With no offense to you PPMD, I am surprised you're doing so well in this new meta, not that I don't think you're not capable of it, but with such a long break from competitive some players basically just stop existing or having any relevance. The fact you can give iBDW an actually difficult game is sick, whether you decide to come back to competing or not, you really are a fantastic player and you've earned your spot on golden guardians a thousand times over.
Pp has always been awesome after pauses bust remember apex 2015 or even 2014 in general he only did 6 tournament this year (if my memory is good) and were #1 world
this was super exciting to see from ibdw's perspective, he didnt realize it was you at all in the forst game! went from auto-pilot to "wait this guy is playing melee, gotta try", to super excited to play a set with this random great marth, to pissed when you win-quitted him lmao
I was curious on how the other side of this went, esp cause pp was using a name that doesn’t really tell that it’s him. very thankful for your comment my friend.
Such a great spontaneous interaction. This is the perfect meeting of personalities since PP is looking to get back into tournaments eventually and iBDW is great at giving practical blunt, direct advice about the current competitive meta.
I see the nerves, the doubt, the rust. but it's also so obvious that it wouldn't take long for PP's marth to be absolutely terrifying if he was ever in the mood for a training arc
honestly on raw gameplay i'm loving the fact that PP can still hang with top 10 players but from his tone of voice i don't think he has that tournament mindset yet and that's fine, even him just doing what he's doing right now is still really cool, and i'm just glad he's here
IBDW seems like such a great guy to have around. Honest. Reinforces people who need it. Really seems to carry himself rather selflessly. Always love seeing these two interact.
That's so cool to see! As Cody said, I really think you still got this and you could be a threat to top players pretty quick! Of course, your health goes first and you should do what's best for you, but that gameplay is impressive!! Stack it up champ!!
This was high quality content, we need more PPMD exhibition matches with masters explaining their professional techniques and showing Dr. PP the new meta techniques.
I love the flip of educational content. A good teacher never stops learning! I also loved the back and forth between you guys, and your reflection at the end. Sick content
PP Marth is the reason I've never quit melee or Marth. Some of those combos are just art. I'm looking forward to content with Zain, he is also a great teacher.
I fucking love IBDW's way of sharing information! So many top players always want to hide their gameplay away from other top players, but IBDW is telling PP exactly how to beat him in the matchup. This is the kind of sportsmanship that leads to furthering the meta. Good shit IBDW!
12:06 I think I’m starting to see what Zain means when he said that you could do an fsmash instead of a rising fair when calling out the opponent. It would’ve got a kill in this case
For a while, I feel you have regained the tournament spirit ! You have been focused and even you lost this game against iBDW, I am happy to see this. We are proud of you, we are team PP for ever !
the doc still holding his own against top 20 players gotta love it. i wont hold it against you man if you dont compete again. nothing will ever change that you are a legend at the game. love your gameplay, love your attitude maybe even more. keep on doin it man and ill keep watching
PP there are some skills that cannot be lost. The meta changes, mechanics fall out of practice, but the fact that you have a beautiful mind for melee will never change. It seems obvious that a path to the top is there for you if you want it. When you are ready, we will be right behind you :)
Now that I’m looking back at these games, even though it was 1-3, you’ve put up a WAY better performance against him than I initially thought. Coming back will be one hell of the assignment, but man I am sure you are capable of pulling this off. You’re one of the top2 players who inspire me man I will be rooting for you
PP, this is your sign from the Universe to freshen up your techniques against Cody and return to Stacking IT Up, babayyyyy. For me. For you. For them. For melee.
I loved seeing this. PP has been my favorite player for years and I love his content but I would really love to see him come back to competing when he's ready for it
I love watching pp’s Marth. It’s interesting how different it is compared to zain. Pp seems to use a lot more early setups into tipper compared to zain who tends to extend his combos. It’s awesome to see that despite zains dominance, marth still has a lot of freedom to play in different ways.
im sure you hear this time and again, but man it cannot be emphasized enough that that dashdancing is a work of art. like, put-it-right-next-to-the-mona-lisa work of art.
When I first started playing Melee, the best piece of advice I received was "don't wait until you are "ready" to go to your first tournament. Because no matter how ready you think you are, you're still gonna get wrecked". I think you need to consider that PP. I think there is only so much training you can do on your own. At some point, you probably have to start looking to go to tournaments in order to continue getting better. Obviously only go when you think the time is right, but I think Cody's advice is something you should take to heart.
Wonderful comment here. :) Something to remember though is that PP isn't training at all and hasn't in a long time. The Melee is primarily for stream comment, and he wants to build his physical stamina and mental sharpness back to start playing more seriously. But even the stuff he's doing now is progress. And people enjoy seeing him hold his own against modern talent. :D
From one perfectionist with health conditions to another perfectionist with health conditions, take other people's compliments to heart, celebrate small victories, and be grateful for progress forward :).
Watching PPs marth reminds me on why I main blue Marth. I want to see this man come back to competing. Shit who knows, maybe he’ll end up bringing back another god too. I just love PP man. Clean ass marth
damn cody got salty as fuck after game 1 huh. kinda weird to guilt pp into playing when he wanted to be done after game 1 but i guess he wanted to play a set. i think these games showed that pp still holds up and if he came back in full force and started implementing new things and modernizing his punish he could aim for mango and zain's spots if he wanted to.
LOWKEY, cody being afraid of mango shitting on him ended up making them play a set in which mango will maybe notice pp isn't someone he can just shit on for not shield dropping. it made cody feel better about getting meme'd on, and their conversation/the gameplay makes it apparent that pp is a fucking amazing player CURRENTLY.
PPMD is easily on the level to outneutral IBDW and most other top players. His edgeguarding and punish routes are sus in today's meta but not by much. Always a treat to watch him play. I Wish he had more confidence in his abilities because i cant help but feel he is too hard on himself when he plays top players
Youre in one of those states where you think youre a lot worse, but you also know youre not and its your mentality, but also you cant break the mentality. I feel it
Kevin. If you can have a stock lead and game wins against one of the best players in the world, with practice, patience, dedication, and most importantly heart, you can give these kids a run for their money. Like Cody said, you aren't far off.
Shoutouts to that guy in chat who said "Crouching tiger hidden cody" lmao
Saying “that makes sense” is something I really should do when I play, that’s so respectful and I love it
Try "this fucking guy plays like a donkey" it works for me
i always say "that makes sense". but its sarcastic then i spike my controller
"that makes sense" "for sure for sure" "mhm yeah man"
-me when someone goes hard into theorycrafting at a local
@@dwybo646 honestly faxxx bro lmao
Sure but you need to actually believe it. It shouldn't be just something you say. You should understand why it makes sense.
With no offense to you PPMD, I am surprised you're doing so well in this new meta, not that I don't think you're not capable of it, but with such a long break from competitive some players basically just stop existing or having any relevance. The fact you can give iBDW an actually difficult game is sick, whether you decide to come back to competing or not, you really are a fantastic player and you've earned your spot on golden guardians a thousand times over.
I mean he has been playing a lot of rollback netplay, not to downplay how cool it is that he's clearly held up his status as a top player
I agree, I thought Cody would destroy him
Pp has always been awesome after pauses bust remember apex 2015 or even 2014 in general he only did 6 tournament this year (if my memory is good) and were #1 world
Having the opportunity to ask n0ne or zain to play with them for practice doesn’t hurt either
@@AssailantLF No definitely, but competing is quite different to playing your average player.
Some of those games were super close. Seeing PP perform this well against a top 5 player in 2021 is insane
Cody doesnt have the gas on doe
@@blakeswanson1322 he literally turned it on game 2. Why john for some random lol
Did pp say “heck me up”? Most g rated damn thing I’ve ever heard.
Is he from Minnesota/the Midwest?
Darn* thing. Whatch your dang language bro
He's the Norm MacDonald of smash players
@lunchmanjeff don’t remember asking
Im sooo ready for PP to tryhard again. His mentality at the end, about not committing because he doesnt feel hes there yet is soo relatable.
this was super exciting to see from ibdw's perspective, he didnt realize it was you at all in the forst game! went from auto-pilot to "wait this guy is playing melee, gotta try", to super excited to play a set with this random great marth, to pissed when you win-quitted him lmao
I was curious on how the other side of this went, esp cause pp was using a name that doesn’t really tell that it’s him. very thankful for your comment my friend.
@@tiporosso im gonna try to post a link to the timestamped twitch VOD below, let me know if you can see it. youtube is weird about links in comments
@@tiporosso www.twitch.tv/videos/1045637590?t=2h38m36s
@@crooker23 Already found it, but thanks anyway! xd
@@crooker23 thank you robert for the link! seeing this from ibdws perspective is amazing
Such a great spontaneous interaction. This is the perfect meeting of personalities since PP is looking to get back into tournaments eventually and iBDW is great at giving practical blunt, direct advice about the current competitive meta.
I see the nerves, the doubt, the rust.
but it's also so obvious that it wouldn't take long for PP's marth to be absolutely terrifying if he was ever in the mood for a training arc
Day 87 of telling pp that his marth is kinda nice
Brandon with the mix up
Its kinda nice, right?
Enphesies on kinda
Has PPMD replied to you yet?
@@chwig7354 ye once, he called me cool beans which was pretty sick
honestly on raw gameplay i'm loving the fact that PP can still hang with top 10 players
but from his tone of voice i don't think he has that tournament mindset yet and that's fine, even him just doing what he's doing right now is still really cool, and i'm just glad he's here
IBDW seems like such a great guy to have around. Honest. Reinforces people who need it. Really seems to carry himself rather selflessly.
Always love seeing these two interact.
Couldn’t agree more, great guy, always trying to do what’s right, love that about him
hes only being that way bc he feels superior to PP so his ego is ok
That's so cool to see! As Cody said, I really think you still got this and you could be a threat to top players pretty quick! Of course, your health goes first and you should do what's best for you, but that gameplay is impressive!! Stack it up champ!!
This was high quality content, we need more PPMD exhibition matches with masters explaining their professional techniques and showing Dr. PP the new meta techniques.
I love the flip of educational content. A good teacher never stops learning! I also loved the back and forth between you guys, and your reflection at the end. Sick content
Feels good to see pp beat Cody. Even if it is just one game
IBDW is so aggressively wholesome, and I am here for it.
PP Marth is the reason I've never quit melee or Marth. Some of those combos are just art. I'm looking forward to content with Zain, he is also a great teacher.
I fucking love IBDW's way of sharing information! So many top players always want to hide their gameplay away from other top players, but IBDW is telling PP exactly how to beat him in the matchup. This is the kind of sportsmanship that leads to furthering the meta. Good shit IBDW!
12:06 I think I’m starting to see what Zain means when he said that you could do an fsmash instead of a rising fair when calling out the opponent. It would’ve got a kill in this case
If PP was waiting for a sign to start friendlies with top players this was it.
For a while, I feel you have regained the tournament spirit ! You have been focused and even you lost this game against iBDW, I am happy to see this. We are proud of you, we are team PP for ever !
the doc still holding his own against top 20 players gotta love it. i wont hold it against you man if you dont compete again. nothing will ever change that you are a legend at the game. love your gameplay, love your attitude maybe even more. keep on doin it man and ill keep watching
Top 5, arguably! And no lower than top 10. IBDW is solid. He'd be a perfect person for PP to spar with. Routing for them both.
IBDW is solidly top 5.
PP there are some skills that cannot be lost. The meta changes, mechanics fall out of practice, but the fact that you have a beautiful mind for melee will never change. It seems obvious that a path to the top is there for you if you want it. When you are ready, we will be right behind you :)
I love PP's reaction when the match announce the players 😂😂
Now this is podracing!!
Loved the conversation afterwards. Melee is a transcendent experience 🤙🏾
The feels from watching this!
Man, this was such a joy to watch
I love the wholesomeness, as soon as iBDW knew it was PP he chimed in to help him get better at the mu and improve. king shit
incredibly impressive that pp can even hang with Cody like this. if im a top player im terrified if a fully healthy pp ever comes back full time.
Now that I’m looking back at these games, even though it was 1-3, you’ve put up a WAY better performance against him than I initially thought. Coming back will be one hell of the assignment, but man I am sure you are capable of pulling this off. You’re one of the top2 players who inspire me man I will be rooting for you
PP, this is your sign from the Universe to freshen up your techniques against Cody and return to Stacking IT Up, babayyyyy. For me. For you. For them. For melee.
I wish PP wasn't so hard on himself when he was going toe to toe with one of the best active players in the world.
I loved seeing this. PP has been my favorite player for years and I love his content but I would really love to see him come back to competing when he's ready for it
This was honestly the most hyped I've been for melee in a loooooong time. I know it's probably silly but I popped off for you after the first game.
I love watching pp’s Marth. It’s interesting how different it is compared to zain. Pp seems to use a lot more early setups into tipper compared to zain who tends to extend his combos. It’s awesome to see that despite zains dominance, marth still has a lot of freedom to play in different ways.
This is almost more hype than octagon tbh
im sure you hear this time and again, but man it cannot be emphasized enough that that dashdancing is a work of art. like, put-it-right-next-to-the-mona-lisa work of art.
"I am fast fall" - PPMD, 2021
This was so wholesome, would love to see some collabs with Cody
God i love cody and cody’s interaction with you and also you
I love everything about this video
love the mindset from both players also really glad ibdw came up in the top players super cool dude much deserved
Bro you really could compete again
2021 and it’s like riding a bike. Still as smooth as ever.
When I first started playing Melee, the best piece of advice I received was "don't wait until you are "ready" to go to your first tournament. Because no matter how ready you think you are, you're still gonna get wrecked". I think you need to consider that PP. I think there is only so much training you can do on your own. At some point, you probably have to start looking to go to tournaments in order to continue getting better. Obviously only go when you think the time is right, but I think Cody's advice is something you should take to heart.
Wonderful comment here. :) Something to remember though is that PP isn't training at all and hasn't in a long time. The Melee is primarily for stream comment, and he wants to build his physical stamina and mental sharpness back to start playing more seriously.
But even the stuff he's doing now is progress. And people enjoy seeing him hold his own against modern talent. :D
I still remember when PP replied to my reddit comment, the DR is a legend love to see these uploads!
PP's dashdances are always mesmerizing
PPMD let's IBDW win so Mango can't talk trash, so PPMD can gain friend points and can learn new strategies. Meta beyond the game...
2:15 PPMD taking this opportunity to practice his Wolf O'Donnell impression.
what a wholesome video, you love to see it
Dude that was like a modern PP tournament set! Holy fuck! So glad this happened!! PP might not be tho lol
I believe in you doc
When PP and IBDW started talking and practicing scenarios it reminded me HOW truly insane these guys are at this game.
1:48 to 1:52.... pp with the come back off stage
From one perfectionist with health conditions to another perfectionist with health conditions, take other people's compliments to heart, celebrate small victories, and be grateful for progress forward :).
Seeing that GunZ tag brings me back.
Watching PPs marth reminds me on why I main blue Marth. I want to see this man come back to competing. Shit who knows, maybe he’ll end up bringing back another god too. I just love PP man. Clean ass marth
2:40 one of the funnier lasers i’ve seen this year
Title had me so hype: did he really play IBDW?? Was it really on accident??!? Did they ACTUALLY play fox/Marth?!?!??
pogged outta my mind that first game ngl
I don't give myself enough credits... I totally recognize myself in that. I understand you PPMD.
c o n t e n t
Is this just 2 PP mods lmao?
@@northernlionquotes Exodia is banned
BANNED I SAY
This was super cool
Damn what a wholesome video
niiiiicceeeee pp. I kinda got annoyed for ibdw putting you in that situation but I’m glad it worked out and maybe even inspired greater confidence.
OH MY GOD!!!
Ce que j'ai retenu de la vidéo
Oh mince
If I ever end up off stage vs cody as marth I'm just gonna fastfall to the blast zone. I would never recover anyway.
PPs recovery the first game was insane
Not the biggest pp fan but seeing you play today really wants me to see you comeback.
How can anyone not be a PP fan?
Game 4 was crazy dang
We're witnessing history being made here gentleman and ladies
I never popped off so hard in my life lmaooo
PP. I watched the whole video, so wholesome
Waiting for the surprise episode of melee where you come back brother...
miss ya and hope you're doing well!
all love!
GETTEM, PP
5:25 never seen this dair in my life
PP is just the single most likable person on earth. Glad to see he is still kicking ass!
wow you are extremely good, i have 0 doubt you can come back and be a top player again
Even if PP just attended locals for the foreseeable future, I'd still be happy to see him compete again
this was the best moment
damn cody got salty as fuck after game 1 huh. kinda weird to guilt pp into playing when he wanted to be done after game 1 but i guess he wanted to play a set. i think these games showed that pp still holds up and if he came back in full force and started implementing new things and modernizing his punish he could aim for mango and zain's spots if he wanted to.
Cody's sdi is crazy
Sick games.
LOWKEY, cody being afraid of mango shitting on him ended up making them play a set in which mango will maybe notice pp isn't someone he can just shit on for not shield dropping. it made cody feel better about getting meme'd on, and their conversation/the gameplay makes it apparent that pp is a fucking amazing player CURRENTLY.
That was an amazing set lmao
IBDW is such homie
sick
Pp was my fav player back then , I’d be excited if he made top 8 in today .
what textures are you using? why do your characters look so bright? it looks great and i would like to use it
He either won or it was last hit, last stock. Pp just chilling is so close to prime fighting form top player status, holy crap
PP!!!!!!
PPMD is easily on the level to outneutral IBDW and most other top players. His edgeguarding and punish routes are sus in today's meta but not by much. Always a treat to watch him play. I Wish he had more confidence in his abilities because i cant help but feel he is too hard on himself when he plays top players
PP what happens when become anime reaches 1000 please I need to know
Youre in one of those states where you think youre a lot worse, but you also know youre not and its your mentality, but also you cant break the mentality. I feel it
Omggg that was sickkk
There's nothing more IBDW than him joining your chat and Johning it up after he lost.
I don't think he was johning I think he just wanted the runback
Kevin. If you can have a stock lead and game wins against one of the best players in the world, with practice, patience, dedication, and most importantly heart, you can give these kids a run for their money. Like Cody said, you aren't far off.
You still got it pPmD.