Pol Pot Interview - Part 2 - Khmer Rouge Documentary

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  • Pol Pot Interview - Part 2 - Khmer Rouge Documentary

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  • @rphworld88
    @rphworld88 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People looking for translation... this is not verbatim, but my attempt at summarizing what he said.
    The first part of the interview was mostly about his health. He said that he is in poor health. He suffered what seems like a stroke which affected his vision, he is almost (95%) blind. Half of his body is numb. He said he was working too hard and his congenital heart problem caused the stroke. It seemed he also had pulmonary embolism. He has pains in the chest and head. He cannot tolerate cold, even some cold water on his skin. Then he talked about about his home arrest. He was not allowed to move around. He does not have much freedom. When pointed out that some people think he fled the country already, he said that other country have their own security system which will be difficult for him to cross the border. Besides, he doesn't want to leave the country anyway. He wants to be with his own people. He was 71 at the time of the interview, which he said that according to international standard, he was not really old. But because of his poor health and he's under house arrest, he is very frail. He does get his medications.
    The second part of the interview started with warnings to Cambodians to not allow Cambodia to turn into Kampuchea Krom (this is the part of southern Vietnam that was taken from Cambodia. It is a big chunk of land stretching from the current border with Cambodia all the way to and beyond Saigon). He said he worked with Vietnamese a lot and know exactly what they are up to. He said majority of ordinary Vietnamese are good people, but their leaders and spies have ulterior motives. They have a plot to take over Cambodia, like how they took over Kampuchea Krom. He can recall the name of the Vietnamese leaders that he had worked with while in power. He said that they hated him because he was in the way of their plot. Every time, they would tell you one thing, but behind your back they will do the opposite, like carry out border skirmishes. Then they blamed him for causing the skirmishes. He said that as a new fledging country, he knows his weaknesses in terms of resources such as man power and weapons. His country just want to live in peace, why would he carry border skirmishes and cause a war with Vietnam.
    He said they were doing it (trying to take over Cambodia) before and even now. They still have the same policy of trying to take over Indochina (Cambodia and Laos) by installing puppet government (People's party) of the respective countries. They do this under the name of self defence. They have a large population (over 70 million at the time) and needed space for them. He used the French word "espace vitale", which I think it means vital living space. He said, what about Cambodian people ? If you take over our country, where are we going to live ?
    At one point, he was in tears and barely can talk as he mutters out of breath, "Don't let Vietnamese take over Cambodia... without land and water, how are the Khmer people going to survive ? any Khmer". "I want to tell everyone, even if I die, it's ok, just as long as Vietnamese don't take over Cambodian land." Right now, they already take over Laos, based on their Plot 577, no need border between Laos and Vietnam, Common Friendship. He said he went to the Vietnamese side and proposed border peace treaty with them, they didn't answer him. That was in 1975. Instead, they (the Vietnamese) keep carrying out border skirmishes. It's like they stabbed him in the chest. I am a responsible person, people take over our border is one thing but what about our people who won't have "land and fish". When the Vietnamese overthrew Republic Democratic Cambodia (official name of Khmer Rouge) in 1978, they already have a plan in place. It wasn't Hun Sen, Chea Sim as leaders. It was other people who will be installed. His name was Sophon. But after Hun Sen and Chea Sim escaped to Vietnam, the Vietnamese installed them as leaders instead. When they took over Phnom Penh on Jan 7, 1979, they organized this People's Party (formerly People's Revolutionary Party). Heng Somren became the leader of the party and Hun Sen became the foreign minister until now. Their plot has not changed.
    The interviewer asked him now that Vietnam is in ASEAN, can they still carry out their conspiracy plot (of taking over Cambodia) ? He replied that they have new ways of carrying out their plot. Not using military, but using Cambodians to attack each other. Now Cambodians are splintered into so many different parties such as Sam Rainsy, Funcipec etc... but on the Vietnamese side, there is only Hun Sen. Even when the prince (Norodom Ranarith) won the election, Hun Sen orchestrated a coup d'etat and blamed the cause on Ranarith. They know they have the strength of the Vietnamese behind them. The Vietnamese do elicit business with the current government (logging, opium, contraband) and these money were used to benefit the People's Party. They also use the money to "buy" and divide the people from other parties. This is the reality. I am shedding my tears as I understand that Khmers do not like it when Vietnamese swallow up Cambodian lands, secondly, Cambodian people do not like Hun Sen and the People's Party. They just say it that they like them. But if there is a real democratic election like in France, USA, Australia, the People's Party won't even get 10%.
    The interviewer asked him, "If i'm not mistaken what you said is, Hun Sen will do anything to win in every election, he will make border with Vietnam porous (let Vietnamese people pour into Cambodia).." He said that the border is already opened. He recalled one example where Vietnamese were dismantling villager's home near the border. People asked the military to investigate if that's true, to which Hun Sen said, bring a coffin along when you come. He said that along the eastern border with Vietnam, everything is burned down, the people are suffering. He said Cambodian people are in agony (psychologically). But how to sort out the situation?
    The Vietnamese are trying to break us up from the bottom and from the top. From the bottom, they are still trying but they cannot do it overtly now as the international opinion is against war. From the top, there is international support. But even with that support, they still have their way. Shortly after the prince left, one of his lieutenant was shot dead. You asked me, now that Cambodia is already in ASEAN. That does not make any difference. On the surface, it's just Khmer and Khmer conflict, internal affairs. The People's Party win, based on military strength not by the ballot. Behind their back is the Vietnamese, behind the curtain. So they're not afraid of ASEAN. There is some ideas that after entry into ASEAN, ASEAN can suppress them. No. That's not the case as they don't do it directly. They let Khmers, the People's Party, do the work. Therefore ASEAN cannot touch the issue. Then they use the term "No interference in other country's internal affairs". That's why Hun Sen can say that. ASEAN will have no choice but to say that we're not interfering, just helping. I am away from politic for awhile, but I listen to news. In my opinion, we have to solve the issues from the bottom, even if it's a little, try to solve the issues. By the bottom, I mean normal people. Like in the case of porous border, for people to complain, and low level conflict, with weapon, but not to create a war. The Vietnamese have their border guards from the other side. But our side has nothing.
    Note that at this point, the interview was cut. There is message missing.
    ... we need ASEAN, UN, friendly countries. (I assume he was talking about to resolve the issue from the top). He went on to say that we need the combination of these two strategies, to work in complement with each other, with Cambodians and the international communities, to resolve the issue (encroachment from Vietnam). This is my thinking, only my thinking. I'm not a psychic. For the sake of survival of Khmers. For the sake of Khmer not losing land. If we lose our land, where are we going to live ?
    And why would I run away from my country ? I will die with my people. I'm not going anywhere. Thank you.

  • @saysovannsar322
    @saysovannsar322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    តើកូនខ្មែរប៉ុន្មាននាក់បានស្តាប់សំដី ប៉ុល ពត នៅពេលនេះ?

  • @phanna8498
    @phanna8498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ត្រូវមែន លោកអ៊ំ

  • @rhgfhg2574
    @rhgfhg2574 ปีที่แล้ว

    លោកតានិយាយត្រូវ

  • @user-sk2bc2kq7b
    @user-sk2bc2kq7b ปีที่แล้ว +1

    หลับให้สบายนะพลพจน์ท่านคงเหนื่อยมามากแล้วทำงานหนักมาทั้งชีวิตอย่างน้อยท่านก็ทำให้เราเห็นว่าระบบนารวมทำได้จริงๆไม่มีผู้นำประเทศไหนทำได้เป็นประเทศแรกและประเทศเดียวในโลกจากสหายดาวแรงประเทศลาว

  • @aledero
    @aledero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Translation, please

    • @rphworld88
      @rphworld88 ปีที่แล้ว

      translation above

  • @user-xl6eq3hp6s
    @user-xl6eq3hp6s ปีที่แล้ว

    សុំទោសខ្ញុំអត់យល់់ ដោយសារខ្ញុំជាក្មេងជំនាន់ក្រោយ តាមស្តាប់ប្រសាសន៏គាត់ក្នុងបទសម្ភាសនេះគឺមានន័យថាគាត់ជាអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិខ្លាំងណាស់ តែហេតុអីបានជាក្នុងរបបរបស់គាត់គ្រប់គ្រងបែជាសម្លាប់ប្រជាជនខ្មែរអស់រាប់លានជិតផុតពូជខ្មែចឹង តើមានន័យម៉េចវិញ។

  • @hemsophat4405
    @hemsophat4405 ปีที่แล้ว

    ពាក្យសំដីថា ស្រឡាញ់ជាតិ ប៉ុន្តែបានអំណាចដឹកនាំថ្នាក់កំពូល ដាក់ផែនការឲ្យថ្នាក់បន្ទាប់ ប្រមូលបញ្ញវន្តដាក់គុកច្រវាក់ ធ្វើទុក្ខទារុណកម្ម, បំផ្លាញខឿនវប្បធម៌ខ្មែរ រាបដល់ថី, បោកប្រាស់បញ្ញវន្ត ក្រៅប្រទេសយកមកសម្លាប់ផ្ដាច់ពូជ។ អារម្មណ៍ល្អចំពោះទង្វើ មហាលោតផ្លោះ ឃោរឃៅព្រៃផ្សៃ អមនុស្សធម៌, ក្រុមទមិឡអន្យតិរ្ថិយនេះ ឆ្កួតនឹងមនោគមន៍វិជ្ជា,ឆ្កួតនយោបាយ។

  • @eiso9063
    @eiso9063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pol Pot , Lon Nol ឈ្មោះពីម៉ាត់។ ជីវិត ពាក្យពីម៉ាត់ដែល។

    • @user-hr2oo3bj2t
      @user-hr2oo3bj2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ប៉ុល ពតឈ្មោះពិតសាទ្បុតស។

  • @nangyalaiorakzai3363
    @nangyalaiorakzai3363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where the hell is the translation ????
    The world doesn't speak cambodianese

    • @derrickkhut9516
      @derrickkhut9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is Khmer. No such thing Cambodianese

    • @nangyalaiorakzai3363
      @nangyalaiorakzai3363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derrickkhut9516 then u translate it plz for us ?????

    • @derrickkhut9516
      @derrickkhut9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nangyalaiorakzai3363 when all of this unfold, I was about 2 years old he pretty much down play the whole massacre during his reign. he states that wasn’t his intention to starve and killed millions.

    • @nangyalaiorakzai3363
      @nangyalaiorakzai3363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derrickkhut9516 He killed maimed starved injured deprived millions and he says it wasn't his intention
      He shouldn't be believed or trusted

    • @derrickkhut9516
      @derrickkhut9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nangyalaiorakzai3363 I lived and survived his ideal.. hope he burn in hell

  • @chhounhanfa4419
    @chhounhanfa4419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    អ្នកស្នេហាជាតិពិតដូចជាគាត់ពិបាករកណាស់នៅសព្វថ្ងៃនេះដោយមានឆន្ទះខ្ពស់ក្នុងស្មារតីស្មោះត្រង់នឹងស្នេហាជាតិ ក្នុងនាមខ្ញុំជាបញ្ញាវ័នជំនាន់ក្រោយសូមអរគុណចំពោះទឹកចិត្តភក្តីខ្ពស់របស់លោកនឹងប្រឹងប្រែងរៀនសូត្រដើម្បីជួយរំដោះកម្ពុជាពីចង្កូមសត្វយួនជាជាតិចង្រៃ

  • @likaasakun3858
    @likaasakun3858 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pol pot died

  • @tonseth4996
    @tonseth4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ឈឺចាបណាស់អ្នកស្នេហាជាតិបែមានឈ្មោះជាជនក្បតជាតិ

  • @lyluongphann8752
    @lyluongphann8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    យួនអាក្រក់តែសម្លាប់ខ្មែរអានរក100ជាន់ឯងងាប់កុំឲចាប់ជាតិមកធ្វើបាបខ្មែរទៀត

    • @pridabryson1305
      @pridabryson1305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      អានរក់ នេះចេះនិយាយ ដូចមនុស្សចិត្តខ្មៅដូចប្រែត សំលាប់ខ្មែរអស់រាប់មុឺន យ៉ាងវេទនារ សុំឨយអាហអ្ហែង កើតជាប្រែតរហូត ត ទៅ

    • @johnthereach2139
      @johnthereach2139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was one of the worst leader in the history.

  • @likaasakun3858
    @likaasakun3858 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pol pot died

  • @lyluongphann8752
    @lyluongphann8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    សម្លាប់ម៉ែឨវាងាប់អស់ហើយសរសើរអាពតឆ្លាតទៀត

    • @user-hr2oo3bj2t
      @user-hr2oo3bj2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ល្បិចយួុនជ្រៅម៉ែនធ្វើឱ្យខ្មែរឆ្កួុតអស់...។ខ្មែរគ្មានឆ្ងល់សោះហេតុអ្វីគេមិនឱ្យរៀនប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តព្រោះខ្លាចខ្មែរដឹងថារឿងអាក្រក់នៅខ្មែរយួុនជាអ្នកធ្វើទាំងអស់។ប៉ុល ពតចាញ់ល្បិចយួុនទេកុំជាគាត់គួុរតែរៀនពីប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តខ្មែរសិនទៅ។

    • @user-hr2oo3bj2t
      @user-hr2oo3bj2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ល្បិចយួុនជ្រៅម៉ែនធ្វើឱ្យខ្មែរឆ្កួុតអស់...។ខ្មែរគ្មានឆ្ងល់សោះហេតុអ្វីគេមិនឱ្យរៀនប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តព្រោះខ្លាចខ្មែរដឹងថារឿងអាក្រក់នៅខ្មែរយួុនជាអ្នកធ្វើទាំងអស់។ប៉ុល ពតចាញ់ល្បិចយួុនទេកុំជាគាត់គួុរតែរៀនពីប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តខ្មែរសិនទៅ។

    • @user-hr2oo3bj2t
      @user-hr2oo3bj2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ល្បិចយួុនយកខ្មែរវាយខ្មែរឱ្យអ្នកនយោបាយវាយគ្នា។