WHY are Shuttle PCs so BAD? How many 2000s Shuttle PCs can I fix? What's inside these PCs?
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- WHY are Shuttle PCs so BAD? How many Shuttle PCs can I fix? (It's a long one with lots of fail) #XPC #amd #athlon #sempron
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Every single one of these will have bad caps in both the PSU and on the board. They always do, even up into the Core2 era, and are fairly easy to fix (ie replace caps instead of boardswapping BS). At least these have AGP slots so they would make for neat mini retro game boxes. But to add insult to injury, these look like they've been outside for a long time being rained on, judging by the rust and residue on the plugs etc ... The fact that any of them still give some signs of life is mindboggling tbh.
edit: This would be a weekend-project to get most (if not all) of these up and running again, then flip them for probably 5-10x of what you paid for them (if anything)
True that.. I would go for a recap. Bad caps brought computers from the era down by huge numbers. I've repaired quite a number of boards myself just by recapping them.
@@Laziter73 Sadly with anything Shuttle made, it isn't based on time periods, but penny pinching. *All* XPCs and related families (including their own-branded PSUs in them), and even the few desktop motherboards they made have cheapo junk caps from primarily OST and Tayeh, both known to dry up (from a shrinking rubber bung in the bottom) and fail without obvious signs, OR bulge if extremely stressed or thermally cooked before they had time to dry out. Things only got better when they switched to all-polymer caps around the Core i-series era, but by that point hardly anyone bought them anymore due to their unreliability reputation...
Exactly! The caps from this era are crap.
Was my first non-standard form factor PC. I believe it was the first heatpipe cooler I owned too. I thought the cooling would be amazing because it exhausted the heat directly off the heat sink to the outside. It's just too bad it was a P4 and not an Athlon XP or 64. Like, most people, i built it for Windows Media Center and it was amazing. Was a fan of MCE and Xbox 360 extenders until the bitter end.
For Athlon XP and older, you need a PSU with 25A+ on the 5V rail. Of course you have to replace the capacitors on the MB.
I had a Shuttle PC back in 2004 (ish)... I loved it right up to the point where it baked my expensive ATI video card.
Good times!
@@scorchio89 ouch!
That happened to me too with a nice Geforce 4TI. Never put a good graphics card inside one of these heatboxes. Mine is a socket 462.
I loved my Core 2 Duo Shuttle PC. I don't have it anymore, but it was a joy when I had it.
Love the video. I have a working one of these I use as a retro PC. I did some digging, it looks like the "GiGames" that shows on the BIOS splash screen (probably a custom splash screen for them) seems to be a Spanish company who make games machines. There's a high possibility these machines (or at least the one that boots) were used in casino games machines or one of those quiz machines that you used to see in pubs, likely with a touch screen attached and perhaps interfaces for buttons (hence the serial cards?)
Edit - Sorry, I watched the videos out of order and now see you said they're from old jukeboxes!
Bad Capacitors are common problem. .
The cases are kewl, I had one of these w/ a dead motherboard (and psu) got a new FSP Flex ATX psu and a mini ITX board / cpu / memory and SSD... using it as a server at home here... as long as one is realistic about what they try to shove into these little / low airflow cases.. The cases are pretty neat. but if one wants a gaming build probably not the best for modern graphics cards certainly.
at the time it was either these style cases or htpc cases
These machines are from a time when boards were populated with dodgy/fake capacitors. I really liked these shuttles, mainly the Intel based ones! I used to use Windows XP, Radeon All in wonder and Audigy 1024. I cloned a few so they were exactly the same spec wise. I recorded thousands of hours of TV with them. But over time they began to fail, falling over as capacitors failed or the power supplies failed. EDIT: 4:30 onwards, capacitors around the cpu area look domed. They have failed!
I have a 2006 shuttle mini pc. The components are expensive and needs to be imported to be replaced. You'll have to manually resolder the "defective" component in. Though i wouldn't repair it since it's an ancient computer now. The only usable thing is the 200w power supply which i could somehow make use of for my dc devices. The fan and heatsink could be used for diy projects. Cmos battery is long dead. Etc etc. I loved that pc, the psu cable/connectors looks cool too, but unusable.
I had several of these back in the day. They were fantastic for LAN parties. They even had custom bags to carry them in.
I own a shuttle PC, but mine has a built in LCD screen and came with Windows 7 N.
I had an SN41G2. I went through 3 compact psu's with it. When I took it out of regular service I tried to install linux on it, and kept getting errors. I ended up installing Win 7 on it, and hooking up a full sized psu externally to it.
Most likely, cpu burned up , can happen with those. 2nd psu,s took boards with them
I have a socket 462 of these. I replaced the caps and it works but only if I drop the CPU speed lower. It crashes if I try to get it to run at the Athlon XP's native speed. It's hot and loud and I don't really like it.
they also put these into touchscreen arcade quiz machines
@@fatbelly2438 that's where these ones are from : arcade/slot/quiz type systems. If I get one working better I should be able to have a look at the software on there.
I remember having that exact model of Shuttle PC. It fried three graphics cards before my dad got sick of fixing it. I loved that thing, but by the time I was getting a new PC, school started providing us with laptops already, so I was set.
@@Doofindork wow! Sounds like there were loads of bad ones!
Had a Shuttle X PC years ago it was the worst PC i ever had the power supply went pop & the CPU burned out
@@ferjarvis2841 ouch!
socket 462 cpu's die very easy, i remember back in the day they where the most fragile of all, i killed like 10 cpu's just changing thermal paste and chiping the glas core.
I was hoping it would be the same issue on them all & nothing too drastic but maybe you could strip em down & get one working.
Thanks for the video
The one PC., which did fire up is stuck in a boot loop and that could be caused by a failing hard drive, so perhaps you could try a known working drive.
That's a good idea! I've not given up on these PCs yet, as it would be good to explore the contents of the drive a bit on video :)
Many years ago I obtained a Shuttle PC., but there were always problems with it and it's end came when the PSU., went bang.
I have found that the HP., 800 G1 USDT., PCs., are far more reliable.
I had one of those!
clearing the cmos ?
The CR2032’s have likely already been dead for 20 years, not sure that would make any difference but it’s always good practice to install a fresh coin cell early in the process.
There’s other comments saying these systems won’t POST with a dead CMOS battery, but I’ve got 3 of these systems and mine absolutely do not care if the battery is new, dead or even missing…they work just fine.
@@jonchapman6821 I will have to check it out. These systems have stickers showing that the CMOS battery has been changed every year, so maybe it is part of an annual servie they've had.
some 90's caplators bad guitlaly. better chane those new looks me 512mt ddr 400 mhz rams to me
..'cause Young folks?
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awesome video! 👌
@@user-qg9wy1yk6t thanks, glad you like :)
1: you dont get any picture on those pc cuz your motherboard GEN use the old onboard. on this gen if your motherboard battery is dead you not gonna get any signal.
you most change the motherboard battery = clean coms > leave it without battery for 2 min > then use the new battery and it fixed.
{ its a method for old gen onboard windows-pc-machine at P-3 to LGA 478 up to LGA 775/771. so of its onboard by defalt use this method }
2: you deal with old electronic and old pc. so first clean all the ram slut and cpu pin with "Dry thinner aka thinner-20.000 or alcohol" + toothbrush. { clean every "Copper-connections }
3: not your all psu is dead! { Electrolytic capacitors need to be replaced } for those 2 who turn on = mostly need to replaced 12v and 5V capacitors= its clean the output voltage to motherboard { they always close to red and yellow wire} also check that two big capacitors on input 110/220 part .
4: crashing windows on that part is a {software/driver issues} not hardware = reinstall the os and install the right driver of motherboard also that nv-chip .
- you can also use ssd on that sata-1 ( but its not gonna be fast ) but you can use any sata hard drive up to 320gb cuz that old IDE-hdd is way slow and im sure its health isnt great after 20 yo. ( its not effect on retro look cuz it already has sata port )
anyway that was fun to watch, thanks a lot.