That is so true! Between the screaming aliens, the cyclops that can see the future, the widow in the web, etc. So many beautiful ideas and so much world building in such a short movie.
Honestly I am mystified as to how a person could spend this much time, money, and effort to replicate and test a specific weapon from a beloved cult classic film... and not even watch the film. Wow.
Saw this movie in theaters when it came out. To this day I consider it the most criminally underrated fantasy of all time. For those who see it, yes, Lyssa's voice is dubbed, and yes, the actress who played her is bitter AF about that TO THIS DAY.
She has every right to be. Lysette Anthony's voice was perfectly understandable to Americans, even in the 80s. Robbie Coltrane was overdubbed by Michael Elphick - no one really knows why.
for those that don't know, the glaive in the movie Krull can be thrown, but w/ time, it is controlled by one's thoughts and eventually uses it's own will to guide it w/ no concentration or effort by the wielder needed and doesn't miss. The perfect weapon. Who needs the force here? It already does that, only better. Oh, and it is also resistant to magic.
yeah that what make this work in a way cause unline standard thrown weapon you can infact retrieve it with a thought or make it change direction to its target. its main weakness is the amount of concentration needed and that leave you open for some attack
When I was a kid, Krull was one of my favourite movies, and I found the Glaive super cool even if it got stuck during the main battle. I feel vindicated to see that even without magic is actually a deadly weapon!
Getting a little laugh out of your "Damn it! This isn't supposed to be that good!" reactions. But you're honest about the thing. I love your channel because of the stuff you work on.
Actually the term Glaive used to describe a throwing weapon originated with the Krull movie, it then became such a popular term it spread into gaming and movies over time.
@@florianreimann3166 I mean Glaive originally was used to describe a sword, then a spear....so using it to describe long-bladed throwing weapon things isn't that big of a leap given the parkour from sword to spear historically.
It was just a throwing weapon NAMED the Glaive. It's not a KIND of weapon, but a named artifact. Calling them glaives is just as silly as calling arming swords "excaliburs".
@@Dies1r4eThe word has 4 forms in etymology: Late Latin glavus (some kind of weapon) Old French glaive (lance, sword) Middle English gleyve (lance, sword-bladed polearm) Modern English glaive (sword-bladed polearm) So, yeah, sword-bladed polearm has been locked in for a LONG time.
As he then goes on to explain, while yes, a throwing weapon can be dangerous and even deadly, carrying a weapon around, just to throw is away and maybe make it useful is rather silly. Unless you know you will be in a 1 on 1 situation, you are putting yourself in a disadvantage with something that might not even work if the circumstances don't align
@@Tikuros A throwing weapon can be useful depending on how many you can very and the exact nature of the weapon. But I do feel that most like shuriken, kunai, and throwing knives are more useful as a distraction than a proper weapon. Something to be used while getting away or to buy time to get to a better weapon.
@@Riceball01 The major issue is always that if all you need is a distraction then dirt and gravel are free, take no materials or time that could be better used for a proper weapon and probably work better than a single object, obviously you lose the penetrating, instant kill power of a super deadly ninja star, but a cloud of sand right in your face can be very distracting. If resources are tight enough you're thinking of scavenging from enemies then invest what you have in a survival tool like a knife or hatchet, which can be used for more than throwing away and could even be used to craft a better weapon, like the legendary "pointy stick I found in the woods."
Why yes that is in fact why he says he doesn't understand the fascination because he has tried out a lot of throwing weapon and doesn't really like any of them even if they are "effective."
@@Riceball01 I feel like it might be possible to carry a throwing assistance device and basically just load a magazine of them. Small shuriken on some kind of bracer mounted launcher. Even elastic could do the job but you'd probably only be able to have a "clip size" of like four.
@@tucoramirez2513 hahaha that's patently false. he was definitely guilty of a fair bit of self-plagiarising in his early career but not with krull. i mean there are a couple of similar themes in wrath of khan/search for spock but aliens? you're tripping
@@beardynn it was indeed, and early roles for robbie coltrane (james bond, harry potter) & alun armstrong (braveheart, patriot games) as well. weird how none of the main cast went anywhere but several of the supporting cast did
It may look like sharp giant cat claws stuck to shiny melted cheese (actually looked like the ones used in Jeepers Creepers 2 movie), but it got the job done in a deadly fashion! Thanks for bring back memories of the movie with some very interesting set/ architectural designs.
Yes however I would say that the jeepers one wouldn’t be that effective because the it has horn shapes rather than blade shapes meaning it so it only has points not edges 👍🏼 thanks for watching man I appreciate it
@@ScreenTested yeah, also could we avoid Jeepers Creepers altogether since those films should never have even existed due to the creator/write/director being a real creeper himself? Loved this video though. The 'Glaive' is cool. :)
Appreciate this. Try not to laugh but, Krull is my favorite movie of all time! Saw it in the theatres and have been spellbound by this movie (and soundtrack) since. Glad the practicality of this silly weapon proved true.
You know, something I like about the internet is that it is showing me that me and my childhood best friend were not the only ones ever to see and love Krull.
Fun fact: the infamous Castlevania throwing Cross is based on a German weapon known as the Wurfkreuz...not an iron one (which there are depictions and historical ones that exist) but a SURVIVAL version which was two stakes tied together in the middle and sharpened on all four sides. The original Japanese handbook for the game shows this wooden version. The wooden version is meant for hunting small game in the woods apparently...like rabbits or other small animals and is heavy enough you can use it to bludgeon with while the ends can pierce things as well. For Castlevania this combined the classic stake through the heart and a Christian cross into one weapon which fit nicely into the whole killing Dracula goal.
Related, there was also the Hurlbat which looked like a short hafted throwing axe made entirely from metal with a spike at the end of the grip. And those documented as far back as the 1300s.
Krull was supposed to be a generic Dungeons & Dragons movie. When the writers needed a MacGuffin, they looked in the Players Handbook weapons table and picked the name "glaive" at random because it sounded cool. The D&D glaive is a French pole arm. That's where it came from.
The reason that weapon works so well is it uses the physics of a Shuriken. They come in different types, like three prong or four pronged sharp edges, I had one with 8 sharp points so like the Krull blade it would almost 100 percent stick into whatever I threw it at IF it hit with the sharp points and on a surface they could penetrate enough to stick. If it was, say sold steel, nope it bounces right off, but if it were wood, it sticks nicely. I got good at throwing three and four point stars. I wasn't a big fan of throwing spikes or knifes. I liked the idea that if I missed one, the other would hit.
The prince of the movie is using a sword as main weapon. So he will not be disarmed after throwing. But when the evil Slayers attack, he goes on a quest to regain the "5 bladed sword" (called in the german version). That thing is magic. Workin on a mind of its own. The version you build, is way more tame. But your test shows the lethality. Basicaly its a star shuriken of the larger kind. For handling, shorten the sharp edges and leave the center just play metal. Great episode. Keep up the fun stuff and keep yourself save.
For sure. On a true custom built version, you'd only sharpen the last couple inches of the blade tips. As that's all you'd really need for penetration. Damned thing worked a treat for being made out of dollar store steak knives and electrical tape though. ;)
Who else here thinks that Tyranth needs to test more throwing weapons? Maybe the Xena chakram, and by that I mean the chakram as used by Xena and not a real chakram.
The lore, if you're interested. From the knowings of Ynyr: 'The Glaive is a holy artifact from a time long past, when Men first walked the surface of Krull aeons and aeons ago. It is what is called a 'gaeaform', an object that embodies the very spirit and will of its planet - as the sword Excalibur is to the world called Earth, so the Glaive is to Krull. And as such, no evil can stand against it, be it the darkness in the hearts of Men or that of creatures beyond mortal ken. It can only be wielded by a champion of its choosing, a man of honest character and noble intention - and once chosen, the two are bonded for life. There is no fear of its destruction, for it is a thing of Krull, and shall return to Krull if 'tis ever lost. Its champion need only seek it again, and it will know, and come once more to his hand.'
Kull was one of the first fantasy movies I’ve seen and it became a favorite of mine, I was also born in ‘83 so that makes it a cool bit of trivia to me. I had no idea the real thing would be that effective pretty cool stuff!
While not lightsaber tipped there is a group in Star Wars called the Zeison Sha who used a weapon called the discblade. They can use telekenesis to manipulate the throw to hit multiple targets, or make it return, and they could imbue it with the force to make it resistant to lightsabers so it couldn't be destroyed by a parry.
I made something like this as a kid and brought it to school.. Got sent to the principal's office for repeatedly throwing it onto a clip board and also letting my classmate in on the fun... Cried a lot when dad broke it in front of me in the principal's office
Nothing like seeing someone skeptical about a weapon's effectiveness only to be proven wrong. The look on his face was priceless. To be fair there is one point I think he failed to mention about throwing weapons. If you don't sufficiently injure your target you've just given them a weapon to use against you. Great video.
I love watching Tyranth discover why a dozen different groups of people, across the whole world, with wildly varied technologies....all invent "throw sharp object at enemy at relatively close range" because it works pretty well is why, when you have the right throw-y thing and a tiny bit (like 10 minutes throwing at a tree) training.
My god. The blade literally did the anime thing of cutting something without cutting it down. XD Certainly seems interesting anyway. Usually when I think throwing weapons, I think slings, which are usually used to harass formations. This actually seems a reasonably irritating weapon to use though, didn't expect that. Particularly from a skirmishing perspective where you might not want to close ranks, but still want to weaken another formation. Though having to wear hand protection does make sense, given the hands are pretty vulnerable in most combat contexts.
I just stumbled upon your channel with this video, thanks to YT random suggestions, and I have to say that I like your style. I loved the movie back in the day and seeing the iconic weapon brought to life has been a great trip back to that time of watching the movie. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
From my observations, it seems like the main down side to thrown weapons is the low mass to blade thickness ratio. To get the mass high enough to do serious damage, the bladed portion tends to be too thick. Where this glaive seems to work because there's a ton of mass and the blades are very fine
It's great to see you with your own show. I hope it does well. Even before the 'glaive' in 'Krull' (1983), 'The Beastmaster' (1982) had another, similar throwing weapon, called a 'caber', which is often also referred to as a 'glaive', because humans are dumb. If you want a construction challenge, try making one of those 'Beastmaster' 'cabers'. The 'caber' from 'Beastmaster' is about as much like an actual caber - a large log, as tossed in the Highland games - as the 'glaive' from 'Krull' looks like an actual glaive, but the 'caber' looks much cooler as a weapon, and it might even be more practical and effective, despite its radical design. The 'Krull' 'glaive' is just a vaguely-sentient, magical hira-shuriken. The advantage and disadvantage of the caber-glaive is that it is two similar metal pieces, each like two small, steel francisca / throwing axes back-to-back with a common handle. The two pieces are pinned together at one end of the handles, with the double-headed, radial blades at the other end, so it can fold in half by the two pieces rotating around the joining pin. This could mean it will either fold in half during flight (or not), meaning you halve the chances of the blades hitting the target and maybe just hit the target with the blunt end where the pin is (disadvantage); or it stays open in flight and folds up on impact, so one bladed end will embed in the target, then the other end will swing down and slash into the target aswell, with all the rotational momentum it had during flight. This will mean you get one hacking wound from embedding the blade when the first end hits, and a slashing wound right next to it as the other blade rotates shut (advantage). Much bleeding ensues. In the first scenario, you'll either get two shallower wounds from both blades hitting together, side-by-side, and sharing the kinetic energy of the blow, or a blunt force trauma from the blunt ends hitting together. In the second scenario, you would get a deeper hacking wound from one blade embedding with much of the kinetic energy of the throw, then a second, deeper, slashing wound from the second blade closing shut with all the torque from the rotation. It would be interesting to see which scenario actually happened or what the relative probability was of each happening. 'The Beastmaster' 'caber' was a heavier, more solid construction than the 'Krull' 'glaive', so it would probably have a much greater momentum on impact. Of course, it was also magical and could return to the thrower if it wasn't insta-killing everyone it flew past, just like the 'glaive' from 'Krull', but the blades on the 'caber' were much more choppy-hacky, and less stabby-slicey, like the 'glaive', so they would probably cause a bigger wound with more trauma and blood loss. The 'caber' would also be much easier and safer to throw hard (and carry), because all four blades and most of the weight would be at one end when you throw it, like a francisca or tomahawk.
Thank you for the presentation, you kinda answered your own question on how “glaive” originated as a knife on a pole. What you have is a device the extends the users reach beyond their normal reach.
It's funny as I've seen the movie several times over my life , but when I stop to think about it. I don't remember much about the movie or the story despite the fact that I like the story. It might be mostly because I watched it in my early years like 30 to 35 years ago the start. Gonna have to find it to watch again. Thanks for letting me realize how out of touch I am with my childhood movies.
I had a DnD character who was a Tibbet, a Catwere, which is a halfling or hobbit that turns into a House Cat and can become a Giant version of the House Cat. Think Tiger Sized House Cat. I was a Himalayan Cat, looks like a fluffy Persian like cat crossed with a Simiamese cat. I also had a Halfing form with cat-like features like Cat Eyes, Cat Ears, and what today you'd probablly call a Furry. I was NOT a Furry in real life. I didnt' make this character for anything remotely like that, but I thought it would be cool to play a Tibbet as a "Were Cat" rather than Were Tiger or Were Wolf" or something more familiar. My character at some point got some fur prints, or 'fur tattoos' as it was discolored fur basically that looked like the Krull weapon. I had 4 of these. I could animate them so they left the body, metamorphosing real ewapons, which flew and my character controlled telekinetically so I didn't need to catch them or use my paws. That means I could use these in my two Cat forms, small and large. But the smaller form's weapons were smaller and did less damage. I thought of my larger cat form as a Battle Cat. too much He-Man I know, and yes I had seen Krull and I was going for this same type of weapon. It took a while to find a means to get these weapons. They were like Dancing Swords and could fight on their own, or I could direct one or more of them with a Concentration check, and the modifier for it was more difficult the more I tried to control. I generally speaking controlled one, doing so means it used my Attack modifier, otherwise it had a default modifier, which was lower than mine. If I failed, the Action was wasted as I tried to gain control of it. My character did about as much damage in the game as a large Tiger so I could fight, but I wasn't some super-powered character. It was more the cool factor I liked. I loved being a small cat going into places, hanging out and its just a cat everyone. No one notices the cat in most urban areas that is out of order. I even recruited a gang or pack of other feline cats in my local city and had a little gang of them who could spy and other things for me. My class was Thief or Rogue/Psionicist. I had telekinetic powers and those weapons were created for a psionic to control. This could have easily been done with only magic, but at that time that is what I was playing. I basically used my psionics to enhance my thief much like a Mage/Thief might, so I wasn't mental blasting people. I could not read minds, but eventually did get a medallion that allowed me to ESP (read minds). I liked that item a lot. I had a Hat of Disguise too, Cloak of Displacement, and eventually two Axes of Hurling for my Hafling form. So when I see the Krull weapon it brings back memories like that for me.
Did a bit of digging on the etymology, following a hunch that Glaive and Cleave are near homonyms.. Glaive seems to come from the Latin Gladius, and had been used to refer to swords, spears, lances and such. So yeah, polearm with a blade. It also was influenced by Latin words for club, cudgel and other sticks one would brandish. Meanwhile Cleave comes from the PIE root "gleubh", which on first glance is already looking more like Glaive. The "gleubh" root is also used for cutting, gouging, carving, peeling, splitting, and such. This all paints the picture that these two words were used in tandem to describe things that cut and the act of cutting. A glaive is something cleaves, and likewise it takes whatever form enables that, whether it's a one-handed butcher's tool, or a big two-handed polearm with a swept blade, or a 5 bladed throwing "star."
0:08 May I suggest adding a safety feature where you can close the blades while removing the stuck blade? This current configuration has many safety concerns
I would use a thicker blade. Also, you joined it at the center, but I suspect the movie build would have the tangs individually mounted into each tine of of the center piece. I think the blades in the movie were more curved and meant to slice, not impale..which is why they went with Glaive as a description. And when he throws the glaive, its not strictly aim and luck..he is actually mentally/magically controlling where it hits..so in a sense, the magical force between him and the glaive is the "pole arm". If i made one modification to both the movie design and your design, I'd cover the back edge of the blace with a little area that you can use as a handling area. If you think of the center piece as a piece of jewelry made of gold..I'd extend some of the gold in each tine to coat the back of the blade to give you a handling area. The final thing would be, if possible, I would design the center piece that at least makes a balance between each blade, and also is designed to be aerodynamic in a way that keeps it going straight whenever you throw it. The fantasy land ideas I have, but don't know how to do, is to put a gyroscopic and servo motor system, and laser targeting system in the center piece that actually allows you to use a selector switch so that you can throw it perfectly straight and then have it fly vertically..or switch it and throw it straight, but have it go perfectly straight horizontal. Also, spinning the blades faster than you actually threw them (like a buzz saw).
I might suggest alternating hands, just to reduce strain on one side. Byt otherwise, excellent video, thanks for exploring this wonderful, memory-filled item!
I worked at a drive in movie when Krull was in general release, I saw about 30 times there and many more later. I even had the paperback by Alan Dean Foster.
I do suggest watching the movie in question. Is it the greatest movie ever committed to celluloid? No. Is it a delightful bit of fantasy movie cheese? Yes, yes it is.
I generally agree with your evaluation of throwing weapons: If one is throwing weapons in Mass at a enemy formation they make better sense. Those are great for war but they're expensive and you need a lot of training. If individual soldiers hold a couple javelins behind their shield or better yet some throwing axes in their belt they can lob them in mass at an enemy. It's kind of irrelevant whether it hits with the edge when you're throwing an ax at a group formation because you're essentially throwing a metal brick with one sharp edge. So if it hits someone in the head with the top back or handle of the axe it will still hurt them; possiby breaking bones or causing a concussion. If you're just trying to get a formation to break ranks and leave the battlefield that's effective enough. If you have two shield formations fighting in close proximity to each other you don't need as much range as to necessitate bows, crossbows or guns. If an axe is thrown the axe can be collected later and even if the shaft breaks that's easy enough to repair in the field. Unlike arrows that are often broken after the first shot in battle. But to reiterate I agree that having a personal throwing weapon to try to hit a single opponent with is kind of folly I'd rather hang on to it and fight with the weapon then to throw it.
Thrown weapons have some advantages: - make them of leftover pig iron - make them with the most sharp blade that gets chipped, bent and broken after one hit - zero embellishments - bother not about picking them up, let them rust off where they fall - it's a RANGED WEAPON minus the bulky force-multiplying instrument that eventually runs out of ammo - can still be used as a last last resort melee weapon
The thrown weapon is quite simply the EDC pocket pistol from the time before guns become powerful, reliable and small enough. Its got a fascination because its at least most of cheap, one handed, effective enough, with better range than anything else as easy to carry, and it is a good backup weapon even if you could have a gun/bow or sticking to more melee ranges a real glaive (or even just a big stick) so won't throw it often its handy to have in a pinch. Plus most throwing weapons are also useful enough as tools you'd probably use around camp...
Never saw throwing weapons as anything but a secondary since as you say-you toss it and then it's gone unless you go dig it out of your enemy's carcass. Doesn't mean they can't be effective in someways,good for distraction for example.
Damn, just saw first time how your name is spelled. I've pondered that a lot. Is it Tyren, Tyran and lots of other speculations on my part. Tyranth sounds cool, like some kind of Kaiju. It has bugged me all this time, a lot, every video I thought that. Greetings from the opposite (wrong) side of the world, Finland.
1. Watching the movie is a must! 2. The weapon is steeped in some serious magic. 3. You don't actually throw the weapon as much as it just leaves your hand and does its work. 4. The glaive can eviscerate an army of anything in seconds and is the ultimate fantasy weapon!
There use to be glave and glaive. In old French, glaive was a generic term for any short bladed weapon where as glave was the English term spelling for the polearm. In modern English, both spelling usually refer to the polearm.
The look on your face after going right through the armour lol. It's the "Fuck....I don't want to admit this" face. Also, I haven't watched krull in forever, but I'd say it's definitely worth a watch. It's early fantasy, but man, that shit gave me nightmares as a kid lol
Strictly speaking the practicality of a thrown weapon came down to three things. Surprise, Range, and Lethality. You would be looking to surprise, and or kill/hamper your opponent in some way to either end a fight quickly or give yourself time to run the hell away. Miyamoto Musashi for example, became known for his ability to throw his tanto or wakizashi with frightening accuracy. Even if he missed, the surprise factor was enough to allow him to end a duel.
The next step is to design a throwing aid, like an atlatl for the krull glaive. Maybe you can give it more power that way, especially if you are rebuilding it with more robust blades. Also, would it work just as well if it was just pointed, and not bladed? Maybe then can help with safety when throwing.
Throwing weapons are effective and are for Short Range effective use. Throwing Darts, Shurikens and the like, or throwing axes are among the best, but a Saw Blade if handled correctly and if you have a proper glove you can do some damage with that thing to unarmored people. Take one and throw it. See what happens to tender body areas, bad things. We practiced throwing Shurikens and other 'ninja weapon's', but I am really good at throwing Javelins in real life, and use something like an Atlatl which increases the range, makes if fly faster too. I can use the Nerf version, foam weapon, and peg someone up to like 50 to 75 feet away or so. But if you are 50 feet or less I can, say 20 feet. I most liklely will peg you. It is imaginary damage as it is a foam weapon. But I got you.
here is a fun fact, the hero's weapon in the movie krull was originally meant to be a sword, but after a late night and watching an old episode of star trek, season 2 Fridays child, the glaive was born, now the only other time i have seen this weapon used was in ready player one where it was used to cut off i-roc's arm.
. 1:50 "I don't understand the explicit purpose of having a weapon to throw away." Now I understand he is talking about smaller weapons like knives and such. But some people out there will say "But what about the Pilum?" And to counter that. It's a spear... It doesn't Need to be thrown to be effective. But it does help in FORMATION warfare. But throwing weapons with magic... different story altogether.
The cruel GLAIVE was based on Sumerian weapon it was a secondary weapon and used for hunting thrown like a battle ring or a fribee, and retrieved after use. Original material was Damascus or Obsidian.
You REALLY need to watch Krull, it's a true classic of sci-fi fantasy.
That is so true! Between the screaming aliens, the cyclops that can see the future, the widow in the web, etc. So many beautiful ideas and so much world building in such a short movie.
Honestly I am mystified as to how a person could spend this much time, money, and effort to replicate and test a specific weapon from a beloved cult classic film... and not even watch the film. Wow.
One of my favorite 80s movies!
Strangely, this video is my first time ever hearing of its existence
Was about to post this exact comment
Saw this movie in theaters when it came out.
To this day I consider it the most criminally underrated fantasy of all time.
For those who see it, yes, Lyssa's voice is dubbed, and yes, the actress who played her is bitter AF about that TO THIS DAY.
It's a great movie & I agree it's criminally underrated!
She has every right to be. Lysette Anthony's voice was perfectly understandable to Americans, even in the 80s.
Robbie Coltrane was overdubbed by Michael Elphick - no one really knows why.
The fact that its low quality in terms of how its made but still doing massive damage actually gives you a reason not to worry about throwing it away.
Who knows maybe the enemy will throw it back hahaha
'cheaply made' ≠ 'low quality'
Krull was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
same.
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Same!
for those that don't know, the glaive in the movie Krull can be thrown, but w/ time, it is controlled by one's thoughts and eventually uses it's own will to guide it w/ no concentration or effort by the wielder needed and doesn't miss. The perfect weapon. Who needs the force here? It already does that, only better. Oh, and it is also resistant to magic.
It can get stuck in its target though, just as it did in the tree.
@@benwagner5089 Yep. Considering how deep it penetrated into it's target.
I'll always remember the Glaive's tragic, heroic sacrifice. 😢
It's always sad when the main character doesn't make it out.
yeah that what make this work in a way cause unline standard thrown weapon you can infact retrieve it with a thought or make it change direction to its target. its main weakness is the amount of concentration needed and that leave you open for some attack
@@DanielMWJ Always hate that, but it served it'd true purpose and is now lost until it is needed again, like many special artifacts.
In terms of lore, in the world of Krull the Glaive is what the Excalibur is for us: the very definition of mythical, invincible magic weapon
When I was a kid, Krull was one of my favourite movies, and I found the Glaive super cool even if it got stuck during the main battle. I feel vindicated to see that even without magic is actually a deadly weapon!
First rule about the glaive:
"Do not use it until you need it"
"well how will I know?"
"you'll know"
Getting a little laugh out of your "Damn it! This isn't supposed to be that good!" reactions. But you're honest about the thing. I love your channel because of the stuff you work on.
Actually the term Glaive used to describe a throwing weapon originated with the Krull movie, it then became such a popular term it spread into gaming and movies over time.
the 2nd meaning of the word glaive generally refers to mass destruction which is almost guaranteed how Krull's use of it was intended.
typcial Hollywood bs of misappropriating terms that sound cool
@@florianreimann3166 I mean Glaive originally was used to describe a sword, then a spear....so using it to describe long-bladed throwing weapon things isn't that big of a leap given the parkour from sword to spear historically.
It was just a throwing weapon NAMED the Glaive. It's not a KIND of weapon, but a named artifact.
Calling them glaives is just as silly as calling arming swords "excaliburs".
@@Dies1r4eThe word has 4 forms in etymology:
Late Latin glavus (some kind of weapon)
Old French glaive (lance, sword)
Middle English gleyve (lance, sword-bladed polearm)
Modern English glaive (sword-bladed polearm)
So, yeah, sword-bladed polearm has been locked in for a LONG time.
Krull is like a D&D adventure turned into a movie. It is a fun movie to watch.
"i have never understood the fascination with throwing weapons" impressive given how many I have seen you throw on this channel.
As he then goes on to explain, while yes, a throwing weapon can be dangerous and even deadly, carrying a weapon around, just to throw is away and maybe make it useful is rather silly. Unless you know you will be in a 1 on 1 situation, you are putting yourself in a disadvantage with something that might not even work if the circumstances don't align
@@Tikuros A throwing weapon can be useful depending on how many you can very and the exact nature of the weapon. But I do feel that most like shuriken, kunai, and throwing knives are more useful as a distraction than a proper weapon. Something to be used while getting away or to buy time to get to a better weapon.
@@Riceball01 The major issue is always that if all you need is a distraction then dirt and gravel are free, take no materials or time that could be better used for a proper weapon and probably work better than a single object, obviously you lose the penetrating, instant kill power of a super deadly ninja star, but a cloud of sand right in your face can be very distracting.
If resources are tight enough you're thinking of scavenging from enemies then invest what you have in a survival tool like a knife or hatchet, which can be used for more than throwing away and could even be used to craft a better weapon, like the legendary "pointy stick I found in the woods."
Why yes that is in fact why he says he doesn't understand the fascination because he has tried out a lot of throwing weapon and doesn't really like any of them even if they are "effective."
@@Riceball01 I feel like it might be possible to carry a throwing assistance device and basically just load a magazine of them. Small shuriken on some kind of bracer mounted launcher. Even elastic could do the job but you'd probably only be able to have a "clip size" of like four.
Love that movie! The James Horner score is incredible!!!
It's the same score he used for Wrath of Khan and Aliens
Krull is like a D&D adventure. It is a fun movie.
@@tucoramirez2513 hahaha that's patently false. he was definitely guilty of a fair bit of self-plagiarising in his early career but not with krull. i mean there are a couple of similar themes in wrath of khan/search for spock but aliens? you're tripping
a lot of people also forget that it was and early role for liam neeson not sure if his first but early in his career
@@beardynn it was indeed, and early roles for robbie coltrane (james bond, harry potter) & alun armstrong (braveheart, patriot games) as well. weird how none of the main cast went anywhere but several of the supporting cast did
If the Krull blade resurges in popularity, it will be because of this.
It was also in "ready player one"
It may look like sharp giant cat claws stuck to shiny melted cheese (actually looked like the ones used in Jeepers Creepers 2 movie), but it got the job done in a deadly fashion! Thanks for bring back memories of the movie with some very interesting set/ architectural designs.
Yes however I would say that the jeepers one wouldn’t be that effective because the it has horn shapes rather than blade shapes meaning it so it only has points not edges 👍🏼 thanks for watching man I appreciate it
@@ScreenTested yeah, also could we avoid Jeepers Creepers altogether since those films should never have even existed due to the creator/write/director being a real creeper himself?
Loved this video though. The 'Glaive' is cool. :)
oh man, Krull was one of the movies that made me fall in love with fantasy
Appreciate this. Try not to laugh but, Krull is my favorite movie of all time! Saw it in the theatres and have been spellbound by this movie (and soundtrack) since. Glad the practicality of this silly weapon proved true.
You know, something I like about the internet is that it is showing me that me and my childhood best friend were not the only ones ever to see and love Krull.
Fun fact: the infamous Castlevania throwing Cross is based on a German weapon known as the Wurfkreuz...not an iron one (which there are depictions and historical ones that exist) but a SURVIVAL version which was two stakes tied together in the middle and sharpened on all four sides. The original Japanese handbook for the game shows this wooden version. The wooden version is meant for hunting small game in the woods apparently...like rabbits or other small animals and is heavy enough you can use it to bludgeon with while the ends can pierce things as well. For Castlevania this combined the classic stake through the heart and a Christian cross into one weapon which fit nicely into the whole killing Dracula goal.
Related, there was also the Hurlbat which looked like a short hafted throwing axe made entirely from metal with a spike at the end of the grip. And those documented as far back as the 1300s.
Krull was supposed to be a generic Dungeons & Dragons movie. When the writers needed a MacGuffin, they looked in the Players Handbook weapons table and picked the name "glaive" at random because it sounded cool. The D&D glaive is a French pole arm. That's where it came from.
Next episode Tyranth makes and tests a Green Lantern ring.
LMFAO
a gurren lagaan mech
The power of Chuuni. Anything you can imagine.
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Wouldn't put it past him, to try😅
The reason that weapon works so well is it uses the physics of a Shuriken. They come in different types, like three prong or four pronged sharp edges, I had one with 8 sharp points so like the Krull blade it would almost 100 percent stick into whatever I threw it at IF it hit with the sharp points and on a surface they could penetrate enough to stick. If it was, say sold steel, nope it bounces right off, but if it were wood, it sticks nicely. I got good at throwing three and four point stars. I wasn't a big fan of throwing spikes or knifes. I liked the idea that if I missed one, the other would hit.
The prince of the movie is using a sword as main weapon. So he will not be disarmed after throwing. But when the evil Slayers attack, he goes on a quest to regain the "5 bladed sword" (called in the german version). That thing is magic. Workin on a mind of its own. The version you build, is way more tame. But your test shows the lethality. Basicaly its a star shuriken of the larger kind. For handling, shorten the sharp edges and leave the center just play metal.
Great episode. Keep up the fun stuff and keep yourself save.
It's what I always imagined the "blade of biting" was in Wizardry. :p
For sure. On a true custom built version, you'd only sharpen the last couple inches of the blade tips. As that's all you'd really need for penetration. Damned thing worked a treat for being made out of dollar store steak knives and electrical tape though. ;)
Who else here thinks that Tyranth needs to test more throwing weapons? Maybe the Xena chakram, and by that I mean the chakram as used by Xena and not a real chakram.
The second one that split in two, please. It's double magical.
Oh im sure there will be more eventually
Now let's try out the predators throwing weapons.
Jeepers creepers throwing thing he used on the school bus in the 2nd one. Thats what I thought this was at 1st
Has he tried to make a Bata-rang yet? 🤔 🦇
The lore, if you're interested. From the knowings of Ynyr:
'The Glaive is a holy artifact from a time long past, when Men first walked the surface of Krull aeons and aeons ago. It is what is called a 'gaeaform', an object that embodies the very spirit and will of its planet - as the sword Excalibur is to the world called Earth, so the Glaive is to Krull. And as such, no evil can stand against it, be it the darkness in the hearts of Men or that of creatures beyond mortal ken. It can only be wielded by a champion of its choosing, a man of honest character and noble intention - and once chosen, the two are bonded for life. There is no fear of its destruction, for it is a thing of Krull, and shall return to Krull if 'tis ever lost. Its champion need only seek it again, and it will know, and come once more to his hand.'
Kull was one of the first fantasy movies I’ve seen and it became a favorite of mine, I was also born in ‘83 so that makes it a cool bit of trivia to me. I had no idea the real thing would be that effective pretty cool stuff!
Krull is a really good film and definitely worth a watch.
Okay, here me out, thinking as a Sith, Glaive with lightsaber tips and controlled by the force...
P.S. Needed the Wilhelm scream after that last miss.
And see if you can fly with it by spinning it really fast.
While not lightsaber tipped there is a group in Star Wars called the Zeison Sha who used a weapon called the discblade. They can use telekenesis to manipulate the throw to hit multiple targets, or make it return, and they could imbue it with the force to make it resistant to lightsabers so it couldn't be destroyed by a parry.
That ending! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perfection.
I loved this movie, I was 7 years old and not very bright but I loved it
I made something like this as a kid and brought it to school..
Got sent to the principal's office for repeatedly throwing it onto a clip board and also letting my classmate in on the fun...
Cried a lot when dad broke it in front of me in the principal's office
What he broke it!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!! I feel your pain!! I loved making stuff from movies as kid. Fun times!! 😂😂😂
My parents quit breaking things pretty quickly when they realized that was just the impetus I needed to make a better version. 😂
im super impressed with how those cheap blades held up.. holy hell.
imagine a tempered version made to kill
Nothing like seeing someone skeptical about a weapon's effectiveness only to be proven wrong. The look on his face was priceless. To be fair there is one point I think he failed to mention about throwing weapons. If you don't sufficiently injure your target you've just given them a weapon to use against you. Great video.
You about to get famous off of this Krull glaive thing that no one has ever heard of. The algorithm blesses you.
plenty of people have heard of it, you just haven't
Krull could definitely use a remake !
HERETIC!!!! BLASPHEMER!!!!!!
Neat, love your last Katana review with Shad. Hear to help with the algorithm!
Tyranth, its a fun movie. just do not over analyse it and enjoy it.
I remember going to see this back in Highschool. Always wanted a knife like it.
The fidget spinner of throwing weapons^^
Exactly! 🤣🤣🤣
I love watching Tyranth discover why a dozen different groups of people, across the whole world, with wildly varied technologies....all invent "throw sharp object at enemy at relatively close range" because it works pretty well is why, when you have the right throw-y thing and a tiny bit (like 10 minutes throwing at a tree) training.
I loved this movie growing up! Thank you for the vid
My god. The blade literally did the anime thing of cutting something without cutting it down. XD Certainly seems interesting anyway.
Usually when I think throwing weapons, I think slings, which are usually used to harass formations. This actually seems a reasonably irritating weapon to use though, didn't expect that. Particularly from a skirmishing perspective where you might not want to close ranks, but still want to weaken another formation. Though having to wear hand protection does make sense, given the hands are pretty vulnerable in most combat contexts.
Krull was such a great movie! haven't seen it since i was like 8 or 9 though back in the early 90s lol
Never heard of this film but that thing looks absolutely wicked...
There were a number of early 80s fantasy movies. Krull is a trip, Beast Master and Ladyhawke are awesome.
The 80s were a great time. Awesomeness to the MAX!
Tyranth is a real "Man -at-arms"! Another great video!
Amazing film the slayers and the beast are great bad guys one of my favorite films as a kid
KRULL was absolutely one of my favorite movies as an 11 year old boy! Krull was the Wish knockoff version of Conan. Loved it!!
Thank for the Krull memories I had totally forgotten about it ❤ it worth a sub👍
this makes me want to watch the movie all over again
I am honestly impressed by it.
krull was a great fantasy movie!
I just stumbled upon your channel with this video, thanks to YT random suggestions, and I have to say that I like your style. I loved the movie back in the day and seeing the iconic weapon brought to life has been a great trip back to that time of watching the movie. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
From my observations, it seems like the main down side to thrown weapons is the low mass to blade thickness ratio. To get the mass high enough to do serious damage, the bladed portion tends to be too thick. Where this glaive seems to work because there's a ton of mass and the blades are very fine
Krull is a damn fine example of 80's sci-fi/fantasy goodness.
I use to own the movie as a kid. I can tell you in detail the entire movie from seeing it so much.
It's great to see you with your own show. I hope it does well. Even before the 'glaive' in 'Krull' (1983), 'The Beastmaster' (1982) had another, similar throwing weapon, called a 'caber', which is often also referred to as a 'glaive', because humans are dumb. If you want a construction challenge, try making one of those 'Beastmaster' 'cabers'. The 'caber' from 'Beastmaster' is about as much like an actual caber - a large log, as tossed in the Highland games - as the 'glaive' from 'Krull' looks like an actual glaive, but the 'caber' looks much cooler as a weapon, and it might even be more practical and effective, despite its radical design. The 'Krull' 'glaive' is just a vaguely-sentient, magical hira-shuriken.
The advantage and disadvantage of the caber-glaive is that it is two similar metal pieces, each like two small, steel francisca / throwing axes back-to-back with a common handle. The two pieces are pinned together at one end of the handles, with the double-headed, radial blades at the other end, so it can fold in half by the two pieces rotating around the joining pin. This could mean it will either fold in half during flight (or not), meaning you halve the chances of the blades hitting the target and maybe just hit the target with the blunt end where the pin is (disadvantage); or it stays open in flight and folds up on impact, so one bladed end will embed in the target, then the other end will swing down and slash into the target aswell, with all the rotational momentum it had during flight. This will mean you get one hacking wound from embedding the blade when the first end hits, and a slashing wound right next to it as the other blade rotates shut (advantage). Much bleeding ensues.
In the first scenario, you'll either get two shallower wounds from both blades hitting together, side-by-side, and sharing the kinetic energy of the blow, or a blunt force trauma from the blunt ends hitting together. In the second scenario, you would get a deeper hacking wound from one blade embedding with much of the kinetic energy of the throw, then a second, deeper, slashing wound from the second blade closing shut with all the torque from the rotation. It would be interesting to see which scenario actually happened or what the relative probability was of each happening.
'The Beastmaster' 'caber' was a heavier, more solid construction than the 'Krull' 'glaive', so it would probably have a much greater momentum on impact. Of course, it was also magical and could return to the thrower if it wasn't insta-killing everyone it flew past, just like the 'glaive' from 'Krull', but the blades on the 'caber' were much more choppy-hacky, and less stabby-slicey, like the 'glaive', so they would probably cause a bigger wound with more trauma and blood loss. The 'caber' would also be much easier and safer to throw hard (and carry), because all four blades and most of the weight would be at one end when you throw it, like a francisca or tomahawk.
Thank you for the presentation, you kinda answered your own question on how “glaive” originated as a knife on a pole. What you have is a device the extends the users reach beyond their normal reach.
It's funny as I've seen the movie several times over my life , but when I stop to think about it. I don't remember much about the movie or the story despite the fact that I like the story. It might be mostly because I watched it in my early years like 30 to 35 years ago the start. Gonna have to find it to watch again. Thanks for letting me realize how out of touch I am with my childhood movies.
Awesome build, excellent video. Those were some nasty throws
This thing is so cool! Now I want one!
I had a DnD character who was a Tibbet, a Catwere, which is a halfling or hobbit that turns into a House Cat and can become a Giant version of the House Cat. Think Tiger Sized House Cat. I was a Himalayan Cat, looks like a fluffy Persian like cat crossed with a Simiamese cat. I also had a Halfing form with cat-like features like Cat Eyes, Cat Ears, and what today you'd probablly call a Furry. I was NOT a Furry in real life. I didnt' make this character for anything remotely like that, but I thought it would be cool to play a Tibbet as a "Were Cat" rather than Were Tiger or Were Wolf" or something more familiar. My character at some point got some fur prints, or 'fur tattoos' as it was discolored fur basically that looked like the Krull weapon. I had 4 of these. I could animate them so they left the body, metamorphosing real ewapons, which flew and my character controlled telekinetically so I didn't need to catch them or use my paws. That means I could use these in my two Cat forms, small and large.
But the smaller form's weapons were smaller and did less damage. I thought of my larger cat form as a Battle Cat. too much He-Man I know, and yes I had seen Krull and I was going for this same type of weapon. It took a while to find a means to get these weapons. They were like Dancing Swords and could fight on their own, or I could direct one or more of them with a Concentration check, and the modifier for it was more difficult the more I tried to control. I generally speaking controlled one, doing so means it used my Attack modifier, otherwise it had a default modifier, which was lower than mine. If I failed, the Action was wasted as I tried to gain control of it.
My character did about as much damage in the game as a large Tiger so I could fight, but I wasn't some super-powered character. It was more the cool factor I liked. I loved being a small cat going into places, hanging out and its just a cat everyone. No one notices the cat in most urban areas that is out of order.
I even recruited a gang or pack of other feline cats in my local city and had a little gang of them who could spy and other things for me. My class was Thief or Rogue/Psionicist. I had telekinetic powers and those weapons were created for a psionic to control. This could have easily been done with only magic, but at that time that is what I was playing. I basically used my psionics to enhance my thief much like a Mage/Thief might, so I wasn't mental blasting people. I could not read minds, but eventually did get a medallion that allowed me to ESP (read minds). I liked that item a lot. I had a Hat of Disguise too, Cloak of Displacement, and eventually two Axes of Hurling for my Hafling form.
So when I see the Krull weapon it brings back memories like that for me.
“Take the fire from my hand”. Amazing fantasy film from my childhood
Loved this movie. Rewatch every so often.
Was funny seeing Liam Neeson in it. Never knew who he was when I first watched it.
I love that it actually works really well! Krull is a classic def worth a watch if you havent seen it
Love this channel, dont ever change
I love KRULL! It's a fantasy with a cast of legends!
needed the old "ahhhh" scream voice that's been in media for decades when the blade flies off screen lol
Krull is super underrated and has one of the most unique weapons I've yet to see replicated in any other film.
Saw krull when it came out. Love that movie and that weapon
Did a bit of digging on the etymology, following a hunch that Glaive and Cleave are near homonyms.. Glaive seems to come from the Latin Gladius, and had been used to refer to swords, spears, lances and such. So yeah, polearm with a blade. It also was influenced by Latin words for club, cudgel and other sticks one would brandish. Meanwhile Cleave comes from the PIE root "gleubh", which on first glance is already looking more like Glaive. The "gleubh" root is also used for cutting, gouging, carving, peeling, splitting, and such. This all paints the picture that these two words were used in tandem to describe things that cut and the act of cutting. A glaive is something cleaves, and likewise it takes whatever form enables that, whether it's a one-handed butcher's tool, or a big two-handed polearm with a swept blade, or a 5 bladed throwing "star."
Thank you for bringing back my childhood memories
Love these episodes. Keep them coming!
0:08 May I suggest adding a safety feature where you can close the blades while removing the stuck blade? This current configuration has many safety concerns
Safety third!
That is what the Predator's smart disk can do and it looks just like the Glaive.
This channel just popped up on my newsfeed, it looks good, it's like shadiversity without all the weirdness, lol
I would use a thicker blade. Also, you joined it at the center, but I suspect the movie build would have the tangs individually mounted into each tine of of the center piece. I think the blades in the movie were more curved and meant to slice, not impale..which is why they went with Glaive as a description. And when he throws the glaive, its not strictly aim and luck..he is actually mentally/magically controlling where it hits..so in a sense, the magical force between him and the glaive is the "pole arm". If i made one modification to both the movie design and your design, I'd cover the back edge of the blace with a little area that you can use as a handling area. If you think of the center piece as a piece of jewelry made of gold..I'd extend some of the gold in each tine to coat the back of the blade to give you a handling area. The final thing would be, if possible, I would design the center piece that at least makes a balance between each blade, and also is designed to be aerodynamic in a way that keeps it going straight whenever you throw it. The fantasy land ideas I have, but don't know how to do, is to put a gyroscopic and servo motor system, and laser targeting system in the center piece that actually allows you to use a selector switch so that you can throw it perfectly straight and then have it fly vertically..or switch it and throw it straight, but have it go perfectly straight horizontal. Also, spinning the blades faster than you actually threw them (like a buzz saw).
Always thought that thing looked stupid but WOW that may be the scariest throwing weapon I've seen.
That thing looks dangerous from the start. 😉 Musical greetings from Belgium, Gunther (singer and lyrics writer of Gabriel Scar)
I might suggest alternating hands, just to reduce strain on one side. Byt otherwise, excellent video, thanks for exploring this wonderful, memory-filled item!
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I worked at a drive in movie when Krull was in general release, I saw about 30 times there and many more later.
I even had the paperback by Alan Dean Foster.
I do suggest watching the movie in question. Is it the greatest movie ever committed to celluloid? No. Is it a delightful bit of fantasy movie cheese? Yes, yes it is.
I didn't know this was a movie, but I remember playing this as a video game when I was a kid.
In the game "Arcanum Of Steamworks And Magic Obscura" they had a version called the Azram Star.
Love that game! And I had one of those.
@@gail_blue I miss being able to play it.
@@jasonowens8023 you can get it on good old games and it works pretty much as-is.
I generally agree with your evaluation of throwing weapons:
If one is throwing weapons in Mass at a enemy formation they make better sense.
Those are great for war but they're expensive and you need a lot of training. If individual soldiers hold a couple javelins behind their shield or better yet some throwing axes in their belt they can lob them in mass at an enemy. It's kind of irrelevant whether it hits with the edge when you're throwing an ax at a group formation because you're essentially throwing a metal brick with one sharp edge. So if it hits someone in the head with the top back or handle of the axe it will still hurt them; possiby breaking bones or causing a concussion.
If you're just trying to get a formation to break ranks and leave the battlefield that's effective enough. If you have two shield formations fighting in close proximity to each other you don't need as much range as to necessitate bows, crossbows or guns.
If an axe is thrown the axe can be collected later and even if the shaft breaks that's easy enough to repair in the field.
Unlike arrows that are often broken after the first shot in battle.
But to reiterate I agree that having a personal throwing weapon to try to hit a single opponent with is kind of folly I'd rather hang on to it and fight with the weapon then to throw it.
Thrown weapons have some advantages:
- make them of leftover pig iron
- make them with the most sharp blade that gets chipped, bent and broken after one hit
- zero embellishments
- bother not about picking them up, let them rust off where they fall
- it's a RANGED WEAPON minus the bulky force-multiplying instrument that eventually runs out of ammo
- can still be used as a last last resort melee weapon
Giant Shuriken > Tiny Shuriken! That's pretty damn cool!
You just want the Shadow Shuriken.
The thrown weapon is quite simply the EDC pocket pistol from the time before guns become powerful, reliable and small enough. Its got a fascination because its at least most of cheap, one handed, effective enough, with better range than anything else as easy to carry, and it is a good backup weapon even if you could have a gun/bow or sticking to more melee ranges a real glaive (or even just a big stick) so won't throw it often its handy to have in a pinch. Plus most throwing weapons are also useful enough as tools you'd probably use around camp...
Never saw throwing weapons as anything but a secondary since as you say-you toss it and then it's gone unless you go dig it out of your enemy's carcass.
Doesn't mean they can't be effective in someways,good for distraction for example.
Damn, just saw first time how your name is spelled. I've pondered that a lot. Is it Tyren, Tyran and lots of other speculations on my part. Tyranth sounds cool, like some kind of Kaiju. It has bugged me all this time, a lot, every video I thought that. Greetings from the opposite (wrong) side of the world, Finland.
1. Watching the movie is a must!
2. The weapon is steeped in some serious magic.
3. You don't actually throw the weapon as much as it just leaves your hand and does its work.
4. The glaive can eviscerate an army of anything in seconds and is the ultimate fantasy weapon!
There use to be glave and glaive. In old French, glaive was a generic term for any short bladed weapon where as glave was the English term spelling for the polearm. In modern English, both spelling usually refer to the polearm.
I actually watched the movie.
It was... interesting.
Truly a product of its time.
I find it very interesting that whenever a blade hits badly, it alligns the next blade to stick better into the target like a wheel
The look on your face after going right through the armour lol. It's the "Fuck....I don't want to admit this" face. Also, I haven't watched krull in forever, but I'd say it's definitely worth a watch. It's early fantasy, but man, that shit gave me nightmares as a kid lol
Strictly speaking the practicality of a thrown weapon came down to three things. Surprise, Range, and Lethality. You would be looking to surprise, and or kill/hamper your opponent in some way to either end a fight quickly or give yourself time to run the hell away. Miyamoto Musashi for example, became known for his ability to throw his tanto or wakizashi with frightening accuracy. Even if he missed, the surprise factor was enough to allow him to end a duel.
The next step is to design a throwing aid, like an atlatl for the krull glaive. Maybe you can give it more power that way, especially if you are rebuilding it with more robust blades. Also, would it work just as well if it was just pointed, and not bladed? Maybe then can help with safety when throwing.
Throwing weapons are effective and are for Short Range effective use. Throwing Darts, Shurikens and the like, or throwing axes are among the best, but a Saw Blade if handled correctly and if you have a proper glove you can do some damage with that thing to unarmored people. Take one and throw it. See what happens to tender body areas, bad things. We practiced throwing Shurikens and other 'ninja weapon's', but I am really good at throwing Javelins in real life, and use something like an Atlatl which increases the range, makes if fly faster too. I can use the Nerf version, foam weapon, and peg someone up to like 50 to 75 feet away or so. But if you are 50 feet or less I can, say 20 feet. I most liklely will peg you. It is imaginary damage as it is a foam weapon. But I got you.
here is a fun fact, the hero's weapon in the movie krull was originally meant to be a sword, but after a late night and watching an old episode of star trek, season 2 Fridays child, the glaive was born, now the only other time i have seen this weapon used was in ready player one where it was used to cut off i-roc's arm.
loved that movie as a kid
. 1:50 "I don't understand the explicit purpose of having a weapon to throw away." Now I understand he is talking about smaller weapons like knives and such. But some people out there will say "But what about the Pilum?" And to counter that. It's a spear... It doesn't Need to be thrown to be effective. But it does help in FORMATION warfare.
But throwing weapons with magic... different story altogether.
The cruel GLAIVE was based on Sumerian weapon it was a secondary weapon and used for hunting thrown like a battle ring or a fribee, and retrieved after use. Original material was Damascus or Obsidian.