Spooky and soon Fuwaros might be really annoying yup For Spooky, I dare to hope that she will be banned within a few weeks, but for Fuwaros.... S:P pass turn🫡
@@shaddraw Probably I:P pass instead. You should always have at least one extra body available from the Trap you Set or from Dormouse’s effect, so I:P into S:P is available for 2 interruptions rather than 1. (If you’re under Shifter, probably instead into Heart Queen for 2 better interruptions. Could also try going I:P into S:P leaving TB-11 Set and using it to Summon Red Ransom on opponent’s turn for an extra interruption.) EDIT: Note that this does not work if your opponent uses Fuwaross after you Summon Splash Mage, if you’re going through that line. In that case, passing on Red Ransom+TB-11 is probably your best option. EDIT EDIT: In the non-shifter version, if you set GWC-06 instead of TB-11, you can instead end on Zeroboros with slightly better followup. You still put up as many interruptions as you give draws in this case.
May I suggest using something like Zeroboros to banish red ransom or white rabbit on the opponent's turn? This lets you summon White Rabbit and get 1 of the traps which can be activated immediately.
This is the first idea I thought of but I haven't been able to figure out how to make it a One card combo, the most annoying thing is that Rabbit doesn't offer to add a trap in hand 🫠 On the other hand, in 2 card combo with Aloof, Exceed, maybe EM:P etc, it could work without too much problem 🧐 The ideal imo would be to have Zeroboros + Encrypt + MTP-07, but maybe it's win more
@@shaddrawI've seen someone on discord made zeroboros with 1 card, If I remember correctly: normal dormouse banish rabbit ss rabbit set the trap that revives ss splash mage into red ransom add field spell then activate banish cheshire and ss itself link cheshire and red ransom for zeroboros opponent's turn use trap to revive to any zone zeroboros points to I don't think he plays wicckid or other regular cyberse techs tho, so there are still many alternative combo options
@@shaddraw I'd suggest playing the cyberse monsters that have effects when they're banished like Balancer Lord, since that can give an extra normal and dodge around imperm with backdoor to trigger it and immediately summon whatever was searched. The coder monsters don't seem too bad at first glance since they can get monsters to grave and search out Cynet Conflict, but as far as endboards go I'm not seeing much else that makes it a contender over Firewall Darkfluid Extra Link.
@@8609pp Ohhh yes obviously! I thought it didn't work because of the trap activation condition but it only applies if you want to activate it the turn it is set🧐
Heyoo, I tried and it actually works very well! In addition to having the ban of Zeroboros, if you summon Ransom in a targeted zone you can re summon it +2300LP -> recover a field spell -> ban Rabbit -> Rabbit set MTP-07 -> Ban an other card Thx bro, I'm saving this for the future🙏
I think bystial Malice is just better than the shifter stuff tbh. Since a bystial sets up combo on the opponents turn by banishing the link 3 or the rabbit for the banish trap
@@justice8718 I mean you're also locked by your own shifter. I just don't see how that's honestly enough. Your entire ED besides the archetype links can't even be used since they special from GY. Also a lot of the disruption in the opponents turn is used by banishing the link 3 on the opponents turn by a bystial or protectcode talker to set the banish trap on the opponents turn
Knowing that most decks can't play shifter at all (or S:P pass at maximum), I think Encrypt + MTP07 is more than enough honestly, knowing that the deck can easily otk T3🤔 Also keep in mind that there is still a link 3 in Crossover Breaker and that the deck could still have support from the next hand expansion!
I think you can definitely do both. Shifter makes plays less interesting, but having 2 bans under Shifter is enough to clear most matchups But without him, I also think that adapting his plays with bystial possibilities in hand could be more interesting
@@shaddraw I just think going second with shifter doesn't accomplish much since you might not be able to finish either. It's just dumb having the whole ED pretty much locked. I think going first you're just better off using protectcode or bystial on your own link 3 and link 3 banish rabbit to special and set the search and banish trap for extra disruption. At best I will side in shifter when I go first but going second it doesn't feel that good since we can't take full use of it like tenpai, Kash, or ritual beast
I went with Firewall as it's the line that I saw stand out the most and it's also the easiest to do as a one card combo On paper, I also think it would be better, but we have to see to what extent it is possible I see a lot of ideas coming out in the comments, I might do a 3rd video with this kind of combo but I prefer to wait for the last link 3 first🫡
I do prefer shorter combos, especially in a tournament setting since it just saves time and less chance of messing them up by doing the long combo. Just make a strong enough board that isn't too long to make that's effective at stopping your opponent.
I do agree, its the same issue mathmech has struggled whenever they go through the splash mage route. they do have more options than mathmech though because besides i:p, malice can use their own archetype links for interuption, unlike mathmech since they have no link monster. so thats one upside that malice has.
I think I just forgot lmaoo There are several times when I could have banned her, notably when I did the wicckid effect, which would have given me an extra body 😭 Thanks for pointing that out to me!
lmaoo yeah, the grind game with cyberse is still complex😭 hoping that the next supports will help him a little, in addition to having his own direction like marincess or salad
It's cool but this build is just another cyberse good stuff and link climbing spam. Do you think it could be played as Malice Bystial Control or something like that? I don't like getting Nibiru'd
The thing is that Nibiru is a current problem for most rogue decks (sometimes meta too) I'm not really a fan of Firewall spam either but for a first wave it remains largely correct, hoping that the next supports will give more identity to the deck and push the banning mechanic further than just triggering special summons and playing under shifter It's certainly possible to try to finish on Crypter, bystials in hand to banish Rabbit, which sets MTP07, it seems entirely feasible to me but still a little light imo (That said, it can have gameplay like Marincess, a board with a few interruptions and the biggest in hand) I've also seen combos with wyverbusters, don't hesitate to watch the KEI4GAMES channel which shows all that!
@@shaddraw the last link 3 is predicted to be the white queen. since in alice in wonderland there are 3 queens. the queen of hearts, the red queen, and the white queen. and the current link 3's are the red queen and queen of hearts. it might be a link 2 rather than a 3 though possibly because in the books the white queen is basically overthrown by the red queen(her older sister). technically making the white queen a princess(sort of)thus making her title lower, which could impact it being a link 2 rather than a 3, otherwise another link 3 I guess
theres also 1 missing maindeck monster card. the current ones rabbit cat and mouse symbolize the playing cards; hearts, clubs and diamonds. so we are missing spades. assuming the maindeck monsters are based on animal characters in the books that had the largest impact in the story, then spades will be the caterpillar
Historically, Cyberse Link Decks summon like crazy so Nib has always been a big weakness to their strategy. That being said, Malice being able to main Shifters and have all the banish synergies are probably the biggest reason to play this Cyberse link summon spam deck.
Bystials are a possible option in this sense, I know someone is trying with some wyverbuster too 🤔 Kashtira can potentially be nice too, even just for baiting handtraps and beating fiendsmith Now that I mention it, it most definitely works with fiendsmith too lmao 🥲 I've seen people talking about Lady Labrynth too but I'm not convinced by this one 🧐
Lmaoo Although I like the deck, it's true that it's quite a shame to use the classic board Cyberse + Shifter plays 🥲 There is still a link 3 to reveal, in addition to the next waves of support I dare to hope that the deck will manage to find more options specific to it, like Marincess or Salamangreat do 🙏
@@hiddenfog180 It's totally playable without Shifter, but the card is so broken and being able to play with it is such a strong buff on this game that I think it remains competitively more interesting to have it main
I guess could play the deck a little more dynamically. If you open shifter it locks you out of the big cyberse end boards so you can maybe just make the link 3 something else and then pass. Play control and then kill on crackback. Then if you don’t open shifter you are free to do a more standard cyberse end board. Have you tried doing plays that don’t lock you into cyberse so maybe you can have an end board like the link 3 that banishes and a Knightmare Gryphon?
@@lankeysob yeah, theoretically it should be possible to have at least Crypter + MTP07 which does 2 bans under shifter (not counting handtraps)🤔 I recently saw the video of IrooYGO which allows with Shifter and Dormouse to finish on Apollousa 3, 1 Malice on field and 1 in hand, Ransom and MTP-07 I invite you to watch if you are interested! I think it's certainly possible to abuse I:P too, knowing that S:P can trigger the effect of Malice in the graveyard, but I haven't seen anything on Gryphon yet but that doesn't it doesn't seem impossible 🧐
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Hopefully the last card gives them more power, pretty cool deck.
Its a third link monster
The cyberse plague continues to spread...
It found a new home.
I love cybernetic and beyond happy about my favorite type getting the Alice in wonderland theme
These are great! Also just by watching these combos we need to be careful that we can hard lose to spooky dog in time
Spooky and soon Fuwaros might be really annoying yup
For Spooky, I dare to hope that she will be banned within a few weeks, but for Fuwaros.... S:P pass turn🫡
@@shaddraw Probably I:P pass instead. You should always have at least one extra body available from the Trap you Set or from Dormouse’s effect, so I:P into S:P is available for 2 interruptions rather than 1.
(If you’re under Shifter, probably instead into Heart Queen for 2 better interruptions. Could also try going I:P into S:P leaving TB-11 Set and using it to Summon Red Ransom on opponent’s turn for an extra interruption.)
EDIT: Note that this does not work if your opponent uses Fuwaross after you Summon Splash Mage, if you’re going through that line. In that case, passing on Red Ransom+TB-11 is probably your best option.
EDIT EDIT: In the non-shifter version, if you set GWC-06 instead of TB-11, you can instead end on Zeroboros with slightly better followup. You still put up as many interruptions as you give draws in this case.
MY FELLOW CYBERSE STANDS, ON OUR WAY TO TIER 1 BABY🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
one white rabbit gets this many bodies out
Yeah she's crazy lmao
they would probably kill through prosperity lol
May I suggest using something like Zeroboros to banish red ransom or white rabbit on the opponent's turn? This lets you summon White Rabbit and get 1 of the traps which can be activated immediately.
This is the first idea I thought of but I haven't been able to figure out how to make it a One card combo, the most annoying thing is that Rabbit doesn't offer to add a trap in hand 🫠
On the other hand, in 2 card combo with Aloof, Exceed, maybe EM:P etc, it could work without too much problem 🧐
The ideal imo would be to have Zeroboros + Encrypt + MTP-07, but maybe it's win more
@@shaddrawI've seen someone on discord made zeroboros with 1 card, If I remember correctly:
normal dormouse banish rabbit
ss rabbit set the trap that revives
ss splash mage into red ransom
add field spell then activate
banish cheshire and ss itself
link cheshire and red ransom for zeroboros
opponent's turn use trap to revive to any zone zeroboros points to
I don't think he plays wicckid or other regular cyberse techs tho, so there are still many alternative combo options
@@shaddraw I'd suggest playing the cyberse monsters that have effects when they're banished like Balancer Lord, since that can give an extra normal and dodge around imperm with backdoor to trigger it and immediately summon whatever was searched.
The coder monsters don't seem too bad at first glance since they can get monsters to grave and search out Cynet Conflict, but as far as endboards go I'm not seeing much else that makes it a contender over Firewall Darkfluid Extra Link.
@@8609pp Ohhh yes obviously!
I thought it didn't work because of the trap activation condition but it only applies if you want to activate it the turn it is set🧐
Heyoo, I tried and it actually works very well!
In addition to having the ban of Zeroboros, if you summon Ransom in a targeted zone you can re summon it +2300LP -> recover a field spell -> ban Rabbit -> Rabbit set MTP-07 -> Ban an other card
Thx bro, I'm saving this for the future🙏
Nibiru says hi!! And flow from afar
Think this deck Can make apo under 5 invoc 😅
Example?
field spell is a negate, nib is useless against this deck
@@rmr8464that raizeol field spell not malice field spell
@@rmr8464 jajaja That's why raizeol is better
I think bystial Malice is just better than the shifter stuff tbh. Since a bystial sets up combo on the opponents turn by banishing the link 3 or the rabbit for the banish trap
Shifter control is meant for control.
@@justice8718 I mean you're also locked by your own shifter. I just don't see how that's honestly enough. Your entire ED besides the archetype links can't even be used since they special from GY. Also a lot of the disruption in the opponents turn is used by banishing the link 3 on the opponents turn by a bystial or protectcode talker to set the banish trap on the opponents turn
Knowing that most decks can't play shifter at all (or S:P pass at maximum), I think Encrypt + MTP07 is more than enough honestly, knowing that the deck can easily otk T3🤔
Also keep in mind that there is still a link 3 in Crossover Breaker and that the deck could still have support from the next hand expansion!
I think you can definitely do both.
Shifter makes plays less interesting, but having 2 bans under Shifter is enough to clear most matchups
But without him, I also think that adapting his plays with bystial possibilities in hand could be more interesting
@@shaddraw I just think going second with shifter doesn't accomplish much since you might not be able to finish either. It's just dumb having the whole ED pretty much locked. I think going first you're just better off using protectcode or bystial on your own link 3 and link 3 banish rabbit to special and set the search and banish trap for extra disruption. At best I will side in shifter when I go first but going second it doesn't feel that good since we can't take full use of it like tenpai, Kash, or ritual beast
Yeah dog this is sick work how do you remember all of this
Thx! these are speed up replays haha, there are quite a few moments where I think about what to do🥸
I feel like Cyberse end boards are fat nothing burgers. Feel like a combination of Apo, I:P, Heat soul, and queens of hearts is just better.
I went with Firewall as it's the line that I saw stand out the most and it's also the easiest to do as a one card combo
On paper, I also think it would be better, but we have to see to what extent it is possible
I see a lot of ideas coming out in the comments, I might do a 3rd video with this kind of combo but I prefer to wait for the last link 3 first🫡
I do prefer shorter combos, especially in a tournament setting since it just saves time and less chance of messing them up by doing the long combo. Just make a strong enough board that isn't too long to make that's effective at stopping your opponent.
I do agree, its the same issue mathmech has struggled whenever they go through the splash mage route. they do have more options than mathmech though because besides i:p, malice can use their own archetype links for interuption, unlike mathmech since they have no link monster. so thats one upside that malice has.
Out of curiousity is there a reason why the dormouse combo doesn't use the summon back of dormuse to do the whole combo of the white rabbit one?
I think I just forgot lmaoo
There are several times when I could have banned her, notably when I did the wicckid effect, which would have given me an extra body 😭
Thanks for pointing that out to me!
This is cool however this build suffers from the innate cyberse problem of spending your entire extra deck turn 1. 😂
lmaoo yeah, the grind game with cyberse is still complex😭
hoping that the next supports will help him a little, in addition to having his own direction like marincess or salad
It's cool but this build is just another cyberse good stuff and link climbing spam. Do you think it could be played as Malice Bystial Control or something like that? I don't like getting Nibiru'd
The thing is that Nibiru is a current problem for most rogue decks (sometimes meta too)
I'm not really a fan of Firewall spam either but for a first wave it remains largely correct, hoping that the next supports will give more identity to the deck and push the banning mechanic further than just triggering special summons and playing under shifter
It's certainly possible to try to finish on Crypter, bystials in hand to banish Rabbit, which sets MTP07, it seems entirely feasible to me but still a little light imo (That said, it can have gameplay like Marincess, a board with a few interruptions and the biggest in hand)
I've also seen combos with wyverbusters, don't hesitate to watch the KEI4GAMES channel which shows all that!
how are you guys testing those cards in master duel?
I play on, it's MDPro3, you will have more information on this discord: discord.gg/2BdSQdxU
Question: Could this be used with Magikey?
I don't really know Magikey but reading the cards I can't find any synergy🤔
Especially since Malice locks extra summons in Link only
Where i can download this simulator ?
on this discord! discord.com/invite/2BdSQdxU
in the channel #MDpro3, there are the pinned links
What app is this?
I play on, it's MDPro3, you will have more information on this discord: discord.gg/2BdSQdxU
Gimme name of the background's song plz
all in desc sir 🫡
So is there going to be a Malive Alice card
Maybe It's the last Link 3 🤔
@@shaddraw the last link 3 is predicted to be the white queen. since in alice in wonderland there are 3 queens. the queen of hearts, the red queen, and the white queen. and the current link 3's are the red queen and queen of hearts. it might be a link 2 rather than a 3 though possibly because in the books the white queen is basically overthrown by the red queen(her older sister). technically making the white queen a princess(sort of)thus making her title lower, which could impact it being a link 2 rather than a 3, otherwise another link 3 I guess
theres also 1 missing maindeck monster card. the current ones rabbit cat and mouse symbolize the playing cards; hearts, clubs and diamonds. so we are missing spades. assuming the maindeck monsters are based on animal characters in the books that had the largest impact in the story, then spades will be the caterpillar
How u do to have the same field ?
in replay settings!
How are you banishing dotscaper from deck?
Ransom (Link-3) Effect!
When she is banished, she can Special Summon herself in addition to banishing a Cyberse from the deck
@@shaddraw ah, missed that part of the res from banish effect, thanks!
Nibiru says hi 👋🏼
Crossout says bye
Historically, Cyberse Link Decks summon like crazy so Nib has always been a big weakness to their strategy. That being said, Malice being able to main Shifters and have all the banish synergies are probably the biggest reason to play this Cyberse link summon spam deck.
I wonder if there is some dumb combos you could do. Like, play it with a thunder d engine and cards of Sanctity or something.
Bystials are a possible option in this sense, I know someone is trying with some wyverbuster too 🤔
Kashtira can potentially be nice too, even just for baiting handtraps and beating fiendsmith
Now that I mention it, it most definitely works with fiendsmith too lmao 🥲
I've seen people talking about Lady Labrynth too but I'm not convinced by this one 🧐
When i was reading the cards i thought they were bad bc they didnt have a one card combo... Well fuck me i guess 😅
They look absolutely disgusting. Way too easy to proc their banish effect. I was cackling when you got all the firewalls out with One Card!
Lmaoo
Although I like the deck, it's true that it's quite a shame to use the classic board Cyberse + Shifter plays 🥲
There is still a link 3 to reveal, in addition to the next waves of support I dare to hope that the deck will manage to find more options specific to it, like Marincess or Salamangreat do 🙏
So would you say main decking shifter is good here or nah
@@hiddenfog180 It's totally playable without Shifter, but the card is so broken and being able to play with it is such a strong buff on this game that I think it remains competitively more interesting to have it main
I guess could play the deck a little more dynamically. If you open shifter it locks you out of the big cyberse end boards so you can maybe just make the link 3 something else and then pass. Play control and then kill on crackback. Then if you don’t open shifter you are free to do a more standard cyberse end board. Have you tried doing plays that don’t lock you into cyberse so maybe you can have an end board like the link 3 that banishes and a Knightmare Gryphon?
@@lankeysob
yeah, theoretically it should be possible to have at least Crypter + MTP07 which does 2 bans under shifter (not counting handtraps)🤔
I recently saw the video of IrooYGO which allows with Shifter and Dormouse to finish on Apollousa 3, 1 Malice on field and 1 in hand, Ransom and MTP-07
I invite you to watch if you are interested!
I think it's certainly possible to abuse I:P too, knowing that S:P can trigger the effect of Malice in the graveyard, but I haven't seen anything on Gryphon yet but that doesn't it doesn't seem impossible 🧐
This is cool however this build suffers from the innate cyberse problem of spending your entire extra deck turn 1. 😂