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- Batman Beyond needs a video game. What would that look like and what would make it successful? #batmanbeyond #batmanarkham
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Chapters:
00:00 Why Batman Beyond?
00:39 Project Sabbath
02:10 The World
04:42 Traversal
07:48 Combat
10:15 Stealth
11:58 Villains
13:26 The Plot - เกม
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Woah, I just had a cool idea.
Smarter thugs in this game will "play dead" and sneak up on you later, to know if they're really dead, you can get the super microphone and detect their heartbeat.
@@QUBIQUBEDhow is that supposed to work for a character that doesnt kill.....
@@dabpoolncrumble2339 the heartbeat would be faster as you get closer to them, rather than slow and rhythmical. You could even just have their color be *purple* instead of *blue* (unconscious) or *red* (aggressive).
Honestly Batman Beyond and Spider-man 2099 deserves a self contained game that is not Edge of Time
Agreed !
Agreed
Man a Spider-Man 2099 game in the style of the Marvel Spider-Man games and Batman Beyond in the style of the Arkham games would be amazing
a hulk 2099 game 😊
@@lucidmind9676no, it would work better in an animated art style
There are a lot of conceptual ways to do a Batman beyond game but the best way to do it would to honestly take the scale of Arkham knight and layer it into tiers.
Upper Neo Gotham
Mid Neo Gotham
Old Gotham
Arkham Island
Have these 4 distinct locations act as the central hub world of the game. Now frankly I would pull back on some of the tech in the beyond suit because sustained flight can easily break the game if it's not balanced (see sonic frontiers with tails)
Where combat is concerned? Terry should definitely be faster than Bruce and stronger since he's younger and has a more powerful suit however he's less experienced so all that speed and power is hard for him to control at first.
When it comes to villains I feel like Blight should be the main villain with characters like Ink acting as side villains. Hell this game could even introduce original villains if it wants.
with the speed and power being hard to control kind of reminds me of dmc3 - when you first start the game its hard to make good combos because the gameplay is very fast paced and encourages you to use your whole arsenal. It would be cool to mix up those two combat systems I think
Nice idea
Maybe even have the story with joker and Tim happen and joker comes back but gets quickly beaten
@@GB1510-yt cool
Also game definitely needs create some new villains. That are not connected to og bats rouges gallery. Well not on surface, one of charms of beyond, was that time isn’t kinda to either heroes or villains. Most of surviving members of Bruce generation are either living out their last day (Bane), are using something to keep themselves alive (Joker and Ras) or survived due particular circumstances (Freeze). Most of Gotham regular criminals that Bruce fought, well retired just like him. The fact that there where only few members of old guard kinda reinforced idea of that, this future.
18:28 that'd be a good moment to establish a Shriek side-mission with Bruce hearing "voices" after leaving the hospital. Terry needs to investigate Bruce's health (wondering if he should do things on his own due to concearn over Bruce's age, feeling more isolated in the process), only to discover a conspiracy led by Paxton who is using Shriek to cut Bruce out of his own company over the claims that he's "not mentally stable". It all ends with Terry's trust in Bruce restored and the knowledge that he doesn't need to do everything by himself. Oh, and a killer boss battle with Shriek would be nice too 🙂
Bro i read this entire paragraph thinking you wrote an entire paragraph about him hearing Shrek voices 💀
Imagine if Shriek's boss battle is like mr. Freeze's one from Arkham city! You would need to attack him on steath while he tries to kill you with the twist being that he disables all the sound of the room, making the sonar useless so you would need to be extra cautious to defeat him
I’ve literally been thinking about a Batman Beyond game for years. It’s such an incredible concept for a game. I even created a rough pitch document describing the gameplay mechanics and loop, story and villains etc. It’s criminal that the Beyond interpretation of Batman has been largely ignored over the last 20 years, aside from comics.
May you please post the document online?
I second this please Id love to study it for ideas for my own projects as well as maybe leave some constructive ideas in the comments somewhere maybe a public google doc since those do allow feedback
@@blindedjourneyman It's not done yet but I'll post it when it's finished.
@@Kensei166 best of luck to ya and thanks, have good day ^^
I think it’s crazy we’ve yet to see a beyond game, it seems like the most obvious “appeal” game. I sense 2025 to be Terrys year
Dude an open world or sandbox map with cities stacked on top of each other would be insane. The first of its kind. I love your idea.
I really like the idea of sonar replacing detective vision like instead of an xray it could be a constant pulse that visually looks messy but shows an enemie's silhouette that gets fainter through walls similarly to the dark knight or daredevil to make the predator maps more challenging
You perfectly read my mind about movement. I would also allow Terry to walk on metallic ceilings, which can be used to line up ambushes from unique angles in stealth
Your sonar idea kinda reminds me of what they did for MJ in the new game. MJ "listens" for hostiles around her, and they appear as red clouds in our immediate field of vision. I feel like if you replace the red clouds with stronger pulses, you got a pretty good model for the sonar vision.
Eww don't mention that crap
So kind of like Joel in The Last of Us on normal difficulty?
@@ArKnighthamhey even trash can have good concepts worth writing down.
It just sounds like the sonar goggles from splinter cell to me
It's crazy that the character of Batman Beyond is coming up to being around for 25 long years and we still haven't got anything with him like a live action movie or video game and I hate when people say because Terry is not Bruce then no one will care about him when that is a bold face lie now because Miles Morales Spider-Man is coming up to being just as popular and mainstream as Peter Parker Spider-Man in all of just 5 years because of the two Spider-Verse movies and the Insomniac Spider -Man games and he has his own love action movie on the way too and I want Terry McGinnis Batman to get this kind of mainstream popularity too
Eww don't mention those terrible games insomniac spiderman is mid and miles is an annoying terrible character and is only popular for diversity sake
@@ArKnightham *We talking about just the insomniac version tho right. Cuz Spider verse Miles is built different*
Terry if done right could definitely get to miles level of popularity, it would take both a movie and game though
@@ArKnighthamcry about it
@hattoripool1533 the games are trash and you have nothing better to do so you reply to a 4 months old comment
I agree that it would probably be more successful for a Batman Beyond game to have a very different Game World than the other games and not just something slightly more futuristic. I wouldn't mind even seeing a completely different art style either, something like Spider-man Shattered Dimensions.
We need a proper Batman Beyond game so badly. Thanks for making this video, game dev companies need to see it. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT PEOPLE! Have it be true to the series, to the characters, have interesting mechanics and good story. Get Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, Alan Burnett and Glen Murakami on it, get the original voice cast and composers on it. Let us roam around the animated series batcave as a base, make Neo Gotham a city we want to live in.
About the plot - I would have the game take place after the animated series, possibly even after Epilogue and after Bruce has passed away. Could be a way for Batman Beyond to say goodbye to Kevin Conroy and explore a story where Terry has to do on his own without Bruce.
@@mr_z_____this is a surprisingly great way to do it. It gives us a lot of grief surrounding Bruce and makes, presumably, the story, more ominous and lonely. I love it.
@@mr_z_____
Yeah, I'd rather pick up after Series 3 and Bruce's death than have someone replace Kevin Conroy. It would also show a more trained and experienced Terry that's more prepared to be Batman without Bruce.
Great concept!
It would be cool to incorporate other Bat Family members in the main story or side stories, like
.Signal
.Orphan
.An old man Red hood and his Robin
.Carrie Kelly
.Batwing
.Rose Wilson
Was just talking about this. With the way we have the gliding system as well as the map side of Spider-Man 2. Gotham city featuring Terry and his mentor Bruce. The ability take everything from Spider-Man 2 with the storyline of an Arkham game the game could be another masterpiece. Everything Terry has in the animated show could be included. From vehicles to allys/cameos and would take a long time but really could be done very well. The stealth and combat as well as use of his gadgets would be just like Spider-Man 2 but ofc that Batman twist would be added. This can even bridge into Miguel OHerra getting his own game as well.
Getting rid of detective mode isn’t just changing the predator missions. Finding grates, following pipe, tailing a trail of blood. Maybe different “vision” forms. One sonar, one a detailed map of the environment? Maybe important information comes onto the Batman’s “radar” automatically, with deep scans used for anything else.
Like a lot of your ideas! Especially map design and flight mechanics.
If you’re including school segments, you definitely need Willie Watt. There are many parallels to his father figure as well.
Yes, please do a full story video for this game at some point in time.
As a Batman Beyond fan, I really like this idea. Sounds like the ideal game for this character. I would suggest for combat that Terry would mainly dodge to evade attacks, but he could have a counter linked to his taser but has a meter similar to the rocket boots & invisibility.
Then rather than a large wheel of gadgets in general he can just be more ability based with the iconic Batarang still being usable but really try to reinforce he is a technologically advanced Batman.
I think a cool way to upgrade the grapple similar to how the beyond batarang is updates is by having the grapple line be more like a construct or beam. I also think it would be a cool visual for terry to make a finger gun to shoot out this grapple beam
Lastly have attack variations be more rhythmic based. Have heavy attacks this time around be based on holding the attack button. However, to pull off specific combos using the attack button in a certain rhythm and maybe combing them with powers could be a cool distinction, especially if a lot of sounds or music is worked into the game
(I think about Batman Beyond way too much, he is my favorite DC character)
As for a new type of combat for Terry that wouldn't just be the same thing from Arkham, I would recommend giving the Agent style from the recently released Like a Dragon: Gaiden a look.
It's a fast, technical style of fighting with heavy use of special tools and gadgets. It even has rocket boots that let you slide around and knock people over.
Combat in that game is really fun and can be very stylish. Make the fighting a bit more acrobatic and tailor the gadgets to fit Terry and I think that could be very cool.
I think a bit of revision of the plot would be needed. I think that Bruce’s/Batman’s “death” would need to be addressed from Arkham Knight. Bruce would be in hiding, and apprehensive about taking up a successor but would be willing to give Terry a chance. You could incorporate an early version of the Beyond suit into it and say that it was the suit Bruce used with fear toxin at the end of AK. I think it could work, but it would definitely still need to follow the Arkham Timeline, since Joker is still conveniently dead, and most of the other villains are still running around (maybe even Ra’s).
True. But if it was me, i would open the game with a chase scene where the GCPD is chasing after batman Beyond following a explosion and theft at Wayne Powers and we will be doing our best to escape. Once we are done, the scene will shift to Dick Grayson watching the news and calling in rest of the bat family to ask who took up the mantle. Once everyone (Barbra, Tim, Jason, Stephanie, Cassandra, Luke and Thomas) claim that they are not the ones acting as the new batman. Dick decides to investigate and determine whether this new batman is a imposter or a kid with a fancy suit who is way over his head. The game would focus on investigating the plot behind who the new batman is and how he got his hands on the suit by different batfamily members and investigating crime scenes and finding clues to establish a motive while also visiting old batcaves for clues as to why and when Bruce built this suit but never mentioned or used it during his career as Batman.
@@shadowknight2500 interesting idea but idk how that would fit in gameplay-wise
Ra’s is either dead or going completely crazy depending on your choice in the dlc
@@isaiahskates6587 sorry for the late response, i was so focused on my character study to make the game as interesting and relevant as possible that i forgot to check in for 2 months.
As for gameplay, i have played almost all batman games. And the one thing i noticed in all those games is that batman is a experienced martialist with years of experience and advanced tech. Batman beyond suit is the most advanced suit ever built. But the tech does not make the bat, the man does.
Every member of the batfamily was trained by Bruce and in more ways than one have the right to the cowl. But why didn't they take up the mantle? When did Bruce built this specific suit? what all gadgets and tech does it have? why didn't Bruce use the suit before he died? where was it stored and how come no one knows about it?
By playing as other family members chasing after the new Batman the players can find answers to these questions and by seeing the character from someone else's view, and know Whether they accept you as the new batman or not. while also coming to know what the suit is fully capable of. This will allow players to know what they can do as Batman when they take over the character during missions.
i spent two months creating the best story board i could think of, while keeping everything relevant and as authentic to the comics as possible.
But, I don't want to bore you if you are not interested.
@@shadowknight2500 I'm definitely interested thank you
The concept trailer by @JamesLuke gives me chills every time I watch it. I would rather a Batman Beyond game 100x more than another regular Batman game. Those have already been perfected. Give us something fresh
Terry McGinnis had the best physique for Batman Beyond as far as I'm concerned. He looked like he was made for speed, agility and stealth.
I'd love to see a PS5 Batman Beyond that incorporates the fast-paced combat and traversal elements of games like Ninja Gaiden and Shinobi from the 6th gen console games, like the wall running, dashing, rolling and jumping.
Yo I really need a full “fan writes” Batman beyond videogame video
Great video, I would like to see something similar but with a game concept for Batman: Gotham by Gaslight. I always thought that a game in a 19th century Gotham would be awesome.
I would absolutely love to see more of this storyline you have, side missions would be cool too.
I have a different approach on some of your ideas and also some ideas of mine:
It would be cool if Terry could use his fingertip audio amplifier to hear across walls and know where the enemies are positioned, like...holding L2/LT + Triangle/Y, would make Terry point his two fingers at whatever the player wants to look at with the camera, and if there's someone behind a wall, you'll hear him breathing or talking, if there's nobody, there'll just be a very subtle noise. After keeping the camera pointing to an enemy behind a wall for about 3 seconds, the enemy would be marked for a brief time. This would be used for stealth missions.
Also, Detective Vision would be replaced by Thermal vision, which would not work against Mr. Freeze.
Gadget controls: LT + RT is just batarangs, LT + B would make Terry throw smoke pellets, LT + Y is fingertip audio amplifier, pressing LB is thermal vision, holding LB would make Batman invisible for a brief time (I'll update this comment when i think of other gadgets).
Most secondary villains like 'Ink' should be side missions that leave teases for future appearances in possible sequels.
Gotham City open world should be AT LEAST as big as Night City in Cyberpunk 2077 with lots of people talking and walking across the streets, there would be some active crimes like robberies and assaults in alleys. If someone fights Batman or shoots a gun, people get scared and run away from the scene, making a good excuse for people to get away so the player can't punch people in the middle of the fight.
Also the city should be filled with colorful neon lights.
I honestly do want a full game description of your Batman Beyond concept.
Yes, I'd love to hear more about this game concept!
Gives us the whole plot!!!! You've gained a new subscriber brother!
Man, I could watch videos like this all day, really enjoy your ideas for games, both in story and gameplay.
Batman Beyond passed me by when I was young, the only interaction I’ve had with any of it is the comic Batman: Beyond the White Knight, which is incredible but I suspect might not be the best starting point. May just need to watch the show after hearing about this game idea. Great stuff as always!
I would love to hear your full ideas for a plot line in a future video! I’m excited for you Arkham Origins 3 story! I loved your other sequel idea
I want them to do a bruce timm styled open world gotham game which sadly we can’t have kevin, mark, or arleen voice anyone it would be awesome to see. definitely wouldn’t be mad to see something similar with batman beyond
Dude your ideas are awesome
I would love to see a full video on the plot of your hypothetical game. Everything you’ve discussed sounds really interesting.
Good to see someone who has truly taken in the source material and can present a compelling case as to why a video game adaptation is the next logical re-entry into this world. Love the references back and forth to the show as well as the various successful elements that make up the recent Spider-Man and how they would translate in a Beyond setting. It's hard not to picture how beautiful it would be to play. Bravo. I hope the right people happen upon this video and set things in motion.
I love how you and I had the exact same ideas for this game.
Like, legitimately, when you were talking about traversal and stealth, everything you said came to my mind right before you said it, it's hilarious.
Putting some of my own ideas out there: If we do a throwback villain, making a Mr. Freeze fight where he adapts and learns each trick you pull, forcing you to get creative with gadgets and such, just like in Arkham City sounds awesome!
Also, I think Terry having air combat would actually be sick as hell. I'm imagining something akin to Devil May Cry. Like, every time you throw a Batarang at someone in the air, they stay up there a little longer-Plus, it could be another way of showing how much more agile and faster Terry is compared to Bruce.
Dawg they could literally just make another Arkham game, but set in the Batman beyond world. It feels like such a no brainer idea that I’m genuinely surprised that no one’s done it yet.
The thought of a Batman Beyond game the way you put it has me drooling....I love the map idea, and the suit was always so slick. Why haven't we seen more of it 😔... we so need this game !
Hey i was just met your channel and you put another great video nice
This idea sounds like a great evolution of the Arkham formula while also introducing people to the Batman of the future. I would love to hear the full story synopsis... after you finish Arkham Origins 3, of course.
I’d love to hear your Batman Beyond pitch (fully). Love your Arkham Origins 2 one.
OK, there's a few things I would change on your list of a Batman beyond game: First off great idea for their level aesthetic feels perfect within Spiderman 2099 references as well as Phantom 2040. That said I would like for detective mode to feel a little not Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd century sorry Terry you're not that smart but something that works in the idea that Terry has access to the computer at instant speeds. Changing up his detective mode then sonar one I think would be too close to a daredevil game to really play into the sonar trick I do think though Terry's having defaults on like different settings of scanners maybe he starts off with the thermal scan and he has to change up certain detective mode settings maybe adding a power meter to his detective mode? You know like how this one is more expensive and more energy consuming because it's stronger and better but at the same time it has some drawbacks because it uses a lot of energy maybe like if you're using detective mode you can't use invisibility. Speaking of I think having this being clearly stated as a power suit where you're kind of balancing between two health bars your own natural health bar and the suits energy/health bar.
Kind of like how Spiderman has his focus meter but not as much. Also light persona influence it's after all Terry is a high school student it would be nice to actually play in the fact that he has to show up for classes he's gonna be exhausted and obviously he does not have side activities. Also let's not forget Terry was in juvie so we can play with his combat style a bit differently maybe even point out that he's picking up different combat styles not as refined as Bruce but he has a tree for it.
Now for the overarching story/villain: while I think Blight/Powers would make sense. Honestly I don't think we should dig deep into that villain arc structure after all what makes Terry different is that unlike Batman having to deal with the mafia the gang violence is more chaotic and uncontrollable each gang has their own codes their own personalities and while they might have a main leader it's nowhere near the same value as the gangs/crime family style in old Gotham! Old Gotham had extortionists, and big criminal schemers. A lot of the gangs are tributes to certain big time criminals super villains which with the exception of the jokerz we don't see that many which I feel kind of is bad in in the comics and in the cartoon series specially I know they want to avoid running into joker beyond two face beyond a cetera beyond but I feel like we could get away with it a bit more clearly in a video game especially with certain villains playing up that idea that they are remembering/tributes to some of the old villains. Maybe playing up with the fact that now almost every goon is similar to when the big bosses of old Gotham. Aside from the clown posse, since we have the splicers I think a gang devoted to killer croc would make really good ideas. And while I love the idea of giving spellbinder his own personal gang I'm not sure who to reference with him with to take have him take over but for a technology based scheming gang I feel like it would be interesting to have it where the Riddler is infamously known for the tech scenarios.
In Batman Beyond lore. There was a time where Damien took over as Batman and used the Neo-Batsuit. We don't know how long this was before Damien quit to join his grandfather.
Man, Terry McGinnis just can't catch a break can he? He's the best legacy character in existence but everyone keeps shoving him aside.
And yes, more please
Please do a full game plot video i really like where this was going lol Ive waited for Batman Beyond to come back into the spotlight as much as Static was originally supposed to get a CW series (and was referenced in Black Lightning, ironically enough)
Some addons, mainly for the bosses!
Maybe each boss has a unique gimmick that changes how you have to use both Sonar Pulse and the rest of Terry's gadgets?
Inque, being able to change her form, shows up as random shapes on Sonar, similar to ambient noise, forcing you to pay attention, and set traps for her.
Spellbinder could have a straight up adaptation of the fight from the show, where Terry has to let Bruce tell him when to counter in order to open Spellbinder up to attack while he temporarily becomes visible.
Shriek would completely nullify sonar, as his boss would have him remove all sound from the area, meaning you can't rely on it.
And finally, the Blight boss battle would take place in a nuclear submarine, where the thick metal walls mean Sonar only tracks him a certain distance, but maybe you have a geiger counter that warns you when he's coming? Maybe even have it so being too close to Blight for too long causes damage, encouraging hit and run tactics.
Also had an idea for the sequel, which could be a semi-adaptation of a scrapped Beyond movie, where Terry faces off against another, more brutal Batman, revealed to be a straight up Bruce Wayne clone. This time, the "clone" would be Damian, leading to some interesting mirror match fights
I think a big thing a Batman Beyond game should be
Is a Different type of Gameplay from Past Batman
I'd say an Action RPG for Terry McGinnis
good ideas i zoned out and forgot it was a youtube video bravo
you nailed everything. this is literally my dream game
bro If were WB i would hire you for the game your concept is really good.
everything you said about gameplay, man I would love all of it, definitely cooldowns on invis and rocket boots. And sonar, I would love the idea of making stealth harder by having a less reliable detective vision. it is the shake we truly need and might even make it hard for the player to do pred sections. Combat is an entirely different beast, but if I am being honest maybe include more dodging? Combo type chains? Counter certain attacks but not all attacks (more often there would be attacks you can't counter, you would have to take out something then be able to encounter, just like riot shields or the stun sticks of old but with more layers)? I don't and like he said, a more brawler type so maybe you have more risk/reward with fights where the longer you beat one enemy with combos he takes more damage but your leaving yourself open to whatever crazy attacks the new foes of this Neo-Gotham would have.
Again I'm not a game designer/maker at all so these are just some spitballed ideas for combat, because at the end of the day it would be really easy to just go straight back to the free-flow system and call it a day. So all we can hope is whoever ends up making a game like this (if it ever happens at all) truly cares and takes care and time to develop new mechanics for an all new Gotham and a all new Batman.
11:24 so kind of like the Sonar arm in MGS V. Except it can highlight more than just enemies
Why aren't you in the dev room making this masterpiece
Great ideas, especially the Bat Radar. Hoping one day we'll see an 'Arkham Future'.
I had some ideas for one as well but it wouldn't just copy the events of the show but set it in a period after the show's events where the villains are already well-established and Terry has been Batman for at least a year. Like the original Arkham Asylum where Batman started out bringing Joker in like it was another Tuesday. Seeing as how the original Asylum was condemned along with Old Gotham, my plot would involve a business magnate building a new Arkham 2.0 specially designed to contain the powerful metahumans that are Terry's Rogues' galley. The only problem is it was publicly announced, and the Rogues don't take kindly to the idea of being locked away forever (especially Mad Stan), forming an alliance to ensure that doesn't happen. And of course the magnate has his own agenda in mind... perhaps secretly being Brother Eye.
Gameplay-wise I think a good way to take advantage of the new setting is to have a more diverse cast of goons. Jokerz, Splicers, Psychics, Slapper Addicts, and cyborgs similar to the ones from April Moon. Have them all fight very differently to force Terry to adapt his strategies. There's also a lot that can be done with a flying Batmobile.
a little correction: batman had in fact the ability to be invisible in the batman Arkham origins game. During the challenge campaign retracing bruce training before becoming batman, during stealth sections, he had a sort of smoke bomb that made him invisible for 20 sec or so. I know this isn't really batman but bruce but just wanted to add this. amazing video and concept btw
Honestly this is a really amazing base for a Batman beyond video game. Because of you my friends and I speculate about this often now.
To add to your point about the world at 3:54, gravity rush 2 actually does what you said spectacularly. It separates the rich society from the poor underbelly, by literally separating them vertically. Each area looks and feels different enough for you to recognize the status of the people that live there. And the game actually shows off beautifully as to reach the poor district. You have to purposefully fall underneath everything which looks like an abyss until you get close enough to the city to see the buildings.
I'd definitely be game for a plot deep dive. Love these.
I'd love to see your full vision for a Batman Beyond game. Your ideas for Arkham Origins 2 & Gotham Knights have been spectacular.
I F***ing love Batman Beyond, and you nailed it. Go make a part 2 bud.
I would absolutely love to hear your script idea, after we get the next Arkham origins story of course
It would be really cool if they hired an urban planner to overlook and provide commentary to the open world. Like, they hire someone and ask “so this is our idea of the city. How would that function in a realistic way?”
Blight and Ink were always my favorite villians from Batman Beyond. Blight was like a mix of lex luthor and a radioactive mr freeze and I always thought they did a good job of that mix. Ink was also just so intimidating and cool.
7:20 wrt the verticality and different districts, i kind of envision something akin to Fifth Element, where we literally -can't- see the bottom of the city in certain areas, because of all the garbage stacked up below, though for Gotham it wouldn't be hard to have Crime Alley/'old gotham' be relatively clear because of efforts by Bruce to preserve the area.
I always imagined Natasha Henstridge voicing Commissioner Barabra Gordon.
Batman beyond and Spider-Man 2099 are top on my wishlists for a game , cyberpunk environment with a badass superhero
I'm still waiting for writing Arkham Origins 3 video. I'm also waiting for a new Batman Arkham rewrite but with aspects from the Batman Telltale Games like having Lady Arkham and The Children Of Arkham as villains and having Tiffany Fox take the mantle of Batgirl.
WB Montreal, I think, would be great for making this beyond game. Since I love Arkham Origins so much, I believe they are good at making amazing set pieces and excellent cinematically and presentation. But they I suspect they would need a lot of time and supporting development teams to refine the gameplay up to standards that Rocksteady did. Of this Beyond game is a go, it would be nice to have a final departure from the Arkham Series, especially with how Gotham Knights was a let down.
the invis shall work like the smoke bombs. to use it for a shortenamount of time just to get out of sight or for two takedowns
A Terry McGinnis game is the perfect opportunity to use that concept I came up with back in 2014. Shriek, the mad GENUIS of sound. If there was a boss fight with Shirek, obviously batarangs would be shattered easily in an instant. Let’s say the fight goes on and you perform a stealth takedown behind him. Shriek would then mute all sound around him and amplify the sound of sneaking footsteps; forcing you to not use the same tactic twice.
Performing a glide kick and a overhead batarang attach would work but then Shriek would amplify the sound to hear sounds of wings flapping and batarangs cutting the air which would not get the drop on him.l; never use the same tactic twice.
Also, smoke bombs and hiding in the darkness is useless against Shreik because since he is a master of sound, how is sound used to see? Echolocation. Shriek would blast a sound pulse from his helmet which would display images of sound impulses back enabling him to be aware of his surroundings.
Great job on your video game
You did a good job making this pitch but I would still love to see the Damian Wayne Batman Game get revived cause it has some untapped Potential too and I will be designing my take on Damian's Batsuit as if it was the Final Version.
the sonar mechanic was actually done in mgs5 in a much simpler way i think it could be a combination of that (where it makes an audible sound that can attract enemies within around 5-10 meters) and listen mode from tlou
Batman Beyond, Batman who laughs, spiderman 2099 and spider verse all deserve their own games and live actions
Could also do the origin as a DLC story. That way we get the full story, but can get the slower burn origin when people are already bought into the setting, characters and gameplay.
What about the court of owls and Killer Croc because in the recent Batman beyond Comics they turn up read Batman: Neo-gothic. Also you forgot about the Terrific Trio.
This video is brilliant ngl
I love these ideas for a game. Bring back the cast(if possible) Have Bruce Greenwood be old Bruce. He has a scruffy styled voice and has played batman before. Old man Bruce can be Terry's Orale, giving advice.. idle chatter, ideas on how to crack a case/detective breakdowns. And as you stated eventually working with Barbara and then back to Bruce towards the end. Ink could pose as a killer throughout the game where Terry would need to use a different style of detective know how to catch her. Jokers as the thugs on the street. Also in combat using his thrusters perhaps to take on or out lager style bosses.. either street level or higher. Also having Terry as a brawler type fighter and chase a more creative fighting style as mentioned.
this video is so good I almost don’t want to finish it because I know it’ll never happen
the moment i saw the title i shouted in my head “YESSSSSS”
So many great ideas
It's not an issue of making it work. You could very easily make it work in multiple ways. It's a matter of someone actually just doing it.
Also, the Damien Wayne Batman game is clearly derived more from the hellish possible future of Batman #666 with just some elements of Batman Beyond with the suit and old mentor Bruce. That's why it doesn't look like Batman Beyond because that's not really what its going for.
What i think would be a really good beginning to a game is, what if Bruce was never there to help Terry. This game is in the Arkham series so Bruce is dead, what we do is we go years after Bruce's pasing. The crime world would be rising uncontroleably without a batman being there to stop them. But then Terry being a brat sneaks in to what used to be the great Bruce Waynes mansions, what is now abandoned. And while messing around there he somehow finds his way into the bat cave, and sees a project of what Bruce was working on. That project being the batman beyond suit. And Terry tries it on and stuff and Bruce made a AI for the suit incase alfred dies, and so that AI then sort of bonds with Terry so that it will help him and keep him save. And the rest i havent thought of yet but i thought of this while wathcing the vid and thought i should maybe share. If you got anything that doesnt make sense or something that will make it better, just comment would love to talk more about this.
For Batman Beyond combat I would took inspiration from Dark Messiah Of Might And Magic. This game was described as a huge tavern brawl fight throughout the realm.
And that "tavern brawl" feeling would fit Terry better than ninja ways of Bruce.
I think a way you could gameify flying is just keep him from going above the buildings... maybe there's electric barrier that keeps people in flying cars from going up that high or something. So you can fly as much and as fast as you want, but there are tons of bridges and cars and other obstacles in your way. That way once you master it youre able to zip through all of them and feel really powerful
I’ve got a few ideas for the combat and a shorter one for the traversal.
For the traversal I think that I agree with your ability to dive being important. I think you should be able to manually start a dive, but for EVEN more speed, you can hold down the rocket boosters and it propelled you even further, the only problem being if you crash you take damage, whereas a normal dive you would land safely. If you’re normally diving and tap the rocket boosts though, whatever direction you are wanting to move, you will either barrel roll or shoot forward and keep your momentum, allowing a faster and more precise break out of your dive.
For the combat I think he should be facing smaller groups of enemies. I think it should be kind of similar to ghost of Tsushima and with the fluidity and grounded ness of something like sifu, with a batman beyond twist. Like having a parry that can give you a window to counter attack if you hear a certain noise and the screen flashes, otherwise you have to keep parrying. I think a parry and a dodge adds a lot because he isn’t as muscly as Bruce. And if you double tap dodge, you can cover more distance, which gives you a spin too, that maybe adds more power to your batarangs. I think that there should be a degree of lock on to the combat system, but you have to be within range, no snapping like Bruce Wayne in the Arkham games. Light attacks and heavy attacks should have very noticeable timings, and I think for the air combat I’d say you can have the rocket boosts be available as a gadget, meaning you can use them to shoot up into the air. And in the air you can combo people to keep yourself there.
Enemy types that I can think of right now, I’ll start with the humans:
I think there should be an average enemy type which are mainly just fodder to build your combo for a finisher, but like sifu sometimes they get power ups. There should be a light class that attacks fast and requires multiple parries, but can be taken out by a single counter attack. And heavies should only require one dodge for human enemies. A perfect dodge will give you a slow motion chance to get serious damage in.
For the spliced animals I think there should be only heavies and lights. The only difference here being that the light animals can attack from a range too, like a snake stretching it’s head and trying to snap you. You can then deflect it and pull it by it’s neck to your position for a ‘kill’. The heavies here should have a basic combo that requires two or three dodges, have a charge that needs you to batarang them and then a slam attack that requires you to roll away.
For the mech enemies I think you should be using most of your gadgets on them. Basic batarangs can open them up for a finisher, but they require a lot of hits to do that. You can have more specialised gadgets with longer cool-downs specified to taking these out, and you should only be able to dodge these. They can also have ranged attacks.
The enemies will shout get down if they are about to shoot their rifle, which requires a dodge, like ghost of Tsushima.
Overall I want a complex and empowering system, that feels cool from the get go but requires mastery near the end of the game. I also think it’s got great potential for a boss fight.
Maybe there can also be a grab mechanic that most enemies are immune to until stunned, that lets you throw, knock out, or hold hostage people. This can be used as a way to stop people from firing, but if not executed correctly, the opponent can break free and you will take massive damage. I think a time limit would be very useful, and I also think for stealth situations it would make for some interesting gameplay scenarios. The ai may try and negotiate, like put down their guns, or they might just shoot anyway, which means you’ll get a small window to choose a grapple point and throw the enemy out of the way of the fire.
i want you to be the game director you clearly have the vision don’t even worry about experience we’ll surround you with the right people
I was working at WB when they were developing Batman Beyond, what we saw was basically a copy with a Batman Beyond skin but I remember everybody being super excited. Got scrapped soon after for unknown reasons, maybe due to the DC movies coming out in the following years that had nothing to do with Batman Beyond so sales, marketing, etc. you know how it is.
Now that spiderman 2 is out, I think the gliding system in that is perfect for Batman beyond speed wise the rockets boost should be a boost but on a limit
I think a mix of sifu and Spider-Man 2 would be a great combat system
Mid air fights where your wings can be slowly damaged, and eventually send you tumbling to the lower districts
There was one on the ps1 that I loved as a kid
I would buy a BATMAN BEYOND game.
I imagine Bruce getting out of the hospital would be a mission similar to the episode with Shriek trying to get Bruce to game end himself. That would be cool
So your idea for a detective mode replacement is more like Eagle Vision in Assassin’s Creed, albeit not making distinction between friend or foe? Shriek did in one episode create an area of total silence, which would render sonar useless and a no noise level for navigating and boss fight would be interesting to play.
I think one thing that would definitely need to be addressed is the suit itself. Arkham Knight's Beyond suit fits well with that game's setting, as it isn't futuristic, so the suit looks more suited for military use, just like everything else. However, Batman Beyond is more futuristic dystopian, which means a change in style entirely. Personally, the problems I have with the other variations of the suit is the material and how bulky it looks, though that is moreso due to the style of the Arkham games and Bruce's body type. Already, Terry will look good in the fully black suit, but I feel a change in style will help even more. Maybe not a cartoonish style, though perhaps more cel shading could help while keeping the dark vibe of Batman. Plus, if it has a more realistic style, you could end up either bombarded by colors and neon lights, or have a hard time seeing in the dark. Though, that is, of course, just my thoughts on the matter.
Looking at it as a "Arkham Batman Beyond Game.
Im gonna Spitball some Ideas,
Just to get them off my chest.
So I'm thinking,
to pay Homage to the Original Series,
It would be Following The same Story, But Tweaked to fit as The next Chapter in This Batman's Life.
Having Batman in the Oracle position, Training Terry.
Bring what made that show good.
Like a boss fight would Be the scene where InQ Takes over The Batsuit,
Reinstating the message That It's not the suit that matters,
But the man inside it.
Another cool Idea is That Azreal Comes Back,
He's all half Jealous that Terry got chosen
instead of him.
So Azreal Challenges Terry in multiple Different ways.
And finishes it with a Boss Fight that makes you Feel like you're fighting the original Arkham Batman.
After Terry beats him,
Azreal accepts defeat and, without a purpose,
attempts to kill himself by Impaling his sword
(from the Arkham knight good ending) In through his chest.
But Terry Stops Azreal,
And they come to a compromise.
Azreal becomes The New Robin.
Another Idea is That,
During one of Terry's adventures,
He Discovers Damien,
The last League of Assassins members, still loyal to Rha-al-ghoul
(Can't spell his name)
Uses their Leader's DNA, mixes it with Taila and Bruce Wayne's DNA.
Fuze all that with The Lazerous pit.,
And out Comes Damien.
I'd Imagine that ace The Bathound gets his own side quest.
Because...well... He's Not only adorable,
(But Look at Him!😊,
-Cough-)
but Ace had one of the Better appearances In the Batman Beyond series.
The Joker's Return Movie Would Still Happen in this game,
But t's one of the More Major Side- quests,
Not The Main Plot.
The Main Plot would Not only Follow Very Similarly to it's Inspired Three season show,
But also That Plot line in the Justice league and Batman beyond Crossover.
I feel that,
while we'll still get to ride The Arkham Knight Batmobile,
We Could also get to Fly the Bat-Jet,
Where you can Sky Dive out of it.
The gadget wheel would be way bigger,
Including all old stuff and maybe some ney toys as well.
I Feel like, Terry's Rocket Boost
Would be an upgradable Thing.
I was thinking That The Secret Final Twist Boss Fight of this game would Be Batman Himself.
Fighting The Demon Batman, in all of its Fear-enducing glory.
Oh mabey a side quest could Be Related To Man-Bat,
Who escaped in Arkham Knight, if you played the game on Halloween.
As another thing I would incorporate as a DLC,
Would be Barbera Gorden Teaching Three New Bat girls.
(An adaptation of The Mystery of the Batwomen Movie Plot)
A Couple of DLC ideas I had were:
That one Member of The Royal Flush gang that Falls in love with Terry,
(Can not remember her name.)
Finds Catwoman, and gets Trained By her to Become The NEXT Catwoman.
Another DLC goes Through Terry Finding the Rest of The Bat-family
And get to play as them back when they were still in their prime.
Including a Playable Damien.
Not much else to say.
The Next DLC would Follow The newer and older Joker gang,
and any Villains willing To Tag along...
going on this Bizzare, Anti-hero Journey To Save Future Gotham,
Avoiding any Heroes, as much as possible.
This DLC will be
Serving as Closure for any remaining Batman villains.
Like Terry Finds InQ,
After her Daughter Backstabs her, saves InQ by Gathering all the Lost Prices of InQ
And Providing a non-sabotaged Cure.
This DLC would Honour an
Old Batman game called:
"Gotham CIty Imposters"
Where all the Gangs, Goons and Factions all Come out of Hiding and Bring Gotham Back into a little bit of chaos.
From old Arkham asylum inmates, freed by Joker way back when,
To the Two One-armed Twins from Arkham City,
To The Arkham Knight's Former Malitia,
And More.
Each Faction would have their own Mini Campaign.
Playing as your own Customizable Thug,
you get into all sorts of Mischief,
And get to enjoy The Classic humour that The Goons throughout the Arkham verse brought.
The Last DLC is where Terry is in a fight,
and in this Fight,
Terry's Identity gets revealed to His girlfriend.
Afterwards Terry goes Missing.
Terry's girl friend(forgot her name)
Goes to Wayne manor,
Where She Discovers the batcave, and Becomes The New Batgirl.
Oh, During This Game,
Riddler Returns,
and Instead of Trying to kill Terry,
Edward Nigma instead Has this Plan.
Without the original Batman,
Riddler wasn't able to challenge anyone like he used to do in the Arkham games anymore,
Making him sad and Bored.
So When Riddler Hears of this New Batman coming along,
Edward Nigma Thinks Terry has a Lack of Intelligence, when he couldn't answer a basic riddle.
So To Make Terry an Equal,
Riddler Makes it his Mission To:
Fill This Future Gotham with More Riddles, More Contraptions, More Criminally insane Race Tracks,
And heaven forbid...The Riddler Trophies.
All For Science,
Pushing Terry and Riddler Beyond their Limits.
So yea That's Basically what I could Come up with as a Concept
For a Batman Arkham Beyond game
Your Vids are great, have a nice Day.
A batman beyond game even a trilogy have so much potential. As for timeline this is roughly a year after the death of warren mc ginnis, terry has been batman for 6 months with bruce mentoring him every step of the way, he has taken on jokerz, goons with slappers, splicers and cyber enhance crooks. As for villains while blight, inque, shriek and spellbinder and excelent choices add new incarnations of the royal flush gang, the court of owls, add some of the newer rogues like ghost maker, mr bloom, punchline, freeze, clayface, the terrible trio, nocturna etc. As for allies barbara is a must treating terry more like a kid trying to get him out of the life, max gibson as tech support, older versions of members of the batfam like cassandra cain, duke thomas, clownhunter you name it. I can already see the titles
Batman beyond : blight
Batman beyond: cult of kobra
Batman beyond: return of the joker
I WANT A BATMAN BEYOND GAME SO BADLY, GIVE HIM A GAME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all need to start a Batman beyond game petition
I loved _The Animated Series_ as a kid, and I loved _Batman Beyond_ too… I think it was probably my first exposure to dystopian science fiction and cyberpunk 🤙