Should Hadsa Have Been Banned? | Mohsin Abbas Haider Faces Casting Couch | Noor On Mahira Khan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- 00:00 Introduction
10:26 Noor Bukhari - Mahira Khan
25:16 Mohsin Abbas Haider
43:48 Robina Khan - Bryan MUA
58:42 Hadsa Banned
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So disappointed that Amna said “choose not to watch” for the victim. It is insensitive. Please stop to think how many people around her would watch the drama and judge her on this, question her again and again. First Amna had issue with no PEMRA rule, then Hassan shows one, then she says I can’t trust that. That’s sad!!
I agree with you , very disappointed with amna’s pov so sad to hear a woman is saying about another woman just give me goosebumps when I think about it 😢didn’t even have the courage to watch hadsa just heard of it and thought not gonna watch it!!! But didn’t expect from amna to say that to the surviver simply ignore and don’t watch it 🤯. I agree with hassan it should have been banned!!!!!
Finally-a split screen! It’s so much better than panning back and forth, back and forth!
Wow i didn’t even notice until u pointed it out and it was so easy on the eyes today.
I didn’t even notice!!!! I love it!
exactly !
I agree with Hassan completely. This is why there is a disclaimer in Hollywood movies that this is fiction and any likeness is purely coincidence. This is a legal requirement.
You cannot just take someone's story and air it with without permission. This is not just coincidence it is painfully similar to victims life.
Not kool guys… Mohsin Abbas’ statement may have been problematic but you both completely took away all sense and validity from your own opinions because you made fun of him. And how were you able to do that? Because you consider Mohsin lesser of a star. If one of the ‘big fish’ made a similar comment, you probably would’ve had the same opinion but on a more serious, more respectful manner. All this from a pair who constantly complain and highlight the issues of Pakistan. Like i said, not kool.
Say it louder
I hope they read these comments, i did a couple comments too in the same manner, highly disappointed.
That's exactly what I said guys. They were belittling him so much.
@doubIeknotAre you one of the ignorant ones that thinks it’s ok for someone to belittle and make fun of someone like they did? 🙄
@@Sophie-zt6qh why not ? That guy is a walking red flag
Hassan is so so right on Hadsa being banned. Aamna sorry but you really disappointed us by your remarks on this issue.
I've suffered from clinical depression. I also have an honours degree in clinical psychology. I am also more or less your quintessential conservative Muslim.
When you're depressed, you have a sick brain. Your brain controls your reasoning and judgment. If you're suicidal, and you try to combat your suicidal ideation by thinking k ye haraam maut hai, the sick part of your brain will convince you that God is forgiving and He will understand. The world is better off without you, your loved ones are better off without you. Every positive thing that you try to think, your sick brain will give a counter argument. Depression is not a joke, it will not be cured magically. You need a strong will, a realization that you're sick, and professional/emotional help to get through it. Despite my circumstances, I could not get professional help. I, by Allah's Grace, survived through sheer will and self awareness. Not everyone can. This is serious and people need to stop underestimating psychological issues.
Thank you for explaining it so nicely! May Allah bless you always
More power to you! Be proud of yourself ❤
Your comment is very pertinent, as you not only speak as a conservative Muslim, but one trained in psychology and one who experienced depression! So my hearty thanks to you and I hope you are on your way to recovery, you are indeed a very strong person!
Mental illness globally is on the increase, and often met with intolerance by people of many other religious convictions, and it’s pushed under the carpet, not spoken about, in some communities the person is confined to the home and ostracised! I hope your input will get those who are somewhat ignorant to open their eyes! it’s very debilitating and it’s horrible to see stats of teenage suicide often from undiagnosed mental illness which could have been treated! 👏🏻👏🏻🌹🌹🌹🥰
Thank you for sharing. You are in a very strong position to talk about depression and I'm sure it will help many.
Thank you for providing such an educated, informative, insightful and much needed response! I hope this comment is pinned so every single person watching is able to access it easily. @Something Haute, please take note.
Amna's argument about Hadsa's ban is weak and insensitive. How can she so easily say that the victim should not watch it. What about her family n friends. Who would stop them from watching and talking about it.
They can change the channel if it bothers them. I'm in America and don't appreciate the Gays being pushed down my throat in commercials TV Movies. Channels that were once Normal aren't anymore. Only watch Pakistan TV series with English Subtitles. People can be different in their own bedrooms, but I don't want to be exposed to that ideology.
@@dianedesjardins1159you are not understanding the context. A rape victim upon watching a visual representation of what they've gone through is far traumatising than coming across LGBTQ content and changing the channel.
@@dianedesjardins1159i’m at loss of words. i’m sorry, but a detailed graphic and accurate representation of a rape incident is triggering for a survivor, who’s story is being shared without her consent, all the details in the drama, are of her life. She was RAPED, She doesn’t want the world to know HOW or the victim doesn’t need to relive that trauma of her being raped infront of her kids. Just like how they showcased it in the drama. And NEVER ever compare your situation with a Rape survivor ffs. How could you even make that comparison, i’m disgusted.🤮
The survivor’s sanity should be priortized than your entertainment.
@@noodle3851 So we share different opinions. I'm 67 years old and can decide myself, what I can watch & no one should dictate that. Again ~ the TV has an on and off switch.
@@dianedesjardins1159Yes, TV does have an on and off button BUT Trauma memory doesn’t. As a psychiatrist, I understand why trauma survivors are being triggered by Hadsa. It’s not as simple as “don’t watch”. The way trauma memories manifest in our brains and bodies is extremely complex, memories are very intrusive (they play over and over, and victims get easily triggered by the slightest stimuli or anything remotely similar), and then there is avoidance (victims actively try to avoid anything that can trigger those memories). I’m sure the victims are trying their best to avoid the aversive stimuli (Hadsa in this case) but the intrusive symptoms can be very severe and at times compel these victims to watch and re-live their trauma. It’s very complex, so please don’t over-simply this and be empathic to those who have experienced this severe trauma.
Aamna saying don’t watch it is the same as saying to the victim not to turn on the news when her story was sensationalized. It’s really tricky to decide whether it’s a fair ban but frankly it’s a risk the producer took!
PEMRA excuse for banning Hadsa actually irked me. ‘Giving off wrong image that Pakistan is an unsafe company for women by showing motorway rape’ but IT IS AN UNSAFE COUNTRY FOR WOMEN and this actually happened as well, much like many countries all over the world such cases take place. If the reason to ban it was just that, shame on PEMRA.
Very true. So many incidents don't even get out because families choose not to report because again due to shame stigma
That’s absurd. I thought ke finally PEMRA ne koi acha decision liya but the sheer ignorance and stupidity of PEMRA remains unmatched.
When it comes to Hadsa, I was very traumatized by the episode of the sexual assault. It took me days to process it. There was no trigger warning and helpline given on the episode. Channels usually takes snippets of episodes and upload it on their channel to get more views. I was very disturbed that Geo took a snippet of the sexual assault part of the episode and uploaded it on their channel. It felt like they were sensationalizing it and wanting to get more views. I'm so speechless that the channel stooped to this level of insensitivity.
I don’t think the victim was watching Hadsa but the fact that Hadsa was airing was triggering for her which is understandable. They didn’t even take permission from her to air the show.
How many recent roadside rapes have been committed with the victims children present to witness the heinous crime? Let’s not generalize by saying it happens a lot. If the real life motorway victim had not personally spoken up about her trauma over this drama airing, I would be against the ban too. Sorry, I can’t argue with a rape survivor over this and tell her it’s not your story stop watching it. I think that’s crass. Production house losing money vs a family dealing with this in real life with minor children who were witnesses of this horrendous crime, I’m on the family’s side! The victim herself sent the complaint letter to Pemra via the lawyers so she took the legal route. I support her 💯 no ifs no buts
exactly. I 100% agree with you. there is no room for debate.
Agreed hundred percent
Agree 💯 no room for argument period!!!!!!
Amna made same comment about Mohsin ABBAs what Ali Zafar said about Meesha Shafi. That I have better taste. And only last week amna said Ali Zafar’s comment was so inappropriate. Really appreciated hassan for saying that amna is getting personal there.
I get your point. But Mohsin thinks hes a gift to the world so he needs taking down a peg or two. Hes sooo 😖
Condemning an inappropriate comment with many condescending and more insulting comments.I don’t expect this from Amna but with time I realize that she if doesn’t like someone she can’t hide her biases and as a critic should work on it😂
@@mskiran36you are so right, he thinks too much of himself.
@@mskiran36100%
I support Aamna completely….people like Mohsin Abbas should be condemned very strongly….Aamna knows so much more about him being in the industry than we know and still she held herself back….love you Aamna ❤❤
Mahira literally made herself so vulnerable by putting her struggles out in the open, only so other people having similar problems wouldn't feel alone or get help or something. She didn't deserve Noor's judgement or her assumption that Mahira's connection to Allah is somehow less than her own. How dare Noor use the word 'revert' as if Mahira has left Islam or something. Its terribly offensive. I wish people would stop judging celebs and cut them some slack onve in a while.
That said, I also found Amna's stereotyping of religious people...off. No human is the same, and that she had to use the 'tableegi' stereotype to make her point is unfortunate.
If Noor judge anyone u couldn't mean to judge a hijab etc verrrry verrrryyyy verrrryyyy disappointed I'm just leaving your show due your words if we don't judge with your appearance u don't need to need ..hr insan ak sa ni hota ha I feel that u judge me or commented on me because I'm person hajibi with DEENI behaviour kind ..sorry to say its my last day with you
Unfortunately Amna does the same as religious people....judging based on ppls appearance etc if religious! The typical Pakistani liberal thought process...
I though we should live on a dictum of Judge not lest ye be judged! its the Almighty who is the main Judge, we are little people and should follow the Hadith 12: part of someone being a good Muslim is to leave that which doesn’t concern him/ her! Live and let live, you do the best to follow your religious path and leave others to follow their own path! There is enough strife in this world with identity politics deliberate hate preaching as in Islamophobia, racism,so be inwardly spiritual and try to be the best compassionate person one can be, and when we leave this earth at least we should aim to leave a legacy of goodness!
No, I support Aamna. Sometimes when we see so much of something we can’t help but form an opinion. We are all humans and unfortunately what Aamna said is 100% true that in this subcontinent religion is used as a tool to cover your crimes on a superficial level.
@@Truxygg that's not what she said though. She specifically mentioned the 'tableegi' person and the hijab wearing woman. As a hijab wearing woman who's pretty moderate in her views, I found the stereotype a bit unpleasant. Though I, in turn, had the right to judge Aamna as being small-minded, unaccepting of other people's choice of attire and needlessly bad-mouthing a community that SHE has decided is wrong, to follow a certain dress code...but I didn't. I'm still here, a loyal supporter of Something Haute, an admirer of all that's good in Aamna (and Hassan) and also not afraid to speak out every time she says something insensitive. I agree that she is human but she is no ordinary human, like you or me. She is a human with a platform that affects and influences thousands of people, and therefore she should be responsible enough to know that her words, no matter how lightly uttered, carry weight and shouldn't go off saying whatever comes into her mind, especially when it's not even true.
I am tableeghi (kind of) but still not judgemental and definitely don’t agree with whatever Noor said. You ended up stereotyping and judging this big community and it’s hurtful for people like me who use hijab alhumdulilah. I believe in all body mind and soul.
The main thing our producers need to learn is consent, yes internationally such content is made but nothing is done without consent.
Choudary sahab and Isani sahiba, I started watching you guys 6 or 8 mths ago (yes I've subscribed :) and have become an ardent follower. Not only do I enjoy the actual drama reviews that you do, the consistent hook for me has been your banter, your personalities and how you make the audience feel like we are having a meet up with friends. It's also SUCH a pleasure to see the close friendship evident in the banter and comfort level between you two. The cherry on top is that you two seem to strike an effortless balance of non-dogmatic observance and broadmindedness, without resorting to virtue signaling. A couple of "normal" people. It is... to quote someone ... ahem... "bewitching". 😊Choudary sahab, I can relate to your distress at the feedback / request you received, and the mentality it represents. That is what prompted me to reach out for the first time. There are plenty of us out here who appreciate the two of you for what you do, and what you represent. You give me hope for Pakistani society. Pakistanis need to see more of you and more content like yours. Keep doing what you do.
Loving this new video format! Great job team Something Haute
Congratulations to mohsin Abbas for the international Randhawa awards..😗😉
Good job on editing thanks for showing Amna and Hassan in one frame. loved every bit of it. Thanks
As much as I detest Mohsin Abbas Haider and his recent comments but two wrongs don’t make a right Hasan & Aamna. Firstly, please get over your colonial hangover Aamna, correcting people’s English, grammar is condescending. English is not your or his first language. Next making a comment about his looks by saying that gay men have better taste is very problematic.
If something is based on someone's life, even if loosely, and it is being made without that person's consent, whether it is in entertainment, art, science, or publication, it is legally prohibited. If that piece has not gone through peer review properly and proper documentation is not done and then it is retracted, this is not being banned it is being retracted. The makers should legally make it up for the person and apologise.
I agree with Hassan on Hadsa drama ban take. We have to take things case by case and cannot blanket statement everything with "things should not be banned". Also, it is not loosely based on the motorway incident, it IS based on that incident, and the drama-making team saying it isn't based on that incident DOES NOT cut it.
💯 agree
@@sabazaidi9022 and PEMRA needS to give a clear statement regarding the ban instead of this whataboutry...
When I went to depression and it was a very very bad one people around me told me to read Quran and namaz and what not, but seriously at that time I didn’t even want to get up from my bed and make Wudu. It took me time to get back up and become normal and connect with Allah. It doesn’t mean I am not close to Allah but at the mental depression stage u just think and think over about past and how things could have to gone bad or what I should have done and u complain to Allah and u cry sayin Allah’s name but it take time to get back to normal
Ek baat kahu bura na maniyega yey mere saath bhi hota hey wudu namaj uss time parneyka maan nehi cahta asal baja keya hey bolu mey yey hum logo kay upar saytan ka asar hey wo cahtey hey hum depressed rahey, tension karey, namaj na parey magar jaab kisi ne uss time apni dil ki khilaf jakey namaj pey khara hota hey uska jit ho jata hey.
I hope you are better now.
Thank you for sharing your experience-it takes guts and strength to talk about these topics. Your post may serve as comfort to others that they aren’t alone.
Wishing you continued health and happiness 🤲🏼
Yes that's exactly true. And taking time to recover health isn't a negation of your faith.
So sorry you had to deal with such ignorance
InShaALLAH Ta'ala Allah Will Help. Allah's Grace and Barakah is unlimited
I would just like to comment on Aamna'a stance that religion is very personal and no one shoulld have any problem if I am following Islam or not. Aamna, individualism is a very western concept. Islam encourages communal thinking. There are ahadeeth saying if you see something wrong being done then stop it or atleast think it is wrong. Amar bil maroof and nahi unil munkir (Enjoining (what is) right and forbidding (what is) evil) are obligatory according to Quran. I didnt listen to Noor but maybe she meant that increasing your spirituality helps fight depression because I think she herself has fought depression at one time. It is our duty as muslims to encourage each other to become better muslims.
Not judging anyone whether they are Muslim or not Muslim is an Islamic concept. But now Muslims are only interested what the other person is doing. Look at yourself in the mirror! The Prophet's Uncle did not convert to Islam and yet he treated him with the utmost respect and love all his life and his Uncle fought for him! Community is wonderful as long as it is tolerant, inclusive and doesn't judge people who are different to you!
you must be aware that all his life the Prophet SAW kept asking his uncle to embrace Islam. Even on his deathbed he did not talk about anything except that he kept insisting to him to recite the kalma because this is the duty of a muslim.
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Amna is biased sometimes specillay if it’s an issue of fashion world ،she supports them without giving logic and she goes against anyone who is not an A lister and bashes them by all means , Hassan follows her to an extent but still tries to put his genuine opinion
am i the only one who died laughing at the mohsin abbass haider roast 😂😂😂 amna and hasan are too good
Enjoyed this Haute Bites too much 😂👌🏼 Specially our Randhawa Brands Winner Mohsin Abbas ki roasting 🤣
Hassan ek ‘Assalamalaikum Mohsin Abbas’ to banta tha end men 🫡😜
This screen is good.
Like seeing Hasan and Amna both in one screen instead cut to one cut to 2nd.
😍
There's so much stigma and misconceptions about mental illness and depression. Mental health is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain and one of the most difficult illnesses to deal with. No one can see the differences and even science has not yet come us with a cure.Yes religion and spirituality and community give you strength to cope with it although they dont cure it. We are too judgemental
Dont agree with you.. Mental illness can be of many reasons..emotionally, phycally and so more. And Religion will cure it 100% if you belive and practice with ur heart…
@@monkmelodies-relaxmusic2339 You’re wrong! You need to educate yourself. If you believe yourself too religious then you’re going against religion on that. Even religion advise to see a Doctor.
@@seeya7610 agreee🙌
@@monkmelodies-relaxmusic2339how can a mental illness be because of physical reasons?
@@sabahatmazhar6056 do you know about post partum depression? You should know that one of the reasons of post partum depression is the physical changes a woman goes through during and after pregnancy. One simple example. It has also been proven that Physical illness increases the risk of developing severe depressive illness. Moreover physical abuse can also lead to depression. I'm so sorry but, it's like suggesting let's say a person with cardiological issues to simply pray, and everything will be alright. Indeed, Allah is always there with you and indeed in his remembrance do hearts find peace, but, it is not just an emotional phase, it is a Disease, which needs treatment. Seeking treatment of illness is again highly encouraged in our religion. I don't know why there's this conflict w us desis about it
I agree with Hassan on banning drama Hadsa as it is very traumatic fr the survivor . From the trailer everyone can see that the drama is based on the unfortunate motor way incident . It’s very obvious and the makers are denying it .
Aamna, thanks for touching on Rubina Ashraf’s comment. Her attitude in Kya Drama hai is condescending and superior/inferior. If you listen carefully to her comments, I’ve noticed that many times, she hasn’t seen the drama completely, but has probably fast forwarded and watched a bit. Not done! Bad!
I find her quite biased
I missed this part .what was rubina ashraf comment? I find all the judges in this show biased
@@SAMINAHASNAIN-ft5vjMarina is pretty good, and she’s much more cultured & respectful in her critiques.
What was the comment? I missed it
@@rrb6438 Rubina referred to an actress (the girl who marries Ayeza’s husband) as “moti” while reviewing the drama Mein.
I’m not watching the drama, but someone commented that she was just repeating the same word Ayeza used in the drama-not sure if that’s accurate, but either way, it was wrong.
These are the “veterans” of the industry, what to learn from them…
I swear this episode was so annoying. Miss Amna is laughing on every issue & judging people's intentions & taunting people a lot. Please sensibly discuss topics without your personal bias, how you used to do. Hasan did better. It felt like a drawing room gheebat session where instead of discussing events, there was more focus on discussing people.
I felt so when they were making fun of mohsin abbas haider.
I'm sorry but I'm ROFLing on your gheebat session comment 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I'm constantly making fun of Mohsin Abbas Hander, I am disappointed too ,
Totally agree , with so much talking about spirituality she said well the gay men has good sense of style they will make you look better .. this is my trigger now why she always supports lgbt
*they were
PLSSS the Mohsin Abbas Haider segment had me screamingggg in laughter
Thanks Amna and Hassan for being so honest. I watched even some old episodes of your show because you guys also talk about and focus on social issues not just drama review. Hadsa should have come with warnings like most tv shows in US and provide helplinenor resources for people who actually have suffered 🙏
You guys are fun to watch! Loved today's episode.
Regarding Hadsa ban- completely agree with Hassan, really empathetic and sensible reasoning.
Always find it ironic that people “preach” Islam (or their version of Islam) using THE most fake platform ever which is any form of social media (insta, fb, tiktok).
In fact one should then question if they are so religious themselves why are they on social media? Inquiring minds want to know!
The point is, we could pick apart and judge people on just about anything. Someone who deems themselves more religious than Noor can question why she’s on social media, just as she gave judgement on Mahira…it’s a pecking order in the race of “who’s more religious”. Doesn’t judgment itself go against the very teachings of Islam? 🤔
By that logic, no religious person should ever appear in public, should they?
I, a hundred percent agree with whatever you said except social media not being an appropriate choice to spread awareness about a religion. The content might be subpar, inauthentic or misleading but there's nothing wrong with using any social media platform to spread the message of Allah or any other religion for that matter.
Geo treading on thin ice with this recent Hadsa controversy, especially after what they had actually intended to be the climax in Terebin. There is a callous attitude there when dealing with subject matter related to r*pe. How can seeking the survivors permission be an oversight? How can they broadcast this at 7 pm without trigger warnings? People approving this need serious training on the subject to be more sensitive and aware.
If he was talking about Surf Tum he had far too much screen time and people hated him and said they skip his scenes. Hes probably bitter people didnt like him.
Nobody has the right to beat anyone up. I can’t believe that this kind of thing is taken as normal in Pakistan.
I must say that your editor is so lazy bone because if we have already requested a number of times that please upload your reference pictures of celebs or models so that we enjoy the content thoroughly 😐
Guys love the split screen. We all get to see both of your expressions and it makes the watch even more interesting and hilarious! keep it up! ♥️♥️
You guys are hilarious 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂. Congratulations Mohsin 🤣. Throughly enjoyed today's episode ❤
Religion and depression are completely seperate things for goodness sake even our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) went through severe anxiety and depression, and at that time his wife got him help, it can be the case that spirituality is a source of comfort for you at a dark time, but that cannot be the case with everyone.
I have been watching something haute since it started . Huge huge huge fan of amna and hassan . They are very close to my heart . I was saddened to see amnas comments on Mohsin haider abbas it was so not dignified and below belt . Nobody is saying he use the right words but the way you reviewed and used some remarks it just gave a bad taste 😢
This Haute Bites made my day!!! You guys are so cute and cheeky! Love it!
Really appreciate @hassan for your point of view on hadsa ban when even some women are against this ban. First time pamera did something good although gave wrong reasons
It was insensitive to make fun of someone achievement in this way
Fun fact:Jumma is also not so good for Mian Nawaz Shareef and his political party
thank you for the amazing work you guys do and for setting up such a great example of responsibly use this kind of space…
I love watching, "Something Haute", because of the way you both discuss the topics, you select!
Love you both ❤
Just a query Aamna baji and hassan bhai can u do haute review like this only in single camera . it is really nice to see both of you all time together. Thank u
Liked this two portions of the screen ! We can see u both simultaneously now 😊❤
"Whoever dies on a Friday, will be safe from the turmoil/ Azaab of the grave". Alhamdullillah to the plane crash victims.
What if a female actor had declared that since she was not willing to satisfy the advances of her director during the shooting of the drama, the director made her look bad.
I don’t think Noor said anything wrong, but I just wish she had privately messaged Mahira her dua and spoke to her directly rather than write a comment underneath a social media post. In essence that sort of advise looses its impact when given publicly in front of everyone - giving everyone the chance to pile in the debate and lose the crux of the message. And also, I do think it invites unnecessary trolling in a already religiously heated environment. And the topic of depression, anxiety, other forms of mental health illnesses, I don’t think our society is willing to understand the complexity of it or accept it more than just being ‘deen ki kami’. Depression is caused by inflammation, it’s an inflammatory condition which is caused by your lifestyle (what you eat and consume), stress, sedentary living, even technology such as phones has been cited to cause people to become more depressed, amongst a myriad of other reasons as well as *being Muslims* , we believe depressive thoughts come from a lack of remembrance of Allah swt, as Allah swt Himself has promised that in the remembrance of Allah swt do hearts find rest. But that’s a completely different topic & one that requires learned people to speak on, not laymen like us!
Well said! Social media is not a platform to give unsolicited advice
16:30 thank you SO MUCH for talking about this guys.
I feel like one of the biggest problems with Islam in Pakistan IS that once a person becomes a namazi and reads a couple of pages from the Quran they feel like they have the right to “guide” other people, which in our culture, translates to deciding the nature of another person’s relationship with Allah.
Hassan I am deeply sorry that you had to hear something like this. I really wish people would learn more and understand that even the Prophet (PBUH) never sought to guide his people like THIS!
You r right. But a fact is a fact no matter who says it , especially from Wuraan.
When u say say something on public platform one should have their fact straight. The comment about salat al jumaa, is none other than “muslim ‘s get together “ isn’t the only purpose but there r so many blessings . They shouldn’t say anything that they know nothing about. And blaming jumaa for bad happenings , not believing in qadr.
As someone who’s gone through depression myself, I can say that it does help when you pray to Allah as Allah himself has said that “Seek help through patience and prayer” and that “Surely by remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest”
And as Muslims, I’m sure everyone of us pray to Allah whenever we go through the slightest of problems in our lives.
Having said that No one has the right to judge others on their relationship with Allah.
If someone ever shares a story of him or her being depressed, the least you can do is pray for them. Give them alot of duas, they will feel alot better with that only instead of giving them your “nuskhas” to get out of it!
Thank you Amna and Hassan specially for discussing the incident of Bryan . Well balanced and responsible discussion 🙏🏻
Sab se ziada depression stars ko glaxy lollywood type pages dety hein
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I agree, sahi mirch masala page hai. Har chees ko without context lagate hai for clout!
I think they are paid (just my personal view)
Noor should better understand that being a Muslim we all have immense faith in Allah and know he can heal our pain..but still there is medical science that exists so depression, anxiety, stress and other mental health problems also exist with our health issues which needs treatment along with Dua
As you are completely right as she is completely right yrrr Allah ke rah mein chl KY to dekho depression b dor hoga sukoon b feel hoga she said nothing rong
@@azanmallik4256 how do u know k vo allah ki rah my nhi hy??????
Thats our pointt!!!!✋
I so so so agree with Amna about her comments on drama “ Haadsa “. Dramas & movies are made on incidents all over the world. So much crime is happening everywhere, Anyone can get triggered by anything. Any drama about any issue or incident should not be banned.
I totally agree with you dear Amna
💯, why can’t people understand that prayer is one way of asking Allah for good health or recovery from an illness, yet it’s Allah who also armed us with a brain to practice medicine, to learn surgical,procedures to formulate pharmaceuticals treatments to alley pain suffering and terrible debilitating diseases which people may face!
This is the essence of the Almighty‘s gift to the Human Beings,we also have the knowledge in veterinary sciences to help other creatures who cannot treat themselves and would otherwise suffer in terrible pain! Isn’t knowing this something which would strengthen our spirituality and our faith? Mahira’s honesty is a humbling , she is at least not sanctimonious !
@@gerryburntwood9617 sooo true and well saidddd🙌bass actually jahalat bohat hy is mulk myn ...uper sai sab fatwa dyny baith jaaty hyn jaisay un sy zyada islam kisi ko nhi ata...prayers for mahira and others suffering from it❤
Rumour has it hassan is still congratulating mohsin abbas haider on his award
What i feel is that Jab drama on air hota hoga tu relatives and family jo bhoolnay lagai hongi woh incident aor apni life mein ab move on ker chuke hongai. But after this drama they might got triggered again. Aor humari society victims ka survivers ko bhoolne kab daiti he aor is drama ne phir se society ko yaad dila diya hoga aor surviver ki family ko disturb kerna shoron ker diya hoga.
The problem is not Hadsa being Made.. The problem is the way Geo promotes it.. They made it too creepy and uncomfortable.. Like they did for Tere bin with stupid headlines for epi 47.. And always doing stupid headlines and clips in their best scenes... Also the introduction of their video showing a girl being harassed.. Geo has no logic 💀
Hello geo ya 7sky entertainment drama ni hai ya drama geo per chalta hai showcase production ka drama 😮
@@chmianumair1082 hadsa is a geo drama.. 😒
Recently, in Mujhy Qubool Nhi, they showed rape between nikkahified couple
@@rabianaseer5087 not new.. 💀
No problem is a drama being made on someone’s tragedy without consent. Shame on makers
Amna, do we have registered and authentic help lines for rape & domestic violence victims in our country? If so, please share their details. It would be a vital information for the wider public.
Absolutely loved the way you two brilliant people totally smashed M.A into smithereens! No exaggeration, entirely within bounds, pure class!
Amna how can be you soo cruel for the sake of these dramas and actors....oh my god.... can't you feel the pain of that woman she is going through ...ahhhh!!!! can't imagine
Islam doesn't teach anyone to point fingers.
Worry about yourself and your grave, please.
If you are REALLY worried and want to help anyone just make Dua for them!!! 💕
Hadsa team should also apologize publicly to motorway victim since the similarity (purposely or not) is too high.
@hassan:
Usually I agree with Amna more, but today I totally agree with each and every word you said about every single topic!
Best discussion 😊 best media portal of Pakistan…. Sarcastic comments on point 👌will done SH 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you so much on Mahira's point, you spoke my heart 👍
My blood was boiling
ٹھنڈ پے گئی ❤️
I agree with Amna that our creators should not make dramas with "the intention of raising awareness" because they just end up trivializing the issues... They just use these issues as hooks to get attention for a couple of episodes and then it's 30 episodes of the same "sass-bahu" and "muhalle-wali" nonsense... We have witnessed it far too many times: a recent example is "mere ban jao" which was apparently based on the issue of revenge porn... but it didn't do anything to provide awareness about the avenues available for the victim, it was just one run-of-the-mill drama which started on that note and went completely astray after a few weeks. "Qissa Meherbano Ka" made a mockery out of the serious issue of marital rape.. And although I really liked watching "Kuch Ankahi" it did nothing to raise awareness regarding the inheritance laws in Pakistan... It did, however, give an example of what financial independence can do for the self-confidence of a woman, I would give it that...
There are only a handful of directors who can handle such issues with the kind of responsibility that is needed...
The thing about Hadsa is, the makers chose a sensitive topic, which was good on their part, yes, such topics should be presented to the society, but they did not treat it with the sensitivity or the responsibility that it required. Seeking permission from the victim was one such step. Nadia Jamil's comment was absolutely right. If the victim in the drama says that she has lost her izzat, then there should have been an immediate dismissive reaction to that, in that very scene, and not at the end of that drama, aka sensitive treatment. The viewers should not feel in that particular scene, that maybe what the victim is feeling is right. And I agree with Hassan, the PEMRA was right to ban the drama, but there reasons were only partially correct.
I agree with Hassan, it was not wrong to ban the hadsa drama. I've not seen it but I can understand the lady's trauma
Aamna Delhi mein bhi last month conjectivirus bohot spread hua tha...mask b jarur lgaye, taaki nose , mouth ke through aapko virus na lag ske aur hand sanitize bhi krte rhiyega...infected bande ke contact mein aane se bchiye. Be careful , take Care you both...Lots Love Hassan and Aamna
I find myself agreeing with Hasan a lot, he’s a lot more balanced and sensible in giving commentary. Whilst I like Aamna and respect to her for having the guts to give her opinions regardless and not sugarcoating and pretending to be something she isn’t, I find myself disagreeing with her a lot and think sometimes her opinions go a bit insensitive (like the comment about Jummah) and it definitely goes against the tide, and I do feel it will eventually antagonise a lot of your audiences especially on topics of religion, and then politics etc. Hasan is much more careful, considerate and reserved in what he says. I think he’s a bit more central in his views in life whereas Aamna is very far left.
Well said
Nothing is wrong with Friday. Believing so is superstition.
I completely get what she means. Its not superstition, its based on facts.
She's talking about her personal experience! Stop invalidating someone's experiences!!
@@safiakhan3336 oh my god. It is so offensive and wrong to assume someones level of faith. Even Allah doesnt give us that right so WHO ARE YOU to pass such a ridiculous statement? Plz educate yourself and get a life.
@@nadia12398 but why doesn't she like a Friday? Things happen on other days too
@@fae7y personal experience does not permit us to make generalised comments.
We will have to make distinction between moral policing and giving advice to someone we care when they are sharing their sorrows or troubles. It’s so hard to be able to choose the right words or reveal the intentions behind what is said or is intended.
Hatsss offf to amna and hassan 🙌well said and what a brilliant conversation on noor bukharis case....NOBODY ..I REPEAT NOBODY HAS RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONES CONNECTION WITH ALLAH..RELIGION IS A PERSONAL MATTER....lastly kudos to mahira for speaking about clinical depression being the biggest superstar...cant thank her enough ..she is literally a ray of hope for millions of us...may allah bless her AMEEN❤
Excellent topics and discussion 👏
@something haute I totally agree with both hasan and amna whole conversation each and every point about Mahira's incident
Specially hasan's putting picture on social media and amna's point "jo log jitny Ziyada apni Zindagi mai fraud hoty hain wo utna hi religion ka libada urh lyty hain" absolutely right.
Loved the whole conversation🙌🏻❤️
Loved the episode ❤❤❤
Please make this split screen your thing for the review as well
I haven’t laughed this much in a while i love you guys for this 😭😭😭🤌🏻
Islam is not personal. Individualism is not in our ethos. Disagreeing with you guys. From India.
I can surely relate to the very first topic in this episode that is depression. My father, my sister and my brother were dealing with clinical depression at one point and before that we have gone through so much tough time, at that time there were so many people in our surroundings who were saying that you people are not close to the Allah that y it is happening to your family. Yess people judge you and its not only for actors and atresses who come on screen it happens to everyone who is going through difficult parts of thier lives.
Really liked split screen Luv to see both of yours expressions simultaneously ❤
Please talk about nominations of LSA. Jo bichar gye has not been nominated.why?
Excuse me Amna, really disappointment how would you normalised gay culture, I saw your program religiously, I always found you so educator, the person knows to talk.
• Islam preaches about balancing deen and duniya. One has physical ailments, we go to doctors and medicinal treatments. Not just pray. Yes, Allah gives health and listens to our wishes but ailments need worldly solutions too. Religion is extremely personal, preaching (tabligh) means to simplify it, the matters addressed in Islam. Not to be a judge.
• It's ironic how celebrities say that public comments are harmful to their mental health but their sensitivity ends with reference to real life victim. To begin with, the drama must have trigger warnings, with the legal precession taken by the anonymous rape survivor, they should apologize and learn from it. Instead of being stubborn and ardent that it will broadcast. I don't agree with Aamna here, the PEMRA ordinance has been studied by me in college. It has its shortcomings but one has to draw a line somewhere which why decrees exist. Even Korean drama makers apologized be it after the Penthouse S3 or the Devil Judge. Mature up!!
• Mohsin's recent project is Sirf Tum, have to agree it was a pathetic execution but on the flip side I liked his performance better.
Mohsin Haider isn’t an actor I have any regard for as he is somewhat arrogant beats his own drums! His character in Sirf Tum as Humza was stress inducing,and I didn’t bother to watch it, as it was that of a violent manipulative abuser, who didn’t respect nor spare his parents, grandmother nor the wife of his cousin! Totally unpalatable character, and I’m not sure if the director of this drama was gay or not, which is irrelevant!😳, but that comment of his , attacking Gay directors is hate preaching! In your country and elsewhere gay people face such hatred, and are often assaulted, so his comment can be seen as provoking more hatred towards a tiny minority who has not done anything to him! Sadly I find his comment reprehensible!
I think Aamna is being unnecessarily mean to Mohsin's status. I don't know but I think she has some issues with this guy. The choice of words seems fine. GAY likhna Zaruri tha because he felt the need to mention. If any female actress uploads the same status, she would hail that, oh wow, she speaks out, that's a need of time to speak for yourself blah blah. At one point, you’re calling out Rubina Ashraf for being insensitive; on the other hand, you’re doing the same.
We are living in such a complex world where people want freedom of speech on their terms only.
You’re wrong sir, amna is right. He used someones whatever sexual orientation to make him look bechara.
U completely missed the point miss who ever she said he made it seem like as if every gay man is like that
You guys were kind condescending towards mohsin Abbas Haider
That guy is an abuser. He deserves this kind of treatment lol
@@asmaabid8647 double standards in being judgmental is also something we all need to work on
so disappointed in today's episode.i respect amna & hassan but supporting gay and make fun of someone is not right..Its mohsin abbas haider's right to say whatever he wants to say . (I'm not a fan of mohsin abbas haider).
Hassan and Amna you guys are toooo funny 😂 loved loved your sarcastic comments in regards to Randhawa brand awards 😂😂😂
I am sorry but if any religious scholar said the same thing then it's ok. If she said the same thing is not a big deal.
These are social media platforms and if Mahira is allowed to say everything then why not other people.
Secondly yes no one knows how much someone is close to Allah.
Exactly 💯. And what's wrong in suggesting that? For physical ailments too we consult the doctor and pray like crazy.....tab to theek hota hai
Hasan, you didn't have to mock the guy by repeating the phrase "award by an international brand in the USA" fifty thousand times. Maybe the guy did win something. The undertones of sarcasm and incredulity were quite obvious, and honestly reflect poorly on you as an individual.
I'm thirty minutes into the program and you guys have already mocked two people over their inability to write in good English. Please get over your gora complex. It's cringeworthy and makes you appear small.
Maybe you haven't heard this but that guy is a very disgusting person who beat his ex wife up. Frankly speaking, he deserves the mockery
@@asmaabid8647 what are your thoughts on cancel culture?
Hadsa being banned is right please let’s stand together with atleast one victim.
It should not have made in the first place and secondly it should have banned after the first episode.
Pls let’s stand with one victim
It was a very healthy debate guys on the hadsa issue.
I agree with both of you sort of.
& I don't think it deserved to be banned.
Love the split screen!
I’m glad it is banned . I went through a kind of similar trauma years age but these kind of dramas trigger those horrible memories that I want to forget ?