I own a bursa thunder and a thunder plus. I have learned a littlec trick. When loadi5a fresh magazine Into firearm slap the bottom firmly to seat the magazine. The shock will bounce the slide free. Loading the first round into battery.
Great video on an excellent firearm! I've owned my Thunder .380 for 20+ years now, and cannot remember ever having a FTF or FTE, of any kind. *And I have fired and carried this great little pistol a LOT!* One thing you may not know (since you didnt mention it) is: when the slide is locked back on an empty mag, if you 'slam home' a fresh mag with enough force, the slide will automatically chamber a round, thus getting you 'back into the fight' that much faster. *The gun is NOT broken!* That is an 'old school' feature (just like the 'dead trigger' safety you *did* mention, and a feature I love, btw) that was present on a lot of 'European-designed' handguns, back in the day. I think a few old Berettas had this feature, as well-- Which was the root company the original Bersa tooling & engineers came from, if I remember right...
Great video! Mine has functioned as advertised for over a decade now. I love it. Loved the Bond piece. His original weapon, in the books, was a .25 auto by the way and the Walther he switched to was .32 acp. The .380 PPK/s was in most of the movies as I recall. The last movie I saw he had the full sized Walther 9 mil. Terrific advances in technology for him what?
Excellent video. I’ve had this gun in my collection for many years. Very easy and accurate to shoot. No misfires until the original magazine’s spring became weak. Contacted Bersa and ordered new mags. Problem solved. This is a smaller caliber but one of my favorites. Thank you for your video
My first gun I ever bought. Was a great shooter. Easy to conceal carry. Felt good in my hand. Now Bersa has come up with the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus. Slightly larger gun as it now takes 15 round mags. Also feels good in my hand. One of my main carry guns.
I have had good luck with mine so far. Put a lot of rounds through it of all brands and types. Up to 40 feet it's very accurate (beyond 40 I don't know, the indoor range I go to maxes at 40). Not much recoil, good trigger, good grip, fires well on single or double action, decent sights, and easy field strip. It's a bit of a cleaning job, it got the name "dirty Argentine" I guess from that, but it's a small trade off for it's price. With a good self-defense .380 round it will do what it needs to do. If you're dicey on carrying a semi single action cocked and locked (I am. What can I say? I'm a big Murphy's Law person) you'll like the decocker feature. Even with safety off, having it chambered and set to double on that first pull will make you less dicey. If you got it decocked for double, safety on, and still dicey, don't carry a gun.
I’ll be checking this out for my father, he’s always wanted a PPK, my grandfather had one but my uncle inherited it. This seems like a great option also considering we’ve got larger hands and he’s tired of buying 9mm
Tired of buying 9mm? A more powerful round that's cheaper and more available and more widely accepted across the globe is somehow a problem? Don't get me wrong I have .380s for good reason. Tired of buying 9mm is not one of them.
Only bad feature other than the silly lock feature. (Put that key in the box and forget it's there), is the magazine safety. Good news is, it's easy to deactivate making it a viable self-defense gun. I originally bought the Bersa Plus model with the higher capacity and on the second magazine in the gun the mag safety came apart and locked up the gun, making it useless. That's the (only) thing a mag safety is good for, (trouble). Took it back to my dealer and he traded it for the single stack model which still has a mag safety, but it is very easy to do away with on the single stack model. Hard to get rid of it on the double stack, plus model. Other than that, I love my Bersa. Very good feeling and shooting gun.
Hello just to update a little the characteristics of this weapon to date. Here in Argentina, the Bersas Factory, already for years ago this model of Bersa Thunder 380 ACP was updated to two models of the same characteristics and materials in general but with the update that their loaders are 15 ammunition and load two loaders per box. These models are Bersa Thunder Combat Plus and Bersa Thunder Plus .. It should be added that the firm also has a load extensor with which the chargers are left with 18 ammunition plus one in total bedroom 19 ammunition. A fire power that neither Sir Sean Cornery could have dream. Between the two new models the only difference is the rise The fight brings a Glock type horseshoe and the plus brings an adjustable rise as the model you show. Greetings and I hope you enjoy this weapon. Hola Solo para actualizar un poco las caracteristicas de esta arma a la fecha. Aqui en Argentina lugar de fabrica de las BERSAS, ya hace un para de años se actualizo este modelo de Bersa Thunder 380 ACP a dos modelos de iguales caracteristicas y materiales en general pero con la actualizacion de que sus cargadores son de 15 municiones y cargan dos cargadores por caja. Esos modelos son BERSA Thunder Combat Plus y Bersa Thunder Plus.. Cabe agregar que la firma tambien cuenta con un extensor de carga con lo cual los cargadores quedan con 18 municiones mas uno en recamara total 19 municiones. Un poder de fuego que ni el mismo Sir Sean Cornery habria podido soñar. Entre los dos modelos nuevos la unica diferencia es el alza la Combat trae un alza herradura tipo Glock y la Plus trae un alza regulable como el modelo que muestras. Un saludo y espero disfruteis de esta arma.
Not a fan of the thunder. Mine had a bad slide. Notch wore out. Got a new slide. Gun never did work very well. Lost all confidence and sold it for a loss.
Why do I sometimes hear and see in advertisements that the Bersa Thunder .380 has a 7 round magazine and other times it's described as having an 8 round magazine?
Bersa makes an 8 round flush fit magazine for the Thunder 380. Mine came brand new with a factory 8 round mag. Bersa is slowly phasing out the 7 round mags and replacing them with the 8 round mags.
@@1791GunleatherI have a question sir I am a older person new to guns got my ccw permits on a 22 is this gun good for a new shooter a beginner?is the slide easy to rack?
@ScottWiecenski actually if you look closely his magazine is also an 8 round. The thunder usually is offered with 8rd mag. The firestorm which is a similar gun intended for the CALIFORNIA market comes with 7rd mag.
Direct blowback with fixed barrel has a sharper recoil. All the recoil energy is felt when the round goes off and the slide racks back. On a tilting barrel you feel the round go off, the slide starts to move, the barrel tilts, then the slide racks back. There's at least one more moving part to dissipate the recoil energy with a tilting barrel. You aren't changing the feeling of the round going off much because there's no gas being bled off but you are changing the way the gun feels when it cycles.
What happens when you rack the slide with the safety on? When you release the slide release, does the safety/decocker stay on? Does it decock the gun then go unsafe. I have a friends Bersa that is decocking and releasing the safety when the slide release is used.
What is supposed to happen is the first round loads into battery while the safety allows the hammer to fall with out a discharge. Safety bar was dropped so it can't discharge.
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I own a bursa thunder and a thunder plus. I have learned a littlec trick. When loadi5a fresh magazine Into firearm slap the bottom firmly to seat the magazine. The shock will bounce the slide free. Loading the first round into battery.
Great video on an excellent firearm! I've owned my Thunder .380 for 20+ years now, and cannot remember ever having a FTF or FTE, of any kind. *And I have fired and carried this great little pistol a LOT!*
One thing you may not know (since you didnt mention it) is: when the slide is locked back on an empty mag, if you 'slam home' a fresh mag with enough force, the slide will automatically chamber a round, thus getting you 'back into the fight' that much faster.
*The gun is NOT broken!* That is an 'old school' feature (just like the 'dead trigger' safety you *did* mention, and a feature I love, btw) that was present on a lot of 'European-designed' handguns, back in the day. I think a few old Berettas had this feature, as well-- Which was the root company the original Bersa tooling & engineers came from, if I remember right...
I just bought one a few months ago and first took it to the range and fired it with no oil and it functioned perfectly and was surprisingly accurate.
@@nickmoore8108 It's a good gun because it'll probably be there when you need it
Great video! Mine has functioned as advertised for over a decade now. I love it. Loved the Bond piece. His original weapon, in the books, was a .25 auto by the way and the Walther he switched to was .32 acp. The .380 PPK/s was in most of the movies as I recall. The last movie I saw he had the full sized Walther 9 mil. Terrific advances in technology for him what?
Excellent video. I’ve had this gun in my collection for many years. Very easy and accurate to shoot. No misfires until the original magazine’s spring became weak. Contacted Bersa and ordered new mags.
Problem solved. This is a smaller caliber but one of my favorites. Thank you for your video
My first gun I ever bought. Was a great shooter. Easy to conceal carry. Felt good in my hand. Now Bersa has come up with the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus. Slightly larger gun as it now takes 15 round mags. Also feels good in my hand. One of my main carry guns.
La bersa 380 plus tiene el doble de capacidad es aún mejor😊
I have had good luck with mine so far. Put a lot of rounds through it of all brands and types. Up to 40 feet it's very accurate (beyond 40 I don't know, the indoor range I go to maxes at 40). Not much recoil, good trigger, good grip, fires well on single or double action, decent sights, and easy field strip. It's a bit of a cleaning job, it got the name "dirty Argentine" I guess from that, but it's a small trade off for it's price. With a good self-defense .380 round it will do what it needs to do. If you're dicey on carrying a semi single action cocked and locked (I am. What can I say? I'm a big Murphy's Law person) you'll like the decocker feature. Even with safety off, having it chambered and set to double on that first pull will make you less dicey. If you got it decocked for double, safety on, and still dicey, don't carry a gun.
How is the Bersa 380 at handling plus p+ ammo , I am considering buying a Bersa 380 thunder CC instead of a Glock 380. Thank you for your comments.
@@Ray-vq2jc.380 +P= 9mm 🔫😎👍🏻
@@melissasmess2773 I would not fire +p ammo in a micro 380 like a LCP because its too much power and may crack the frame.
muy buena !!
I’ll be checking this out for my father, he’s always wanted a PPK, my grandfather had one but my uncle inherited it. This seems like a great option also considering we’ve got larger hands and he’s tired of buying 9mm
Tired of buying 9mm? A more powerful round that's cheaper and more available and more widely accepted across the globe is somehow a problem? Don't get me wrong I have .380s for good reason. Tired of buying 9mm is not one of them.
Only bad feature other than the silly lock feature. (Put that key in the box and forget it's there), is the magazine safety. Good news is, it's easy to deactivate making it a viable self-defense gun. I originally bought the Bersa Plus model with the higher capacity and on the second magazine in the gun the mag safety came apart and locked up the gun, making it useless. That's the (only) thing a mag safety is good for, (trouble). Took it back to my dealer and he traded it for the single stack model which still has a mag safety, but it is very easy to do away with on the single stack model. Hard to get rid of it on the double stack, plus model. Other than that, I love my Bersa. Very good feeling and shooting gun.
Hello just to update a little the characteristics of this weapon to date. Here in Argentina, the Bersas Factory, already for years ago this model of Bersa Thunder 380 ACP was updated to two models of the same characteristics and materials in general but with the update that their loaders are 15 ammunition and load two loaders per box. These models are Bersa Thunder Combat Plus and Bersa Thunder Plus .. It should be added that the firm also has a load extensor with which the chargers are left with 18 ammunition plus one in total bedroom 19 ammunition. A fire power that neither Sir Sean Cornery could have dream. Between the two new models the only difference is the rise The fight brings a Glock type horseshoe and the plus brings an adjustable rise as the model you show. Greetings and I hope you enjoy this weapon.
Hola Solo para actualizar un poco las caracteristicas de esta arma a la fecha. Aqui en Argentina lugar de fabrica de las BERSAS, ya hace un para de años se actualizo este modelo de Bersa Thunder 380 ACP a dos modelos de iguales caracteristicas y materiales en general pero con la actualizacion de que sus cargadores son de 15 municiones y cargan dos cargadores por caja. Esos modelos son BERSA Thunder Combat Plus y Bersa Thunder Plus.. Cabe agregar que la firma tambien cuenta con un extensor de carga con lo cual los cargadores quedan con 18 municiones mas uno en recamara total 19 municiones. Un poder de fuego que ni el mismo Sir Sean Cornery habria podido soñar. Entre los dos modelos nuevos la unica diferencia es el alza la Combat trae un alza herradura tipo Glock y la Plus trae un alza regulable como el modelo que muestras. Un saludo y espero disfruteis de esta arma.
Not a fan of the thunder. Mine had a bad slide. Notch wore out. Got a new slide. Gun never did work very well. Lost all confidence and sold it for a loss.
How reliable is this modern version of the PPK in comparison to a Glock? Does the straight blowback jam less?
No, more felt recoil because of the fixed barrel as well. Tilting barrel makes feeding more reliable, in theory at least.
Why do I sometimes hear and see in advertisements that the Bersa Thunder .380 has a 7 round magazine and other times it's described as having an 8 round magazine?
There are different versions of the Thunder 380. For instance, the Combat version has a greater capacity.
Bersa makes an 8 round flush fit magazine for the Thunder 380. Mine came brand new with a factory 8 round mag. Bersa is slowly phasing out the 7 round mags and replacing them with the 8 round mags.
@Alejandro Sosa I already know about it. In the video he says it comes with a 7 round magazine, but mine came with an 8 round magazine.
@@1791GunleatherI have a question sir I am a older person new to guns got my ccw permits on a 22 is this gun good for a new shooter a beginner?is the slide easy to rack?
@ScottWiecenski actually if you look closely his magazine is also an 8 round. The thunder usually is offered with 8rd mag. The firestorm which is a similar gun intended for the CALIFORNIA market comes with 7rd mag.
Being a blowback action does this kick harder than tilting barrel locking types?
NO! extremely mild! Fixed bl... extremely accurate!!
Direct blowback with fixed barrel has a sharper recoil. All the recoil energy is felt when the round goes off and the slide racks back. On a tilting barrel you feel the round go off, the slide starts to move, the barrel tilts, then the slide racks back. There's at least one more moving part to dissipate the recoil energy with a tilting barrel. You aren't changing the feeling of the round going off much because there's no gas being bled off but you are changing the way the gun feels when it cycles.
Yes
What happens when you rack the slide with the safety on? When you release the slide release, does the safety/decocker stay on? Does it decock the gun then go unsafe. I have a friends Bersa that is decocking and releasing the safety when the slide release is used.
Mine doesn't go into battery fully. I feel like it will mess up the gun if you do that a lot. I got the bersa CC though
What is supposed to happen is the first round loads into battery while the safety allows the hammer to fall with out a discharge. Safety bar was dropped so it can't discharge.
I can’t even watch the rest of this video
That key lock is trash .
What's going on with the trigger guard