Seeing the real areas takes the glamour out of the mob films; I can feel the grit, the grime and the boredom of living in those neighborhoods and seeing those scenes everyday.
I grew up in Hamilton Beach. In the early 80's I remember some kids from the neighborhood found a head in a gym bag just off Conduit Ave. They found it in a small wooded area that was called the spooks. We would ride our bikes there often. Thank God we never saw anything like that.
I'm from Linden Plaza, that's my neighborhood. Looks a lot better back there now due to new construction, as kids we called it "dog city" cuz of strays
I'm so addicted to the mob/mafia videos...seem I can't get enough of the history of this thing...i am southern and you wouldn't believe how much people down here love the mafia
Na just stay in your suburban bubble, this isnt anything to glorify. People like you think its sweet and games until you get two in the back of the head from a 15 year old.
I am a American of Sicilian descendant , living in NY, trying to live an honest life. These people are not someone who should be admired or loved. They have strayed from a decent life and injure and murder innocent people. I doubt I will change your mind but at least hope you think of it.
When we were young and foolish , my buddy" s car was stolen .We were going to to go there and act tough and find his car. Luckily an old car thief told us "don't even think about it" . One of the best pieces of advice I ever got .
I’d be careful driving down there. The potholes are the size of craters and you can’t see them because it’s almost always flooded. I go down there all the time for my job. There’s been many a time I thought my truck would get stuck in a crater
When I moved to the U.S., my first home for 3 years was by Blake and Drew Streets in the Hole. At 16, I had no idea who John Gotti was, until I saw bulldozers digging up bodies from my bedroom window. As a teenager, I thought it was crazy to hear that dozens of bodies were buried 100 feet away from our house, especially moving from an openly crime-ridden country to an unexpected, clandestine crime-ridden area. You just never who's who or what's what, when you go anywhere. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@ConnorHolbrook419 I lived in Kingston, Jamaica prior to U.S. The former crime capital in the world. Ironically, I was never truly exposed to crime-ridden areas in Kingston, compared to craziness seen in the Hole- dead bodies, murders, my dad was robbed etc...
I grew up in Brooklyn. This was common knowledge to us back then. They used to also dump bodies at the docks by the gowanus. The area is a bit cleaned up with Costco and other merchants but an ex gf of mine, her told me stories about they find bodies back there all the time. Over there in East NY where you're filming I have family over there. My uncles told me people used to live back there and still do. They'd see the mafia pulling up late at night pulling bodies out the trunk. This is one of the big reasons why they took so long to build that shopping center. I heard everything they start digging they'd find another body. The same as you mentioned at the dump behind gateway. I'm not sure if you're aware but the Lindenwood diner is the diner from goodfellas. Everybody in those projects knew about this. You could see them from the terrace at night. The old Brooklyn
This is the second video I seen. Both were good and much appreciated. Over here near Mercer Wisconsin there were a lot of gangsters. John Dillinger in the shoot out at Little Bohemia. Al Capones brother Ralph lived up here. Donated a lot i here. Thanks for doing it !
I was born in Brownsville on September 16, 1952. I was taken to Howard Beach in 1956, and spent 17 years there. In 1960 I found "The Hole." It was around 30 blocks by 20 blocks!!! It was the ranch and a few blocks away. In other, ranch was not there. In a nursing home, Edison Estates, Edison, N.J. You look at the land/property when you know it!!!
Thank you Mooney for this video of the "The Hole". It truly is a hole, now I know how it got its name. A true hole in the ground where chop shops ruled the day from days gone past. A vacant place to turn into a cemetery at night. If a Cop was looking for action, I guess this would be the place to find a dead body, a stolen car and of course a mobster. Thanks for the tour Mooney and stay safe out in this great wide, wide world of ours. Wear a mask too, just like the bad guys do. LoL
Lindenwood is actually part of Howard Beach. I grew up there, but I no longer live there. I remember walking over from where I live to the TSS Department store on LInden Blvd just over the Brooklyn Border in what people would call East New York. TSS was like a cheap version of KMart, but defintely not as nice. A friend of mine drove me to that section of across the Border now just past LInderwood and it is built up a lot there. I do remember the Horses there, but I don't remember the Black Cowboys. I think I moved out there long before the Black Cowboys came.
Part of the hole has an East New York zip code but most of it has a Howard Beach zip code. Everyone that lives in or near the area considers it Brooklyn but technically the mail is addressed to Howard Beach Queens.
I remember going into this area when I was a kid in the late 60's. My father took me to a house there to visit a gunsmith named Mike for repairs on a rifle. I was about 12 y.o. and Mike had one of those 1920's "Tommy guns" you see in the gangster movies. Mike said "Let the kid hold it" and passed it to me. Mike was in a wheelchair from some kind of disability or injury but was an expert on guns. The Black Cowboys are a very stand-up group of guys ; used to see them riding horses on the very wide grass medians between the North & South Conduit Avenues.
I lived on 82 and 151 ave in the late 70’s as a kid. I was familiar with that area. It was less active back then, and was creepy and we avoided it. There used to be a lot of wooden structure homes that dated way back in time. the neighborhood is Lindenwood and was pretty much built in the early60’s. Further down there was a big field and across it was a garbage incinerator that stunk up the neighborhood. I think we went n there with bikes and got chased out by dogs....so never again. We used to cross into Brooklyn to go to McDonalds and TSS (Time Sq Stores) never ventured further than that . We used to call the Horse Ranch, The Dude Ranch. We used to sled down a hill on the outskirts of it. Interesting that bodies were dumped there since a lot of those guys made their home in HB. My family ended up moving to New England and it was years later that I understood why HB was a safe place to live .
Grew up there in the 70's as well. lived on 153rd Ave. The wooden structure homes at the edge of the neighborhood you mention , from what I recall they were on a dirt road and in a sunken area. It was an odd little area, entering it was like leaving NYC and winding up in a small southern town. Used to use that road as a shortcut to TSS. Pretty sure it has all been torn down, I'm just curious as to where it was and can't find it on a map. Living in LA now and feeling nostalgic.
ndogg20 I checked on the maps too. I also noticed the smokestack is gone . Not sure of the street names but unlike the neighborhood which had # streets, they were named. Haha. We didn’t cut through to TSS we took that last numbered street.
A family friend used to live in the pink house on the right @ 4:41. I spent a good amount of time there as a kid. It was a very spooky vibe at night even though I had no idea about the buried bodies at the time.
Yes Tommy DeSimone is buried there on Ruby st .. the reason why other bodies weren’t recovered is because when they buried a body they would put 100 lbs of lime. In a few months the bones would disappear.. if lime is not used the body can be recovered years later
Lol I live in Howard Beach and used to walk through this (the one at 7:40, literally every week) area to get to Grant Ave all the time to get to my guitar lessons and I never knew that. That is super cool. They always had some kind of side sidewalk that I walked on to avoid the 4 foot puddle on the street. But this is so cool. But Where would they bury the bodies? Under the water or in the grassy areas next to the streets?
I was born and Flushing, but grew up mostly in Howard Beach and sometimes Ozone Park, then ended up moving to Long Island. My dad moved us out that way because he was so afraid I would end up in the life, like so many other of his friends and sons did. I almost did when I was 16/17 but gave it real thought and backed out.
In 1996 they found my pops car burning there. It was weird, NYPD sent us a letter a month later saying they have our half burned car and it was evidence for another crime. Never saw the car after it was stolen from Sunnyside. And they would never answer us or our insurance about the car.
Great tour of Howard Beach! I’ve never actually been there when I lived in Queens, as I never had a reason to hang there. Interesting, but unless I had a truck like yours I’d probably avoid the flooded streets. Is there an actual beach there? Okay, so I had another idea for a “tour” if you think it’d make a good video. It’s Fort Totten in Bayside Queens. When I lived there it was strictly military and no civilians were allowed. Now I believe the state of NY owns it and it’s kind of a park with a visitor center. It dates way back to Civil War days, with tons of historical significance. Do some research and see you think.
This video is actually Brooklyn. He's right on the borderline of brooklyn and queens. He's not actually in Howard beach. When he's passing Lindenwoood diner he's in linden wood sorta part of howard beach. If yo make a right and go all the way down and hook a right and go under the belt bridge then you enter Howard Beach
Sweet video as usual Mr Mooney, That puddle was seriously deep! I would also check your track rod ends make sure there is no play in them. Great work!!
You were driving around in the back of ENY especially when you made a right turn on Linden Blvd... That last right turn off the conduit is Howard Beach.
Not too long ago, the city put signs up preventing people from turning off on the Block after Linwood diner to avoid the traffic on Linden Boulevard going into the conduit because the folks at Howard Beach didn’t want the traffic going through their neighborhood. There are definitely more bodies out there, but for the police to get court ordered warrants to dig up over there at somebody’s business takes a lot of red tape as well as plenty of logistics, it’s just too much tax dollars just to find a few bodies or two
john jones If there was evidence of someone who was not a mobster and was an innocent victim the police do the work. You are right it’s not worth it for people who take an oath to kill each other, even when they find a body, the mob offers no help. They know it’s a rathole not worth going down.
I grew up in Oz Pk and Howard Beach. People in the hole had cows and chickens and horses. I'm surprised you didnt mention. The Lindenwood Diner. Big late night mob hangout. It's not right what the city did to the black cowboys association. They started that ranch and kept it going and they should be running that.
Having grown up in Chicago's Englewood district, North Lawndale along with a few other rotten areas I appreciate New York City' 'finer' neighborhoods. I now live in a Mob area Little Italy. Outstanding!! Can't wait to see the Black Hole of Calcutta.
That area is sometimes called city line or Brooklyn side is part of east new York queens side would be linden wood/ Howard beach . Ps Howard beach has a few sections with in Howard beach like Hamilton beach and linden wood east new York the Brooklyn side has many subsections like cypress hill city line starret city spring creek the hole .east new York & flushing are huge sections land and people wise
Awesome content. I’m a proud New Yorker and didn’t know of the areas which you film. The history you share for these locations is breathtaking. Thank you so much for filming and sharing. Can’t wait to see all your videos!
This looks really off the beaten track but also shows me, an English man, how vast NYC and its 5 Boroughs really are! Love these and thanks again Moony 🤞👍
I remember...1981, I was 7....just playing with my siblings and neighborhood kids...if those streets could talk...you passed my grandfather's house...724 drew street....crazy memories here.
Cool video. I was just watching Goodfellows on tv, looked up the background on the film and found out about The Hole. I imagined it to be a lot larger and overgrown land. Was it like this when the bodies were buried?
@@MOONEYDashCam Awesome, cheers for the info. Really good vids, I watched about 5 more after this one. I stopped off in New York for a few days and wondered around The Bronx, Harlem and Brooklyn while travelling home to London. It's a great city.
Nice tour. Ten years ago this month, I met up with a bunch of folks for a photo walk through The Hole. We were on foot, and luckily the area was a little less flooded than what you found. Still plenty of large puddles, but we were able to walk most of the streets. That new shopping center at Linden Blvd and South Conduit Ave was essentially just a huge mound of dirt at the time. We also checked out Cedar Lane Stables, where the Federation of Black Cowboys still had a presence. And then we crossed the pedestrian bridge that you shot and headed over to Bayside/Acacia Cemetery for a look around. That was an interesting walk. The Hole apparently looks pretty much the same 10 years later.
I find this all so fascinating, I'm front Northern Ireland not Ireland as some Americans and English think that all of Northern Ireland is Ireland, if I drive About and hour to Cross over to Ireland Dublin is about 100miles From me and you pay to drive on them I'm curious the hole was it a stretch of road, but was it like a road whenever he used it what was it like. In One of the comments and young girl watched from her bedroom as Bodies were being removed. Do you think there's more bodies there in your own opinion Just wanted to say your videos are wonderful I'm going to subscribe Keep Up The fantastic work Your bringing to us ❤️ xxx
First time ever seeing one of your video's. Really cool. I know alot of history bout the "hole".. got one question. Sounds like you have a Ford f150. Lol
Remember on Jersey Shore (I know they are classless).. When one of the boys called Angelina the 'Staten Island Dump). I just thought about that the other day and I started laughing out loud thinking of the probable meaning lol.
It was not such a secret back in the day, this being "Gotti's Graveyard" (for those who knew of the place). I've spent a lot of time down there (30+ yrs). The city has def neglected the space and it was exciting when they finally paved the roads, thus covering up much of whatever might be down here. I do miss the cowboys! But the people who do live down here stick together and make it work. The hole is below sea level but really only floods when it rains (it was bone dry during the hurricane in 2013). I was also excited years ago when on Google Maps it actually labeled the area 'The Hole'.
The city might have neglected it but alot of people live/work there judging from all the parked cars, campers, etc. Reminds me of an area in Newark NJ (east Newark, east of Down Neck) where the auto junkyards are or used to be. There'd be an auto salvage business there and the owner would have a trailer for an office. I used to sell my old junk cars, just barely being able to drive them there; I'd give the guy the title and he'd give me $25. Now they've got a big Amazon warehouse close-by.
Wow you are right Lindenwood Howard Beach "The Hole" the MOB did burry bodies there I lived in the East years ago my parents use to shop at TSS it's now a movie theater. Also there was a meat market on Crescent and Sutter the MOB owned and next door to Kruticks Pharmacy was a small place they would have the meetings me and my friends called it the MOB Green door 😂 .we didn't know what family it was but we use to see them come out from there in they fancy Nylon track suites talking hugging one another and leaving in they fancy cars
@@JohnDoe-fs6lz there's a rumor that the guy who accidently ran over John Gotti's son was killed that way but I think tedkenne was referring to the normal business of "chop shops" in Ozone Park in the 80's-90's..
At 3:48 we see the splendour of a magnificent willow amongst the element of urban decay and negligence & indifference. Hail the magnificent noble willow!
@@MOONEYDashCam I hear that. I’m from Jersey brother it’s a crime why all are roads are the worst in the county and are taxes are the highest. Great videos thanks
Originally born and raised in Brooklyn New York. Move to Brighton Beach, move to Sheepshead Bay. First Property Staten Island. I got a job in Washington DC lived in Maryland in the county not in the city. I had a nice big home in the county plenty of land nice neighborhood. Baltimore city is a cesspool. Stay away from Baltimore City !As my mother got older I wanted to move not far from where she was living . I now live in Howard Beach. My honest opinion of Queens I think it's sucks! It's over crowded it's overpriced there were too many low-lying areas when it rains many homes they are basements get flooded .Everything in Howard Beach is expensive whether it be going out to dinner going to your local Italian restaurant everything is overpriced. The roads are absolutely horrible destroy your car. Many areas impossible to park. Been living here for about 18 months now looking to move out not sure exactly where I want to go. Definitely something with more property less people low crime rate smooth roads. Fair pricing this has been an honest review from somebody that's been around I have lived in other areas that I did not mention because we're talking about the hole in Howard Beach. I didn't think it was necessary to bring up every little spot that I lived.
That was a TERRIFIC ride, thanks so much for it!! The Hole is a truly fascinating place - heavenly in its horror, if you know what I mean. That flood water is truly creepy, though. Looks like a cesspool of bile teeming with enough germs and bacteria to make your hair stand on end, YUGGGGHHHHH!! How it must STINK!!! 😝😝😝 During another TH-cam trip to The Hole, the filmmaker walked through these nasty waters on foot, and I damn-near gagged!! Fortunately he didn't venture forth too far! Anyway, there's the flooding amid those lots of overgrown weeds surrounded by slum dwellings and housing projects with a secret mobster boneyard right in the center of it all!! Amusement parks ought to create replicas of The Hole to really creep people out!! The antithesis of the Fun House and the Tunnel of Love!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 But if anyone tries to gentrify The Hole like they have done to so much of NYC, I say we form a lynch mob and bury the bodies in that boneyard!! 😄😄😄😉
I’ve always believed that sonny reds body was meant to be found, if the mob don’t want you found you won’t be found , he was left with his hand sticking out of the ground to be found so Bruno would come back to New York to get revenge for his father and then they would of whacked him. Another great video well done brother.
i did a project on the five families for my national security management course and the history channel bought it from me to make some documentaries back in 05-06, it’s some very interesting stuff, i still watch vids or read up on it cause there’s always new stories coming out, especially from retired mobsters, i’m mostly interested in finding out if hoffa was really buried under giants stadium or gm hq, don’t think we’ll never know...
i use to ride my bike back in the 80s 90s there i knew when they found the bodies i seen the horses there as a teen i rode them before it was cool to see black people that was cowboys i wish it was still like that
Extremely interesting! Thanks for the videos I’ve been into the mob and true crimes for years and years. I’d love to check these places out in person I’m not that far NH. Keep doing what you do
Great video! Next time you're in the neighborhood talk about the Lindenwood Diner. You passed it on Linden Blvd. This is where John Gotti Jr. & crew hung out. Also where a guy was arrested for plotting to bomb JFK airport. Plus the notorious Pink housing project less than a mile away.....
Does anyone know anything about the old house in the weeds on the Lindenwood side beside the junkyard? There's a few gravestones buried up to their tops back there near some older foundation I could never find info on. I think the names were Robert and Martha Boyland,and a little girl named Gwendolyn.
At 11:40, I see you driving on Conduit. I'm not sure what the posted speed limit is on that road and Linden Blvd, but it's 25MPH on Queens Blvd, seriously that is painful. I've watched enough #Notjustbikes to confirm, that when a street is wide, it compells you to speed.
Al Indelicato, that was actually Sonny "Red" from the Donnie Brasco situation, And the other guys that were found there were the ones that Pacino's character and his guys killed in the basement scene from the movie...Honestly that area looks like it's chuck full of stolen cars, and chop shops..
That is a great video, I googled Ruby Rd and satellite shows the road with water on it so it may not dry out often. There are so many parked vehicles on the lots not telling what is under them.
My Father would drive up 2 the Lindenwood Diner with my "Uncles" and in stories I was told Most Construction done had Bodies in it...If U owned a house that had a body in it, they pd it off n U had 2 call them or someone in a neighboring Business 2 come n knock it down...People always MADE the Mafia Out 2 B this Powerful, Horrible Organization BUT u Never Ever had Rapes, Murders, from unknown people...They need 2 come back...La Familia
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Seeing the real areas takes the glamour out of the mob films; I can feel the grit, the grime and the boredom of living in those neighborhoods and seeing those scenes everyday.
Grimy and gritty??? Absolutely. Boring???? Never.
@@southie3177 hey what at chin Vinny is your act anyways?
“ The French Connection “ Movie had the legit NYC Atmosphere.
Gottis July 4th parties were lit
I grew up in Hamilton Beach. In the early 80's I remember some kids from the neighborhood found a head in a gym bag just off Conduit Ave. They found it in a small wooded area that was called the spooks. We would ride our bikes there often. Thank God we never saw anything like that.
Oh lord
Everytime I go to far rock on Conduit ave I say to myself, perfect place to dumb a body and get away with it.
Bro sound like Ralph Machio lol. Great production sir!!!
I'm from Linden Plaza, that's my neighborhood. Looks a lot better back there now due to new construction, as kids we called it "dog city" cuz of strays
I'm from cypress 😊
I'm so addicted to the mob/mafia videos...seem I can't get enough of the history of this thing...i am southern and you wouldn't believe how much people down here love the mafia
Na just stay in your suburban bubble, this isnt anything to glorify. People like you think its sweet and games until you get two in the back of the head from a 15 year old.
Wes Collins
Why? he makes sense.
Misfit. Marv
Thank you for saying that.
I am a American of Sicilian descendant , living in NY, trying to live an honest life. These people are not someone who should be admired or loved. They have strayed from a decent life and injure and murder innocent people. I doubt I will change your mind but at least hope you think of it.
@@skullyfresh8720 youre so gangsta big guy
When we were young and foolish , my buddy" s car was stolen .We were going to to go there and act tough and find his car. Luckily an old car thief told us "don't even think about it" . One of the best pieces of advice I ever got .
Yeah that could’ve ended badly
I’d be careful driving down there. The potholes are the size of craters and you can’t see them because it’s almost always flooded. I go down there all the time for my job. There’s been many a time I thought my truck would get stuck in a crater
When I moved to the U.S., my first home for 3 years was by Blake and Drew Streets in the Hole. At 16, I had no idea who John Gotti was, until I saw bulldozers digging up bodies from my bedroom window. As a teenager, I thought it was crazy to hear that dozens of bodies were buried 100 feet away from our house, especially moving from an openly crime-ridden country to an unexpected, clandestine crime-ridden area. You just never who's who or what's what, when you go anywhere. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
That is a crazy situation looking out your window and seeing that
@@MOONEYDashCam oh yes. I no longer live in that area, but never regret living there.
@@treeofwisdomoracle7863 I live near
@@treeofwisdomoracle7863where did you live prior to the US? Would love to compare/contrast with you
@@ConnorHolbrook419 I lived in Kingston, Jamaica prior to U.S. The former crime capital in the world. Ironically, I was never truly exposed to crime-ridden areas in Kingston, compared to craziness seen in the Hole- dead bodies, murders, my dad was robbed etc...
I grew up in Brooklyn. This was common knowledge to us back then. They used to also dump bodies at the docks by the gowanus. The area is a bit cleaned up with Costco and other merchants but an ex gf of mine, her told me stories about they find bodies back there all the time. Over there in East NY where you're filming I have family over there. My uncles told me people used to live back there and still do. They'd see the mafia pulling up late at night pulling bodies out the trunk. This is one of the big reasons why they took so long to build that shopping center. I heard everything they start digging they'd find another body. The same as you mentioned at the dump behind gateway. I'm not sure if you're aware but the Lindenwood diner is the diner from goodfellas. Everybody in those projects knew about this. You could see them from the terrace at night. The old Brooklyn
Ah, Home Sweet Home. Be it ever so humble, theres Nooooo place like Home.
Sucks you guys don't have isolation to dump like us
Dumping bodies, how revolting *
The diner is in maspeth and it’s called good fellas diner. The other diner was by Astoria.
Dude! This is such a great priemis! You have a unique cadence in the way you speak. The drive is super engaging. I'm looking forward to seeing more!
I really appreciate that 👊
This is the second video I seen. Both were good and much appreciated. Over here near Mercer Wisconsin there were a lot of gangsters. John Dillinger in the shoot out at Little Bohemia. Al Capones brother Ralph lived up here. Donated a lot i here. Thanks for doing it !
I was born in Brownsville on September 16, 1952. I was taken to Howard Beach in 1956, and spent 17 years there. In 1960 I found "The Hole." It was around 30 blocks by 20 blocks!!! It was the ranch and a few blocks away. In other, ranch was not there.
In a nursing home, Edison Estates, Edison, N.J.
You look at the land/property when you know it!!!
I’m from Edison, nj. I lived there for 22 years
Hey mines September 16th too
Lived there for 2 years. Right across from McDonalds on 27. Back in the 80’s.
You should remove the area name you live for your safety
Thank you Mooney for this video of the "The Hole". It truly is a hole, now I know how it got its name. A true hole in the ground where chop shops ruled the day from days gone past. A vacant place to turn into a cemetery at night. If a Cop was looking for action, I guess this would be the place to find a dead body, a stolen car and of course a mobster. Thanks for the tour Mooney and stay safe out in this great wide, wide world of ours. Wear a mask too, just like the bad guys do. LoL
I’m all masked up don’t worry haha
This guy sounds almost EXACTLY LIKE RALPH MACCHIO FROM THE KARATE KID AND MY COUSIN VINNY!!!
Lol I thought so too
Daniel-san!
Whats wrong with Queens, ya Schmuck!? Just Jiving cuzz. GG.
Howard beach is the other side of the belt parkway.where u are is part of lindenwood and East New York.
Lindenwood is a part of Howard Beach. Thanks for the comment!
Lindenwood is actually part of Howard Beach. I grew up there, but I no longer live there. I remember walking over from where I live to the TSS Department store on LInden Blvd just over the Brooklyn Border in what people would call East New York. TSS was like a cheap version of KMart, but defintely not as nice. A friend of mine drove me to that section of across the Border now just past LInderwood and it is built up a lot there. I do remember the Horses there, but I don't remember the Black Cowboys. I think I moved out there long before the Black Cowboys came.
Part of the hole has an East New York zip code but most of it has a Howard Beach zip code. Everyone that lives in or near the area considers it Brooklyn but technically the mail is addressed to Howard Beach Queens.
It has a slight leakin park vibe. 😳
@@HoldenNY22 I think TSS was where the movie theater is now.
I just tuned in into your channel because I came up as an option and I’m loving your dash cam recordings!!!
Thanks cherry!
I remember going into this area when I was a kid in the late 60's. My father took me to a house there to visit a gunsmith named Mike for repairs on a rifle. I was about 12 y.o. and Mike had one of those 1920's "Tommy guns" you see in the gangster movies. Mike said "Let the kid hold it" and passed it to me. Mike was in a wheelchair from some kind of disability or injury but was an expert on guns. The Black Cowboys are a very stand-up group of guys ; used to see them riding horses on the very wide grass medians between the North & South Conduit Avenues.
Mike the Jeweler also sold jewelry. Cops always there for one thing or another🥸🥸🥸
The quarantine videos are great! No traffic!
Yeah I’m flying around
Looool
I lived on 82 and 151 ave in the late 70’s as a kid. I was familiar with that area. It was less active back then, and was creepy and we avoided it. There used to be a lot of wooden structure homes that dated way back in time. the neighborhood is Lindenwood and was pretty much built in the early60’s.
Further down there was a big field and across it was a garbage incinerator that stunk up the neighborhood. I think we went n there with bikes and got chased out by dogs....so never again. We used to cross into Brooklyn to go to McDonalds and TSS (Time Sq Stores) never ventured further than that .
We used to call the Horse Ranch, The Dude Ranch. We used to sled down a hill on the outskirts of it.
Interesting that bodies were dumped there since a lot of those guys made their home in HB. My family ended up moving to New England and it was years later that I understood why HB was a safe place to live .
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Grew up there in the 70's as well. lived on 153rd Ave. The wooden structure homes at the edge of the neighborhood you mention , from what I recall they were on a dirt road and in a sunken area. It was an odd little area, entering it was like leaving NYC and winding up in a small southern town. Used to use that road as a shortcut to TSS. Pretty sure it has all been torn down, I'm just curious as to where it was and can't find it on a map. Living in LA now and feeling nostalgic.
ndogg20 I checked on the maps too. I also noticed the smokestack is gone . Not sure of the street names but unlike the neighborhood which had # streets, they were named. Haha. We didn’t cut through to TSS we took that last numbered street.
My mom's cousin lived in queens, thank you for the memories.
A family friend used to live in the pink house on the right @ 4:41. I spent a good amount of time there as a kid. It was a very spooky vibe at night even though I had no idea about the buried bodies at the time.
It has to feel weird looking back knowing what went on there
I bet. Would be scared walking around down there at night. No sewers, no street lamps either I bet?
Funny how we live right next to this shit and there's people all ova the world that are so interested 😂😂
The flooding is terrible in graveyards in Louisiana. After Katrina, a ton of above ground graves/,bodies floated away. It was abhorrent.
Yes Tommy DeSimone is buried there on Ruby st .. the reason why other bodies weren’t recovered is because when they buried a body they would put 100 lbs of lime. In a few months the bones would disappear.. if lime is not used the body can be recovered years later
Lol I live in Howard Beach and used to walk through this (the one at 7:40, literally every week) area to get to Grant Ave all the time to get to my guitar lessons and I never knew that. That is super cool. They always had some kind of side sidewalk that I walked on to avoid the 4 foot puddle on the street. But this is so cool. But Where would they bury the bodies? Under the water or in the grassy areas next to the streets?
Let's go get some 40s at the Getty bro!
The 3 Bonano bodies were the. capos that got killed in Donnie Brasco movie - Sonny Red and friends.
Trinchera and giaconne were the other 2
Not sure if the other 2 were Capo's though. I thought only indelicato was the only capo
@@josephmarron9413 Pistone and various other high ranking mobsters say that all three were capos.
I enjoy your rides. I like the information you give. Subbed and rang the bell. This beats me driving to see all this. :o)
Thanks for the sub 👍
@@MOONEYDashCam Welcomed honey. We have coffee together every morning so keep making those great videos.:o)
Hey it’s Ralph Macchio!! I had to bro!! 🤣 Great Video man! Morris Park, Bronx Here! ✌️
I’m right over by you on radcliff brother
Can see why they would dump bodies over there who the hell is going to look anybody there.
Good morning Mooney, I was just wondering, are you planning on doing a video of st. John's cemetery in queens?
I was born and Flushing, but grew up mostly in Howard Beach and sometimes Ozone Park, then ended up moving to Long Island. My dad moved us out that way because he was so afraid I would end up in the life, like so many other of his friends and sons did.
I almost did when I was 16/17 but gave it real thought and backed out.
Smart move
So did you become a cop?
@@samanthab1923 No, a pizza maker.
Good videos young man very interesting these mob videos you do good job bro . God bless you and your family your pal big Mike
Thanks big mike
Any time I'm going to subscribe to your channel right now have a good day today.
Its on Brooklyn queens border ,in Lindenwood which they consider part of Hoard Beach because the zip code 11414 is same as Ohb and New Howard
In 1996 they found my pops car burning there. It was weird, NYPD sent us a letter a month later saying they have our half burned car and it was evidence for another crime. Never saw the car after it was stolen from Sunnyside. And they would never answer us or our insurance about the car.
Great tour of Howard Beach! I’ve never actually been there when I lived in Queens, as I never had a reason to hang there. Interesting, but unless I had a truck like yours I’d probably avoid the flooded streets. Is there an actual beach there?
Okay, so I had another idea for a “tour” if you think it’d make a good video. It’s Fort Totten in Bayside Queens. When I lived there it was strictly military and no civilians were allowed. Now I believe the state of NY owns it and it’s kind of a park with a visitor center. It dates way back to Civil War days, with tons of historical significance. Do some research and see you think.
If you check out my Howard Beach video that’s really what it looks like these are just some
Bad blocks. Also I’ll for sure look into fort totten
No Beach but further up Cross Bay there are Channels , and Jamaica Bay...then Rockaway
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This video is actually Brooklyn. He's right on the borderline of brooklyn and queens. He's not actually in Howard beach. When he's passing Lindenwoood diner he's in linden wood sorta part of howard beach. If yo make a right and go all the way down and hook a right and go under the belt bridge then you enter Howard Beach
Drew street is the border line of brookly and queens. See the hole? Holes in brooklyn now look down see lindenwood then howard beach
Sweet video as usual Mr Mooney, That puddle was seriously deep! I would also check your track rod ends make sure there is no play in them. Great work!!
Checked and everything looks good thank god
You were driving around in the back of ENY especially when you made a right turn on Linden Blvd... That last right turn off the conduit is Howard Beach.
Hanging with my boy. We are going to watch later when we have time to chill. ✌️
That’s awesome, I’m happy to hear it.
Not too long ago, the city put signs up preventing people from turning off on the Block after Linwood diner to avoid the traffic on Linden Boulevard going into the conduit because the folks at Howard Beach didn’t want the traffic going through their neighborhood. There are definitely more bodies out there, but for the police to get court ordered warrants to dig up over there at somebody’s business takes a lot of red tape as well as plenty of logistics, it’s just too much tax dollars just to find a few bodies or two
john jones
If there was evidence of someone who was not a mobster and was an innocent victim the police do the work. You are right it’s not worth it for people who take an oath to kill each other, even when they find a body, the mob offers no help. They know it’s a rathole not worth going down.
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Man that panzer tank, or whatever your driving, handles really good on those flooded out back streets!👍
Hahaha thanks
The 3 capos were depicted in the movie donnie brasco.
I grew up in Oz Pk and Howard Beach. People in the hole had cows and chickens and horses. I'm surprised you didnt mention. The Lindenwood Diner. Big late night mob hangout. It's not right what the city did to the black cowboys association. They started that ranch and kept it going and they should be running that.
I didn’t know about the diner or the horses, cows, and chickens. I wish I knew that when I filmed.
Sorry I didnt read this before posting about the dinner. But yes Lindenewood dinner is a very popular place. Alot of celebs ate there.
I don’t know any farm left in Howard beach. I grew up in ozone park /Richmond hill.
What did the city do to them?
This is a really good channel was this a bad neighborhood back in the day? I know Brooklyn had a lot of bad parts
It was a place that attracted a lot of crime since it was run down
Having grown up in Chicago's Englewood district, North Lawndale along with a few other rotten areas I appreciate New York City' 'finer' neighborhoods. I now live in a Mob area Little Italy. Outstanding!! Can't wait to see the Black Hole of Calcutta.
That area is sometimes called city line or Brooklyn side is part of east new York queens side would be linden wood/ Howard beach . Ps Howard beach has a few sections with in Howard beach like Hamilton beach and linden wood east new York the Brooklyn side has many subsections like cypress hill city line starret city spring creek the hole .east new York & flushing are huge sections land and people wise
Awesome content. I’m a proud New Yorker and didn’t know of the areas which you film. The history you share for these locations is breathtaking. Thank you so much for filming and sharing. Can’t wait to see all your videos!
Thank you 👍
Because you didn't grow up in the shi* holes of the mob Burroughs lol
@@joea67 Mostly home to African Americans and Asian immigrants now. Demographics have completely changed.
@signogans...I know not in a racial way but even my area of little Italy is probably 20-25% Italian most of the rest Laid/Vietnam believe it or not.
@@joea67 Areas like Bath Beach, which is a classic mob area, is now like 40% Asian and 20% hispanic. Crazy how it all changed so much so quickly
His name was Sonny Red. One of the 3 captains hit
Thanks for checking it out! Always wanted to see but never made the drive
That’s what I’m here for
Love the content, subbed, regards from the South Bronx ....
They were caught because they were singing, "Yes, We Have no Bonanos."
This looks really off the beaten track but also shows me, an English man, how vast NYC and its 5 Boroughs really are! Love these and thanks again Moony 🤞👍
I remember...1981, I was 7....just playing with my siblings and neighborhood kids...if those streets could talk...you passed my grandfather's house...724 drew street....crazy memories here.
Cool video. I was just watching Goodfellows on tv, looked up the background on the film and found out about The Hole. I imagined it to be a lot larger and overgrown land. Was it like this when the bodies were buried?
It was much bigger they developed part of it into a strip mall
@@MOONEYDashCam Awesome, cheers for the info. Really good vids, I watched about 5 more after this one. I stopped off in New York for a few days and wondered around The Bronx, Harlem and Brooklyn while travelling home to London. It's a great city.
The area had a very rural "undeveloped", "Tobacco Road " kind of feel to it. Probably cause it was prone to flooding.
@@gerry6075 Yes, that one guy called it the “country” 😉
Nice tour. Ten years ago this month, I met up with a bunch of folks for a photo walk through The Hole. We were on foot, and luckily the area was a little less flooded than what you found. Still plenty of large puddles, but we were able to walk most of the streets. That new shopping center at Linden Blvd and South Conduit Ave was essentially just a huge mound of dirt at the time. We also checked out Cedar Lane Stables, where the Federation of Black Cowboys still had a presence. And then we crossed the pedestrian bridge that you shot and headed over to Bayside/Acacia Cemetery for a look around. That was an interesting walk. The Hole apparently looks pretty much the same 10 years later.
Interesting that parts like that don’t change with the times
@@MOONEYDashCam And then there was this... th-cam.com/video/cVezZhj7sC0/w-d-xo.html
Joe Brown I’ll be watching that tonight
@@joebrown2524 Just watched that b4 this one😀
I find this all so fascinating, I'm front Northern Ireland not Ireland as some Americans and English think that all of Northern Ireland is Ireland, if I drive About and hour to Cross over to Ireland
Dublin is about 100miles From me and you pay to drive on them
I'm curious the hole was it a stretch of road, but was it like a road whenever he used it what was it like. In One of the comments and young girl watched from her bedroom as Bodies were being removed. Do you think there's more bodies there in your own opinion
Just wanted to say your videos are wonderful I'm going to subscribe
Keep Up The fantastic work Your bringing to us ❤️ xxx
Awesome video thanks! Keep em coming
It would be funny as hell with all that water floating in front of your car LOL great video buddy
First time ever seeing one of your video's. Really cool. I know alot of history bout the "hole".. got one question. Sounds like you have a Ford f150. Lol
Close it’s an f-250 haha
@@MOONEYDashCam . It sounded like my old truck why I had to ask.. 😂
Remember on Jersey Shore (I know they are classless).. When one of the boys called Angelina the 'Staten Island Dump). I just thought about that the other day and I started laughing out loud thinking of the probable meaning lol.
It was not such a secret back in the day, this being "Gotti's Graveyard" (for those who knew of the place). I've spent a lot of time down there (30+ yrs). The city has def neglected the space and it was exciting when they finally paved the roads, thus covering up much of whatever might be down here. I do miss the cowboys! But the people who do live down here stick together and make it work. The hole is below sea level but really only floods when it rains (it was bone dry during the hurricane in 2013). I was also excited years ago when on Google Maps it actually labeled the area 'The Hole'.
The city might have neglected it but alot of people live/work there judging from all the parked cars, campers, etc. Reminds me of an area in Newark NJ (east Newark, east of Down Neck) where the auto junkyards are or used to be. There'd be an auto salvage business there and the owner would have a trailer for an office. I used to sell my old junk cars, just barely being able to drive them there; I'd give the guy the title and he'd give me $25. Now they've got a big Amazon warehouse close-by.
Wow you are right Lindenwood Howard Beach "The Hole" the MOB did burry bodies there I lived in the East years ago my parents use to shop at TSS it's now a movie theater. Also there was a meat market on Crescent and Sutter the MOB owned and next door to Kruticks Pharmacy was a small place they would have the meetings me and my friends called it the MOB Green door 😂 .we didn't know what family it was but we use to see them come out from there in they fancy Nylon track suites talking hugging one another and leaving in they fancy cars
When I was a kid my parents would go shopping for school clothes at TSS. Wow.... Totally forgot about that place..👍
@Lonnie McGuire They found one of Morrie's hurricane proof wigs......but no Morrie
@Lonnie McGuire 😂👍
You should get cameras for the side window view and split screen some stuff to see
Lots Of Mafia "Chop Shops" In That Area Back In The 1980s-1990s. Ozone Park Boys!!!
They slaughtered people?
@@JohnDoe-fs6lz chop shops are where stolen cars are brought and then "chopped" to sell the parts.
@@heygtc I know that lol but I’m also curious if people were lodged inside those cars and crushed
@@JohnDoe-fs6lz there's a rumor that the guy who accidently ran over John Gotti's son was killed that way but I think tedkenne was referring to the normal business of "chop shops" in Ozone Park in the 80's-90's..
@@heygtc yeah it’s believable. Those guys don’t play game
I like stories about the 5 crime families, when I went to Chicago I think I stumbled upon Alcapone house.
Good stuff
It’s on 72nd I believe in south shore
He also had a second house in Chicago heights
This is great my friend I never even knew that was there thanks for sharing buddy
At 3:48 we see the splendour of a magnificent willow amongst the element of urban decay and negligence & indifference. Hail the magnificent noble willow!
That pothole 2:44 was brutal, you didn’t even blink or miss a beat.
Didn’t even notice since I was trying to not screw that name up hahaha
@@MOONEYDashCam I hear that. I’m from Jersey brother it’s a crime why all are roads are the worst in the county and are taxes are the highest. Great videos thanks
Heeeeeeeey the sausage and pepper guy still there lol ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏
The best
Alphonse indelicado was sonny red in real life and the character was based on him in donnie brasco.
Wasn't, or isn't, his son married to Jimmy Burke's daughter or niece?
@@brianmccarthy5557 Yes, Bruno. They met in the visiting room at the prison he & her father were doing time. Such a sweet love story.
Originally born and raised in Brooklyn New York.
Move to Brighton Beach, move to Sheepshead Bay. First Property Staten Island. I got a job in Washington DC lived in Maryland in the county not in the city. I had a nice big home in the county plenty of land nice neighborhood. Baltimore city is a cesspool. Stay away from Baltimore City !As my mother got older I wanted to move not far from where she was living . I now live in Howard Beach. My honest opinion of Queens I think it's sucks! It's over crowded it's overpriced there were too many low-lying areas when it rains many homes they are basements get flooded .Everything in Howard Beach is expensive whether it be going out to dinner going to your local Italian restaurant everything is overpriced. The roads are absolutely horrible destroy your car. Many areas impossible to park. Been living here for about 18 months now looking to move out not sure exactly where I want to go. Definitely something with more property less people low crime rate smooth roads. Fair pricing this has been an honest review from somebody that's been around I have lived in other areas that I did not mention because we're talking about the hole in Howard Beach. I didn't think it was necessary to bring up every little spot that I lived.
That was a TERRIFIC ride, thanks so much for it!! The Hole is a truly fascinating place - heavenly in its horror, if you know what I mean. That flood water is truly creepy, though. Looks like a cesspool of bile teeming with enough germs and bacteria to make your hair stand on end, YUGGGGHHHHH!! How it must STINK!!! 😝😝😝 During another TH-cam trip to The Hole, the filmmaker walked through these nasty waters on foot, and I damn-near gagged!! Fortunately he didn't venture forth too far! Anyway, there's the flooding amid those lots of overgrown weeds surrounded by slum dwellings and housing projects with a secret mobster boneyard right in the center of it all!! Amusement parks ought to create replicas of The Hole to really creep people out!! The antithesis of the Fun House and the Tunnel of Love!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 But if anyone tries to gentrify The Hole like they have done to so much of NYC, I say we form a lynch mob and bury the bodies in that boneyard!! 😄😄😄😉
I’ve always believed that sonny reds body was meant to be found, if the mob don’t want you found you won’t be found , he was left with his hand sticking out of the ground to be found so Bruno would come back to New York to get revenge for his father and then they would of whacked him. Another great video well done brother.
Good point. I wonder if its that lot on the corner of Ruby and Blake were the two blue trucks were? But I have also heard more than one lot was used.
Just read the guy who played Bruno in Donny Brasco died of an OD. 2019
Oooooh .. Mooney .. I’m getting a bad whiff all the way down in Australia,
Lol
At 7:57, if you back your truck up or turn around it's the field right next to the apartment buildings
I live in Greene County upstate New York! We have Persicos
House in ulster county and Dutch Schulz and Jack Leggs Diamond! Love your channel!
i did a project on the five families for my national security management course and the history channel bought it from me to make some documentaries back in 05-06, it’s some very interesting stuff, i still watch vids or read up on it cause there’s always new stories coming out, especially from retired mobsters, i’m mostly interested in finding out if hoffa was really buried under giants stadium or gm hq, don’t think we’ll never know...
He was incinerated in Hamtramck MI
i use to ride my bike back in the 80s 90s there i knew when they found the bodies i seen the horses there as a teen i rode them before it was cool to see black people that was cowboys i wish it was still like that
I’m sure there were many dumped on Snake Rd by JFK airport & the marshy areas over there I’m from the 5 towns and live in Ridgewood now
@DonConner Thefutureisnotset where by the belt pkwy?
@DonConner Thefutureisnotset the hole by cross bay Blvd the new shopping center they built by linden Blvd that’s the main dumping ground
Was just saying a big dump spot was the long term parking lot at JFK. Leave them in abandoned car trunks
They keep putting new buildings up in Manhattan. Y don’t they rebuild this area?
Extremely interesting! Thanks for the videos I’ve been into the mob and true crimes for years and years. I’d love to check these places out in person I’m not that far NH. Keep doing what you do
Great video! Next time you're in the neighborhood talk about the Lindenwood Diner. You passed it on Linden Blvd. This is where John Gotti Jr. & crew hung out. Also where a guy was arrested for plotting to bomb JFK airport. Plus the notorious Pink housing project less than a mile away.....
I’ll have to check all of that out
wnewfmer might not want to visit the Pink Houses, lol
Facts lindenwood diner was famous because of john Gotti
@@joev9352 its not that bad i grew up there from 78 to 2017 I've sern it all we couldn't go to Howard beach back then it was crazy now its different
@@MOONEYDashCam don’t go to Pink Houses alone or Linden Plaza .. if you want to go I can take you on a tour.
Enjoyed the video!
Does anyone know anything about the old house in the weeds on the Lindenwood side beside the junkyard? There's a few gravestones buried up to their tops back there near some older foundation I could never find info on. I think the names were Robert and Martha Boyland,and a little girl named Gwendolyn.
I've worked this area for years. It's a little section called Lidenwood behind the hole
At 11:40, I see you driving on Conduit. I'm not sure what the posted speed limit is on that road and Linden Blvd, but it's 25MPH on Queens Blvd, seriously that is painful. I've watched enough #Notjustbikes to confirm, that when a street is wide, it compells you to speed.
The conduit I think is 30 if I’m not mistaken but no one follows that
Great Video Good story I watched your last video about the 2 guys who killed over a drink Great Story
Thanks bill
Kool vid thanx for sharing 👍🏻
Bro you inspired me to do this in Pittsburgh my hometown maybe one day we can do a collab video one day
Al Indelicato was Sonny Red, portrayed in Donny Brasco. Really enjoy your content man. A lot of Bonanno guys ended up here during the Banana War
You picked a perfect day to drive out there. It waa a cloudy and gloomy day
A friend of mine lives in lindenwood that area was and always been sketchy. I still believe that’s where Hoffa is.
Love your video of the hole. I grew up down there. It was a nice place back then. I know everything about the hole
Why did the city never upgrade it. Hook it up to city water, etc
Really interesting commentary. First time I've seen this area.
dan Freisting thanks for all the comments!
This area looks abandoned and spooky
Al Indelicato, that was actually Sonny "Red" from the Donnie Brasco situation, And the other guys that were found there were the ones that Pacino's character and his guys killed in the basement scene from the movie...Honestly that area looks like it's chuck full of stolen cars, and chop shops..
That is a great video, I googled Ruby Rd and satellite shows the road with water on it so it may not dry out often. There are so many parked vehicles on the lots not telling what is under them.
Cats, lots of cats
THAT PLACE LOOKS DEPRESSING.
My Father would drive up 2 the Lindenwood Diner with my "Uncles" and in stories I was told Most Construction done had Bodies in it...If U owned a house that had a body in it, they pd it off n U had 2 call them or someone in a neighboring Business 2 come n knock it down...People always MADE the Mafia Out 2 B this Powerful, Horrible Organization BUT u Never Ever had Rapes, Murders, from unknown people...They need 2 come back...La Familia
Going through the puddle.. you can sail the titanic in that puddle
Great video btw
Hahaha
A lot of run down campers in this area, Keep up the stellar tours. Mooney.
Holy shit dude! looks like your driving through a friggen canal.