interesting.... I was doing this back in 2010 with PC runing RMLLabs SAC - software audio console and a laptop... Mixing infront of slipknot and Kill Switch Engage....using SSL Duende Native, Waves, TC, URS, Drum Triggers, CAB simulations , Aplitube, Tracks....plugins live with 1,5ms latency.
How do you route your audio back to your individual channels? I have audio from my Avantis to Studio One. Recorded a practice, and when I hit virtual sound check button, all it did was play the final mix from Studio One. I couldn’t make any adjustments on console, although I could make adjustments within Studio One and it would reflect through my main monitors
Make sure you're using Dante Virtual Soundcard on your host computer, and you have enough outputs available to route them back to the dante interface on the console. Within Studio One, you'll have to un-assign the main output from outputs 1-2, and then manually assign each channel to it's own output.
I generally like to keep acoustic/bass/vocals down the center, and pan guitars as you see them on the stage. If you have two electrics, pan one to the left and one to the right. I usually pan the drumset as if I was standing in front of the kit. Keyboards I usually run stereo and just pan hard L/R.
Been thinking of doing this.. but can I do gain staging using the playback recording? Reason is I have earlier sched than the band so I can record myself each individual instruments first then- can the gain staging can follow after using the recording? Thanks
@@BenSalzmann Hey Ben, awesome mix. I am a Stundent who still leans Sound mixing. Planning to buy a Avantis too. Could you please share your Show file please? If i have some questions, can you please help me? so that we can have a Chat ? Are u in FACEBOOK?
Hey Ben, i love the mix. Can you please tell, is it necessary to buy a Dante Card to record multitracks? Cant one just connect the PC with the Console over Network Cable and select the Console as the source ( input) in the DAW? As we do in Midas m32?
I mean if you're connecting the pc via ethernet it's gonna need a software like Dante to interpret that connection as an audio source but the alternative for multitracking is usually connectiong the pc via the USB B input on mixer boards. Hopefully that made sense
Hey Ben, do you have a Dante card in your mixer? Have you test the monitor mix app at all with the console? My church is looking to this board and Behringer. I have used the Allen and Heath GLD80 so I am used to the layouts and screen workflow. Looking forward to any additional content you post.
Ben, Will you explain how you did this for beginners in multi-tracking? What software did you record/playback the tracks with? You used Dante virtual sound card to do the routing. Will you elaborate on the process? Thanks. Matthew
Using Reaper to record the tracks. The Avantis basically becomes an audio interface on the Dante network, so within reaper I can just map the tracks to separate outputs and then pick them up on the board as inputs. It's pretty easy!
I don't remember the name of the default reverb processor.... but it was the "Hall 480" preset. blended with another processor running a more plate-sounding verb.
Is this an E-Drum or a real drum set? Would be interesting how the bass drum sounds without any processing. I mean with the dynamic EQ, and the wild EQ and the Compressor you seem to take away all the sound of the real thing.
It's a 1972 Ludwig kit, the kick was mic'd with an Audix D6. Using the EQ/processing to help the drum cut through the mix. Never judge an EQ by how it looks :)
Your mix and the console sounded awesome. My first time hearing this.
Thank you sir!
Beautiful
interesting....
I was doing this back in 2010 with PC runing RMLLabs SAC - software audio console and a laptop...
Mixing infront of slipknot and Kill Switch Engage....using SSL Duende Native, Waves, TC, URS, Drum Triggers,
CAB simulations , Aplitube, Tracks....plugins live with 1,5ms latency.
Nice mixing..good work
Nice tutorial. can you share the Multitrack that you used? Thank you.
Can you do a video on how you set this up?
Great mix, would love more toms towards the start though
This sounds insanely good bro
Thank you kind sir! Can't believe this was a year ago
Can you please explain in detail how you have it routed back to the board we can only get it to come in two channels one and two
that reverb is so crisp and clean, what did you use??
Avantis sounds solid
How do you setup a laptop only for this and how do you record without anything else except a laptop
Excelente
My church currently uses the m7cl so I’m curious how much of an upgrade preamp wise this ended up being? I’m guessing fairly significant?
How do you route your audio back to your individual channels? I have audio from my Avantis to Studio One. Recorded a practice, and when I hit virtual sound check button, all it did was play the final mix from Studio One. I couldn’t make any adjustments on console, although I could make adjustments within Studio One and it would reflect through my main monitors
Make sure you're using Dante Virtual Soundcard on your host computer, and you have enough outputs available to route them back to the dante interface on the console. Within Studio One, you'll have to un-assign the main output from outputs 1-2, and then manually assign each channel to it's own output.
Nice- can you share the pan settings? We use elec drums so just thinking how to pan properly the guitar, bass & keyboards. Thanks 🙏
I generally like to keep acoustic/bass/vocals down the center, and pan guitars as you see them on the stage. If you have two electrics, pan one to the left and one to the right. I usually pan the drumset as if I was standing in front of the kit. Keyboards I usually run stereo and just pan hard L/R.
How did you setup, I’ve been having trouble can you help?
I know it’s been awhile but I would love to know the verb(s) used on the lead vocal. Sounded great at the beginning especially.
I don't remember exactly, but it's the stock SMR verb plugin and I believe it was two different verbs a blend of a plate vocal and Hall 480 presets
Could I record without a Dante card
Been thinking of doing this.. but can I do gain staging using the playback recording? Reason is I have earlier sched than the band so I can record myself each individual instruments first then- can the gain staging can follow after using the recording? Thanks
how would you connect personal monitoring system?
Sounds great, Good job! I'm curious to your system file, Can you share it with me?
yeah man I'd be happy to share it. What's the best way to get it to you?
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@@BenSalzmann mee tooo please "Sounds great, Good job! , Can you share the show and sound files with me?"
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@@BenSalzmann Could you please give this show file to me too? samarajeewa2000@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot
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Hey man, would you be kind enough to share your show file? I wanna study in detail your settings
yeah man I'd be happy to share it. What's the best way to get it to you?
@@BenSalzmann Hey Ben, awesome mix. I am a Stundent who still leans Sound mixing. Planning to buy a Avantis too. Could you please share your Show file please? If i have some questions, can you please help me? so that we can have a Chat ? Are u in FACEBOOK?
Hey Ben, i love the mix. Can you please tell, is it necessary to buy a Dante Card to record multitracks? Cant one just connect the PC with the Console over Network Cable and select the Console as the source ( input) in the DAW? As we do in Midas m32?
No Any response? :-(
I mean if you're connecting the pc via ethernet it's gonna need a software like Dante to interpret that connection as an audio source but the alternative for multitracking is usually connectiong the pc via the USB B input on mixer boards. Hopefully that made sense
Hey Ben, do you have a Dante card in your mixer? Have you test the monitor mix app at all with the console? My church is looking to this board and Behringer. I have used the Allen and Heath GLD80 so I am used to the layouts and screen workflow. Looking forward to any additional content you post.
Jovan Bryant yessir, this board has the 64x64 Dante card.
What stage box are you using, GX?
Did you use Waves at all in this setup?
no sir, all stock FX in the Avantis (+DPack)
Ben, Will you explain how you did this for beginners in multi-tracking? What software did you record/playback the tracks with? You used Dante virtual sound card to do the routing. Will you elaborate on the process? Thanks. Matthew
Using Reaper to record the tracks. The Avantis basically becomes an audio interface on the Dante network, so within reaper I can just map the tracks to separate outputs and then pick them up on the board as inputs. It's pretty easy!
How do you do the split from FOH, via Dante?
Yes sir. I have a Dante card installed in the consul and I am using Dante virtual sound card
What reverb was used on vocals?
I don't remember the name of the default reverb processor.... but it was the "Hall 480" preset. blended with another processor running a more plate-sounding verb.
@@BenSalzmann thanks!
Is this an E-Drum or a real drum set? Would be interesting how the bass drum sounds without any processing. I mean with the dynamic EQ, and the wild EQ and the Compressor you seem to take away all the sound of the real thing.
It's a 1972 Ludwig kit, the kick was mic'd with an Audix D6. Using the EQ/processing to help the drum cut through the mix. Never judge an EQ by how it looks :)
@@BenSalzmann Didn't judge it by the view, just the first hits made me think. After that I saw the other stuff just wondering.
Nice sound! How many multiband eq/comp you can use in the same time? Or it is for every channel?
You can have 16 instances of DYN8
@@BenSalzmann Just wondering exactly how many DYN8 instances you were employing in this session? And on which inputs?
If I can remember off the top my head, I think I was running the Dyn8 on Kick, snare top, bass, keyboard, and vocals.
Love this board. Mix sounds great. BGVs could fix a few harmonies though haha
I believe this was the first time our band ever played the song, and by the next week it was awesome!
Needs more cowbell
Yo did you use protools or it’s all from the board?
All internal processing.
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I guess that answered my question about Waves.
What's the title of this song?
Way Maker by Leeland