feet higher than they were 10,000 years ago every single coastline has miles and miles of land that are now underwater that were once previously built on

  • @stanleywilliams4429
    @stanleywilliams4429 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just because Atlantis has not been verified does not make it a myth. Coastal towns and cities can found all around the Mediterranean underwater. Europe once extended to Ireland, Doggerland was real.

  • @TobiasC-mg4zk
    @TobiasC-mg4zk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plato wrote about Atlantis a century before 373 BCE and he was talking of an older story so no
    He like is not Atlantis.

  • @lvildos
    @lvildos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a tsunami can only temporary flood. Water inevitably returns to sea level

    • @edbruder9975
      @edbruder9975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They clearly stated the ground subsided. Only the tops of trees were visible.

    • @lvildos
      @lvildos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edbruder9975 around what time in video?

  • @DogWalkerBill
    @DogWalkerBill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As soon as you go off on Atlantis, you lose me. I watched to tghe end anyway. Interesting. The liquefaction angle is a new one! Explains why the city sunk! I am surprised they didn't find human remains, since most of the city occupants would have been buried before they could escape.

  • @stevewellman3154
    @stevewellman3154 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If “the gods” destroyed Atlantis for corruption, and the vastly manifold corruption we’re facing is contrasted with it… WE are about to be buried by every known kind of catastrophy!!!

  • @luna1632
    @luna1632 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    also a train of though that santori was the inspiration for Atlantis.

  • @mphaan
    @mphaan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The year Plato gives coincides exactly with meltwater pulse B. That's not a coincidence.

  • @PrehistoricEnthusiast
    @PrehistoricEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Atlantis wasn't real it was a metaphor!

  • @doctorspockARTS
    @doctorspockARTS หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plato was confused. He quoted the Pillars of Hercules but meant The cave of Hercules. Innocent mistake but one that makes the city impossible to locate

  • @zograf4572
    @zograf4572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Atlantis was at Azores.

  • @stevebishop7055
    @stevebishop7055 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apocalypse does not mean destruction. It means a Divine Revelation. As for Atlantis, "the island of Atlas," was undoubtably Crete where the royal house of Egypt moved to after the Exodus of 2447 BC.

    • @dp6003
      @dp6003 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, well somebody with vision

  • @dp6003
    @dp6003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work but the question remains

    • @matthewhayes3142
      @matthewhayes3142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, no question remains. if you're referring to atlantis, that was a no before the video even began. plato write it was in the atlantic west of gibralter, so no question remains. helike was never atlantis because helike was helike.

    • @dp6003
      @dp6003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewhayes3142
      Plato never ever said west of Gibraltar never ever ever ,
      Of course Helike was Helike

  • @dewittsnyder4212
    @dewittsnyder4212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely, Egyptian history 101

  • @bon3372
    @bon3372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ancient Greeks received their Art, architecture, philosophy, and their mathematics from Ancient Egyptians. As well as the story of the story of Atlantis. No?

  • @Paraglidecrete
    @Paraglidecrete 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the ancient city of Pikolassos in Crete , Atlantis =Tartessos near Cadiz, The ancient Greeks knew Γαδειρικη Gadiriki ( CADIZ) before Solon , Hesiod mentions it in the 7th ce BC .According to Iberian and partly Greek mythology Atlantis visited Hercules 13cebc from Crete , Jason , Tefktros and Menestheus 12 ce BC as mariners explorers and most importantly founders of Cities as aparent by toponyms ( Odysseus Lisbon , Tefktros founder of Ponteverda see his statue there , porte De Mensteo ki etera ki etera ) , The Achaeans Greek have been founding cities in the Iberian peninsula since 1600Bc , Martin de la Cruz found Mycenean Pottery fragments of the 13th ce Bc in the Guadalquivir . Atlantis was in the cost of the Gulf of Cadiz and the circular formation of the city was natural geoformation.It was wiped clean in a day ,as stated in Timeo , first by a quake of the Goringe Bank near by and then by the wave successions

  • @dp6003
    @dp6003 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s very unlikely it was in the Corinthian gulf

    • @sallyreno6296
      @sallyreno6296 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is probably unlikely that Atlantis was in the Corinthian Gulf, but Helike absolutely was.

    • @ddpp1420
      @ddpp1420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sallyreno6296
      Atlantis was in the Aegean absolutely as was Helike most probably and unlikely in the Corinthian gulf

  • @DenSchimmige
    @DenSchimmige 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait what... Atlantis at the time of the greek?
    This docu makes no sense to me.
    For those that read scrolls of thoth would know they traveled from atlantis to egypt.
    Egyptian times were +/-5k years ago..
    Atlantis was 5k years before that.
    (So +/-10k years ago from now)

  • @conjumonblue6450
    @conjumonblue6450 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Atlantis (island of Atlas) is a fictional island mentioned in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias as part of an allegory on the hubris of nations. It was presented as an advanced civilization that went too far in its greed, provoking the wrath of the gods who erased Atlantis from the face of the earth in one day and one night. It was a warning to the leaders of Athens. Sometimes an allegory is just an allegory.

    • @jacobnash9755
      @jacobnash9755 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Prove that it's fictional...
      There is a site in Africa that was at sea level at the time of Atlantis and matches the discription almost 100% as well as the isolated local native population having the same historical mythos as the kingdom of Atlantis down to incredible detail.
      It is the only site to match the major 10 or more major points that describe Atlantis. Many of those are very unique on their own. Let alone combined with more than two others. Some of the points are completley unique as far as we know and still shared by one single site in both the myth and the Eye of the Sahara.
      The only point that does not match is that they can't prove if any of the springs were warm or "hot" water springs, but they know the area was a giant volcanic formation so it very well could have had thermal activity at the time.
      While he used the end results of the story as a warning, that doesn't mean the city or the destruction was fictional.

    • @RM-yf2lu
      @RM-yf2lu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your professor must be soooo proud of you!

    • @Matt-gg2cq
      @Matt-gg2cq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RM-yf2lu It's almost as if conjumonblue6450 copied and pasted that comment out of an online textbook and never once considered vetting the information for themselves. Ah, our modern scholastic indoctrination system: where regurgitation of textbooks/woke liberalism/racism are the highest ideals, mixed into a cesspool with scientific facts--a place where critical thought and scientific method go to die and sheeple can't vet their uninspected worldview because the system encourages the deification of ignorant authority figures.

    • @amukelaniakani692
      @amukelaniakani692 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jacobnash9755can you tell where the area is located in Africa, like South, East or North?

    • @barrywassel3899
      @barrywassel3899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not so fast Blue6450 .... I have visited Santorini, and it is a bloody big hole surrounded on the outskirts by fragments of the original island. Whether is was Atlantis, or not, it was a huge terrible explosion and island collapse, you wouldn't have wanted to be there. Ancient rumours and stories can be based in fact. It could have been an allegory too, but we really don't know.

  • @marvinmauldin4361
    @marvinmauldin4361 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For Plato the destruction of Helike would have added credibility to the earlier accounts of the destruction of Santorini and the Minoan civilization that had resulted in the legend of Atlantis, giving him more details for his version.

    • @patrickf9217
      @patrickf9217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plato was alive and 40 miles away when the city was destroyed. He was 60 years old when this city was destroyed. He probably saw it happen

  • @markallen381
    @markallen381 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Red, white and black rock, didn't see any.

  • @ronaldjohnson7449
    @ronaldjohnson7449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    atlantis is right where the maps say it is ...

  • @barry7608
    @barry7608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great detective work all round, thanks

  • @mheiseus
    @mheiseus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The myth of Atlantis is older then classical Greece, 😂 it’s the story of Santorini which was destroyed by a volcanic explosion in the Bronze Age

    • @sloeberdoet
      @sloeberdoet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      atlantis must be in the atlantic ocean.

    • @mheiseus
      @mheiseus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sloeberdoet it might seem so but all evidence points to Santorini

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent Episode 👍
    Ancient Alexandria suffered Tsunamis, Earthquakes, and Liquifaction also.....

  • @Maxmumspida
    @Maxmumspida ปีที่แล้ว

    The professor says "Heh Lih Keh" but the narrator insists on "Heh Lee Kee" ...

  • @chrisbassett8996
    @chrisbassett8996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was thinking about the fact that there was a tsunami that finished off the city, and earthquake so the earthquake must have been a very big one to cause such a big tidal wave, and I am guessing not far off shore if there was liquefaction

  • @SyriusStarMultimedia
    @SyriusStarMultimedia ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a drink every time the narrator says, “Helike must first be found,” or anything similar.

  • @maryjones5710
    @maryjones5710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't Plato told the story of Atlantis by a relative who had traveled, even as far as Egypt?

  • @nik-dj8vi
    @nik-dj8vi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering the Content Maker here decided to call their Channel *Get Factual " that might be Important fact