USING LAKES TO MAP ANCIENT COPPER MINING, by Dr. David P. Pompeani, at the Copper and Culture Conference on Prehistoric Metal Working in the Lake Superior Region August 7, 2015, Houghton, Michigan.
Interesting research! If I may add, the Great Lakes once drained out Lake Nippising and through the Ottawa River, completely by-passing the Niagara Escarpment. This could have been the ancient sea route the copper miners would have used. We should be looking for prehistoric sites along the Ottawa. Also the Huron Mountain Club is hiding something on their mountaintops-which would have been islands 4000-7000 ya during higher lake levels.
So interesting but itd be much better if the screen was full screen and we just heard a voiceover. We dont need to see a guy standing in the dark talking....and we do need a better view of the screen.
Has anyone done a comparative map of Boulder nuggets and known pit mine locations to this data? The 9200-8900 lakes activity may be due to an exposed vein from glaciation. Then leaving the Boulder nuggets as it receded. This could mean a wide surface vein was being mined
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The Island call Isle Royale (Michigan) had pit mines that had been used to mine copper during the Bronze Age (Pit mines used at the time) and there was no use or mining of metals to make copper or Bronze tools by ANY North American Indians of that time.. Isle Royal was surveyed by more modern mining operations and they concluded that the equivalent of 1 billion dollars worth of copper (today's worth) had been mined from Isle Royal around the time of the Bronze Age in Europe. Since Europe lacked the kind of quantity of copper that occurs naturally the theory is that likely some Sea people had discovered Isle Royal and mined it for Copper for a long time, helping to create the Copper Needed for the Bronze Age in Europe.. This is only theory, but the pit mines on Isle Royal date from that time period. It makes sense that this would have been kept secret as it was a metaphorical "Gold Mine" at the time for the production of Bronze, which copper is a major ingredient. Also Copper from Isle Royal has a unique geological signature and i'm not positive if I remember correctly but I think that I heard they found this unique signature in Copper/Bronze age Europe artifacts, correct me if i'm wrong.
Just when I thought it was only the Québécois fighting for the French spelling on everything. A sneak attack from the south. @@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
I've visited many of these mines in the UP and isle Royal, traveling there with my sailboat. I've covered the the Pine mountain area a great deal and found some of the mining pits the Indians first dug and many were enlarged by miners in later years. The minong mine was several hundred feet deep and was simply older mine pits the modern miners in larger or deepened.
If you are watching my talk in 2024... there is an update. I published a novel exploring this subject called Great Water & The Lost Mines of Lake Superior. Check it out!
The question should be... Who mined millions of tons of copper? The local Indians could only pick at the edges for small amounts from mines that was already there... with stone tools! Pure metal = comet or meteor impact. Volcanic mineral deposits are full of impurities. Who began mining there 11,700 yrs. ago? If you attempt to answer that question, you’ll be fired!
Better question: Where did all that copper go?!? It sure isn't represented in the record with the trinkets and points found in the mounds and elsewhere. Where did it all go?
Not very scientific when you decline to provide any control data. Should have provided sediment data for lakes that have no copper mining, ones that had volcanic activity, ones that had meteorite impacts, etc. The fact this data is absent is a huge red flag.
Interesting research! If I may add, the Great Lakes once drained out Lake Nippising and through the Ottawa River, completely by-passing the Niagara Escarpment. This could have been the ancient sea route the copper miners would have used. We should be looking for prehistoric sites along the Ottawa.
Also the Huron Mountain Club is hiding something on their mountaintops-which would have been islands 4000-7000 ya during higher lake levels.
Sloppy Joe Xana...wow on ancient sea theory.
Could you tell me what made the "Isle Royale Anomaly"?
So interesting but itd be much better if the screen was full screen and we just heard a voiceover. We dont need to see a guy standing in the dark talking....and we do need a better view of the screen.
Very interesting talk.
Looks like this "high school level geologist" we are watching has a better education than the "college educated geologists" commenting here...lol.
boomers with invested interest in maintaining establishment bullshit perhaps?
Has anyone done a comparative map of Boulder nuggets and known pit mine locations to this data? The 9200-8900 lakes activity may be due to an exposed vein from glaciation. Then leaving the Boulder nuggets as it receded. This could mean a wide surface vein was being mined
The Island call Isle Royale (Michigan) had pit mines that had been used to mine copper during the Bronze Age (Pit mines used at the time) and there was no use or mining of metals to make copper or Bronze tools by ANY North American Indians of that time.. Isle Royal was surveyed by more modern mining operations and they concluded that the equivalent of 1 billion dollars worth of copper (today's worth) had been mined from Isle Royal around the time of the Bronze Age in Europe. Since Europe lacked the kind of quantity of copper that occurs naturally the theory is that likely some Sea people had discovered Isle Royal and mined it for Copper for a long time, helping to create the Copper Needed for the Bronze Age in Europe.. This is only theory, but the pit mines on Isle Royal date from that time period. It makes sense that this would have been kept secret as it was a metaphorical "Gold Mine" at the time for the production of Bronze, which copper is a major ingredient. Also Copper from Isle Royal has a unique geological signature and i'm not positive if I remember correctly but I think that I heard they found this unique signature in Copper/Bronze age Europe artifacts, correct me if i'm wrong.
your wrong
You are correct, except its Isle Royale, not Royal.
Just when I thought it was only the Québécois fighting for the French spelling on everything.
A sneak attack from the south.
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
K. Where they getting the tin? Tin being the other ingredient in bronze
I've visited many of these mines in the UP and isle Royal, traveling there with my sailboat. I've covered the the Pine mountain area a great deal and found some of the mining pits the Indians first dug and many were enlarged by miners in later years. The minong mine was several hundred feet deep and was simply older mine pits the modern miners in larger or deepened.
All the the best and highest producing mines in the Lake Superior region were placed on pre worked ancient sites. ALL of them.
Todd stole the words out of my mouth. Good job Todd. Ojibwa? You are one of the few to speak the old knowledge. I am impressed. Respect!
If you are watching my talk in 2024... there is an update. I published a novel exploring this subject called Great Water & The Lost Mines of Lake Superior. Check it out!
The question should be... Who mined millions of tons of copper? The local Indians could only pick at the edges for small amounts from mines that was already there... with stone tools! Pure metal = comet or meteor impact. Volcanic mineral deposits are full of impurities.
Who began mining there 11,700 yrs. ago? If you attempt to answer that question, you’ll be fired!
Better question: Where did all that copper go?!? It sure isn't represented in the record with the trinkets and points found in the mounds and elsewhere. Where did it all go?
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu copper corrodes
@@williambrandondavis68974500 years of plumbing history disagrees with your opinion.
@@williambrandondavis6897 fueled the Bronze Age.
Oh-Jib-Way. Not we
Not very scientific when you decline to provide any control data. Should have provided sediment data for lakes that have no copper mining, ones that had volcanic activity, ones that had meteorite impacts, etc. The fact this data is absent is a huge red flag.
See Pompeani et al Radiocarbon paper published in 2021 where we include a control lake core site.
Need work on your presentation
Nice effort - but there is a difference between what a college professor might want to see and what it takes to put together a coherent presentation.
That what your wife tells you?
I think he did fine on his presentation. free speach . 😊