There are four surviving FPA-4s in Ohio on the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad. 6771 and 6777 wear the cvsr livery, 6780 masquerades as B&O 800, and 6767 is awaiting restoration currently. All were built by MLW and served with VIA
actually it is and it is rusting in it's cn paint scheme.I and friends with the crews and i asked and they said the railroad it was being restored i think went bankrupt and they will restore it sometime late this year or early next year
@@ArturoRailProductions CVSR is a tax-exempt non-profit, and does OK financially. My understanding is that 6767 is/was mainly a parts donor for the other three operational ones.
The Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad will soon be the largest operator of the type. Their current fleet is comprised of 6771, 6777, and 6780. All three are in operational condition with 6780 experiencing some downtime recently. They had another FPA-4, 6767, but that unit has been gutted after serving as a parts source to keep her sister units running. Her cab was recently donated to restore an ALCO PA. The CVSR will be acquiring the Grand Canyon Railroad’s FPA-4s and FPB-4s sometime in near the future
That's really awesome to hear! The FPA4 wasn't preserved very well, only some surviving examples remain! So to hear a railway is actively trying to restore and get more is awesome to hear!
Actually, one is in the livery, she is located at the DL South side yard in Scranton, she serves as a both a parts for a certain block, and a possible OCS unit.
Nice memories brought back.. Thank you/Merci! I remember I was just a tot when my (deceased now) dad used to take me to the Sainte-Foy station in the late 60s, waiting for the Montréal-Québec City train to arrive and pull in about 8:00 ish p.m..That was before the advent of Via Rail neddless to say. It was the CN passenger service. Later on about 1976 through 1985, they rerouted the train to get to downtown main station,:la gare du Palais. I also fremeber a day and age when we would go to Chicoutimi and there was the Montréal-Chicoutimi and Montréal/Québec City trains running through the city and honking their horns non-stop.all tracks in Chicoutimi have been removed for a bike path. The same for the line in Q.C. en route for Chicoutimi. So many alines were canceled and terminated too from Q.C. to different and diverse destinations within the province or outside.Too bad..I also remeber when the first Bombardier LRC train and engine came out, they put it on display near Q.C. Palais station.That was the ultimate technology at the time.We were looking forward to take or see it on tracks and in operation. Tyhe tracks were removed since then where it was showcased and on display. I've actually always wondered why they didn't keep them any longer than that as a matter of fact.
The Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad in northeast Ohio (my backyard) owns four of them. 6771, 6777 are their most popularly ran and the other two, one is a parts engine and I believe the other has been converted into a head end power unit.
FPA-4s were not built from 1950, only in 1958-59 and never used for freight. CN and CP used FA-1s(built '49-'50, with 1500hp 244s) and FA-2s (built '51-'53 with 1600 hp 244) for that purpose. LRCs had 251 prime movers, the 251F.
Great video, glad to find this ! There's an incorrect reference to top speed in there somewhere. Actually, top speed was 92 MPH (stenciled on the roof above the engineer control stand) for the FP4's and 89 MPH for the FP9's. 6765 is currently restored and repainted at ExpoRail in Montreal. There are 4 others in operational service pulling the Napa Valley Wine trains. Pics available upon request!
MLW FPA-4’s were geared for 95Mph (153Kph) but since there was not a RSC (Reset Saftey Control) or an Event Recorder system in them they would not “overspeed”…. So that being said…. If the crews let them go 105Mph ( 169Kph) was not heard of …..
Benthetrainkid, not to mention the other two FPA-4 and FB-1’s are also Ex-VIA, the Napa Valley Wine owns four FPA-4’s and the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railway has four FPA-4’s of which three are operational.
I do remember, though it was a while ago! VIA was using the blue & yellow paint as early as 1976 on passenger equipment. On locomotives, the red CN nose logo was first applied to blue & yellow VIA 6516 in June, 1976. The red VIA nose logo was first applied in mid-1978.
As Eric said the VIA logo and colors first appeared in mid 1976 on some CN passenger equipment. CN had set up it's passenger rail service under a new division called VIA-CN. CN's turbo trains were the first to get the yellow & blue VIA-CN colors and logo. By the fall of 1976 VIA-CN and CP Rail issued a joint passenger timetable under the VIA name. By 1977 the government set up VIA Rail to be a jointly operated company run between CN & CP however their was conflict between the management of both railways and eventually by 1978 VIA was set up as a separate government owned crown corporation independent of CN & CP. CN had their trains taken over first in 1977 and CP's went under VIA in the fall of 1978.
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There are four surviving FPA-4s in Ohio on the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad. 6771 and 6777 wear the cvsr livery, 6780 masquerades as B&O 800, and 6767 is awaiting restoration currently. All were built by MLW and served with VIA
Bedcheck Sasha 6767 is not getting restored anymore at the moment.
actually it is and it is rusting in it's cn paint scheme.I and friends with the crews and i asked and they said the railroad it was being restored i think went bankrupt and they will restore it sometime late this year or early next year
i love cvsr I go their a lot
@@ArturoRailProductions CVSR is a tax-exempt non-profit, and does OK financially. My understanding is that 6767 is/was mainly a parts donor for the other three operational ones.
It would be cool if they had via or cn paint
The Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad will soon be the largest operator of the type. Their current fleet is comprised of 6771, 6777, and 6780. All three are in operational condition with 6780 experiencing some downtime recently. They had another FPA-4, 6767, but that unit has been gutted after serving as a parts source to keep her sister units running. Her cab was recently donated to restore an ALCO PA. The CVSR will be acquiring the Grand Canyon Railroad’s FPA-4s and FPB-4s sometime in near the future
That's really awesome to hear! The FPA4 wasn't preserved very well, only some surviving examples remain! So to hear a railway is actively trying to restore and get more is awesome to hear!
Actually, one is in the livery, she is located at the DL South side yard in Scranton, she serves as a both a parts for a certain block, and a possible OCS unit.
Nice memories brought back.. Thank you/Merci! I remember I was just a tot when my (deceased now) dad used to take me to the Sainte-Foy station in the late 60s, waiting for the Montréal-Québec City train to arrive and pull in about 8:00 ish p.m..That was before the advent of Via Rail neddless to say. It was the CN passenger service. Later on about 1976 through 1985, they rerouted the train to get to downtown main station,:la gare du Palais. I also fremeber a day and age when we would go to Chicoutimi and there was the Montréal-Chicoutimi and Montréal/Québec City trains running through the city and honking their horns non-stop.all tracks in Chicoutimi have been removed for a bike path. The same for the line in Q.C. en route for Chicoutimi. So many alines were canceled and terminated too from Q.C. to different and diverse destinations within the province or outside.Too bad..I also remeber when the first Bombardier LRC train and engine came out, they put it on display near Q.C. Palais station.That was the ultimate technology at the time.We were looking forward to take or see it on tracks and in operation. Tyhe tracks were removed since then where it was showcased and on display. I've actually always wondered why they didn't keep them any longer than that as a matter of fact.
The Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad in northeast Ohio (my backyard) owns four of them. 6771, 6777 are their most popularly ran and the other two, one is a parts engine and I believe the other has been converted into a head end power unit.
They are amazing ALCO built locomotives. And are also beautiful.
Not Built by Alco, built by MLW....
Multiple FPA4s are around; not just the 6789.
nice
@@LJRailfan-Gamer_07. 6789 is in the CN Olive and Green livery.
Finally!, someone is doing this series on VIA!
Some of the FPA4s exist on a short line in cuyahoga falls Ohio it’s called CVNP if you want to check it out
FPA-4s were not built from 1950, only in 1958-59 and never used for freight. CN and CP used FA-1s(built '49-'50, with 1500hp 244s) and FA-2s (built '51-'53 with 1600 hp 244) for that purpose. LRCs had 251 prime movers, the 251F.
Paul Gagné there are actually pictures of CN FPA4s pulling freight.
Great video, glad to find this ! There's an incorrect reference to top speed in there somewhere. Actually, top speed was 92 MPH (stenciled on the roof above the engineer control stand) for the FP4's and 89 MPH for the FP9's. 6765 is currently restored and repainted at ExpoRail in Montreal. There are 4 others in operational service pulling the Napa Valley Wine trains. Pics available upon request!
Just statrted to watch your work. Greta Stuff! Thanks
Wat horn(s) did the MLW/ALCO FPA4s get?
There is an via alco FPA4 in scranton Pennsylvania USA
4 of these engines can be found to today on the chahoga valley national park
There are some on the Grand Canyon railroad
Love the Blue yellow Lagoon scheme...wish they would bring back these colour schemes..
Really Cool video. I'd really like to learn more about via rail and their operations. One thing you forgot was saying what horn they were given.
105 KPH, hmmm seems a tad slow to me. I have paced them along the 401 back in the old days and they were going more than that. 105 MPH maybe?
Its awsome to see that the canadian uses the same consist but has f40ph-2
If I'm correct this is an old FPA4 stored at the DLW Shops th-cam.com/video/-CCpCGLBGcA/w-d-xo.html the FPA4 is at 0:54
Rex_ The_Railfanner that is an FPA4. Piece of history right there.
Have you ever noticed that early 70s to early 90s Canadian and American locos were really smoky? Oh, and super dirty also
Not only F7,But also E8 and E9
MLW FPA-4’s were geared for 95Mph (153Kph) but since there was not a RSC (Reset Saftey Control) or an Event Recorder system in them they would not “overspeed”…. So that being said…. If the crews let them go 105Mph ( 169Kph) was not heard of …..
+tieplatecaf good to know thanks!
Great educational video! :)
+TRSPomerania thanks!
Whats the theme used after astronaut march
DUDE YOUR ALMOST AT 900 SUBSCRIBERS
Can you do one of A Reading and northern locomotive of their history any one please
More intetesting than surviving ALCO FAs? Some are still running in the US
There’s actually 2 FPAs left in the VIA scheme that are stored at Grand Canyon Railroad.
www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=134059
Benthetrainkid, not to mention the other two FPA-4 and FB-1’s are also Ex-VIA, the Napa Valley Wine owns four FPA-4’s and the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railway has four FPA-4’s of which three are operational.
ViaRailFan:It was common to see CN power on VIA trains.
*shows a VIA FPA4, a VIA F7B unit and a CP F7A*
Nice video👌.. Keep up the nice work
The FPA-4's also ran on the Ocean not just the corridor.
They were also used on the Super on occasion
fact: on April 1 1989 All VIA FPA4's Were Banned From Leading Trains Due to Their their lack of Reset Safety Controls
9751asd April fools! Jk lol
What!
What's the music used in the video?
All VIA Canada Trains are the best
Fpa4’s topped out at 92 mph. 145-150 kph.
I live in canada
Nice!! Loved it!
Thank you!!!
Your welcome! i Think you should just do the E8 or there Funit first!
The next episode is the P42DC and the 3rd is the E8s and the FPA2s!
Also you forgot about RDC Budd Railcars!
I literally was thinking of them earlier today! I think that I'll do them in the next month or so!
5:48 what the hell this isn't a steam train
Photos and consists from my blog post, 1976-1981 tracksidetreasure.blogspot.ca/2010/01/via-corridor-consists-1976-1981.html
+Eric Gagnon I love your blog... I look at it time to time!
Good to have you aboard Trackside Treasure!
What music was used in the intro?
The smokiest loco of all time
I want to see more AlCo s locomotives in Canada. The " smokers". We love it too much in Argentina, where you have been sold to much Montreal"s units.
ONE LEFT IN SERVICE!!!! Well check CVSR 6767,6777,6771,b&o 800
I will be doing engines of Nagatuck Railroad (coming tomorrow)
"The [VIA] paint scheme was not officially applied until 1978"?
Eric Gagnon the engines in 77 still wore CN and Cp schemes
I do remember, though it was a while ago! VIA was using the blue & yellow paint as early as 1976 on passenger equipment. On locomotives, the red CN nose logo was first applied to blue & yellow VIA 6516 in June, 1976. The red VIA nose logo was first applied in mid-1978.
Eric Gagnon oh. I may have read some Information wrong... my bad lol. Thank u for the info.
As Eric said the VIA logo and colors first appeared in mid 1976 on some CN passenger equipment. CN had set up it's passenger rail service under a new division called VIA-CN. CN's turbo trains were the first to get the yellow & blue VIA-CN colors and logo. By the fall of 1976 VIA-CN and CP Rail issued a joint passenger timetable under the VIA name. By 1977 the government set up VIA Rail to be a jointly operated company run between CN & CP however their was conflict between the management of both railways and eventually by 1978 VIA was set up as a separate government owned crown corporation independent of CN & CP. CN had their trains taken over first in 1977 and CP's went under VIA in the fall of 1978.
@@dneilson2412 Yes it did.
I see a lot of FPA4's in Ohio on the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad
Whats the song at 1:58?
idk
i know now it's astronauts march
from spongebob
Cool
FPA's are not f units. There by alco, not emd.
Great vids . But bro Proof read your stuff a few times. Itl make your vids sound more professional
So Basicaly this is just more proof that Canada wants to be America’s little twin XD
Yea
the p42dc is a good train
fpa4 i think its based on alcos pa
1:43 what's the music
That’s exactly my question
@@CNMikado astronauts march @CN3254 Mikado
please fix the aspect ratio and then repost
Joke title: Visa fail of can-can's engines are smokers
DO THE P42DC!
Thats whats for Friday!!! I finished the video and its scheduled for Friday June the 16th at 12pm
VIARailFan6448 oh please! do it on Saturday! my birthday is on the 17th
I have it scheduled for Friday.... but ill put something special in the video for you!
VIARailFan6448 awesome! thanks!
Theontariotransit fan it's my pleasure!
1:24
The via lightweight coaches looks like the ukranian coaches
F7b
Hate them trains sorry if you like them but EW
Starting at 1:43 what is that song or tune?
spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Astronauts_March?file=SpongeBob_Music_-_Astronauts_March
astronauts march @CN3254 Mikado