One thing to note: the Honda runs on DC electricity, the Brompton runs on Burritos. So depending on your local fuel availability that could be an important decision factor 🤣
We did catch ourselves in slow mode a few times since you need to double tap the power button, but had it in fast mode where it counted. Dan got in the habit of kicking off though 😂
Their unpack test at the start was embarrassingly bad too, the guy unpacking the the Honda clearly didn't really know what he was doing and the guy unpacking the Brompton did. He unpacks the Brompton in 17 seconds while the guy unpacking the Honda fiddles around for those 17 seconds doing like 3 actions that clearly would only take about 3 or 4 seconds total if he had done it a couple of times. Either you need to get a couple of random people to do each version and see the difference or you need to be extremely familiar with both and then test how quick you can do it.
Thank you for enabling me to get back into biking. I fixed up a $50 cruiser off of Facebook marketplace to get me started and thanks to you I actually understand how the parts on my bikes actually work. I shared your channel with a friend today, we have decided to call you Bike Dad. Thanks, Bike Dad!
Exactly!! Also he's used to unfolding his bike multiple times unlike his friend with the Honda. I bet after a few practices runs unfolding the Honda would be just as fast if not faster.
i agree. the brompton obviously still wins in various categories but that assembly was just plain unfair. dude assembling the honda had no clue what he was doing
Not to mention the fact that he's going to be generating far more wattage than your average Brompton rider because of the amount of climbing he does on bikes. Brompton wins most of these challenges but by nowhere near the margin that is being made out here.
Did you use Power mode 1 or Power mode 2 on the motocompacto? Since power mode 1 is limited to 10mph, power mode 2 to 15mph. Seeing as you had to push it to start, I think you were in power mode 1 the whole time.
Somehow I think the Brompton still would have won most of the challenges, considering 15mph is pretty average for most bicycles. Maybe the hill challenge the outcome would have been different since 15mph uphill can be tough even on a full size bike.
@@chadmyles-theclevelandcyclistCan the Motocompacto offer unlimited power to reach 15mph though? Otherwise it’s potentially also going to be under 15mph climbing?
i know you hear this a lot but every time you post a new video I get extremely excited because I really get inspired by your passion on bicycles. been following your channel for over a year now and is definitely the channel that I’m referring more when I need to learn or understand something about my own mountain bike or road bike. Recently started a project of flipping a bike that I bought on Facebook marketplace all inspired on your videos.
Thank you! First thing I said when the video started. There've been a few of these types of things over the years, and it annoys me every time that they're never called a ScootCase. 😝 The first time I saw something like this was around 1990, I was about 10 years old watching the Regis and Kathy Lee show with my grandma. First thing 10 year old me said was that it should've been called a ScootCase. Marketing teams need to be fired. 🧐 (yes, I'm aware this name is a nod to something else, I'm joking...ly serious 😁)
I saw a guy with an even smaller Chinese suit case moto absolutely ripping it through a casino in Vegas. I don’t think you could get away with doing that on a brompton.
I see where this honda is coming from, I think in the 70s there was a Honda Civic that came with a folding 2 stroke petrol engine scooter in the trunk and it was called Honda Motocompo, as this is smaller it's called Motocompacto, this thing looks so cool!!!!
The Motocompacto is nothing more than a homage to the Motocompo of the 80's. They're not the greatest bang for buck, but they're still really fun and they break necks everywhere. People love them.
Great video, after reading the specs of the hondas suitcase i found that you were in mode 1 when you have to kick off to start your ride. "you’ll find that the vehicle comes with two different modes. For mode one you’ll be restricted to 10 mph and are required to kick off to start moving, and with mode two you won’t have any requirement; push the throttle, and you’re on your way."
I friggin love this video. For the curious, I think the use case for the Honda is Japanese urban train commuters. You can’t bring bikes on trains there (unless they’re in a bag), so a last-mile scooter that folds into its own carry case and can take advantage of the really excellent urban cycling infrastructure in Japan is actually a super cool idea.
Honestly the EUC is probably the best short distance PEV out of all of them. Small enough to fit under a shopping cart, enough range to do over 30 miles at 20+mph even on the smallest/cheapest options. Leaves you hands free for shopping purposes. Smallest one to fit in a trunk. Slight learning curve but anyone who can ride a bicycle can learn to ride one in a couple days.
Hi Seth. I just wanted to say that I love your videos and watch every new one. I am a biker from Mozambique in Africa but am origonoly from the US. You content is truly inspiring. Thanks for the great content.
Hey Seth, you should really check out/learn how to ride an electric unicycle. When it comes to form factor for a last mile device, they are pretty much unmatched and they're also really fun. Hope you read this.
They're also capable of being much more than just a last mile device. I use 1 (of the 4 I have 😅) as my main vehicle. I don't own a car and I work almost 15 miles from home. I ride it year round down to 0° (F-reedom 😉) and with a leather riding suit, motorcycle helmet and heated vest, I'm pretty darn cozy (and jamming to my stereo music 🎶😁). And in anything less than a downpour, I stay almost completely dry, and the wheel is totally fine. Mine (Begode Ex30) does 50 mph and at that speed it can get around 40 miles (double that at slower speeds). It is super lush and comfortable, with a plush suspension, and it's an absolute blast to ride. I look forward to my daily commute (still get road rage, though, as I'm going traffic speed and drivers are still 🤬 sometimes 😂) Then I wheel it into work and charge it there... I never need to pay for gas or electricity or find a parking space... If traffic gets too heavy or if road closures pop up - as they're wont to do 😅 - i just hop on the sidewalk and (slowly) breeze by all the annoyance. I roll it into stores (wearing my whole silly stormtrooper gettup, which I think looks dorky, but have had so many people say is super cool looking 😂) and have never had anyone say anything bad. I've even gone to a day at the movies, watching (and paying for 😉) 3 different movies in 3 different theaters, each on the opposite side of the last. So I wheeled it into and across the lobby of an Emagine 4 times throughout the day and never had a negative word. 🤩 I really couldn't love it anymore (I mean, as a whole, I could always love any particular one that went further faster, more. 😉) I highly recommend one to everyone even considering the option. 👍😁
@@kenanjones3481 Well, only 45 usually. 😉 If there's no wind, it's quite easy and "chill". I literally just stand there. I liken it to mind control transportation 😁... It's a bit hard to explain what I mean without experiencing it, but you're not really actively "doing" anything. You just kinda think "I wanna go faster" or "I wanna go over there a bit", and you do it. (I know that sounds silly, like how everything works, but it really is a unique experience in my opinion) However... If there is wind, it's a whole other story. 😅 You gotta sorta use your body as a rudder to micro, or more than micro, adjust fairly constantly or you'll be all over the place. You can also just lean into it, and you're almost sucked forward... But then you gotta watch you're not going over speed. Heh. It's all a blast, honestly. I can't ever see myself getting a car or any other means of transportstion. 👍😁
@@aXionXeroSounds amazing! Unfortunately they are super illegal where I live, which is a shame. How does it handle emergency stops? That's what I'd be most concerned about for traffic.
@@Lolwutfordawin I don't think they're technically legal anywhere; but they don't seem to care here, and I've been lucky so far 😁 If you know what you're doing, you can stop about as fast as a car can (and no brakes to ever have to replace, even 😉). There's been a couple times where I need to "slam on the brakes", and I've never had an issue. If I'm waiting at a light, I can turn after a car passes at 40 mph and be directly behind them within a second or two. All that acceleration power is the exact same power used for stopping. It's incredible.
A fairly new subscriber to this channel and had been loving the content so far, but gotta say this video really missed the mark. Even going along with the questionable comparison of a human-powered fold-up bicycle to the battery-powered sit-down scooter, it was frustrating to watch how unfair the evaluation of the Motocompacto was. Full disclosure, I do own one myself. The two biggest issues both lie in the apparent lack of any effort to learn about even the basics of the Motocompacto's operations before making the video. First, the "unfold speed" test was abysmal. Seth is clearly very fluid and practiced with unfolding the Brompton, whereas the other guy was still figuring the Motocompacto out. There is definitely an "order of events" that *has* to happen in that sequence for the Motocompacto, but once you get some practice, I'm certain it would match or outperform in that department (none of the steps requires any tightening, mostly just over-engineered latches). Second, the entire video appears to have been made with the Motocompacto in Drive Mode 1, which requires a kick-off (12:54) and has a top speed of 10mph. Drive Mode 2, which just requires you to double-press the power button, can accelerate from stopped and reach a top speed of 15mph. In that mode, I've easily ridden up >30 degree inclines (I'm ~180lbs) with minimal speed loss. The Motocompacto has a fairly powerful 490W motor - the 15mph top speed is almost certainly a software cap. You can actually feel the Motocompacto reduce power when you hit 15, which suggests that it can easily have kept going faster (some folks using aftermarket controllers have achieved 25-30mph). To be fair, many of Seth's comments about it being overpriced ($995 MSRP, fwiw I bought it w/ a discount), underpowered compared to a $300 e-scooter, and lacking any suspension making it a rough ride are all true. He does also showcase the durability, handling, and balance of the scooter by doing some gnarly tricks (unlikely that a $300 e-scooter would survive any of these, especially since they tend to have smaller wheels, lower clearance, and have their battery packs literally at the bottom so a good hit on a rock might lead to an explosion). I would just have really loved to see the Motocompacto be tested properly and given its dues. Me and other owners I've met of the Motocompacto have all really loved it, and I haven't met anyone who has regretted purchasing one. Anyways, I'm grateful Seth took the time to make this video and look forward to others like this.
They also never mention that the motocompacto was literally designed as a "last-mile" companion for their cars, not to be some "daily driver" commuter scooter. It folds up nicely so you can keep it in the trunk of a car. It wasn't designed for the same purpose as the Brompton.
I think that part of the appeal of the motocompacto is also the retro factor, blinkning back to their legendary 80's icon the Motocompo. It falls under partially the same nieche as the Nintendo NES mini. You dont buy it mainly to compete with modern full sized consoles or because "its a good deal", but for the retro factor and the looks.
Good read. Thanks for the input regarding the scooter. I watch all Seths videos, but this was a thumbs down and a pain to watch bc of the mishandling and treatment of the poor scooter.
Ah, figured it you got it from Sean. I was like... wait a second, didn't Sean review one of these a few months back? Nice, cool to see my favorite channels connecting like that.
I live near Chicago so I huck to flat my GTI everyday to work as well. You are so entertaining Seth, I so look forward to your videos! Thanks for some of the greatest content on TH-cam!
Hey Seth I started riding bikes again for the first time in years and I've been loving it I'm currently saving up for the ozark trail ridge since my bike isn't my size anymore
from what I know, the Motocompacto is made for in case of emergency and you just need to get somewhere when your car broke, like to patch flat tyre while your spare is also flat. So you can ride it taking with your the flat tire. It is NOT design to hop on and off obstacles :D. Good job Seth, that is hilarious.
Motocompacto may lack the "'oo'mph" but it has character. It's funny to compare it with Brompton, but still a nice take on it! "FortNine" channel also did a funny by doing a Mr. Bean version on this. So, finally Motocompacto is Berm Peak Tested, QC Passed!
Seth speaks the truth. I have a $350 Amazon scooter that has 12-in wheels with pneumatic tires and dual suspension that could definitely outperform this Honda scooter in speed, acceleration and off-road ability, however I don't know if it would survive a drop like that Honda did. That was surprising
I love the content man! Your videos have really helped me figure out what type of bike to get after my last one got stolen. I just started riding it to.
I tried the Honda Suitcase Scooter at a local convention. It was just "ok", and that was inside with an obstacle course. Now this just makes me want to get a brompton.
Im a long time subscriber. I know you said the berm peak new feature videos didnt do as good as your bike flipping vids, but that is what i absolutely loved.. and many others as well... the best videos and why i had originally subscribed.. please go back to your roots.. i know algorithms have changed, but we need to figure somthing out.. i want berm peak "new feature" videos.. I dont watch any of these bike flipping videos. You also said the feature videos took a massive amount of work comepared to these newer videos. But we love them!!! Please go back!!!
At the end of it all, you guys finally bought 8 motherboards for about 40% less than the price of the Board at the intro 🤣😂. Thats a crazy deal and experiment😎
@@matthewormond7356 Both are pretty hard to learn and nothing like riding a bike. I've owned a OW for over two years and I don't think I could do any of the things he did on that Brompton in this vid tbh. It is good fun though.
I’ve wanted a Motocompacto for the last 20 years that I’ve know about them. I can’t believe they’re back. It’s definitely not what I thought it’d be and wouldn’t be the electric bike I’d go with in the future. I’m still waiting for a small electric bike that won’t cost me the price of a used car.
Looking forward to a video from either Berm Peak or Bikes and Beards to put an upgraded engine and wheels on that Honda, maybe even shocks. It might be epic.
This was an entertaining and informative video. Seth has some mad biking skills and clearly the blessing of the cycling gods. He cant possibly pull of some of the crazy stuff without that. Who encounters huck to flat on their way to work (or even rides down stairs!!)!! Also, what the heck is a huck?
Give us an update on the main hinge for the Brompton after you get done tossing it off drops. Those are steel but I bet they get out of alignment eventually.
Hey Seth, love that your trying out new areas of biking, have you thought about looking into the semi-new category of neo-retro bike / restoring retro bikes with modern components? If not, will there be any upcoming mtb videos? I’m missing them!
It doesn't matter if a bicycle wins against electric-crap, because it always wins anyways as its a bicycle, but a pretty good sized drop-to-flat on a solid wheel scooter is pretty entertaining if not terrifying for the guy with no body armor or full face on! bravo!
"He really likes this thing so we're gonna take it easy." Five minutes later: A HUCK TO FLAT TEST
Beard & bikes proselytism really grinds my gears, so I don't feel bad..
*Gesturing to the stairs.*
I"m sure they designed it to be able to do that as well.
Lol I thought the same thing
LOL "because everyone does this on their commute to work"
@@ssenssel im not familiar with him, what are your issues?
"A huck to flat is something you normally encounter on your way to work" ... the totally deadpan delivery here is peak comedy
Well it is pretty common, mostly just hucking off curbs and 2-3 stair sets.
Berm peak comedy:)
I actually have one on my way to school. Its sweet to ride on my hardtail.
I am autistic and struggle with sarcasm, so I am happy I read this comment and understand it is a joke now haha
I mean, there's this curb at the end of one of my favorite bike trails that is tall enough to basically be a huck to flat.
One thing to note: the Honda runs on DC electricity, the Brompton runs on Burritos. So depending on your local fuel availability that could be an important decision factor 🤣
My town is having a Burrito shortage
Whistling Diesel But Berm Peak Edition
Yes!
Who?
@@KermitOfWarwhistlin diesel
Yeah, that’s the first ever red flag I’ve gotten from Seth.
@@Jamesfrancosdog What's the red flag?
You are just like me when I got my Brompton 5 years ago: "Look at me, look, you can do ANYTHING on a Brompton. Wheeeeee!"
drives in a lake.. ohh i cant swim
have you ever 360'd it??
I love how he treats his Brompton like a BMX bike
If you had to kick it off to make it go like you mentioned, then you had it in the slow mode the entire time. Fast mode doesn’t require a kick off.
newb mistake to not engage the VTEC
We did catch ourselves in slow mode a few times since you need to double tap the power button, but had it in fast mode where it counted. Dan got in the habit of kicking off though 😂
@@bermchasinhow did I forget about VTEC lmao
Their unpack test at the start was embarrassingly bad too, the guy unpacking the the Honda clearly didn't really know what he was doing and the guy unpacking the Brompton did. He unpacks the Brompton in 17 seconds while the guy unpacking the Honda fiddles around for those 17 seconds doing like 3 actions that clearly would only take about 3 or 4 seconds total if he had done it a couple of times.
Either you need to get a couple of random people to do each version and see the difference or you need to be extremely familiar with both and then test how quick you can do it.
Thank you for enabling me to get back into biking. I fixed up a $50 cruiser off of Facebook marketplace to get me started and thanks to you I actually understand how the parts on my bikes actually work. I shared your channel with a friend today, we have decided to call you Bike Dad. Thanks, Bike Dad!
Dude, your buddy wasn't making much of an attempt to get that Honda assembled very quickly whereas you were feverishly getting the Brompton assembled.
Exactly!!
Also he's used to unfolding his bike multiple times unlike his friend with the Honda.
I bet after a few practices runs unfolding the Honda would be just as fast if not faster.
I’m guessing he had never unfolded the Honda before. Definitely looked like a first attempt.
i agree. the brompton obviously still wins in various categories but that assembly was just plain unfair. dude assembling the honda had no clue what he was doing
Not to mention the fact that he's going to be generating far more wattage than your average Brompton rider because of the amount of climbing he does on bikes. Brompton wins most of these challenges but by nowhere near the margin that is being made out here.
not to mention hes unfolded that thing a bunch im sure
Says his friend was being a bit too rough with it and then, 5 mins later, starts going downstairs with it lol
I think Seth realised he'll be paying for it, so might as well get his monies worth. 😅
Hey man, Berm Peak is my reason for getting sober and getting back into mountain biking. Keep it up godbless!
congratulations man!!
Did you use Power mode 1 or Power mode 2 on the motocompacto? Since power mode 1 is limited to 10mph, power mode 2 to 15mph. Seeing as you had to push it to start, I think you were in power mode 1 the whole time.
Yeah this is kind of a trash comparison, Sorry Seth.
Somehow I think the Brompton still would have won most of the challenges, considering 15mph is pretty average for most bicycles. Maybe the hill challenge the outcome would have been different since 15mph uphill can be tough even on a full size bike.
@@chadmyles-theclevelandcyclistCan the Motocompacto offer unlimited power to reach 15mph though? Otherwise it’s potentially also going to be under 15mph climbing?
@@rob-c.True, but it would still be more watts to the motor.
can you lean with the pacto
i know you hear this a lot but every time you post a new video I get extremely excited because I really get inspired by your passion on bicycles.
been following your channel for over a year now and is definitely the channel that I’m referring more when I need to learn or understand something about my own mountain bike or road bike. Recently started a project of flipping a bike that I bought on Facebook marketplace all inspired on your videos.
They missed the opportunity to call it The Scootcase
That would have been a great name but Motocompacto is a throwback to Honda's Motocompo, which is honestly cooler once you know the history of it.
I love scootcase😂
Thank you!
First thing I said when the video started.
There've been a few of these types of things over the years, and it annoys me every time that they're never called a ScootCase. 😝
The first time I saw something like this was around 1990, I was about 10 years old watching the Regis and Kathy Lee show with my grandma. First thing 10 year old me said was that it should've been called a ScootCase. Marketing teams need to be fired. 🧐 (yes, I'm aware this name is a nod to something else, I'm joking...ly serious 😁)
Funny, I'm embarrassed for honda
The Honda kick and go .. now you have a race.. lol
I saw a guy with an even smaller Chinese suit case moto absolutely ripping it through a casino in Vegas. I don’t think you could get away with doing that on a brompton.
I see where this honda is coming from, I think in the 70s there was a Honda Civic that came with a folding 2 stroke petrol engine scooter in the trunk and it was called Honda Motocompo, as this is smaller it's called Motocompacto, this thing looks so cool!!!!
Honda City, rather than Civic.
14:04 " My name is seth. This is Berm Peak and welcome to jackass" 😂😂😂
Hahaha
The Motocompacto is nothing more than a homage to the Motocompo of the 80's. They're not the greatest bang for buck, but they're still really fun and they break necks everywhere. People love them.
Great video, after reading the specs of the hondas suitcase i found that you were in mode 1 when you have to kick off to start your ride. "you’ll find that the vehicle comes with two different modes. For mode one you’ll be restricted to 10 mph and are required to kick off to start moving, and with mode two you won’t have any requirement; push the throttle, and you’re on your way."
I friggin love this video.
For the curious, I think the use case for the Honda is Japanese urban train commuters.
You can’t bring bikes on trains there (unless they’re in a bag), so a last-mile scooter that folds into its own carry case and can take advantage of the really excellent urban cycling infrastructure in Japan is actually a super cool idea.
unicycle destroys all 2 wheelers
As a fan of Seth and Sean, I’m glad to see you guys are friends
As a Brompton user, I love this content! Thanks!
Honestly the EUC is probably the best short distance PEV out of all of them. Small enough to fit under a shopping cart, enough range to do over 30 miles at 20+mph even on the smallest/cheapest options. Leaves you hands free for shopping purposes. Smallest one to fit in a trunk. Slight learning curve but anyone who can ride a bicycle can learn to ride one in a couple days.
10:48 minivan parking job 1/10
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice,, I hope they were just dropping someone off, but it don't look that way to me
I'd have to be an asshole to take a handicap spot; I'll take two.
It looks to me like it was a mobility van with a ramp that comes out the side for wheel chairs.
@@hiurro Most likely a van with a ramp for a wheelchair
@@icebrew hopefully you're right. I just don't have the necessary faith in drivers anymore to pick up on something like that.
This channel is slowly turning into Brompton Peak
Still better than RC Truck Peak
Hi Seth. I just wanted to say that I love your videos and watch every new one. I am a biker from Mozambique in Africa but am origonoly from the US. You content is truly inspiring. Thanks for the great content.
Hey Seth, you should really check out/learn how to ride an electric unicycle. When it comes to form factor for a last mile device, they are pretty much unmatched and they're also really fun. Hope you read this.
They're also capable of being much more than just a last mile device.
I use 1 (of the 4 I have 😅) as my main vehicle. I don't own a car and I work almost 15 miles from home. I ride it year round down to 0° (F-reedom 😉) and with a leather riding suit, motorcycle helmet and heated vest, I'm pretty darn cozy (and jamming to my stereo music 🎶😁). And in anything less than a downpour, I stay almost completely dry, and the wheel is totally fine.
Mine (Begode Ex30) does 50 mph and at that speed it can get around 40 miles (double that at slower speeds). It is super lush and comfortable, with a plush suspension, and it's an absolute blast to ride. I look forward to my daily commute (still get road rage, though, as I'm going traffic speed and drivers are still 🤬 sometimes 😂)
Then I wheel it into work and charge it there... I never need to pay for gas or electricity or find a parking space... If traffic gets too heavy or if road closures pop up - as they're wont to do 😅 - i just hop on the sidewalk and (slowly) breeze by all the annoyance.
I roll it into stores (wearing my whole silly stormtrooper gettup, which I think looks dorky, but have had so many people say is super cool looking 😂) and have never had anyone say anything bad. I've even gone to a day at the movies, watching (and paying for 😉) 3 different movies in 3 different theaters, each on the opposite side of the last. So I wheeled it into and across the lobby of an Emagine 4 times throughout the day and never had a negative word. 🤩
I really couldn't love it anymore (I mean, as a whole, I could always love any particular one that went further faster, more. 😉)
I highly recommend one to everyone even considering the option. 👍😁
@@aXionXero you ride a unicycle at 50mph?? it must be easier to ride than I'm imagining, I would be terrified!
@@kenanjones3481 Well, only 45 usually. 😉
If there's no wind, it's quite easy and "chill". I literally just stand there. I liken it to mind control transportation 😁... It's a bit hard to explain what I mean without experiencing it, but you're not really actively "doing" anything. You just kinda think "I wanna go faster" or "I wanna go over there a bit", and you do it. (I know that sounds silly, like how everything works, but it really is a unique experience in my opinion)
However... If there is wind, it's a whole other story. 😅 You gotta sorta use your body as a rudder to micro, or more than micro, adjust fairly constantly or you'll be all over the place. You can also just lean into it, and you're almost sucked forward... But then you gotta watch you're not going over speed. Heh.
It's all a blast, honestly. I can't ever see myself getting a car or any other means of transportstion. 👍😁
@@aXionXeroSounds amazing! Unfortunately they are super illegal where I live, which is a shame. How does it handle emergency stops? That's what I'd be most concerned about for traffic.
@@Lolwutfordawin I don't think they're technically legal anywhere; but they don't seem to care here, and I've been lucky so far 😁
If you know what you're doing, you can stop about as fast as a car can (and no brakes to ever have to replace, even 😉). There's been a couple times where I need to "slam on the brakes", and I've never had an issue.
If I'm waiting at a light, I can turn after a car passes at 40 mph and be directly behind them within a second or two. All that acceleration power is the exact same power used for stopping. It's incredible.
I like seeing that bikes can beat anything in the world. Please keep making this sort of content
A fairly new subscriber to this channel and had been loving the content so far, but gotta say this video really missed the mark. Even going along with the questionable comparison of a human-powered fold-up bicycle to the battery-powered sit-down scooter, it was frustrating to watch how unfair the evaluation of the Motocompacto was. Full disclosure, I do own one myself.
The two biggest issues both lie in the apparent lack of any effort to learn about even the basics of the Motocompacto's operations before making the video.
First, the "unfold speed" test was abysmal. Seth is clearly very fluid and practiced with unfolding the Brompton, whereas the other guy was still figuring the Motocompacto out. There is definitely an "order of events" that *has* to happen in that sequence for the Motocompacto, but once you get some practice, I'm certain it would match or outperform in that department (none of the steps requires any tightening, mostly just over-engineered latches).
Second, the entire video appears to have been made with the Motocompacto in Drive Mode 1, which requires a kick-off (12:54) and has a top speed of 10mph. Drive Mode 2, which just requires you to double-press the power button, can accelerate from stopped and reach a top speed of 15mph. In that mode, I've easily ridden up >30 degree inclines (I'm ~180lbs) with minimal speed loss. The Motocompacto has a fairly powerful 490W motor - the 15mph top speed is almost certainly a software cap. You can actually feel the Motocompacto reduce power when you hit 15, which suggests that it can easily have kept going faster (some folks using aftermarket controllers have achieved 25-30mph).
To be fair, many of Seth's comments about it being overpriced ($995 MSRP, fwiw I bought it w/ a discount), underpowered compared to a $300 e-scooter, and lacking any suspension making it a rough ride are all true. He does also showcase the durability, handling, and balance of the scooter by doing some gnarly tricks (unlikely that a $300 e-scooter would survive any of these, especially since they tend to have smaller wheels, lower clearance, and have their battery packs literally at the bottom so a good hit on a rock might lead to an explosion). I would just have really loved to see the Motocompacto be tested properly and given its dues. Me and other owners I've met of the Motocompacto have all really loved it, and I haven't met anyone who has regretted purchasing one.
Anyways, I'm grateful Seth took the time to make this video and look forward to others like this.
TLDR. Bruh
They also never mention that the motocompacto was literally designed as a "last-mile" companion for their cars, not to be some "daily driver" commuter scooter. It folds up nicely so you can keep it in the trunk of a car. It wasn't designed for the same purpose as the Brompton.
I think that part of the appeal of the motocompacto is also the retro factor, blinkning back to their legendary 80's icon the Motocompo. It falls under partially the same nieche as the Nintendo NES mini. You dont buy it mainly to compete with modern full sized consoles or because "its a good deal", but for the retro factor and the looks.
Fair comments. Also note that wheel size makes quite a difference on the rougher surfaces and down those stairs.
Good read. Thanks for the input regarding the scooter. I watch all Seths videos, but this was a thumbs down and a pain to watch bc of the mishandling and treatment of the poor scooter.
Hilarious to go from ‘we’re gonna look after this for our buddy’ to just slamming it into the ground
i never expected to see Bikes and Beards here but im glad im subbed to them already
Ah, figured it you got it from Sean. I was like... wait a second, didn't Sean review one of these a few months back? Nice, cool to see my favorite channels connecting like that.
I live near Chicago so I huck to flat my GTI everyday to work as well. You are so entertaining Seth, I so look forward to your videos! Thanks for some of the greatest content on TH-cam!
I can't believe you tried the stairs on that thing 🤣
Is berm peak becoming a Brompton channel? I'm here for it!
When someone says Brompton is fragile 😂, see this 😂
That song at the 5 min part goes hard. MORE PLEASE!
Hey Seth I started riding bikes again for the first time in years and I've been loving it I'm currently saving up for the ozark trail ridge since my bike isn't my size anymore
14:04 The skater in the background stops to watch lol.
"He's gonna jump off that, on THAT?"
from what I know, the Motocompacto is made for in case of emergency and you just need to get somewhere when your car broke, like to patch flat tyre while your spare is also flat. So you can ride it taking with your the flat tire. It is NOT design to hop on and off obstacles :D. Good job Seth, that is hilarious.
I love how Sean is involved with berm peak
Motocompacto may lack the "'oo'mph" but it has character. It's funny to compare it with Brompton, but still a nice take on it! "FortNine" channel also did a funny by doing a Mr. Bean version on this. So, finally Motocompacto is Berm Peak Tested, QC Passed!
You should take a look at EUCs they are really insane and you can use them for so many things the only negative is learning how to drive one
Seth speaks the truth. I have a $350 Amazon scooter that has 12-in wheels with pneumatic tires and dual suspension that could definitely outperform this Honda scooter in speed, acceleration and off-road ability, however I don't know if it would survive a drop like that Honda did. That was surprising
I love the content man! Your videos have really helped me figure out what type of bike to get after my last one got stolen. I just started riding it to.
Should have called it the Scoot Case...
I need to be on a marketing team.
This pays homage to the original Motocompo, hence its named that way..
@@ReNeyer Nice. I didn't know that.
I tried the Honda Suitcase Scooter at a local convention. It was just "ok", and that was inside with an obstacle course. Now this just makes me want to get a brompton.
Super entertaining! Haha good work!
Im a long time subscriber. I know you said the berm peak new feature videos didnt do as good as your bike flipping vids, but that is what i absolutely loved.. and many others as well... the best videos and why i had originally subscribed.. please go back to your roots.. i know algorithms have changed, but we need to figure somthing out.. i want berm peak "new feature" videos.. I dont watch any of these bike flipping videos. You also said the feature videos took a massive amount of work comepared to these newer videos. But we love them!!! Please go back!!!
Hi Seth I love your videos!!! Keep up the great great great work!!!
Brompton suspension block stress test 2 😂😂
Since watching this i am more confident at my Cline 😂
So funny! Thanks guys. Brompton should use your videos for sales!
Very entertaining, I like the tests to see the limits of these things
At the end of it all, you guys finally bought 8 motherboards for about 40% less than the price of the Board at the intro 🤣😂. Thats a crazy deal and experiment😎
This was great you need more Brompton videos for sure. Look at the Mods they do to them disk brakes, Titanium. Great job keep it up. 🎉🎉🎉
Can You Do vidéo. in this vidéo You full upgrade the brompton
Please 😅ps your video is the best I ever see
this video is sick! i would love to see more of this!
An entry level EUC weighs about the same but it's much more powerful and useful than the suitcase bike
This is a masterpiece
8:13 is your thumb okay?
Sean and the bikes and Beard's channel is a great one to watch.
Would be cool to see what a $2000 e-scooter can do vs the bromton!
Solid review. Just know there are people who will see this and say "Honey I need that Honda!"
I like these types of videos. Wear you test thing tor ther limits (torture test)
I love your videos so much they always make my day better. Keep it up Seth!
When set says they are going to be really careful, in my mind I heard were going to do something different, but kind of the same 🤣🤣
I don't know what seth is thinking but i like it 😂
the road at the 8 minute mark is a perfect example of the urban streets iride in terms of roughness , just less debris
I enjoy content like this
F9 and now Berm Peak?? Hell yeah
The absolute craziest thing I’ve seen you do
Great video seth🎉
You should compare the Brompton to a longboard
Lectric One vs Brompton would be cool too. I've been thinking about getting the One, but I wanna know how it handles curbs, potholes, gravel, etc
Love to see you start modding your brompton! get a bigger 48T chain ring if you wanna go faster on the flats!
You should test an electric unicycle next! It's even smaller than the Honda scooter and most of them do 30+ mph
I was thinking the same thing, and/or a One Wheel.
@@matthewormond7356 Both are pretty hard to learn and nothing like riding a bike. I've owned a OW for over two years and I don't think I could do any of the things he did on that Brompton in this vid tbh.
It is good fun though.
@@ZesPak you can't do it on OW. But they are much doable on an EUC.
The look on Seth when the box is on the ground after the steps challenge is epic 😅
compacto will get you to the office without a sweat . . . no need for heavy breathing or changing a shirt before walking into the boardroom
You can ride a normal bike without sweating, an e-bike? Please
Damn bro, I just bought a bike. I can't afford to get obsessed with Bromptons now.
Crazy tests love them.
Always entertaining!
This was great 👍🏻
I’ve wanted a Motocompacto for the last 20 years that I’ve know about them. I can’t believe they’re back. It’s definitely not what I thought it’d be and wouldn’t be the electric bike I’d go with in the future. I’m still waiting for a small electric bike that won’t cost me the price of a used car.
are you sure it was in full power mode ?? it should have a top speed of 15 mph
This was funny. Actually I thought the Honda scooter was going to break on the jumps 😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to a video from either Berm Peak or Bikes and Beards to put an upgraded engine and wheels on that Honda, maybe even shocks. It might be epic.
This was an entertaining and informative video. Seth has some mad biking skills and clearly the blessing of the cycling gods. He cant possibly pull of some of the crazy stuff without that.
Who encounters huck to flat on their way to work (or even rides down stairs!!)!! Also, what the heck is a huck?
I think you owe your friend a new scooter 🤣
Give us an update on the main hinge for the Brompton after you get done tossing it off drops. Those are steel but I bet they get out of alignment eventually.
Watching Seth torture test products and items is one of my favorite pastimes.
hey Seth can you please make a video building a mountainbike jump again? I realy enjoyed this type of videos you make😊
What a funny video! 😂😂
I liked it, Pilgrimesque almost.
Top Gear meets bikes, awesome!
I feel like the Honda is to ride around a plant or in a building of some type, not travel around town.
Please do comparison: Brompton Folding Bicycle VS Electric Unicycle (Inmotion v11 for example). The results may surprise ;)
Can't put a basket on a unicycle
Great vid, I wonder what you’d think of a sur Ron or similar electric bikes
Hey Seth, love that your trying out new areas of biking, have you thought about looking into the semi-new category of neo-retro bike / restoring retro bikes with modern components? If not, will there be any upcoming mtb videos? I’m missing them!
It doesn't matter if a bicycle wins against electric-crap, because it always wins anyways as its a bicycle, but a pretty good sized drop-to-flat on a solid wheel scooter is pretty entertaining if not terrifying for the guy with no body armor or full face on! bravo!
This was fun. It reminded me of old Top Gear at the beginning lol.
Yep. Didn't learn a thing. But I was entertained.
That was outrageously fun.