I started using a 25-06 in 1993. Great caliber for whitetail. I bought my son one. Minimal recoil. Sight in 2.5 inches high at 100 and your MPBR is about 300 yards.
25-06 is a sleeper especially if you reload! Bullet weights from 75gr to 135gr. With the standard 10tw and an 87gr Bullet you can extend that mpbr out to 400yds on a 4" target an have a coyote killing lazer. Step up to a 7.5tw and the 130gr bullets and you have a mile target rifle for banging steel or a 800yd pronghorn/whitetail load. Disadvantage is that a 25-06 is very overbore and really shines with a 26" or longer barrel and slow burning magnum powders that are hard to find lately.
@@kirkmartin2223 I've got a tikka t3x lite stainless with a 22 in barrel in 25-06. 100grn speer btsp at 3234fps and 80grn mono's at 3500fps using AR2209 (H4350).
@@bruce6099 I have a Howa with a 26" preferred barrel blanks barrel. 75gr vmax @ 3675fps. MPBR is 410yds on a 4" target and it will cut a coyote almost in half lol. It will run them up to 3735fps @40°f but that's on the extreme upper end bordering disaster. Shoots factory Remington 120gr coreloks sub 3/4". Been thinking about a tikka build with a switch barrel setup for a 1:10tw and a 1:7.5tw. 10tw with a #2 sporter and the 7.5tw with a medium Palma. If I bought 2 more barrels they'd be 25-06AI or 25 Sherman for more speed.
@Kirk Martin The one thing that would worry me about building a fast twist on a tikka is mag length for the longer projectiles. That wouldn't be a problem if you used an ai mag system, though. If i ever burn the barrel out on this tikka, I'll probably go to a 24-inch barrel just so i dont have to push the loads so hard to get the velocity.
The good thing about took a is they offer one actin length. The bolt stop and bolt can be special ordered for different calibers. Oregon mountain does a lot of work on them and have barrel blanks to fit. If the bit face hasn't been altered, then it is a simple screw in barrel change.
Pretty sure it’s the 7th best selling hunting cartridge as of a year or so ago. It’s more popular than most people think but it doesn’t seem to get much press
I definitely think 300 and 338 RCM deserved a lot more love than they ever got, especially 338 RCM. I can distinctly recall a few months ago everyone losing their minds over Weatherby's new 338 RPM, particularly for its ability to be used in a lighter/handier rifle than the 338 Win Mag. Well, 338 RCM was specifically designed to recreate the 338 WM in a 20in short action (instead of a 24in long action), which means it did literally everything people love about 338 RPM over a decade earlier. 300 RCM, on the other hand, was probably never going to take off because it doesn't matter that, other than being fractionally lower performance, it was better than 300 WSM in every way; all anyone cared about is that it had fractionally lower performance than 300 WSM (although I well admit that being a Ruger round didn't help).
I love my 25-06 and I appreciate newer calibers as well. But i think something people kinda are missing is the 300 win mag is just a machine. In modern rifles the kick is not bad and it has pretty decent bullet drop and you have a little more range to work with compared to some of the lighter newer calibers. It's just my personal opinion some of these newer calibers are trying to keep up with the 300 but they can't. To put it into truck terms people are buying a f250 and putting helper bags on it when they just could have bought an f350.
While I completely agree with a LOT of your assessments... please keep in mind we don't all live where things like a 280 AI or a 300RCM are necessary. Here in NewEngland, a 308 or a 25-06( varmints to deer) or a 350 legend or any of the traditionally accepted 200 yard to 275 yard cartridges are perfect. A 30-30 works... a 45-70 works ... but we don't need those 400 to 600 yard rigs here, we seldom (sometimes we do, but not often) need or want such long reach. Virtually all of our deer hunting is done off-hand...no sticks or trees or other rests due to the fleeting moments we get to see-aim-fire. So While your channel, opinion and experience is valid, there are other points of view and equally valid positions. Just remember the rest of us, too.
I would call the 300rcm a blend of the 308 and 300wsm My winchester model 70 featherweight has CRf in300 wsm it feeds into the chamber as smoothly as any gun that i have ever cycled.
I think a lot of people are afraid to get stuck with a rifle that has a "new and improved" cartridge they can't now, and eventually never, find ammo for, and if they can find it, it is an insane price.
@@HA51971 Right, but compared to any cartridge that is actually popular, the 6.5CM isn't all that popular or have that many rifles chambered in it. Plus, it benefits from basically existing in other forms for 100+ years.
@@D_Boone not sure where you got the idea that 6.5 creedmoor isn't popular? backfire had a article that said 6.5 creedmoor was #3 best selling cartridge only being beaten by 22lr and 223 by volume.
I'm glad you mentioned the 300 wsm. It is like all of the youtubers are trying to kill the wsm series of cartridges. The 7mm WSM is a fantastic round.The 6.8 western is almost a WSM case.
My 6mm Creedmoor is my most accurate rifle. I shoot 5 inch group’s regularly at 1000 yards. And my two 6.8 Westerns shoot well at 1000 yards with any bullet. Love these guns. Very happy to have them in my collection.
I have a 300 RCM and it's extremely hard to find ammo and when you do you'll pay an arm and leg for it. I just started reloading for it last November. Great video
@@bensears7499 I do have a love affair for the 7X57, I reload it with copper pills, load it with enough speed to get them to open in the ranges I deal with and it's easy on my worn out shoulders, just a gentle push. if I ever the get the chance to hunt something bigger than pigs or deer, I can load it up with enough horsepower to get the job done!
Finally someone else agrees! The 6.5 is a decent cartridge but it lacks velocity. The 6 creed/6mm remington both do about the same on game, but going much faster and flatter. If you want a short action that hits like a truck, go 308 or even 300wsm.
You know it's bad when Ruger doesn't even make a rifle chambered in 300RCM. After looking at this, it's a real shame you can't get it anymore. I think IF Hornady could reintroduce this under their name it would do much better.
After thought, the 6c would have made a great military round. I have taken elk, pronghorn, Mule deer, whitetail, and moose with a 30/06. I could have used a 30/30 in all cases with success.
The 300 RCM has always been my pick for the best big game hunting cartridge since it was introduced. I think if more gun manufacturers chambered for it and more ammo companies beside hornady loaded ammo it would be more popular. Epically since it was designed for short barrels which is in favor today with suppressors. I also have built a 11.3 300 Ham'r so I can hunt suppressed and it's great in a tree stand as well.
@Tammy Fuller typo hornady loaded the ammo. The sales pitch was not thay it was faster than the wsm it has slightly less case volume so that's wrong. It was that it was designed for short action rifles and designed for short 20 inch barrels also while giving performance greater than 30-06 and coming close to wsm in a 20 inch barrel. It also has no rebated rim so feeds better as well. Design wise it IS a better cartridge I think. The wsm was loaded by all the different ammo manufacturers which is the main reason why it was successful I think. I wouldn't mind a 7mm RCM as well, would be perfect for hunting and long range shooting.
I wish 7mm08 was more popular. You can use it for basically anything with minimal recoil. Where I am I haven’t been able to find ammo for years now in 7mm08.
Hello, I own the .300 rcm in the guide gun platform. When I bought my rifle I bought 6 or 7 cases of ammunition, all different styles all hornady made. Every load shot inside an inch at 100 yards, the heavier bullets and copper bullets did better. I have not ever been disappointed with my rifle or ammunition. I do have dies and and what not, but until I run out of factory ammunition, I have no need to reload, and I don't shoot it that much. Thanks for your videos!!!!
6.8 western was like metric system in USA, it was hyped up, the day came it launched, then it disappeared. No one promotes it at all now. Haven’t seen a rifle or ammo in long time. Crazy for how good it is ballistically.
2 things, for a time I hunted with a 25-06. It killed way above its pay grade! The word authority comes to mind when it comes to how it takes down deer and hogs. One of the biggest blunders in ammunition history is the 30 Remington AR. If this cartridge would’ve caught on there would be no 6.5 Grendel or 6ARC or any of these cartridges that have been trying to replace the 5.56, with the exception of the 277 fury. The 30 RAR was truly the cartridge that would make the AR-15 platform a venerable big game platform.
I know why everybody wants more speed,and that speed is sexy.But that being said,speed is not always desirable.Here in the southeast,where shots at 300 yards is pretty rare,and the deer are smaller,speed often destroys more meat than desirable.I have shot many deer with 308,30/06,300 win mag and 257 Roberts.I actually prefer the 257,because it's going slower,uses lighter bullets and destroys less meat if you have to take a less than perfect shot broadside.Thus I think the 6.5 cm is better than the 6 cm.Im not one to always jump on the newest bandwagon,but I do think the 6.5 cm fits a perfect niche.Just my thoughts.
I hunt with a great .25 Caliber -.257 Roberts Ackley Improved. Pretty equal with .25-06 performance but with way less powder. .257 Roberts A.I. is more efficient than the .25-06. My rifle has a 1-8” twist and shoots the 110 grain and up bullets very well. Many Gun writers say the .257 Roberts A.I. is one of Ackley’s best wildcats. My dad hunted with an 18” barreled 25-06 A.I. and it was awesome. 25-06 velocities our if a very short, handy rifle.
I think going light for caliber is overlooked as an option without requiring a new rifle. A 95 grain 6.5CM is flying 3100 feet/sec. So thats as fast as a 243 Winchester, for example but generally carrying a little more mass. And a 110 grain 308 is screamimg at 3300 feet/sec. Then both those calibers have tons of other load offerings. Just need to resight in for your particular hunt.
If you dally in the world of 25 cals for long you will fall in LOVE. Been shooting 257 Roberts for my whole life and I have never found a more pleasant cartridge to put a whitetail on the ground with.
I'm very glad that they're making fast twist rate rifles for .270 Winchester. I don't really care about the 6.8 Western, but I would love to have high-BC, heavy bullets available for my .270 when I eventually get it rebarreled.
funny enough, my gun safe is dominated by 6mm Creedmoor and 6.8 Western. The good news is my ammo safe and loading bench are stuffed full of those calibers goodies. my trusted 270 has it's place in the mix, but the other two dominate.
I actually agree with you on all of those cartridges. I absolutely love my 25-06. It’s a great round for women and kids to hunt with. We have taken everything from elk to prairie dogs with it. Low recoil, flat trajectory, and fairly decent range of bullet weights. As long as it has 1:10 twist you can do a lot of things with the 25-06. I’ve actually owned two of them and both were extremely accurate and would shoot .25 MOA consistently.
Jim, I watched this Hornady podcast and had the exact same thought about 300RCM. I've never had an issue feeding cartridges in my Browning A-bolt 300WSM. Magazines for the X-bolt seemed sketchy, so that might be the reason people are having feeding issues--just a thought. 30TC is the parent case for the Creedmoors, so it seems strange that 30TC has all but been abandoned.
Great video. I really like my 6.8 Western. Up in northern Utah I see 6.8's on the shelf pretty regularly. Sportsman's has quite a few (40'sh) variations of it now on their site. I hope it doesn't die, but I agree with your assertion. They are BLOWING the marketing campaign tremendously!
I see 162gr Copper extreme and 170gr Ballistic Silvertip on the shelves around me both for ~$45 per box. I just got my reloader set up and spun up a ladder with a 145 ELD-X in front of Magpro. Now I just need some time at the range.
6.5x55SE. Its like a 6.5 creedmore, but with better performance all while designed in 1891. Takes anything but the largest of game (large canadian/alaskan moose) and used to win medals in both precision- and speed shooting all through scandinavia.
Yep, I been shooting one since 1989. I even took a couple of bull elk with mine. I really like 120 gr Barnes X bullets in it. Plenty flat shooting for as far as you should ever shoot at living game. Plenty of bullet weight for most of the game that is hunted. For my deer hunting (White Tails) I shoot a 120 gr Remington 6.5 bullet, I bought them in bulk back in 1990 they had boxes of 5000 so I bought two. Shoots well and works even better on the White Tails and the occasional hogs I get to shoot when I am in TX.
@@danielrouw2593 Sure it could be a solid choice if you really want that extra performance. Especially if you dont reload. Personally i would look into something like a 6.5prc or 6.5-06 if you want that class of performance. Ackley himself mentioned that the 6.5x55 was already an efficient design and there were many other cartridges far more deserving of being improved. Really goes to show the excellence of the cartridge design.
Definitely a great list that you made there. It is sad to see the 300 RCM all but disappear 🫥. Sadly with Winchester and Browning horrible marketing the same might be true of the 6.8 Western. My youngest brother got one in the Browning XBolt Hell Canyon Long Range. Sadly it has been difficult here in the east to find ammo unless it’s the Power Point and maybe Copper Impact. He tried both and they shot terrible. It’s been impossible to find heavy for caliber .277 bullets so he found a good load for the Hornady ELDX 145s essentially making a .270 WSM. Speaking of WSM I do like my 300 WSM. I want to build a 7mm rifle someday to fit in between my 270 Win and 300 WSM, the 280 AI and 7 PRC. As for the 6mm CM, my Dad has a .243 Win so I wouldn’t mind a different 6mm so the 6mm CM fits the bill. The 25-06 is sweet from what I’ve heard and I wouldn’t mind one, but I am leaning toward the 257 Weatherby Mag aka the Death Ray.
I chose the 6 creedmore over the 6.5c with a heavy barrel. It consistantly hits a coyote target at 800 yards. I agree that the 25/06 is a great hunting round but has been limited on the choice of bullets. It has never been considered a compeition round.
I wish there were 125-135gr hunting rounds available. That'd make the .25 caliber much more intriguing to me. I think the heaviest currently is 120gr - at least from the major manufacturers anyway.
I just bought an x-bolt in 6.8 western and what I'm noticing in my area (eastern Wyoming) is that the rifles are readily available almost everywhere I go, but NOT the ammo. I wasn't planning on handloading right away, but I might have to. 😖
6.5 CM, 280 rem, 300 wsm are my favs. All 3 have done well for me. And never have had feeding issues in my Browning Abolt II in 300 wsm I bought in 2003.
You gotta mess up pretty bad to miss with a 6.5 Creedmoor especially with the 120's - 129/130's at 400. Everyone thinks that you need to shoot 140's and up in the 6.5 Cm, not so. Load up some 120's of your choice and plant those whitetails at 400 like they are at 100. I like the 300RCM and the 270WSM but the 7mmPRC IMHO is going to put them on the out to pasture and without support don't even consider the 6.8 Western.
I have to disagree with you on the 6.8 Western and the 6mm Creedmoor being better than the 270 WSM or 270 Win, or the 6.5 Creedmoor.. I do like the old timer 25-06. It is a good cartridge. As for me, I'm a fan of 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, 270 Win, 308 Win, 7mm-08. I also like the 6.5x55, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor. The little 243 has its place as well. Especially for women and younger kids learning to shoot and hunt. Be safe and good hunting.
So bummed about the 6.8 western. I love mine. I have enough loaded cartridges, to keep me busy with it for a while and then enough bullets, primers and powder to probably burn out the barrel. If someone would pump out some brass, I'ld be set.
I've always been a huge Quarter Bore fan and currently own a 700 Long Range 25-06 and 70 Super Shadow 25 WSSM with plans to build a custom 1:8 28" rifle in either 25-06 AI or 257 Blackbird. The down side to 25-06 is that it really shines with a 26" barrel do to its inherently "overbore" nature which was stated when Remington initially adopted it as a commercial cartridge. I was also hoping that 6.8 Western would have gotten more traction but I do agree that it is lacking in case capacity. I'm curious to see how a .277-7 PRC performs.
I think the 6.8 western lost out because nobody else wanted to load for it. As far as I know only Winchester loads 6.8, not federal, hornady, nosler, remington. I also heard people saying when it came out that, it was just a 270 WSM with a faster twist barrel (I understand twist is not the only thing that changed). Interesting cartridge but it was like a flash in the pan, everybody was talking about it until two weeks later and it was on to the next thing.
I don’t blame Browning for starting to barrel fast twist rifles. It’s only a matter of time until all manufacturers get on board. Ammo availability makes it an interesting proposition for me… I would buy a fast twist .270 rifle over a 6.8 Western simply because of ammo availability in my area… Also, maybe they’ve conceded, given up, that the 6.8 will compete with the PRCs or Creeds… They should’ve named it the 6.8 PRC or .270 Creedmore, prolly would’ve helped.
I've had many 270 win rifles and I really like it and if I had one now I wouldn't change but now that I don't have a 270 win I'm definitely interested in the 6.8 western
I've been thinking about building a 6mm creedmoor but can't decide if I should go bolt action or AR style. That could make for a pretty cool video... What calibers function better in each for hunting purpose! Another video idea is what calibers work better suppressed and in a bolt action or AR style!
My bro have taken moose and grizzly with the 6.5 creed. The 6mm creed makes a big hole on caribou with the 103 eldx. 25-06 I have and I have seen ppl kill grizzly and moose with 25-06.
Ive personally have shot elk with my 6.5 and havnt had to track any of them. I will say tho that if you use 120 grain bullets instead of 143 grain, the wound cavity isn't the best even with deer. However if you use the 143 grain, you shouldnt have any issues
@Darian Gilman hard to find ammo in alaska so I have to shoot any ammo I find with the 6.5prc.but when I hit them even at distance they drop right on the spot.if I chest shoot caribou with it,it makes a hole so I started neck shooting them and havet had any problems with holes or blood shot meat. It hits them so hard it jells the lungs and heart even when I neck shoot them
I would agree with your take on the 25-06. I would add the 35 whelen or the 358 win. 35 whelen limits the need for magnum calibers in any cases. You can hunt anything in north america from probably 250 yards in. There are more powerful calibers but sometimes (often forgotten) enough is enough.
I have the 30/06, 7mm08, 270, 25/06 and a 243 for meat getters. If I had to do a 24 cal again I would get the 6mm Rem with a 1-8 twist instead of the 243. I'm building a 260AI for my 6.5mm itch.
I know that they aren't very popular, but at some point I'm going to get rifles in .338 Federal, .300 RCM and a .338 RCM. Even if it means having the rifles I have re-barreled into these cartridges. These just seem like fun, efficient and effective cartridges as long as you aren't shooting ridges out west.
I live out west, and the .300 rcm is a great western ridge rifle as is the .338 rcm, or if you prefer, a bean field rifle back east. The .300 rcm has more ass on it than the 30-06. The 7mm mag. Pushing a 175gr. and .300 rcm pushing a 180gr. are damn near identical in every way except one is a long action, the other short action.
People always say they wish the 6.8 western was popular and if it was that they’d own one. Just buy it! If everyone who said that bought one it would be popular.
I don’t know maybe it’s just me but I think the 270 Winchester with a fast twist barrel makes way more sense than a 6.8 western ever did 🤷🏻♂️ heavy bullets in a 270 Winchester make it the ultimate elk rifle in my opinion!
I love my 6 creedmoor! Its my go to rifle for coyotes which is my main game most of the year. the 87 grn Vmax hammers them and gives me more wind deflection than the 58 grns. I've taken several shots at coyotes past 350 yards and not a one has budged after impact. One Cartridge that I am not sure if Backfire has gone over is the 6mmARC. That is my AR15 platform and while I am still developing a good load for it ,the accuracy has been sub MOA form all factory offerings. I am exited to see how my handloaded 87 grn Vmaxs do out of it on coyotes but the accuracy is 3/4 MOA or better.
Jim, could you PLEASE get a new hunting rifle in 7mm-08 or borrow one and give us an in depth review please? Or even a new video with ammo choices for it. Thanks again, God bless
Big fan of 6.8 western poor timing to release mid pandemic and right before the 7 prc. It is an amazing cartridge but I don't know if I'll get it just due to the chance of it fizzling and me scrambling to get everything I need to reload for a life time.
The 300 RCM is basically a 30-06 in a short action with a 20" barrel. They should never have called it a magnum as that just makes people either shy away from it or compare it unfairly to the 300WSM and 300WM. I think it is a fine hunting cartridge, but wouldn't buy one unless I knew I could get my hands on a lifetime supply of brass for it.
I compare the .300 rcm to the 7mm mag. I know they are not the same caliber but look up the 175gr. 7mm mag. and compare it to a 180gr. .300 rcm they are near identical to each other.
I Love the 25-06 but I understand why it never really took off The 30-06 loaded with 125 grain stones is a better use of components and beats the 117 grain 25-06 all the way to 300 yards which I would think most hunters would stop at because anything further than that is a tricky task at best Love the videos as always
I built a custom rifle in the early 1980’s with a 24” barrel. Nobody sold the ammo. No problem, I handload any way. I bought a 7mag and discovered you need 17gr more powder to get very little improvement in velocity. The 7mag only outshines the 280 is in the heavier 160+ bullets.
I remember this caliber well, Hornady and Ruger went after the 300 wsm,Trashed the 300 wsm said it didn’t feed good, I’ve been shooting the 300 wsm for years never had any kind of issues, Hornady wouldn’t make 300 wsm for years, Hornady is still so butt hurt over this, They only offer 300 wsm in 3 or 4 bullets.
It's not underrated though. Don't get me wrong - My next purchase will most likely be a 6 Creed, to pair a magnum in the future, although for me the 6 Creed would be more match focused, but for Springbok sized game it'd be a great option.
@@marcmoore4115 It’s definitely gaining popularity so people are getting on board. Hopefully more ammunition options will become available. It’s tough to find around here.
Speaking of .25 cal, backing off the "screaming fast" stuff, you have a very capable all-rounder called the .257 Roberts which itself is based on the venerable 7x57 Mauser casing. Why isn't the 6.8 Western going anywhere? It's flanked on both sides with 6.5 caliber stuff which has been all the rage (and there are a ton of them), and 7mm stuff which just got a big kick in the pockets with the new PRC. Good luck making a case for the .277caliber. The .270 Winchester has been solidified many years and will continue, so probably a decent choice is just make the improvement on twist rate like it should have had from the start and try to ride the name and legacy.
So, I've got a question for you. I'm in the early stages of starting to seriously look into my first good bolt action. Trying to decide between buying a factory or building something up. My main issue it trying to pick a good caliber. .308 and 6.5 creed are the obvious picks. I'm intrigued by what I see with 6mm ARC. But I've got a personal range I built where I've got easy space for up to 750 yards. My main interests are more PRS type shooting. Not really interested in hunting. What would you pick if you were to choose a caliber to knock 750-1000 yards easily but able to challenge myself and stretch further with some skill improvements? Also a consideration is the wind. I'm in southwest Oklahoma and today we are having sustained 22-30mph winds. The day I filmed my little Bud Light video it was blowing 30-40mph the whole day. Was worth it for how well that video is doing for my small and growing channel though!! But I'm looking for input from people who have done this longer. The main suggestion I get is .308 because of all the reasons. Longer barrel life, easier to source components to load with, lots of factory choices, etc. But I'm not sure I want to go with something "normal". I like to try new stuff to see what it's like. Main concern will be battling wind and I want to push myself to a mile eventually, but probably not with this first build. Let me know what you think if you get a chance please. Appreciate the videos and look forward to more!!
Many years ago two young Marine Corps snipers were at the air show in California showing their 3 weapons told me the 50 cal they don't use on people mostly engine blocks and equipment to slow down specific transportation
25-06 will most likely be my next project. 👍🏼 I can only speak for myself but the lack. Of proven longevity and the cost of ammunition gives me pause to jump on the bandwagon regarding “hot new” calibers.
There are so many of us that realistically rarely shoot more than 100 yards when hunting. In my personal case 95% of all of the shots I've taken on game were under 100 yards, the exception being shots taken on sheep and maybe one or two whitetail deer. The old standbys like the .270, .30-06, .308, 7mm-08 and .243 have served me very well. I do however enjoy shooting long range just for the sake of doing it and I have two 6mm Creedmoor rifles for that purpose. My Ruger Precision rifle in 6mm Creedmoor weighs in at 15 lbs. with the scope attached and I would never consider it for hunting. My ideal hunting rifle/scope setup weighs less than 6.5 lbs. and I'm seriously considering the Howa Super Lite at 4.2lbs. without a scope.
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I started using a 25-06 in 1993. Great caliber for whitetail. I bought my son one. Minimal recoil. Sight in 2.5 inches high at 100 and your MPBR is about 300 yards.
25-06 is a sleeper especially if you reload! Bullet weights from 75gr to 135gr. With the standard 10tw and an 87gr Bullet you can extend that mpbr out to 400yds on a 4" target an have a coyote killing lazer. Step up to a 7.5tw and the 130gr bullets and you have a mile target rifle for banging steel or a 800yd pronghorn/whitetail load.
Disadvantage is that a 25-06 is very overbore and really shines with a 26" or longer barrel and slow burning magnum powders that are hard to find lately.
@@kirkmartin2223 I've got a tikka t3x lite stainless with a 22 in barrel in 25-06. 100grn speer btsp at 3234fps and 80grn mono's at 3500fps using AR2209 (H4350).
@@bruce6099 I have a Howa with a 26" preferred barrel blanks barrel. 75gr vmax @ 3675fps. MPBR is 410yds on a 4" target and it will cut a coyote almost in half lol. It will run them up to 3735fps @40°f but that's on the extreme upper end bordering disaster. Shoots factory Remington 120gr coreloks sub 3/4". Been thinking about a tikka build with a switch barrel setup for a 1:10tw and a 1:7.5tw. 10tw with a #2 sporter and the 7.5tw with a medium Palma. If I bought 2 more barrels they'd be 25-06AI or 25 Sherman for more speed.
@Kirk Martin The one thing that would worry me about building a fast twist on a tikka is mag length for the longer projectiles. That wouldn't be a problem if you used an ai mag system, though. If i ever burn the barrel out on this tikka, I'll probably go to a 24-inch barrel just so i dont have to push the loads so hard to get the velocity.
The good thing about took a is they offer one actin length. The bolt stop and bolt can be special ordered for different calibers.
Oregon mountain does a lot of work on them and have barrel blanks to fit. If the bit face hasn't been altered, then it is a simple screw in barrel change.
For how great of a mid to low end of big game the 7mm .08 should be way more popular
Pretty sure it’s the 7th best selling hunting cartridge as of a year or so ago. It’s more popular than most people think but it doesn’t seem to get much press
I have hunted with 7mm-08 for years
Yes I tried others" I have always came back to the 7mm-08, it's all I hunt with now.
It would be more popular if manufacturers made less expensive AR10 barrels for it. That’s one of the reasons 6.5 creedmoor blew up.
I definitely think 300 and 338 RCM deserved a lot more love than they ever got, especially 338 RCM.
I can distinctly recall a few months ago everyone losing their minds over Weatherby's new 338 RPM, particularly for its ability to be used in a lighter/handier rifle than the 338 Win Mag. Well, 338 RCM was specifically designed to recreate the 338 WM in a 20in short action (instead of a 24in long action), which means it did literally everything people love about 338 RPM over a decade earlier.
300 RCM, on the other hand, was probably never going to take off because it doesn't matter that, other than being fractionally lower performance, it was better than 300 WSM in every way; all anyone cared about is that it had fractionally lower performance than 300 WSM (although I well admit that being a Ruger round didn't help).
.280AI is an efficient, effective, and recoil very tolerant. Definitely a great cartridge!
I think the 35 whelen, 9.3x62, 8x57, are way underrated. They can shoot moderately long distances and have a lot of energy without a lot of recoil.
9,3x62 is not under rated in Europe though, it's very common.
@@CandidZulu in Europe yeah. But in the US it's criminally underrated. Same with the 9.3x74r
I personally wish we had more american made firearms in 9.3x64 Brenneke. Such an underrated cartridge.
I love my 25-06 and I appreciate newer calibers as well. But i think something people kinda are missing is the 300 win mag is just a machine. In modern rifles the kick is not bad and it has pretty decent bullet drop and you have a little more range to work with compared to some of the lighter newer calibers. It's just my personal opinion some of these newer calibers are trying to keep up with the 300 but they can't. To put it into truck terms people are buying a f250 and putting helper bags on it when they just could have bought an f350.
While I completely agree with a LOT of your assessments... please keep in mind we don't all live where things like a 280 AI or a 300RCM are necessary. Here in NewEngland, a 308 or a 25-06( varmints to deer) or a 350 legend or any of the traditionally accepted 200 yard to 275 yard cartridges are perfect. A 30-30 works... a 45-70 works ... but we don't need those 400 to 600 yard rigs here, we seldom (sometimes we do, but not often) need or want such long reach. Virtually all of our deer hunting is done off-hand...no sticks or trees or other rests due to the fleeting moments we get to see-aim-fire. So While your channel, opinion and experience is valid, there are other points of view and equally valid positions. Just remember the rest of us, too.
I would call the 300rcm a blend of the 308 and 300wsm
My winchester model 70 featherweight has CRf in300 wsm it feeds into the chamber as smoothly as any gun that i have ever cycled.
I think a lot of people are afraid to get stuck with a rifle that has a "new and improved" cartridge they can't now, and eventually never, find ammo for, and if they can find it, it is an insane price.
Enter 6.5 CM
@@HA51971 Right, but compared to any cartridge that is actually popular, the 6.5CM isn't all that popular or have that many rifles chambered in it. Plus, it benefits from basically existing in other forms for 100+ years.
owners of the old 257 roberts that are still around are feeling seen right now ;)
@@D_Boone not sure where you got the idea that 6.5 creedmoor isn't popular? backfire had a article that said 6.5 creedmoor was #3 best selling cartridge only being beaten by 22lr and 223 by volume.
I'm glad you mentioned the 300 wsm. It is like all of the youtubers are trying to kill the wsm series of cartridges. The 7mm WSM is a fantastic round.The 6.8 western is almost a WSM case.
The 6.8 western really peaks my interest
I have a .300 WSM it’s a great big game cartridge
The 7mm WSM has dropped every animal (Whitetail, Red Deer, Bear) with authority. Never had a feed issue in the Win Model 70 either.
My 6mm Creedmoor is my most accurate rifle. I shoot 5 inch group’s regularly at 1000 yards. And my two 6.8 Westerns shoot well at 1000 yards with any bullet. Love these guns. Very happy to have them in my collection.
I have a 300 RCM and it's extremely hard to find ammo and when you do you'll pay an arm and leg for it. I just started reloading for it last November. Great video
I like my 6.5 CM, but I really love my 7X57 Mauser, it's just plain fun to shoot. Makes stuff take dirt naps like no-ones business.
Milsurp is special for me too. I love browsing pawn shops. What is your favorite milsurp gun / round?
@@bensears7499 I do have a love affair for the 7X57, I reload it with copper pills, load it with enough speed to get them to open in the ranges I deal with and it's easy on my worn out shoulders, just a gentle push. if I ever the get the chance to hunt something bigger than pigs or deer, I can load it up with enough horsepower to get the job done!
Finally someone else agrees! The 6.5 is a decent cartridge but it lacks velocity. The 6 creed/6mm remington both do about the same on game, but going much faster and flatter. If you want a short action that hits like a truck, go 308 or even 300wsm.
You know it's bad when Ruger doesn't even make a rifle chambered in 300RCM. After looking at this, it's a real shame you can't get it anymore. I think IF Hornady could reintroduce this under their name it would do much better.
Rebrand it as 300 Compact Magnum.
300 HCM
Ruger makes several rifles in 300 rcm
Its obvious 300 creedmoor
After thought, the 6c would have made a great military round.
I have taken elk, pronghorn, Mule deer, whitetail, and moose with a 30/06. I could have used a 30/30 in all cases with success.
The 300 RCM has always been my pick for the best big game hunting cartridge since it was introduced. I think if more gun manufacturers chambered for it and more ammo companies beside hornady loaded ammo it would be more popular. Epically since it was designed for short barrels which is in favor today with suppressors. I also have built a 11.3 300 Ham'r so I can hunt suppressed and it's great in a tree stand as well.
sounds like 6.8 western not supported by manufacturers
I didn’t know Ruger had a ammo company, I remember Hornady and Rugers sales pitch on this caliber, Is faster and better than the 300 wsm they lost.
@Tammy Fuller typo hornady loaded the ammo. The sales pitch was not thay it was faster than the wsm it has slightly less case volume so that's wrong. It was that it was designed for short action rifles and designed for short 20 inch barrels also while giving performance greater than 30-06 and coming close to wsm in a 20 inch barrel. It also has no rebated rim so feeds better as well. Design wise it IS a better cartridge I think. The wsm was loaded by all the different ammo manufacturers which is the main reason why it was successful I think. I wouldn't mind a 7mm RCM as well, would be perfect for hunting and long range shooting.
I wish 7mm08 was more popular. You can use it for basically anything with minimal recoil. Where I am I haven’t been able to find ammo for years now in 7mm08.
Hello, I own the .300 rcm in the guide gun platform. When I bought my rifle I bought 6 or 7 cases of ammunition, all different styles all hornady made. Every load shot inside an inch at 100 yards, the heavier bullets and copper bullets did better. I have not ever been disappointed with my rifle or ammunition. I do have dies and and what not, but until I run out of factory ammunition, I have no need to reload, and I don't shoot it that much. Thanks for your videos!!!!
6.8 western was like metric system in USA, it was hyped up, the day came it launched, then it disappeared. No one promotes it at all now. Haven’t seen a rifle or ammo in long time. Crazy for how good it is ballistically.
2 things, for a time I hunted with a 25-06. It killed way above its pay grade! The word authority comes to mind when it comes to how it takes down deer and hogs. One of the biggest blunders in ammunition history is the 30 Remington AR. If this cartridge would’ve caught on there would be no 6.5 Grendel or 6ARC or any of these cartridges that have been trying to replace the 5.56, with the exception of the 277 fury. The 30 RAR was truly the cartridge that would make the AR-15 platform a venerable big game platform.
Remington blew all their credibility on the debacle of releasing the 6.8 spc
@@danielrobey1759 don't forget the Remington 260 debacle. 😢
I know why everybody wants more speed,and that speed is sexy.But that being said,speed is not always desirable.Here in the southeast,where shots at 300 yards is pretty rare,and the deer are smaller,speed often destroys more meat than desirable.I have shot many deer with 308,30/06,300 win mag and 257 Roberts.I actually prefer the 257,because it's going slower,uses lighter bullets and destroys less meat if you have to take a less than perfect shot broadside.Thus I think the 6.5 cm is better than the 6 cm.Im not one to always jump on the newest bandwagon,but I do think the 6.5 cm fits a perfect niche.Just my thoughts.
.30-30?
Love the 25-06. When the cartridges hit the shelf they go quick. Light bullet screaming fast.
I hunt with a great .25 Caliber -.257 Roberts Ackley Improved. Pretty equal with .25-06 performance but with way less powder. .257 Roberts A.I. is more efficient than the .25-06. My rifle has a 1-8” twist and shoots the 110 grain and up bullets very well. Many Gun writers say the .257 Roberts A.I. is one of Ackley’s best wildcats. My dad hunted with an 18” barreled 25-06 A.I. and it was awesome. 25-06 velocities our if a very short, handy rifle.
Just by the looks the the bullet chart you’ve provided, 7 mag still reigns supreme.
*.264 win mag reigns Supreme, but nobody knows it. 😅
I think going light for caliber is overlooked as an option without requiring a new rifle. A 95 grain 6.5CM is flying 3100 feet/sec. So thats as fast as a 243 Winchester, for example but generally carrying a little more mass. And a 110 grain 308 is screamimg at 3300 feet/sec. Then both those calibers have tons of other load offerings. Just need to resight in for your particular hunt.
If you dally in the world of 25 cals for long you will fall in LOVE. Been shooting 257 Roberts for my whole life and I have never found a more pleasant cartridge to put a whitetail on the ground with.
Great review!
Makes me wonder: Is .280 AI vs 6.8 Western a useful comparison? Is one generally better than the other in terms of broad application?
I have two 280 Remingtons and my first 280AI in process. Both of these should be a LOT more popular
Love my 280 rem rifle. Should be alot more popular
257 weatherby is the most underrated hunting caliber for deer and antelope sized game.
YES
Not as underrated as the .257 Roberts.
@Lifted_Above 257 Roberts doesn't have nearly the same performance as the 257 weatherby.
@@alexheilman1035 I admit, it probably wouldn't topple a dinosaur at the same ranges.
It isn’t underrated, it’s ignored because it’s a weatherby and there’s a higher barrier to owning one.
Kinda surprised the 7wsm wasn’t mentioned. Love the 7mm in short action
I'm very glad that they're making fast twist rate rifles for .270 Winchester. I don't really care about the 6.8 Western, but I would love to have high-BC, heavy bullets available for my .270 when I eventually get it rebarreled.
I'm hoping Browning and Winchester will eventually manufacture ammo with heavier bullets!
With the 6.5 choices on the left, and the 7mm choices on the right, this is why 6.8 is going to be overlooked.
in canada there are lots of rifles chambered in 6.8 western its the ammunition that is impossible to find
6.8 Western really is an ideal cartridge for those of us who shoot at surpressed and prefer less wind drift
6.8 is a great cartridge...another one is the 280 Ackley Improved...
We have both 7mm wsm and 300 and no issues with feeding. Most of the time it’s the operator.
funny enough, my gun safe is dominated by 6mm Creedmoor and 6.8 Western. The good news is my ammo safe and loading bench are stuffed full of those calibers goodies. my trusted 270 has it's place in the mix, but the other two dominate.
I actually agree with you on all of those cartridges. I absolutely love my 25-06. It’s a great round for women and kids to hunt with. We have taken everything from elk to prairie dogs with it. Low recoil, flat trajectory, and fairly decent range of bullet weights. As long as it has 1:10 twist you can do a lot of things with the 25-06. I’ve actually owned two of them and both were extremely accurate and would shoot .25 MOA consistently.
Love the 6.8 Western! Hope more manufacturers get behind it one of these days 🤞🏻
I’m glad you acknowledged this cartridge(300RCM).
I have one with a 22” barrel and enough ammo for a lifetime of hunting. If I can keep my powder dry.
Jim, I watched this Hornady podcast and had the exact same thought about 300RCM. I've never had an issue feeding cartridges in my Browning A-bolt 300WSM. Magazines for the X-bolt seemed sketchy, so that might be the reason people are having feeding issues--just a thought. 30TC is the parent case for the Creedmoors, so it seems strange that 30TC has all but been abandoned.
My Xbolt in 300 wsm has never had any feeding issues
Never had feeding issues with the Tikka 270wsm but it’s a single stack
No feeding issues for my Browning Abolt II in 300 wsm. With either factory or reloaded ammo.
Do you worry about ammo availability in the future for the 6.8 western?
Great video. I really like my 6.8 Western. Up in northern Utah I see 6.8's on the shelf pretty regularly. Sportsman's has quite a few (40'sh) variations of it now on their site. I hope it doesn't die, but I agree with your assertion. They are BLOWING the marketing campaign tremendously!
How’s the ammo situation? That’ll be a huge factor
@@danielrobey1759 available, but not cheap. Hopefully someone else makes it soon. I heard rumors of Federal, but can't confirm 🤷
I love my 6.8 western ammo is plenty in my local sporting shop probably the best gun I have owned
I see 162gr Copper extreme and 170gr Ballistic Silvertip on the shelves around me both for ~$45 per box. I just got my reloader set up and spun up a ladder with a 145 ELD-X in front of Magpro. Now I just need some time at the range.
6.5x55SE. Its like a 6.5 creedmore, but with better performance all while designed in 1891. Takes anything but the largest of game (large canadian/alaskan moose) and used to win medals in both precision- and speed shooting all through scandinavia.
Exactly!!!
And the 243 Winchester has been doing the 6mm CM thing since 1955.
Nothing's new
@@1LTNOE 6 cm is like the 6.8 western its just a 243 essentially with twist for heavier bullets
Yep, I been shooting one since 1989. I even took a couple of bull elk with mine. I really like 120 gr Barnes X bullets in it. Plenty flat shooting for as far as you should ever shoot at living game. Plenty of bullet weight for most of the game that is hunted. For my deer hunting (White Tails) I shoot a 120 gr Remington 6.5 bullet, I bought them in bulk back in 1990 they had boxes of 5000 so I bought two. Shoots well and works even better on the White Tails and the occasional hogs I get to shoot when I am in TX.
@@bobtitle2334 6cm is like a 6m remington then that already has the higher speed and 1 in 9 default twist
@@danielrouw2593 Sure it could be a solid choice if you really want that extra performance. Especially if you dont reload. Personally i would look into something like a 6.5prc or 6.5-06 if you want that class of performance. Ackley himself mentioned that the 6.5x55 was already an efficient design and there were many other cartridges far more deserving of being improved. Really goes to show the excellence of the cartridge design.
Definitely a great list that you made there. It is sad to see the 300 RCM all but disappear 🫥. Sadly with Winchester and Browning horrible marketing the same might be true of the 6.8 Western. My youngest brother got one in the Browning XBolt Hell Canyon Long Range. Sadly it has been difficult here in the east to find ammo unless it’s the Power Point and maybe Copper Impact. He tried both and they shot terrible. It’s been impossible to find heavy for caliber .277 bullets so he found a good load for the Hornady ELDX 145s essentially making a .270 WSM. Speaking of WSM I do like my 300 WSM.
I want to build a 7mm rifle someday to fit in between my 270 Win and 300 WSM, the 280 AI and 7 PRC.
As for the 6mm CM, my Dad has a .243 Win so I wouldn’t mind a different 6mm so the 6mm CM fits the bill.
The 25-06 is sweet from what I’ve heard and I wouldn’t mind one, but I am leaning toward the 257 Weatherby Mag aka the Death Ray.
You may not see any on the shelves, but Cabela's has 8 different models of the 6.8 Western in stock to ship to your nearest store.
I chose the 6 creedmore over the 6.5c with a heavy barrel. It consistantly hits a coyote target at 800 yards. I agree that the 25/06 is a great hunting round but has been limited on the choice of bullets. It has never been considered a compeition round.
I wish there were 125-135gr hunting rounds available. That'd make the .25 caliber much more intriguing to me. I think the heaviest currently is 120gr - at least from the major manufacturers anyway.
I just bought an x-bolt in 6.8 western and what I'm noticing in my area (eastern Wyoming) is that the rifles are readily available almost everywhere I go, but NOT the ammo. I wasn't planning on handloading right away, but I might have to. 😖
Seems like a good cartridge for Wyoming. I am leaning toward a .270 for cartridge availability. Either an old gun or a new build with 1:8 twist.
6.5 CM, 280 rem, 300 wsm are my favs. All 3 have done well for me. And never have had feeding issues in my Browning Abolt II in 300 wsm I bought in 2003.
You gotta mess up pretty bad to miss with a 6.5 Creedmoor especially with the 120's - 129/130's at 400. Everyone thinks that you need to shoot 140's and up in the 6.5 Cm, not so. Load up some 120's of your choice and plant those whitetails at 400 like they are at 100. I like the 300RCM and the 270WSM but the 7mmPRC IMHO is going to put them on the out to pasture and without support don't even consider the 6.8 Western.
I have to disagree with you on the 6.8 Western and the 6mm Creedmoor being better than the 270 WSM or 270 Win, or the 6.5 Creedmoor.. I do like the old timer 25-06. It is a good cartridge. As for me, I'm a fan of 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, 270 Win, 308 Win, 7mm-08. I also like the 6.5x55, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor. The little 243 has its place as well. Especially for women and younger kids learning to shoot and hunt. Be safe and good hunting.
So bummed about the 6.8 western. I love mine. I have enough loaded cartridges, to keep me busy with it for a while and then enough bullets, primers and powder to probably burn out the barrel. If someone would pump out some brass, I'ld be set.
I've always been a huge Quarter Bore fan and currently own a 700 Long Range 25-06 and 70 Super Shadow 25 WSSM with plans to build a custom 1:8 28" rifle in either 25-06 AI or 257 Blackbird.
The down side to 25-06 is that it really shines with a 26" barrel do to its inherently "overbore" nature which was stated when Remington initially adopted it as a commercial cartridge. I was also hoping that 6.8 Western would have gotten more traction but I do agree that it is lacking in case capacity. I'm curious to see how a .277-7 PRC performs.
I think the 6.8 western lost out because nobody else wanted to load for it. As far as I know only Winchester loads 6.8, not federal, hornady, nosler, remington. I also heard people saying when it came out that, it was just a 270 WSM with a faster twist barrel (I understand twist is not the only thing that changed). Interesting cartridge but it was like a flash in the pan, everybody was talking about it until two weeks later and it was on to the next thing.
Big fan of the 300 RCM. I've had to start reloading due to factory ammo being scarce.
I don’t blame Browning for starting to barrel fast twist rifles. It’s only a matter of time until all manufacturers get on board. Ammo availability makes it an interesting proposition for me… I would buy a fast twist .270 rifle over a 6.8 Western simply because of ammo availability in my area… Also, maybe they’ve conceded, given up, that the 6.8 will compete with the PRCs or Creeds… They should’ve named it the 6.8 PRC or .270 Creedmore, prolly would’ve helped.
I love my 25-06 i put a Boyd at one thumb hole stock on it and threaded the barrel. Now it's time to call some coyotes in.
I really want the 6.8 western take off!!!! I really like it. Haven't been able to shoot it much but the few rounds I've found have been pretty good
I've had many 270 win rifles and I really like it and if I had one now I wouldn't change but now that I don't have a 270 win I'm definitely interested in the 6.8 western
I've been thinking about building a 6mm creedmoor but can't decide if I should go bolt action or AR style. That could make for a pretty cool video... What calibers function better in each for hunting purpose! Another video idea is what calibers work better suppressed and in a bolt action or AR style!
My bro have taken moose and grizzly with the 6.5 creed. The 6mm creed makes a big hole on caribou with the 103 eldx. 25-06 I have and I have seen ppl kill grizzly and moose with 25-06.
Ive personally have shot elk with my 6.5 and havnt had to track any of them. I will say tho that if you use 120 grain bullets instead of 143 grain, the wound cavity isn't the best even with deer. However if you use the 143 grain, you shouldnt have any issues
@Darian Gilman hard to find ammo in alaska so I have to shoot any ammo I find with the 6.5prc.but when I hit them even at distance they drop right on the spot.if I chest shoot caribou with it,it makes a hole so I started neck shooting them and havet had any problems with holes or blood shot meat. It hits them so hard it jells the lungs and heart even when I neck shoot them
Would say prefer bigger bullet for big bears
I would agree with your take on the 25-06. I would add the 35 whelen or the 358 win. 35 whelen limits the need for magnum calibers in any cases. You can hunt anything in north america from probably 250 yards in. There are more powerful calibers but sometimes (often forgotten) enough is enough.
I've got an older 257 Weatherby and it shoots very flat and hits them like lightning 🌩. It has never let me down, not once.
I have the 30/06, 7mm08, 270, 25/06 and a 243 for meat getters. If I had to do a 24 cal again I would get the 6mm Rem with a 1-8 twist instead of the 243. I'm building a 260AI for my 6.5mm itch.
I know that they aren't very popular, but at some point I'm going to get rifles in .338 Federal, .300 RCM and a .338 RCM. Even if it means having the rifles I have re-barreled into these cartridges. These just seem like fun, efficient and effective cartridges as long as you aren't shooting ridges out west.
I live out west, and the .300 rcm is a great western ridge rifle as is the .338 rcm, or if you prefer, a bean field rifle back east. The .300 rcm has more ass on it than the 30-06.
The 7mm mag. Pushing a 175gr. and .300 rcm pushing a 180gr. are damn near identical in every way except one is a long action, the other short action.
@@bkb5668 thanks for the information, I didn't know it was capable of that range.
Got my 6.8 western hells canyon speed with a dead air sandman s can optics Burris eliminator iv
People always say they wish the 6.8 western was popular and if it was that they’d own one. Just buy it! If everyone who said that bought one it would be popular.
I don’t know maybe it’s just me but I think the 270 Winchester with a fast twist barrel makes way more sense than a 6.8 western ever did 🤷🏻♂️ heavy bullets in a 270 Winchester make it the ultimate elk rifle in my opinion!
I have a 2 browning a bolts in 300 wsm and it doesn’t have any feeding issues! I definitely wouldn’t trade it for the rcm
Spot on. My 300 wsm never has had feeding issues either. Who started spreading that BS. I have had my Abolt since 2003. No issues at all
I love my 6 creedmoor! Its my go to rifle for coyotes which is my main game most of the year. the 87 grn Vmax hammers them and gives me more wind deflection than the 58 grns. I've taken several shots at coyotes past 350 yards and not a one has budged after impact. One Cartridge that I am not sure if Backfire has gone over is the 6mmARC. That is my AR15 platform and while I am still developing a good load for it ,the accuracy has been sub MOA form all factory offerings. I am exited to see how my handloaded 87 grn Vmaxs do out of it on coyotes but the accuracy is 3/4 MOA or better.
Jim, could you PLEASE get a new hunting rifle in 7mm-08 or borrow one and give us an in depth review please? Or even a new video with ammo choices for it. Thanks again, God bless
2 of my favorite cartridges are 25-06 6.5x55 Swedish great video
I love the 280 A.I. great round can't wait for hunting season.
Big fan of 6.8 western poor timing to release mid pandemic and right before the 7 prc. It is an amazing cartridge but I don't know if I'll get it just due to the chance of it fizzling and me scrambling to get everything I need to reload for a life time.
❤ hope all is well jim love all the backfire content
Just get the 300 WSM way more popular tan a 300RCM (never heard of it) 243 are one of the classic's my next rifle will be a 6mm creed more
The 300 RCM is basically a 30-06 in a short action with a 20" barrel. They should never have called it a magnum as that just makes people either shy away from it or compare it unfairly to the 300WSM and 300WM. I think it is a fine hunting cartridge, but wouldn't buy one unless I knew I could get my hands on a lifetime supply of brass for it.
I compare the .300 rcm to the 7mm mag. I know they are not the same caliber but look up the 175gr. 7mm mag. and compare it to a 180gr. .300 rcm they are near identical to each other.
25-06 rem underrated round that should be more popular! Savage model 10 $600 with a vortex scope.
Have you looked into the 6mm ARC? If not do it!
I Love the 25-06 but I understand why it never really took off
The 30-06 loaded with 125 grain stones is a better use of components and beats the 117 grain 25-06 all the way to 300 yards which I would think most hunters would stop at because anything further than that is a tricky task at best
Love the videos as always
Winchester with the 284 and 6.8w…. I really wish they would have pushed it to the max like Hornady does. Excellent rounds. Poor marketing
I found one and was so glad I bought the rifle and dies to reload for it. It also is so light for having a walnut stock
My 2 favorite cartridges that should be more popular and have factory rifle/ammo support are 280 AI and 7 SAUM
My two favorite as well haha. If I want more rounds in a magazine I’ll go 280 ackley as my all time. If I want a short action I’ll go 7 Saum
I built a custom rifle in the early 1980’s with a 24” barrel. Nobody sold the ammo. No problem, I handload any way. I bought a 7mag and discovered you need 17gr more powder to get very little improvement in velocity. The 7mag only outshines the 280 is in the heavier 160+ bullets.
I remember this caliber well, Hornady and Ruger went after the 300 wsm,Trashed the 300 wsm said it didn’t feed good, I’ve been shooting the 300 wsm for years never had any kind of issues, Hornady wouldn’t make 300 wsm for years, Hornady is still so butt hurt over this, They only offer 300 wsm in 3 or 4 bullets.
Spot on
Agree with everything except the 300 RCM. The WSM is the same thing just better and more popular
Hornady hater! haha
Love your content!
6mm Creedmoor is definitely on my list.
yes but for massively different needs
I'd choose it over the .243 Winchester in that caliber.
It's not underrated though. Don't get me wrong - My next purchase will most likely be a 6 Creed, to pair a magnum in the future, although for me the 6 Creed would be more match focused, but for Springbok sized game it'd be a great option.
@@marcmoore4115 It’s definitely gaining popularity so people are getting on board. Hopefully more ammunition options will become available. It’s tough to find around here.
300 wsm is one of my all time favorites
I just bought a 6.8 western about 4 months ago
I really wanted the 6.8 Western to take off.
Speaking of .25 cal, backing off the "screaming fast" stuff, you have a very capable all-rounder called the .257 Roberts which itself is based on the venerable 7x57 Mauser casing.
Why isn't the 6.8 Western going anywhere? It's flanked on both sides with 6.5 caliber stuff which has been all the rage (and there are a ton of them), and 7mm stuff which just got a big kick in the pockets with the new PRC. Good luck making a case for the .277caliber. The .270 Winchester has been solidified many years and will continue, so probably a decent choice is just make the improvement on twist rate like it should have had from the start and try to ride the name and legacy.
So, I've got a question for you. I'm in the early stages of starting to seriously look into my first good bolt action. Trying to decide between buying a factory or building something up. My main issue it trying to pick a good caliber. .308 and 6.5 creed are the obvious picks. I'm intrigued by what I see with 6mm ARC. But I've got a personal range I built where I've got easy space for up to 750 yards. My main interests are more PRS type shooting. Not really interested in hunting. What would you pick if you were to choose a caliber to knock 750-1000 yards easily but able to challenge myself and stretch further with some skill improvements? Also a consideration is the wind. I'm in southwest Oklahoma and today we are having sustained 22-30mph winds. The day I filmed my little Bud Light video it was blowing 30-40mph the whole day. Was worth it for how well that video is doing for my small and growing channel though!!
But I'm looking for input from people who have done this longer. The main suggestion I get is .308 because of all the reasons. Longer barrel life, easier to source components to load with, lots of factory choices, etc. But I'm not sure I want to go with something "normal". I like to try new stuff to see what it's like. Main concern will be battling wind and I want to push myself to a mile eventually, but probably not with this first build. Let me know what you think if you get a chance please. Appreciate the videos and look forward to more!!
25-06 is an absolute slayer
Many years ago two young Marine Corps snipers were at the air show in California showing their 3 weapons told me the 50 cal they don't use on people mostly engine blocks and equipment to slow down specific transportation
25-06 will most likely be my next project. 👍🏼
I can only speak for myself but the lack. Of proven longevity and the cost of ammunition gives me pause to jump on the bandwagon regarding “hot new” calibers.
I hunt with a 338 RCM and have taken 6 or more moose with it. The RCM cartridges are perhaps the best big game ammo that I've taken game with
Just a thought. Has there ever been a 270 ackley? Wonder how it would compare to the 6.8 western?
25:06 sweet caliber. 👍👍👍👊
300 RCM is good, but I prefer 338 RCM. This is really unique
Looots of great ammo out there. But I think the RCM compares more to the WSM, no?
Awesome video Jim!🤘🏽🤘🏽
How would it compare with the 300 wsm?
I love my 25-06. Mule deer and whitetail destroyer
Here in the Dakotas they are common on the shelves
There are so many of us that realistically rarely shoot more than 100 yards when hunting. In my personal case 95% of all of the shots I've taken on game were under 100 yards, the exception being shots taken on sheep and maybe one or two whitetail deer. The old standbys like the .270, .30-06, .308, 7mm-08 and .243 have served me very well. I do however enjoy shooting long range just for the sake of doing it and I have two 6mm Creedmoor rifles for that purpose. My Ruger Precision rifle in 6mm Creedmoor weighs in at 15 lbs. with the scope attached and I would never consider it for hunting. My ideal hunting rifle/scope setup weighs less than 6.5 lbs. and I'm seriously considering the Howa Super Lite at 4.2lbs. without a scope.