Fantastic driving the car sounds superb, love your power slides you must have nerves of steel and know your car very well.The way you caught 1st and 2nd car and passed them was a lesson in good overtaking technique.
Great braking top drive. I remember watching the Ansett Elfins at AIR. Huge crowds brilliant racing and the best noise. What happened? Motor racing has become so boring. Classic Racing is the best. Long live F 5000!
Well, I remember them fondly too. There were three problems with F5000. The first was that after the 1970s, the rest of the world gave up on them. They were absorbed into CanAm in the United States and abandoned in the UK. The big manufacturers like Lola, Chevron and McLaren stopped building them. With the rise of ground effects in the late 1970s, the cars started looking old. There was only ever one true ground effect F5000 and I'm sure you remember it: the Elfin MR-9. Once ground effects became a thing, they really needed to be tested in wind tunnels and that was expensive. The second problem was the Australian audience. They couldn't have given a flying fuck about F5000 because they were totally absorbed by touring cars and all the hoopla and banality that went with it. As a result, sponsorship fell off. It had been going that way for a long time anyway. In the mid-70s, touring car racing was attracting sponsorship from major manufacturers like cigarette companies with near-bottomless pockets, to airlines. The F5000s, with the exception of a few teams like Ansett Team Elfin, were mostly privateers on small budgets and the reliability of these things was not good so the budgets got stretched further than they should have. Their major series sponsor was a shirt manufacturer... Finally, they could not attract high profile drivers like Peter Brock. I know this sounds completely stupid because they had internationals like Alan Jones, Vern Schuppan, Peter Gethin, Graeme McRae, Teddy Pilette, Lella Lombardi and Guy Edwards. The locals like Kevin Bartlett, Warwick Brown, Max Stewart, Johnny Walker, John McCormack and Alfredo Costanzo had zero standing with the crowd. I could never fathom it. They even attracted F1 cars with people like David Kennedy and Geoff Lees. The local audiences responded with a resounding yawn. They couldn't give a fuck because now they only cared about the Torana A9-X and the Ford Falcon GT... :facepalm: I think probably the biggest single factor was reliability. These old things would start with a grid of 20 and finish with 5, much lower than a fleet of touring cars. The cost of rebuilding them was high. I remember seeing the crankcase from Vern Schuppan's Elfin after the engine threw a rod right in front of me at Sandown. It had a hole in the side you could put your fist into. They seem a lot more reliable now. The Arco-Graphite series, which was won by a deserving Jon Wright, was the last gasp, after which it was replaced by Formula Pacific/Atlantic/Modial. It was a good move which attracted some genuine hotshoes like Andrew Miedecke, John Smith, John Bowe and Bruce Allison, not to mention the internationals who came here for the 1981 and '82 Australian Grands Prix but Australians continued to ignore open wheel racing and still do. If there are no V8 Supercars at the Australian Grand Prix, the attendance figures plummet.
Class of the field Tom and great to see a 5000 driven like one should be driven. Great lines everywhere especially turn 2 and lovely to see apexes clipped just where an ex FF guy should. Insanely jealous though, I dream of driving one!
I grew up at Warwick Farm Track in the mid 60,s until it closed, these were beautifull cars. Allways imaculate and in the early 80,s were worth $25,000 with spares. But in 81 GTHO Falcons were 30K.
Go On, give me a go...I would sell my mother to drive open wheel pre 90's open wheel and or NASCAR..."love this footage", until then I'm stuck with Forza 7. "Fantastic Stuff" Thankyou for sharing. Cheers
Excellent vid! - great drive to work through the field and win this race. I notice there is no double-clutching down shifting - that makes me wonder if there is no time or need so must be a pretty high tech gearbox or is it standard. Love this track Sydney Motorsport Park. Am wondering what the time difference is between a V8 Supercar with say Jamie Whincup at the wheel and this car over a lap. And I would love to see Whincup pilot a Formula 5000 too. Would have loved to have seen Formula 5000's race at Mt Panorama/Bathurst.
Reminds me of Days of Thunder. Everyone seems to be lapping/driving slower and this guy was at racing speed. Like it felt this driver was more hungry to win than the others.
Wish I could get into F5000. I’d do anything to get into open wheel racing. I’m not rich though. I don’t have the money to spend on a 150 to 200 thousand dollar car. Then all the upkeep and maintenance. Plus crew and support.
@@thethirdman225 New Zealand documentary on three Kiwis at the top of their game .!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hulme & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001
My favorite open wheel cars of all time. And I'm from Indianapolis. Glad to see someone who can actually drive one of these beasts.
Always thought they were cool growing up got my sim rig a couple years ago and fell in love on another level.
Having a nostalgic look at a race I watched on You Tube about 7 years ago, just as thrilling to see again now. Brilliant job Tom!
To this day- still the most bad ass race cars every built!
Great driving and a great video. I remember seeing several F5000 races in the 1970's and they were thrilling.
Great car control. Steering with the rear as much as the front. Awesome.
Awesome. Thank you
A lot of straightaway heroes there!
@@mtl-ss1538 Oh for sure in pro racing, but in that race, there are some guys allergic to carrying speed through turns.
Fantastic driving the car sounds superb, love your power slides you must have nerves of steel and know your car very well.The way you caught 1st and 2nd car and passed them was a lesson in good overtaking technique.
That's quite the drive, Tom. Well done.
Great job! On behalf of RaceCarLocators we have to say BRAVO TOM !!
Great braking top drive. I remember watching the Ansett Elfins at AIR. Huge crowds brilliant racing and the best noise. What happened? Motor racing has become so boring. Classic Racing is the best. Long live F 5000!
Well, I remember them fondly too. There were three problems with F5000. The first was that after the 1970s, the rest of the world gave up on them. They were absorbed into CanAm in the United States and abandoned in the UK. The big manufacturers like Lola, Chevron and McLaren stopped building them. With the rise of ground effects in the late 1970s, the cars started looking old. There was only ever one true ground effect F5000 and I'm sure you remember it: the Elfin MR-9. Once ground effects became a thing, they really needed to be tested in wind tunnels and that was expensive.
The second problem was the Australian audience. They couldn't have given a flying fuck about F5000 because they were totally absorbed by touring cars and all the hoopla and banality that went with it. As a result, sponsorship fell off. It had been going that way for a long time anyway. In the mid-70s, touring car racing was attracting sponsorship from major manufacturers like cigarette companies with near-bottomless pockets, to airlines. The F5000s, with the exception of a few teams like Ansett Team Elfin, were mostly privateers on small budgets and the reliability of these things was not good so the budgets got stretched further than they should have. Their major series sponsor was a shirt manufacturer...
Finally, they could not attract high profile drivers like Peter Brock. I know this sounds completely stupid because they had internationals like Alan Jones, Vern Schuppan, Peter Gethin, Graeme McRae, Teddy Pilette, Lella Lombardi and Guy Edwards. The locals like Kevin Bartlett, Warwick Brown, Max Stewart, Johnny Walker, John McCormack and Alfredo Costanzo had zero standing with the crowd. I could never fathom it. They even attracted F1 cars with people like David Kennedy and Geoff Lees. The local audiences responded with a resounding yawn. They couldn't give a fuck because now they only cared about the Torana A9-X and the Ford Falcon GT... :facepalm:
I think probably the biggest single factor was reliability. These old things would start with a grid of 20 and finish with 5, much lower than a fleet of touring cars. The cost of rebuilding them was high. I remember seeing the crankcase from Vern Schuppan's Elfin after the engine threw a rod right in front of me at Sandown. It had a hole in the side you could put your fist into. They seem a lot more reliable now.
The Arco-Graphite series, which was won by a deserving Jon Wright, was the last gasp, after which it was replaced by Formula Pacific/Atlantic/Modial. It was a good move which attracted some genuine hotshoes like Andrew Miedecke, John Smith, John Bowe and Bruce Allison, not to mention the internationals who came here for the 1981 and '82 Australian Grands Prix but Australians continued to ignore open wheel racing and still do. If there are no V8 Supercars at the Australian Grand Prix, the attendance figures plummet.
Controlled insanity . . . love it
Class of the field Tom and great to see a 5000 driven like one should be driven. Great lines everywhere especially turn 2 and lovely to see apexes clipped just where an ex FF guy should. Insanely jealous though, I dream of driving one!
I grew up at Warwick Farm Track in the mid 60,s until it closed, these were beautifull cars. Allways imaculate and in the early 80,s were worth $25,000 with spares. But in 81 GTHO Falcons were 30K.
Thanks guys!
Go On, give me a go...I would sell my mother to drive open wheel pre 90's open wheel and or NASCAR..."love this footage", until then I'm stuck with Forza 7. "Fantastic Stuff"
Thankyou for sharing.
Cheers
Just came across you video. Great drive.
I love the first corner... very high speed corner...
Excellent vid! - great drive to work through the field and win this race. I notice there is no double-clutching down shifting - that makes me wonder if there is no time or need so must be a pretty high tech gearbox or is it standard. Love this track Sydney Motorsport Park. Am wondering what the time difference is between a V8 Supercar with say Jamie Whincup at the wheel and this car over a lap. And I would love to see Whincup pilot a Formula 5000 too. Would have loved to have seen Formula 5000's race at Mt Panorama/Bathurst.
nice driving
Nice drive, but where are the corner workers, flags, safety and rescue staff, etc?
Reminds me of Days of Thunder. Everyone seems to be lapping/driving slower and this guy was at racing speed. Like it felt this driver was more hungry to win than the others.
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Great driving!
Sweat! That thing sure handles good down the straight! LOL.
ball of steel and then some what a weapon to drive
Whoaah nice !!!!!!!
Good shit
Geeez
awesome
Wow good drive! looks like an ex VDS Chevron B24?
Either that or the VDS T430. 430 ran with full width nose like the chevron and narrow nose as well. Both ran this colour scheme back then of course.
It's a B24, Tom is quite a regular at F5000 races in Australia
Thanks Andrew, correct ... it's ex VDS Chevron B24/28, Chassis no 7. Full history is at www.oldracingcars.com/chevron/b24/
Yes indeed.
I’m from Bolton and my good friend built that car !
Wish I could get into F5000. I’d do anything to get into open wheel racing. I’m not rich though. I don’t have the money to spend on a 150 to 200 thousand dollar car. Then all the upkeep and maintenance. Plus crew and support.
I don't have the talent.
@@thethirdman225 New Zealand documentary on three Kiwis at the top of their game .!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hulme & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001
You can buy a superkart for at least $15,000 and those little machine are serious businesses
Anyway you just need sponsorship