Honestly I've found turbo hands to be about 50/50 vs zard. Can quickly run them out the game if they have a slow start (which is quite rare for zard I'll admit but still)
@@MrWessiideI promise it’s heavily favored for Zard. I’ve played with Turbo Hands at league cups/challenges and beaten lots of Charizards, but that’s usually because they drew poorly or didn’t play well. Vs better opponents you just can’t keep up more often than not
@@sebastianfranco3318 NEVER? i cant believe anyone says never about this game. theres so much luck involved. if you draw 1 iron crown and 5 energy and 1 boss orders ur probably losing 😭
While it definitely took a step back, the fact that there still have been some decent tournament results is testament to just how good of an engine Garde is. It all depends on what the future sets hold in store, but if it gets a good attacker that doesn't rely on tools again, it could pull itself back into an A tier deck. It is a lot of fun to play, so I really hope to see it get the cards it needs to rise again, even if it still has a baseline of decent to good even now.
Well this explains why me (a noob who started playing this week) is being crushed by certain deck combos I've come across on the TCG Live app lol. I was using a Ex Battle Melmetal deck
@@thebruisedreed9766 2nd turo helps against stall and ancient box. Jirachi helps against lost zone box and lost zone tina. Out of 16 rounds the only time I wish I had the 2nd turo was in top 8 against ancient box, but I had beaten 3 other moon decks on day 1.
To be a Pokémon Master, you need to challenge all of DA PROS that wield each of the TOP 10 DECKS with your VERY OWN DECK and WIN 'EM ALL!!!! That is my challenge!!!! Can you do it???
To be frank, I myself do not like these kinds of decks. On the other hand, this does encourage my creativity as I build a deck to not only counter Snorlax Stall but also be competent with other top decks. I may hate Snorlax Stall with a passion, but I'm glad this tests my deck building skills.
Turbo hands players hate Lugia so much that they’re willing to lose every zard matchup just to donk Lugia
that's why I have 4 miriadons and 2 hands and iron leaves to hard counter zard. I never lose against zard
Worth it
Honestly I've found turbo hands to be about 50/50 vs zard. Can quickly run them out the game if they have a slow start (which is quite rare for zard I'll admit but still)
@@MrWessiideI promise it’s heavily favored for Zard. I’ve played with Turbo Hands at league cups/challenges and beaten lots of Charizards, but that’s usually because they drew poorly or didn’t play well. Vs better opponents you just can’t keep up more often than not
@@sebastianfranco3318 NEVER? i cant believe anyone says never about this game. theres so much luck involved. if you draw 1 iron crown and 5 energy and 1 boss orders ur probably losing 😭
While it definitely took a step back, the fact that there still have been some decent tournament results is testament to just how good of an engine Garde is. It all depends on what the future sets hold in store, but if it gets a good attacker that doesn't rely on tools again, it could pull itself back into an A tier deck. It is a lot of fun to play, so I really hope to see it get the cards it needs to rise again, even if it still has a baseline of decent to good even now.
Funny enough, Alloutblitzle is who I'm pretty sure was the top 32 with pidgeot control, he's literally the control guy
Well this explains why me (a noob who started playing this week) is being crushed by certain deck combos I've come across on the TCG Live app lol. I was using a Ex Battle Melmetal deck
Those are best played against each other to learn the game, much like MTG's Planeswalker decks.
@@dyciefisk2535 Yep. I have since moved on to a Chien Pao and Iron Hands combo I'm getting the hang of now
Still think Jirachi needed in Zard for Indy? 2nd Meleon sure does feel nice...
I prefer my list with both 2nd meleon and jirachi.
@@CeliosNetwork ah that's true. i think it's the 3rd boss, 2nd turo that's different between our lists.
@@CeliosNetworkgonna try one Turo and add Jirachi. Never was a problem with just one?
@@thebruisedreed9766 2nd turo helps against stall and ancient box. Jirachi helps against lost zone box and lost zone tina. Out of 16 rounds the only time I wish I had the 2nd turo was in top 8 against ancient box, but I had beaten 3 other moon decks on day 1.
I think you need to prepare for metal
Energy
My dad has the annoying ghouldingo ex deck. I can’t beat him at all. What’s a deck that can beat it? I’ve tried everything? Please help!!!
Hey Celio I was thinking about getting some coaching from you for NAIC should I do it now or wait a while for the meta to develop?
I have one question: if my opponents has taken 5 prizes, does my radiant charizard attacks for free?
It still needs a fire energy
I feel like charizard pidgeot is not #1 anymore
To be a Pokémon Master, you need to challenge all of DA PROS that wield each of the TOP 10 DECKS with your VERY OWN DECK and WIN 'EM ALL!!!! That is my challenge!!!! Can you do it???
Did you see this weekend? I think your list has to change 😂 pao doesn’t like Metal, gets rusty
I hate anyone who plays snorlax stall or any other stall.
To be frank, I myself do not like these kinds of decks. On the other hand, this does encourage my creativity as I build a deck to not only counter Snorlax Stall but also be competent with other top decks. I may hate Snorlax Stall with a passion, but I'm glad this tests my deck building skills.
CHINCHINO!!???!??