Dihelson Mendonça Presents Herbie Hancock & Oscar Peterson Piano Duel - Billie´s Bounce
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- Hello, fiends! My name is Dihelson Mendonça. I´m a Jazz Pianist from Brazil. This time, I bring one most amazing piano meetings of all time! 2 of the greatest pianists, the incredible Oscar Peterson and Herbie Hancock play "Billie´s Bounce". It´s a true duel at the piano. Who won ? we!
Listening is believing!
This was apparently recorded on July 1, 1982, at the Kool Jazz Festival, NYC, and re-broadcast in 2000 on an NPR JazzSet hosted by Branford Marsalis. The final song in the set, I Got Rhythm, is another Hancock-Peterson duet, and can be listened to on NPR: search for "celebrating Oscar Peterson's 80th birthday."
Thanks for the tip. I found at: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4829211
I love the contrast between Oscar's more "inside" approach and Herbie's more "modern" or "outside" approach. It really isn't about who's "better". I like outside playing better because I'm "young", but you have to love that old-school Tatum'/ Peterson way of doing things as well.
both absolute keyboard saints in their own rights, who's to compare?? just beautiful
We'll miss you pops... you're an inspiration an to us all
You are the greatest. Merry Christmas Oscar. Rest In Peace.
lol! i like this comment that u made. Let's not forget 'history': Art Tatum and Jelly Roll Morton. Herbie's ideas are CRAZZZYYY!! i don't know if even Chick Corea or Kieth Jarred can equal. As a technician, Oscar takes the cake. Herbei's ideas are amazing!!
Oscar's combination of incredible technique, improvisational skill, and sense of composition leaves him in a league reserved only for the select few. An artist of this stature never dies. His recordings leave us with his never ending presence.
Oscar messed up Herbie's pants when he pulled out his double hand repertoire, fo sho!!
It's always gonna be Oscar - until Funk comes to town, then it flips, they are awesome pianists and i think we should love them both for their contrasting styles and what they bring to the table
Awesome listen - thanks alot for uploading this!!!
Really, one of the most amazing musical videos at TH-cam. Unforgettable! Fantastic !!
not just the fastest but one the most precise and at the same time soulful masters of all time...as exhibited on this cut...anyone can play fast but with originality, timing with exquisite progressions...whew R.I.P.
you'll be missed but never forgotten as long as there's music
Two of my favorites jazz pianist of all time, but long live the great Oscar Peterson.
simply awesome
thanks for the post
thank you CoreaHancock for this incredible recording!!
It is called 'duel' but it is very friendly and they are playing together like kids.
beautiful.
Herbie played a Mozart Piano Concerto with the Chicago Symphony when he was 11!
This man had the fastest hands . Bless his sweet soul
peterson's style has always been based on such a bluesy background, and always brings the blue out of everythings, whilst herbie, kings of keyboard (in my view), has majorly influenced the jazz we haer today. his style is completely different, using chomatics in completely different ways from peterson.
Sempre straordinari!!!
It is insanity to not apprciate the pure wonder of this historic musical moment. The pure gift of each gaint is so easily heard in the musical Conversation, I will never be the same. This is paino from the heart that expresses a life time of musical conversations were words have no place, and with that I will speak no more. Big E Jr.
fabulous.
I WISH THAT COULD'VE BEEN APART OF THIS CONVERSATION, OMG!!!!!!!
This, I believe, was the 1982 Kool Jazz Festival. Herbie played solo piano, Dolphin Dance, and a really long Stella By Starlight like ravel or scriabin, Oscar with NHOP and quartet. This duet was the finale. Rhythm changes was the encore. A concert I will always remember.
Thanks for adding! Can anyone figure out the rhythm of the low chords beings played at 2:35 to 2:42? It's crazy rhythmic modulation and I can't quite get it transcribed. Thanks!
This is an astounding piece of Musical History... Wonderful Post!!!
This is some joyous music from 2 Masters having a really good time with each other.... Bravo!
Deservedly so.
RIP, Oscar. He'll forever in our hearts.
Well, it´s extremely rare!! I found the audio on Emule, then after many years I edited, and created this slide show. As you can see, it´s synchronized. I have no idea when this meeting took place, but I´d like to know if there´s more recordings of the two guys. Amazing, no ? Thanks.
I can,the "perly sound" is Oscar de harmony is Herbie
Oscar Peterson is not anywhere near the greatest. He is a masterful technician, but he has been playing the same outdated style for his whole career. Great at what he does, but great in the overall journey of improvised music? No.
The reason he is so good at two handed octave lines is not only because he has spent a lot of time practicing it, but also because he is constantly playing licks, rather than truly improvising like Herbie.
Ur dumb
Soy completemente de acuerdo con Chiivas, pero, I think that it's best to see the two generationally different players as just that. Oscar IS jazz blues, while Herbie takes the blues harmonically to the next level. He's able to take it outside in a way that Oscar doesn't have as a part of his repetoire . . .
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Yes, I realise that Herbie uses a few blues based licks in this clip especially. My qualm with Peterson is that he bases the larger part of his whole improvisational style upon these licks, and his solos become merely a connect the dots of his bag of licks.
Herbie, like Keith Jarrett, does not use this approach. Though he has certain licks, his solos are always fresh, and he always has an ideas based approach in which he spontaneously creates, varies and contrasts his melodic material.
oscar keeps the time and the blues
The 20th Century has produced Sinatra, Elvis, Liberace, Pavarotti, BB King, Count Basie, Oscar Peterson, Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Ella Fitzgerald, and the list goes on. I see not ONE star of the 21st Century that will share their spotlight, nor carry their torch.
"Who won ? we!"
Exactly!
Incredible! it´s the first time I talk with someone who speak french, but I don´t know french ( ehejjej ), but I´m understanding ( I am Brazilian, people here speak portuguese ). Well, you can´t forget an incredible pianist from your country which plays Jazz like few others: MARTIAL SOLAL... do you know him ?? You should research for a name called NIKOLAI KAPUSTIN , he´s a russian pianist, classical, which composes jazz music, incredible!
Man, I listened a hundred times, but I don´t know who´s won this battle. Early I thought that peterson had more "punch", but Herbie has more diferent ideas. Oscar peterson criticised modern pianists, he said that "they don´t have "swing"... well, Herbie´s technique is far from ideal, but his swing feel is diferent...modern, may be...
0:23 to 2:21 the audio is all screwed up. Anyone else have this problem?
I love the beginning bassline syncapation, just one note ahead of the beat the whole time, awesome!
Hello, Firends, it´s me "CoreaHancock" . Well, as I said, I found the audio file on emule. I hope you could find it there.And I made the syncronized slideshow, with pictures of both. Thanks!
yes Arnold Shoenberg did do 12 tone etc, which was very outside, the difference is people like herbie and oscar improvise over functional chords/harmony and it sounds outside. You can't compare the two, but i guarantee you that these two can improvise over Shoenberg's harmonies, do you think Shoenberg could have improvised like these guys? I don't mean sitting down composing, I mean just "blowing" off the top of his head. Also remember, people like Shoenberg, Ravel, etc. were influenced by jazz.
Nah, I'm sure it's on a CD somewhere, or at least it's been ripped to MP3 and being doing the rounds ever since napster was just a little baby! I remember listening to it with the title 'Oscar Peterson, Billie's Bounce' and wondering at first how the hell he could play like that with only two hands. Sounds dumb I know, but then it is Oscar... and most people probably think Art Tatum is a duet when they first hear it! Now finally I know who the other genius of the pair is... should've known!
Thank you for all the pleasure, Oscar. You were unique. It will be a fascinating four hander when you join Art Tatum Up There ... Mike Jones, Jackie Jones and Norman Giller of SootsJazz. We are organsing a tribute featuring UK Oscar soundalike Craig Milverton at the Lights Theatre, Andover, on January 25. British TV has been disgraceful with their lack of proper tribute programmes to a true genius.
Towards the end of this, Oscar copied (or borrowed and elaborated on) alot of Herbie's ideas.
It's just that his dexterity and articulation was a bit sharper than Herbies which made his (Oscar's) ideas transfer more clearly to the listener.
Herbie's stuff was alot more complex.
And If you listen Herbie actually did the 2 handed run first.
Actually did it in harmony way before Oscar did in the piece.
Herbie's choice in harmony when he was comping also brought a different listening perspective to Oscar's bluesy chops... in addition to the choice of Harmonic interest in his (Herbie's) bass lines...
Love them both..... and nothing can ever take away from Oscar's legendary influence, but Herbie for the 'win' in my opinion..
Superb, Oscar just incredible
Art tatum will probably be the only one to take oscar out in terms of technique...I personally don't think chick and herbie and mccoy can stand a chance with oscar or art tatum...they are just too complete...Another person you should check out is marian petrescu..I think he is one of the only one that can attempt to take oscar out ! Check out his version of caravan !
well...monk may not have had chops, but there are many many more peoeple I would rather listen to than oscar. He uses similar blues licks on all his different songs, and plays very fast. Speed is the last thing I think about when I listen to a jazz piano player...haha...anyways, I love monk, but bill evans and phineas newborn jr are my favorites by far...
I disagree, I love osacr, but he repeats similar blues licks throughout all his years of playing...herbie is a great modern player, but in my opinion, they hardly compare to Phineas Newborn Jr, Bill Evans, Thelonius Monk, and duke ellington...again, dont get me wrong, I LOVE oscar peterson and herbir hancock, just, wouldnt say he cant be matched...
These are two masters. Both play a different style of jazz, but both have their unique merits. Its silly to compare them. But because they are both the best at what they do they work well together. Oscar is gone but Herbie is still going strong. By the way, Herbie was one of Oscar's favorite pianists!
This is the kind of bebop Jack Kerouac wrote about, especially in "On The Road". Ingenius music. His prose is written so that when read over bebop jazz, it rings with poetry and improv.
Can you pick out which pianist is playing when? It sounds like Mr. Peterson was the one who was scramblin' those eggs. R.I.P. been surfing all night...determined to hear it all
The winner: Us the listner. :)
RIP Oscar Peterson.
The Man is gone but his legend'll live on as long as this planet's got ears and souls.
Ta fer posting this ChickHerbie! ^_^
Be Well.
i was confused at first at what u said. i knew ed did rolls, but im like how does a bass player do a roll? but then im like role!! anyways now i get u
I really can't believe my ears ...
Noone is better than anyone .. stop this childish debate :D .. better isn't to be used between GIANTS !!!
His trio with Ray Brown and Ed Thigpen is the hardest swinging piano trio... with both Ray and Ed taking prominant rolls
damn..they r SSOOOO good...if i were 2 relate this, it' s like Cloud Strife Dualing with Dante (from DMC) hahaha!!
Oscar's hero was Art Tatum. There you have it! Jelly Roll, Oscar, Art, I wish I could play like any of them.....
An argument can def made that Oscar Peterson is arguably the greatest pianist of time regardless of the genre…That dude is just simply a God on the keys! Sounds like three people playing at once!!
When you get called to play a gig with Harry Connick then give me a call.
killing
Really are P&H? in wich abum I can find that? when and where was that? is there a video?
Sorry, without spaces, youtube wouldnt let me post it
IIRC this is from a Kool Jazz Festival in the '80s and the tape is regularly traded.
It is a bad comment, man!
I heard hancock's and peterson's own style!
Very nice recording!
I love Herbie Hancock. And Oscar Peterson is my greatest influence in music of all time. I have nothing but repect for theese two individuals.
But this aint music.....This is just showing off.
fantastico oscar peteson...peccato che non avrò mai l'occasione per ascoltarlo dal vivo. W il jazz
beautiful.
but I can't tell difference of sounds by Oscar and Herbie.
can you?
left channel is Peterson
right channel Hancock
where can i get this recording?? is this on an album?
they have quiet different grooves and feel 2!! Herbie is more of a funk groove, whereas Oscar is more on traditional swing..
You know for about a week or month after this Herbie Hancock thought about taking up pottery. How great can pianist be that would make someone as marvelous as Hancock think about kilns and glaze?
Towards the end Oscar copied alot of Herbie's ideas.
If you listen Herbie actually did the 2 handed run first.
Actually did it in harmony way before Oscar did in the piece.
Herbie's choice in harmony when he was comping actually brought a different listening perspective to Oscar's bluesy chops... in addition to the choice of Harmonic interest in his bass lines...
does anyone know if this is on an album
I have a lot of amazing Jazz records which I adore, and both Peterson and Hancock are musical idols of mine ... however I was extremely disappointed that this was not a video. Please, please, please do not post slideshows on TH-cam. I can listen to audio-only elsewhere if I choose. I got my hopes up for a video of the two geniuses at work only to be utterly depressed by a slideshow ...
Guys both of you are matchless and are not imitated!
i love them enthusiastic for life playng piano
I don't see this as a duel. They're both brilliant.
Thanks for posting - fantastic.
i will say oscar is a lot happier sounding than herbie, but herbie is totally different. i like oscar more, but herbie is just more modern
shoenberg did not make any records :)
Pure crap.....Ask Herbie, he'll tell you.
I can write for you any sheet music
Well, if Oscar Peterson were to be known as one of the 2 greatest all time pianist, who are the another one ?? Art Tatum ? Bill Evans ? Herbie Hancock ? Chick Corea ????
Hummmmm
def cecil taylor
Can You post this on METACAFE please?
is a tribute performed by You?
Haha, youtube hatin' on the meta!!!
RIP Oscar, this is incredible that the passing of this giant, almost a year to the day that we also lost James Brown. when I was just starting out playing, and a music major(jazz piano), my piano instructor turned me on to Oscar peterson, and I started learning pieces from his songbook. His playing was just mind-boggling!! I will miss him dearly, but his music and legend will live forever, for that thank you Oscar.
@DrumTchr ...Title not mistaken, duel is between chords not players...and wouldn't have use the word "chops", not blowing anything. Wouldn't compare styles, more so the trail blazer and the path finder...figure Herbie had to have listened and learned from him in his life...and quite sure he loved his work.
which is left and which is right?
hahaha thanks..i think this is great...two different styles, different generations, two different kinds of swing...but they make beautiful music together
right into my favorites ! I fell into JAZZ in 1971 - when I was near Oscar at an ''intimate'' practice in Belgium - I saw Herbie a couple weeks ago at Riviera Maya- and felt the same emotions - This is so great - thanks !!!
AMAZING! Few questions, is there a way to download this file somehow, where did you get the audio file exactly (somthing like emule???) and could you post it on metacafe??? Thanks
Simplemente exquisito escuchar a ambos músicos. No se trata de comparar, porque ambos estilos son diferentes. Aunque me gusta mucho más el swing y el fraseo que tiene Peterson, pero nada despreciable lo que hace Hancock. Sencillamente los admiro a ambos, los dos han sido extraordinarios seres humanos y los dos se han entregado sin condiciones al arte de la improvisación.
are you trying to say Herbie doesn't swing? you must be out of your damn mind!! Go read what Miles thought of Oscar....Oscar is one of the most virtuoso pianist of our time..Herbie is one of the most innovative and creative improviser, composer, and pianist....shouldn't try to compare though...learn from both...as im listening herbie i hanging with him and actually kills it
Really? It's a duel? So Oscar curbstomped the match in the first 6 rounds doing all his speedy runs and insane licks, but then Hancock evened it out playing something innovative in the next 4 rounds, so it kind of ended in a tie?
Oh wait. Just why are "fiends" watching this video?
How much would I have loved to see this LIVE!!! My two favorite alltime piano players playing one of Bird's favorites: YEAH!
Not one to avoid an erroneous statement...I stand corrected in my reference to "chops". You are totally correct!
simply the BEST....
insane
i agree
Thanks ALOT