They did that in Arkhamverse too. After Joker died in Arkham City, Gordon and Batman instantly agreed upon to cremate Joker's corpse to make sure he doesn’t come back in some way.
The main reason Batman never killed Joker or allowed anyone else to was because Joker represented the worst of Gotham. Batman was always scared that with Jokers death, Gotham would throw up something worse than the Joker, something Batman wouldn't be able to stop.
That isn't the reason why, if you could kill the joker you could kill anyone. If batman believes he is justified in taking human life he could rightly say anyone who crosses a certain line has to suffer the same consequences. Inevitably he kill another "joker" who pushes the line, and then another, until he starts killing people who are close to breaching that line, and then anyone who gets him angry ultimately becoming a real vigilante. He wouldn't be a Superhero anymore he would just be some criminal who killed people who displeased him, and carried his own personal vengeance out
@@jw8219 Cool paragraph there. But that's not at all what I'm saying here. If Gordon shot and killed Joker, Batman would be angry for the first month. But he would get over it because the Joker isn't running around committing mass murder every Friday night
@@jw8219 dude I'm literally paraphrasing what the Dark Knight himself says in Synders run. It was either Death of the Family or Endgame but he said he was scared of who would come next if Joker died.
@@jw8219 also Batman isn't a superhero, dudes got no powers (even if he is recognised as a metahuman). He's definitely a vigilante, just an accepted one. And the whole point of him becoming Batman was because of vengeance, it's a big theme in his arc. And you can't exactly put a maniac like the Joker who has hurt multiple people in Batmans life and killed thousands of others in the same category as everyone else. The Joker is a special kind of sick and twisted that is barely rivalled by others.
Couldn't they at least have thrown in a few scenes of random citizens in Gotham either celebrating the Joker's demise with a party and scenes of families who were victimized by the Joker hugging each other and shedding joyful tears over the fact that Joker is gone and they finally get justice? You can't tell me that the people of Gotham wouldn't be throwing a parade over that guy finally getting what he deserved.
@@lonely_warrior No, it's a heavy handed suggestion that Jason crossed a line. In the real world, his trial would end in a not-guilty verdict after his attorney successfully argued a defense of "justifiable homicide." And that's assuming the D.A. didn't drop the charges because, "Your Honor, the State sees no reason to continue this case. I strongly doubt I can find a dozen people to sit on the Jury who will unanimously disagree that the Joker needed killing."
@@Archone666 ok your right, but im curious and here is my question is, how your comment is related to what i said? my coment was about the why is more important to see the reaction of Lex and others than the normal citizen
the one thing that never made sense to me is that no police officer ever killed Joker with the amount of people he’s killed i’d expect someone to put a bullet in his skull at some point
@@deathking1019 I thought about it too, why doesn't a police offficer kill the joker and after internet searching it said it was because a lot of gotham PD is corrupt so it would benefit them
I think it’s more of Barbara’s sadness/tears being for Jason’s choice and the knowledge that the one who crippled her is dead. For Dick, he’s upset that Jason was the Red Hood, and he killed Joker, which goes against Batman. Lex doesn’t care. And Harleen because Joker is dead and she loved himz
I like how in this ending, everyone is sad that Jason broke his promise to Bruce and that he’ll kill again, but it’s better than him letting Joker live and then being out to get Jason, while Jason is on the run from the police and the Batfamily. Gotham is really messed up.
Not really Gotham is practically cursed due it ancient history it has , a new villain would simply take joker place it like cutting the head off the hydra
It’s not better. It sets a dangerous standard that criminals are up for getting killed. How many is too many crimes now? Who decides who does or who gets help? When you cross that line, it only invites criminals to either grow more vicious, get better at hiding, or people who need help being afraid to find it because they could be killed.
@@Clorgisclorg Actually fear of being murdered by unstopable vigilante is more probable to discourage criminals. After all only those few total maniacs like Joker want to be killed
People are wondering why she is sad about the Joker's death she's not, she's crying for Jason because he broke Bruce's promise and now he's seen as a vigilante but Jason made the right decision even though blinded by rage. Jason will keep killing because he isn't Batman he never was.
That's the thing. Jason MIGHT stop at Joker. It is an unknown because he knows now what his brain was doing and can get help now that his abuser is gone forever. Hell, Jason COULD be even more mentally healthy for this.
Jason didn't make the right decision because what about all the lives Jason could have saved from two face, penguin, bane, and all the other villains he was trained to fight against? Instead he's just locked up in jail beating criminals that were already caught, waste of a protector for Gotham.
I know Deep down Gordon is happy he probably wanted to do it himself but it goes against his morals. Honestly I would probably do the same thing if I got killed by joker then revived
I think the takeaway here is that everyone's still recovering from what the Joker did to them: Barbara's being consoled but still processing the events (though she'll eventually come to terms that he's dead for good).Grayson is melancholy and trying to think how Bruce would react. Lex is probably thinking "Good riddance" and nothing else. Harleen is probably feeling pity, since she 'thinks' that he could have been cured. Jason is, without a doubt, a good person for doing this. But the shit Joker did to everyone? That's not gonna just wash off once he's dead. Edit: I forgot to mention Gordon, who probably wanted Joker to go through due process. He's probably just disappointed the Joker never faced justice, or reminded that batman's gone. Joker's last moments was looking on in shock, realizing that this was it: His last act, his curtain call. There wasn't an encore, and this wasn't the batman. This was the boy who he traumatized, come back to exact revenge.
I love how out of place Luther is in this situation like how his just like, “oh that clown fella is dead, oh well better just continue my mundane life ruining superman’s”
So everyone is sad when Joker was killed by Jason. After he mentally abused and killed thousands of people with gas and weapons. Yeah, this ending is total crap. Grieving for deranged lunatic.
I think batman and Barbara are sad for that fact this makes jason a killer. They hoped he would become better and instead he stooped even lower. They know he won't stop killing criminals and so he'll just become another inmate at arkham or blackgate.
They're sad because it proves that evil triumphs. They wanted to do do it through no deaths, by proving good could win. But ultimately Jason's evil/anti-hero ways were the solution.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 Thats what Black Operations are for. Sometimes you have to do bad things to achieve said goals. CIA has been doing this for years.
@@danatedawg1018 hell yea. If someone gave me the choice of death or having all my bones broken and being paralyzed for life from the neck down its and easy choice.
He's probably just disappointed that he never got to shoot the Joker himself or like Bruce he's upset that someone took the law into their hands to put the Joker down. He's a cop after all so he probably always dreamed of the day where the Joker was sentenced to death, but we all know that can never happen because the system protects criminally insane people like him.
It’s because he knows that since Jason killed someone without a doubt, he has to be arrested. He wanted to believe that despite everything, he could maybe just look the other way.
@@boxtank5288 It's better than letting Joker live. Mercy for those who have committed evil isn't a strength, it's only letting the living victims of Joker suffer more.
@@jackbartholomaus6510 Joker is a corruptor. His sole desire is to make the world as mad and broken as he is. All to prove a twisted point. He especially wants this for Batman and his family. There's nothing that would make him happier than to twist and get them to break their morals. Which he succeeded with Jason. He was happy to die, since he knew it's exactly what Batman wouldn't want.
@@jackbartholomaus6510 True, doesn't change the fact that that's what Joker wanted. You should watch the scene before this. Where Joker surgically dismantles everything Todd did up to the point he's shot. Joker had broken Todd thoroughly.
More linke lingering comics code. It's the same reason why we are supposed to think Bruce's code is so importqnt but not question what the heavily armed swat team with commissioner gordon would have done if Joker tried to run.
Let's face it, if I was a GCPD officer with the clown in the back of the squad car, I could drive in front of the town Hall at midday, take him out of the car, make him lie face first on the pavement and unload my entire mag on the back of his head, and there wouldn't be a court in the state or city that would convict me. I'm pretty it would be caught on CCTV, and as far as the jury is concerned, it was preemptive self defence and carrying out the duties to protect and serve the city.
put a stake through his heart as well... I know he's not a vampire, but it makes me feel better.
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@@casualspartan4532 The Vlad treatment seems a bit excessive but better safe than sorry with the joke. I'll grab a hack saw, how many city gates do we have to hang his arms, legs and other parts at?
The funny thing is, gordon showing up with guns drawn shows how dumb the nonkill rule thing is. And how dumb the idea is of Jason just going too far if he killed the joker lol. Gordon and his cops were armed to the teeth.. what? Those just for show? Like give me a break. Cops killing someone like the joker is all good because they get paid? They never address shit like that. Why? Because the no kill rule is nonsense invented purely to make soccer mom Karen's feel better and stop complaining. Batman killed all the time before that.
Everyone else: I can't believe he just did that. A hero should never kill. Lex: Someone actually had the balls to do it? Is this what it feels like to be impressed?
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the joker not smiling while dead was because he possibly didn't expect it. As for why they're all sad, it's possible that it was because they feel like they've lost Jason again (for the BatFam), lost a lover (for Harleen Quinzel). For Lex Luthor, I am honestly at a loss. Maybe he was supposed to seem more shocked than sad.
I get morals and having a code to live by but the message that comics like Batman send that if you kill one person, even in self-defense, then you are beyond saving just doesn't sound right to me. It's pretty much saying that soldiers, or anyone serving in the line of duty or just defending themselves, are terrible people. Jason killing anyone remotely bad is a terrible thing, because there are people who can be better if just given the chance and because life itself is precious. But killing someone like the Joker, who has proven won't change for the better and is a very dangerous, doesn't make Jason beyond saving. I'm not saying that killing someone in cold blood is right, nor should one seek to kill, but if someone like the Joker is trying to kill you then he should be put down.
I agree. I think it's more some because it's them doing the killing. They don't have powers but let's be real they are superhuman in comparison to regular ppl. I think they fear it can become a habit. like after joker might as well kill scarecrow, riddler etc, honestly they probably could kill the roster in one night. I mean I think it would better that way but to a point I see it but they stretch it too far sometimes. With Superman naw 😂 don't even let him kill a fly nobody got time to deal with his ass.
I always thought that it was because vigilantes can’t be the judge jury executioners. Everyone blames Batman for not killing Joker, but what about the ones who’s jobs it actually is to punish Joker. The vigilantes just act as an extension of the police who happen to work outside of the law, and because they’re outside of the law, they have limits on how far they can go. Everything else needs to be left to the legal system. The courts should’ve executed him ages ago, but because he’s been labeled criminally insane (which may or may not simply be something that he fooled them into believing just so he won’t get the death penalty), he’s put in Arkham. That’s a failure on the court system. Not on Batman. Bruce is stuck cleaning up their mess over and over again, without being able to finish it permanently, both because of his personal code, and the fact that vigilantes like him are only tolerated so long as they don’t kill.
@@coltonwilliams4153 On that I agree. The people in charge should have more than enough to put the Joker on Death Row. Or hell, the police probably have had more than enough encounters to justifiably kill the Joker. Batman not killing is part of who he is and vigilantes shouldn't kill just because they feel like it. What I was saying was that I don't like how Batman has this belief that killing in any sort of way (like self-defense or in the line of duty) makes someone terrible.
@@tjjordan4207 That’s likely part of his own trauma and him thinking about the people who care for those he might kill. His entire world was shattered by his parents’ deaths, to the point where some would say that Bruce Wayne also died in that alley. He doesn’t want to put anyone through that pain.
Exactly, all the drama is created by one thing: total inability of the judicial system to deal with a threat. Supervillains were handed over to the government over and over again, literally millions were spent to hold a bunch of freaks in their cells forever, which didn't achieve a thing. They were leaving and making a fuss again. Batman and other heroes are tormented with responsibility, lose the loved ones and get countless injuries, putting their faith into the system that will judge villains appropriately, but they aren't. What would happen in the real world: the law would be complemented with the paragraphs about “superpeople status”, describing supervillains as a threat that realistically can't be dealt with by normal measures. That would make giving a death sentence to confirmed superpeople, who occured this status from Supreme Court by a special procedure probably, easier and quicker. Supervillains being confirmed mass murderers with tons of witnesses should help. Probably Gotham could get a martial law, because it's literal war on the streets, with enormous casualties and infrastructure damage. That would let the military kill Joker and others on sight. And so, the problem is solved. Batman and others don't want to pose as vigilantes, because the judicial system knows better how to handle criminals. Well, wonderful. Let this system take action and get rid of literal national level threat.
@Francisco Leyva Martin Yeah, I know. This is one of the many alternate choices in this movie. I am saying that if the whole DC Universe was real, Joker beimg killed wouldn't seem like a bad thing.
Some people say that Barbara is crying because Jason killed Joker. I'd like to think she's crying because the guy who crippled her is dead and his reign of terror is no more.
I am against “killing villains” or death penalty in the majority of cases. But the joker argument has always been childish and just silly. He’s an individual that has gone far past redemption or recovery. Killing him would’ve saved thousands and thousands of life. I kinda like the modern explanation to why Batman doesn’t kill him (cause apparently Batman is just as crazy and that would lead to him unavoidably killing others if he got triggered by one execution). But overall, Batman should’ve killed the Joker long ago.
I prefer this ending because the amount of people he killed, the torment he caused on the city is now done. Barbara cries out in joy that he is gone and can’t cause any further harm to her or anyone else she cares about. Out of honesty, The Joker should have been killed the first chance anyone got to do it. The amount of lives it would have saved in killing him rather than letting him live. Due to the Batman’s one rule of not killing, it was enabling criminals to kill whenever they would escape and go on the loose again. Thanks for uploading.
Man, I get the moral implications of it might be bad to the main cast but I just find it unbelievable how everyone seems so sad over a man whose killed so many people and committed so many crimes. It's almost like they put the movie in some uncanny alternate reality to have this make any kind of sen- oh.
Man f*ck that, Jason made the right call. Like seriously how many times have they beat joker lock him up he escapes kills get captured again. So Jason said the hell with this time to put an end to the madness
I'm so tired of either picking a side, when there can be an in-between. There's a version Jason who can sanely pick who lives and dies, which made Bruce think he's crazy, sending him off to asylum only for him to be mentally discharge as perfectly sane. I find it pretty pathetic that all these heroes just instantly go power hungry and insane after one gd kill. cry me a river
As far as I'm concerned Batman has been guilty by association for years letting him live this long. But then you have to factor in that he as much admits he's as crazy as his rogues.
Jason did the right decision by killing him unlike batman letting joker live then clean up his mess was just like rotation happens everyday that all ways made him a winner so this is my prove
The ultimate irony is that a lot of people including those who knew and associated with bruce or batman would be very much relieved even if they disagreed with jason's method. It just goes to show killing the joker is actually a necessary evil which someone had to do for the betterment of the vast majority.
Boohoo Jason broke his promise to bats🙄 The needs of the many(innocent people of Gotham) outweigh the needs of the few(Batman and his dumb standards in letting joker live and kill)!!!!
But in the end the Joker still always wins. He has absolutely nothing to lose. Bruce doesn’t kill him because of his morals so the joker wins. And if anyone does kill him then he still wins because he broke someone then he broke their codes and morals, everything that makes them grounded to earth and human... then they’re no better than a criminal who kills for fun, they’re no better than the joker himself...
@@Nogdog945 But that wouldn’t exactly matter to just about anyone in Gotham or on earth save for bats for some reason. The clown’s dead now on the next archenemy
@@TheDaviesCR lol in this case killing a mass murderer of thousands who constantly escapes confinement and promises to kill again is not totalitarian. Extreme pacifism to the point where you wouldn't kill someone like the Joker, (who is much worse than an Osama Bin Laden) is a ridiculous stance.
With the sole exception of Harley, everyone (sans Luthor, who just couldn't give a toss really) is less sad by Joker's demise but about Jason's decision. The silence being because they understand WHY he did it, relief in some (Barbara and Gordon) and in at least one, sorrowful acceptance (Dick Greyson).
Barbra I could understand crying since the joker was the monster who tortured and put her in the wheelchair Dick and Alfred I understand being disappointed in jason Harleen tearing up made sense but what doesn't make sense is that how is there not 1 person who's genuinely celebrating over this?
seriously, it just feels like everything is just so one sided in the movie. Like literally all one side. If Jason kills the joker, everyone's in despair and Jason has cursed the bat family. If Jason lets the Joker live after realizing what he's been doing is wrong and decides to turn over a new leaf, everyone hates Jason still and basically disown him. Like, what's the point of giving me multiple routes and choices if Jason ultimately gets the short end of the stick regardless?
Barbara: cries because she can't phisically dance over his grave Bruce: mourns because he's been always a deranged hero Luthor: I'm just gonna take a shit Harleen: Now who's gonna hold me on an abusive relationship for years?
*"You're welcome."* That's what I would say and walk away. Oh my Ghoul! Imagine if Harleen had become Harley and she was there at the bridge, holding Joker and crying! I would love to see that!
@@florentiusraditiosulisetyo4170 Well they’re not making it easier by being sad about doing the right thing. The right thing is to stop people from dying and that saved who knows how many.
@@grimshock6983 doesn’t change the fact that Jason is now a killer and broke his promise to Bruce, kinda understandable why they would be sad over that
You should try to do something about the video that says Jason confronts the joker cause it say there is copyright clams on it and I really badly want to watch this movie so bad ):
I know I saw that 😭😭😭 but imma try upload them all I’m actually on my computer trying to do the end screen videos so everybody can watch the video and then they can do the options
@@spectra5407 To be fair they Probably was told by Batman multiple times All overheard the joker talking about humanity and its flaws and how deep down that were all sinners and as just as dark as he is
At least they had the sense to cremate the Joker, so no one can use a Lazarus pit on him.
They did that in Arkhamverse too. After Joker died in Arkham City, Gordon and Batman instantly agreed upon to cremate Joker's corpse to make sure he doesn’t come back in some way.
But in the comic book universe anything can happen. The writers would think of a way to bring him back.
Depending on the universe Joker can be resurrected even in ash, Ra’s was able to when he turned into ash
@@isaacyeon6334 In that case, they need to scatter the ashes in different locations far apart.
@@ChaosPod lmao imagine if they didn’t find them all and when Joker is resurrected a part of him is gone
Lex: **reads that the Joker has died** "Hmmm. I think I'll order a ham sandwich."
Lex: “Wait, they can do that? The heroes can just....kill us now? Hmm, mildly upsetting.”
@RathsBone96 its the bald of brazzers
@@javiersanchez6534 Johnny sins
Lexy was sad.
That would be a lot more in his genral character than the sad face we get here.
So you're telling me, there is not one character in this universe that is dancing over this news?
Yep
lol
Kinda bullshit.
It really is bullshit
I think Barbara was since she was probably crying of relief
Realistically, Batman would be angry in the moment but sleep a lot more soundly at night if someone killed the Joker
The main reason Batman never killed Joker or allowed anyone else to was because Joker represented the worst of Gotham. Batman was always scared that with Jokers death, Gotham would throw up something worse than the Joker, something Batman wouldn't be able to stop.
That isn't the reason why, if you could kill the joker you could kill anyone. If batman believes he is justified in taking human life he could rightly say anyone who crosses a certain line has to suffer the same consequences. Inevitably he kill another "joker" who pushes the line, and then another, until he starts killing people who are close to breaching that line, and then anyone who gets him angry ultimately becoming a real vigilante. He wouldn't be a Superhero anymore he would just be some criminal who killed people who displeased him, and carried his own personal vengeance out
@@jw8219 Cool paragraph there. But that's not at all what I'm saying here. If Gordon shot and killed Joker, Batman would be angry for the first month. But he would get over it because the Joker isn't running around committing mass murder every Friday night
@@jw8219 dude I'm literally paraphrasing what the Dark Knight himself says in Synders run. It was either Death of the Family or Endgame but he said he was scared of who would come next if Joker died.
@@jw8219 also Batman isn't a superhero, dudes got no powers (even if he is recognised as a metahuman). He's definitely a vigilante, just an accepted one. And the whole point of him becoming Batman was because of vengeance, it's a big theme in his arc.
And you can't exactly put a maniac like the Joker who has hurt multiple people in Batmans life and killed thousands of others in the same category as everyone else. The Joker is a special kind of sick and twisted that is barely rivalled by others.
Joker dies.
Dr. Quinzel cries.
Possible conclusion: Birth of a savagely deranged Harley Quinn.
Loads another bullet.
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Nah, yoyo come into life
Yeah Harley is probably going to try to kill red hood now
Or she actually becomes the new joker lol
Ladies and gentleman this is the reason why Harleen Quinzel never became Harley Quinn. Thanks Jason .
Maybe she'll become something worse.
she'll become Jokeress
Thank god no more Hot Topic Merch 😂
Great the character is over exposed and dc keep diluting the concept.
As bully Maguire would say good riddance
Couldn't they at least have thrown in a few scenes of random citizens in Gotham either celebrating the Joker's demise with a party and scenes of families who were victimized by the Joker hugging each other and shedding joyful tears over the fact that Joker is gone and they finally get justice? You can't tell me that the people of Gotham wouldn't be throwing a parade over that guy finally getting what he deserved.
Probably because that went without saying and in reality its more important the reaction of the people that matter like Barbara, bruce and Lex
He got what he fucking deserved
Without joker, there's no order to the city
@@lonely_warrior No, it's a heavy handed suggestion that Jason crossed a line. In the real world, his trial would end in a not-guilty verdict after his attorney successfully argued a defense of "justifiable homicide." And that's assuming the D.A. didn't drop the charges because, "Your Honor, the State sees no reason to continue this case. I strongly doubt I can find a dozen people to sit on the Jury who will unanimously disagree that the Joker needed killing."
@@Archone666 ok your right, but im curious and here is my question is, how your comment is related to what i said?
my coment was about the why is more important to see the reaction of Lex and others than the normal citizen
They cremated his body just like in the beginning of Arkham Knight nice nod.
Can't have this psycho in the Lazarus pit. Duck that shit
@@amalik4273 exactly!
At least there no jump scare
Nah, just coincidence
I pressed the button and burned the evil bastard myself
Honestly, he should be seen as a hero if anything.
the one thing that never made sense to me is that no police officer ever killed Joker with the amount of people he’s killed i’d expect someone to put a bullet in his skull at some point
@@deathking1019 one word plot armor
@@michealbanksjr.3630 That's 2 words
@@michealbanksjr.3630 i believe that’s two...
@@deathking1019 I thought about it too, why doesn't a police offficer kill the joker and after internet searching it said it was because a lot of gotham PD is corrupt so it would benefit them
Why is everyone sad Joker died, I get the people disappointed in Jason killing but SERIOUSLY!? JOKER!?
Of it was me I'd say "finally, good riddance"
I think it’s more of Barbara’s sadness/tears being for Jason’s choice and the knowledge that the one who crippled her is dead. For Dick, he’s upset that Jason was the Red Hood, and he killed Joker, which goes against Batman. Lex doesn’t care. And Harleen because Joker is dead and she loved himz
Kinda like crying over Hittler
@@subjectdelta7210 yeah but compare to joker crying over Hitler feels more realistic
Why would anyone be disappointed in any hero for killing someone like the Joker? I'm more disappointed in the fact that he wasn't already dead!
I like how in this ending, everyone is sad that Jason broke his promise to Bruce and that he’ll kill again, but it’s better than him letting Joker live and then being out to get Jason, while Jason is on the run from the police and the Batfamily.
Gotham is really messed up.
Not really Gotham is practically cursed due it ancient history it has , a new villain would simply take joker place it like cutting the head off the hydra
@@spinozilla2421 It's just DC explaining shitty progression. Really it's to uphold the status quo
It’s not better. It sets a dangerous standard that criminals are up for getting killed. How many is too many crimes now? Who decides who does or who gets help? When you cross that line, it only invites criminals to either grow more vicious, get better at hiding, or people who need help being afraid to find it because they could be killed.
@@nmr7203 So has Dent. So has Mad Hatter. So has Freeze. And so does Jason.
@@Clorgisclorg Actually fear of being murdered by unstopable vigilante is more probable to discourage criminals. After all only those few total maniacs like Joker want to be killed
People are wondering why she is sad about the Joker's death she's not, she's crying for Jason because he broke Bruce's promise and now he's seen as a vigilante but Jason made the right decision even though blinded by rage. Jason will keep killing because he isn't Batman he never was.
I agree with you. Sometimes otherpeople have to do what the heroes aren't willing to do.
That's the thing. Jason MIGHT stop at Joker. It is an unknown because he knows now what his brain was doing and can get help now that his abuser is gone forever.
Hell, Jason COULD be even more mentally healthy for this.
Battle not with monsters unless you become a monster.
Bruce’s promise was stupid.
“WAAAAAH NOT THE HECKEN JOKERINO HE ONLY RAPED ME, KILLED BRUCE AND LEFT ME A PARAPLEGIC”
Jason didn't make the right decision because what about all the lives Jason could have saved from two face, penguin, bane, and all the other villains he was trained to fight against? Instead he's just locked up in jail beating criminals that were already caught, waste of a protector for Gotham.
I know Deep down Gordon is happy he probably wanted to do it himself but it goes against his morals. Honestly I would probably do the same thing if I got killed by joker then revived
Well here he got saved by Batman
@@polboy787 ?
@@Zenji-m Joker didn't killed him becose Batman managed to save him
@@Zenji-m ya in this path jokers bomb didn’t kill robin cause Batman saved him but Batman did die
@@polboy787 oh I haven’t watched the movie or seen all the different scenarios yet
I think the takeaway here is that everyone's still recovering from what the Joker did to them: Barbara's being consoled but still processing the events (though she'll eventually come to terms that he's dead for good).Grayson is melancholy and trying to think how Bruce would react. Lex is probably thinking "Good riddance" and nothing else. Harleen is probably feeling pity, since she 'thinks' that he could have been cured.
Jason is, without a doubt, a good person for doing this. But the shit Joker did to everyone? That's not gonna just wash off once he's dead.
Edit: I forgot to mention Gordon, who probably wanted Joker to go through due process. He's probably just disappointed the Joker never faced justice, or reminded that batman's gone.
Joker's last moments was looking on in shock, realizing that this was it: His last act, his curtain call. There wasn't an encore, and this wasn't the batman. This was the boy who he traumatized, come back to exact revenge.
They're not crying for Joker but for Jason, there's a big point in the movie about Jason breaking his last promise to Batman about not killing Joker.
Why was everybody in Gotham acting so sad over that? "Oh no, the unrepentant lunatic who's killed hundreds of us is dead! Whatever shall we do?"
Username checks out lol
They were sad Jason broke his promise.
I love how out of place Luther is in this situation like how his just like, “oh that clown fella is dead, oh well better just continue my mundane life ruining superman’s”
So everyone is sad when Joker was killed by Jason. After he mentally abused and killed thousands of people with gas and weapons.
Yeah, this ending is total crap. Grieving for deranged lunatic.
I think batman and Barbara are sad for that fact this makes jason a killer. They hoped he would become better and instead he stooped even lower. They know he won't stop killing criminals and so he'll just become another inmate at arkham or blackgate.
@@delvinchi6723 but like who gives a shit? Batman has crippled dozens of people and put some in comas
They're sad because it proves that evil triumphs. They wanted to do do it through no deaths, by proving good could win. But ultimately Jason's evil/anti-hero ways were the solution.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 Thats what Black Operations are for.
Sometimes you have to do bad things to achieve said goals. CIA has been doing this for years.
@@danatedawg1018 hell yea. If someone gave me the choice of death or having all my bones broken and being paralyzed for life from the neck down its and easy choice.
The fact that Gordon doesn't seem satisfied at Joker's death tells it all that it won't relieve his pain.
He, I think, truly wanted to be the one to do it BUT he knew it wouldn't solve anything, his daughter would still be crippled.
He's probably just disappointed that he never got to shoot the Joker himself or like Bruce he's upset that someone took the law into their hands to put the Joker down. He's a cop after all so he probably always dreamed of the day where the Joker was sentenced to death, but we all know that can never happen because the system protects criminally insane people like him.
It’s because he knows that since Jason killed someone without a doubt, he has to be arrested. He wanted to believe that despite everything, he could maybe just look the other way.
@@boxtank5288 It's better than letting Joker live. Mercy for those who have committed evil isn't a strength, it's only letting the living victims of Joker suffer more.
Crap writing.
Any cop would've celebrated.
Its basically killing Hitler.
On the plus side, Tim is spared from becoming Joker Junior.
Wrong universe.
@@Bluesit32 I know.
or worst made superman kill him
idk, Jason is kinda a hero in my eyes ngl
Well... looks like the Joker finally got what he deserved.
No, he got what he wanted. Which is far worse.
@@Darkvega2k7 What do you mean?
@@jackbartholomaus6510 Joker is a corruptor. His sole desire is to make the world as mad and broken as he is. All to prove a twisted point. He especially wants this for Batman and his family. There's nothing that would make him happier than to twist and get them to break their morals. Which he succeeded with Jason. He was happy to die, since he knew it's exactly what Batman wouldn't want.
@@Darkvega2k7 But Jason Tod had already killed before he killed Joker, he killed black mask with a giant glass peace.
@@jackbartholomaus6510 True, doesn't change the fact that that's what Joker wanted. You should watch the scene before this. Where Joker surgically dismantles everything Todd did up to the point he's shot. Joker had broken Todd thoroughly.
Jason just had the balls to do what no one else could
The amount of lives Jason just saved
Bias writing, half of those people would had trown a party by now
More linke lingering comics code. It's the same reason why we are supposed to think Bruce's code is so importqnt but not question what the heavily armed swat team with commissioner gordon would have done if Joker tried to run.
Miguel Reyes A.
Why would the crusade not be worth anything? The enemy is dead.
@Miguel Reyes A. Were there villains like Joker before Batman was born?
@Miguel Reyes A.
_”It’s a viscous cycle”_
So keep killing them. Duh.
Let's face it, if I was a GCPD officer with the clown in the back of the squad car, I could drive in front of the town Hall at midday, take him out of the car, make him lie face first on the pavement and unload my entire mag on the back of his head, and there wouldn't be a court in the state or city that would convict me.
I'm pretty it would be caught on CCTV, and as far as the jury is concerned, it was preemptive self defence and carrying out the duties to protect and serve the city.
Harley: Welp Puddin' is dead time to get a new guy!!
Double tap to make sure the joker I'd really dead destroy his ashes leave nothing of him left
She looks pretty devastated about it lol.
put a stake through his heart as well... I know he's not a vampire, but it makes me feel better.
@@casualspartan4532 The Vlad treatment seems a bit excessive but better safe than sorry with the joke. I'll grab a hack saw, how many city gates do we have to hang his arms, legs and other parts at?
@ last I counted was around 2-3 hundred. think that'll work?
Double tap like Columbus said.
The funny thing is, gordon showing up with guns drawn shows how dumb the nonkill rule thing is.
And how dumb the idea is of Jason just going too far if he killed the joker lol. Gordon and his cops were armed to the teeth.. what? Those just for show? Like give me a break. Cops killing someone like the joker is all good because they get paid?
They never address shit like that. Why? Because the no kill rule is nonsense invented purely to make soccer mom Karen's feel better and stop complaining. Batman killed all the time before that.
Almost like they are cops, and the other is just a vigilante they put up with because they are not killing people, or something
Everyone else: I can't believe he just did that. A hero should never kill.
Lex: Someone actually had the balls to do it? Is this what it feels like to be impressed?
The fact that Joker wasn't smiling while dead is scaring me...
...but you know what it's even scarier? They are all sad!
Oh, i'd be sad as well.
Sad that it was not i who put the only medicine Joker ever needed in his head.
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н Wtf? Lol
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н hahahah true
I'm going out on a limb here but I think the joker not smiling while dead was because he possibly didn't expect it. As for why they're all sad, it's possible that it was because they feel like they've lost Jason again (for the BatFam), lost a lover (for Harleen Quinzel). For Lex Luthor, I am honestly at a loss. Maybe he was supposed to seem more shocked than sad.
They’re all sad because of what Jason has become, the only one whose actually sad because Joker is dead is Harley
Though they didn't show it, the rest of Gotham was throwing the fattest city-wide fiesta anyone had ever seen there in a century
I get morals and having a code to live by but the message that comics like Batman send that if you kill one person, even in self-defense, then you are beyond saving just doesn't sound right to me. It's pretty much saying that soldiers, or anyone serving in the line of duty or just defending themselves, are terrible people.
Jason killing anyone remotely bad is a terrible thing, because there are people who can be better if just given the chance and because life itself is precious. But killing someone like the Joker, who has proven won't change for the better and is a very dangerous, doesn't make Jason beyond saving. I'm not saying that killing someone in cold blood is right, nor should one seek to kill, but if someone like the Joker is trying to kill you then he should be put down.
I agree. I think it's more some because it's them doing the killing. They don't have powers but let's be real they are superhuman in comparison to regular ppl. I think they fear it can become a habit. like after joker might as well kill scarecrow, riddler etc, honestly they probably could kill the roster in one night. I mean I think it would better that way but to a point I see it but they stretch it too far sometimes. With Superman naw 😂 don't even let him kill a fly nobody got time to deal with his ass.
I always thought that it was because vigilantes can’t be the judge jury executioners. Everyone blames Batman for not killing Joker, but what about the ones who’s jobs it actually is to punish Joker. The vigilantes just act as an extension of the police who happen to work outside of the law, and because they’re outside of the law, they have limits on how far they can go. Everything else needs to be left to the legal system. The courts should’ve executed him ages ago, but because he’s been labeled criminally insane (which may or may not simply be something that he fooled them into believing just so he won’t get the death penalty), he’s put in Arkham. That’s a failure on the court system. Not on Batman. Bruce is stuck cleaning up their mess over and over again, without being able to finish it permanently, both because of his personal code, and the fact that vigilantes like him are only tolerated so long as they don’t kill.
@@coltonwilliams4153 On that I agree. The people in charge should have more than enough to put the Joker on Death Row. Or hell, the police probably have had more than enough encounters to justifiably kill the Joker. Batman not killing is part of who he is and vigilantes shouldn't kill just because they feel like it.
What I was saying was that I don't like how Batman has this belief that killing in any sort of way (like self-defense or in the line of duty) makes someone terrible.
@@tjjordan4207 That’s likely part of his own trauma and him thinking about the people who care for those he might kill. His entire world was shattered by his parents’ deaths, to the point where some would say that Bruce Wayne also died in that alley. He doesn’t want to put anyone through that pain.
Exactly, all the drama is created by one thing: total inability of the judicial system to deal with a threat. Supervillains were handed over to the government over and over again, literally millions were spent to hold a bunch of freaks in their cells forever, which didn't achieve a thing. They were leaving and making a fuss again.
Batman and other heroes are tormented with responsibility, lose the loved ones and get countless injuries, putting their faith into the system that will judge villains appropriately, but they aren't.
What would happen in the real world: the law would be complemented with the paragraphs about “superpeople status”, describing supervillains as a threat that realistically can't be dealt with by normal measures. That would make giving a death sentence to confirmed superpeople, who occured this status from Supreme Court by a special procedure probably, easier and quicker. Supervillains being confirmed mass murderers with tons of witnesses should help. Probably Gotham could get a martial law, because it's literal war on the streets, with enormous casualties and infrastructure damage. That would let the military kill Joker and others on sight.
And so, the problem is solved. Batman and others don't want to pose as vigilantes, because the judicial system knows better how to handle criminals. Well, wonderful. Let this system take action and get rid of literal national level threat.
The Joker getting murdered is actually a good thing. Barb and Gordon are sad because Jason broke Bruce's promise
@Francisco Leyva Martin Yeah, I know. This is one of the many alternate choices in this movie. I am saying that if the whole DC Universe was real, Joker beimg killed wouldn't seem like a bad thing.
He did batman job
And everyone lived happily ever after. THE END
All the main characters: crying
Every citizen in gotham: celebration intensifies
GCPD: "Well, sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here."
LMAO
Lmaooo best comment award
Some people say that Barbara is crying because Jason killed Joker. I'd like to think she's crying because the guy who crippled her is dead and his reign of terror is no more.
@Bunyamin Esen that's the thing tho did they even show in this scenario if they found out that the red hood was Jason?
@@wentoll2997 I'm not exactly sure. But he should did reveal his face
@@quebal_kelly yeah but who else saw other than joker?
@@wentoll2997 that helicopter
@@quebal_kelly perhaps but if that were the case wouldn't the helicopter's spotlight stay on them?
Jason went for the head.
My only problem is I wish Joker smiled when he died.
you know two face is not going be happy about that
I am against “killing villains” or death penalty in the majority of cases. But the joker argument has always been childish and just silly.
He’s an individual that has gone far past redemption or recovery. Killing him would’ve saved thousands and thousands of life.
I kinda like the modern explanation to why Batman doesn’t kill him (cause apparently Batman is just as crazy and that would lead to him unavoidably killing others if he got triggered by one execution).
But overall, Batman should’ve killed the Joker long ago.
This is how it happened...this is how the Joker died
Lex: Well that puts a damper on the Legion of Doom poker nights
I prefer this ending because the amount of people he killed, the torment he caused on the city is now done. Barbara cries out in joy that he is gone and can’t cause any further harm to her or anyone else she cares about. Out of honesty, The Joker should have been killed the first chance anyone got to do it. The amount of lives it would have saved in killing him rather than letting him live. Due to the Batman’s one rule of not killing, it was enabling criminals to kill whenever they would escape and go on the loose again. Thanks for uploading.
She's actually crying for Jason. He broke his promise to Bruce that he made as Bruce was dying.
Why is this sad, I see this as an absolute win
When considering Jason broke his promise to a dying Bruce, it is really sad
Man, I get the moral implications of it might be bad to the main cast but I just find it unbelievable how everyone seems so sad over a man whose killed so many people and committed so many crimes. It's almost like they put the movie in some uncanny alternate reality to have this make any kind of sen- oh.
Which movie is that
I see this as an absolute win.
Man f*ck that, Jason made the right call. Like seriously how many times have they beat joker lock him up he escapes kills get captured again. So Jason said the hell with this time to put an end to the madness
I'm so tired of either picking a side, when there can be an in-between. There's a version Jason who can sanely pick who lives and dies, which made Bruce think he's crazy, sending him off to asylum only for him to be mentally discharge as perfectly sane. I find it pretty pathetic that all these heroes just instantly go power hungry and insane after one gd kill. cry me a river
*Joker dies
Everyone is sad!
Me:ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!CAN U ALL BE GLAD,GRATEFUL AND REJOICE!
Joker should have still been smiling when they showed the body
Yeah especially since he wanted to die as it Jason admitting about becoming the monster he truly became
doing what the Gotham city police department couldn't
Like Jason said in injustice 2 “if I killed joker you’d thank me.” (One of his responses to Dinah)
The Soldier: that thing is how The Joker is Dead.
Everyone: THE JOKER IS DEAD!!!???
The Joker: yes. I AM DEAD!!
That one bullet saved thousands of lives
Ah, best option.
As far as I'm concerned Batman has been guilty by association for years letting him live this long. But then you have to factor in that he as much admits he's as crazy as his rogues.
Finally someone did it
If I were one of those cops I’d say, “Whelp better late than never.”
So Joker dies, and Harley Quinn is born. Way to go, Jason.
She'll be easier to deal with.
Joker had it coming, if I were in Jason shoes, I’d probably do the same thing.
Jason did the right decision by killing him unlike batman letting joker live then clean up his mess was just like rotation happens everyday that all ways made him a winner so this is my prove
And just like that the total death toll in Gotham City was lowered by 80% the following week
0:40 Nice Arkham Knight reference
I new something was familliar
Nice Easter Egg catching!
...imagine if he suddenly started laughing..when they burned him.
You afraid of being ashes! You're afraid of being forgotten! And you will be forgotten, Joker! Because of me!
The ultimate irony is that a lot of people including those who knew and associated with bruce or batman would be very much relieved even if they disagreed with jason's method. It just goes to show killing the joker is actually a necessary evil which someone had to do for the betterment of the vast majority.
Boohoo Jason broke his promise to bats🙄 The needs of the many(innocent people of Gotham) outweigh the needs of the few(Batman and his dumb standards in letting joker live and kill)!!!!
But in the end the Joker still always wins. He has absolutely nothing to lose. Bruce doesn’t kill him because of his morals so the joker wins. And if anyone does kill him then he still wins because he broke someone then he broke their codes and morals, everything that makes them grounded to earth and human... then they’re no better than a criminal who kills for fun, they’re no better than the joker himself...
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" -- how charmingly totalitarian, and very convenient when you're not one of the few.
@@Nogdog945
But that wouldn’t exactly matter to just about anyone in Gotham or on earth save for bats for some reason. The clown’s dead now on the next archenemy
@@TheDaviesCR that is very stupid. You have a lot more chance being in the many than being in the few. Why increase the risk for yourself?
@@TheDaviesCR lol in this case killing a mass murderer of thousands who constantly escapes confinement and promises to kill again is not totalitarian. Extreme pacifism to the point where you wouldn't kill someone like the Joker, (who is much worse than an Osama Bin Laden) is a ridiculous stance.
im glad he didn't get a chance to corrupt harly but from her crying you can tell that he was close
Joker: Dies
Lex: Oh no! Anyway...
Meanwhile Gotham's citizen are proclaming that day "New Christmas"
Why does the movie make it seem like everyone is upset about the news? Wouldn’t everyone be happy I mean the joker is an evil murderer lol.
They're not upset about the Joker, there are upset about Jason.
With the sole exception of Harley, everyone (sans Luthor, who just couldn't give a toss really) is less sad by Joker's demise but about Jason's decision. The silence being because they understand WHY he did it, relief in some (Barbara and Gordon) and in at least one, sorrowful acceptance (Dick Greyson).
Barbra I could understand crying since the joker was the monster who tortured and put her in the wheelchair
Dick and Alfred I understand being disappointed in jason
Harleen tearing up made sense
but what doesn't make sense is that how is there not 1 person who's genuinely celebrating over this?
This, to me, is a happy ending.
seriously, it just feels like everything is just so one sided in the movie. Like literally all one side. If Jason kills the joker, everyone's in despair and Jason has cursed the bat family. If Jason lets the Joker live after realizing what he's been doing is wrong and decides to turn over a new leaf, everyone hates Jason still and basically disown him. Like, what's the point of giving me multiple routes and choices if Jason ultimately gets the short end of the stick regardless?
The cycle ends here
We Must Be Better Than This
@@mikejefferson779 How?
@@Schattennebel
Nah , I'm Just Chain His Comment Because I Thought It Would Be Funny
Also Killing Joker Is The Right Choice , Well For Me At Least And The People Who's Want Joker Dead Too
Barbara: cries because she can't phisically dance over his grave
Bruce: mourns because he's been always a deranged hero
Luthor: I'm just gonna take a shit
Harleen: Now who's gonna hold me on an abusive relationship for years?
Why are many people sad that the Joker dead. He should’ve gotten the death sentence for murdering everyone he see.
@Bunyamin Esen still there is got to be a line to be crossed cause many crazy people who murder do get death.
@Bunyamin Esen Thats false Joker knows exactly what he’s doing more often than not.
@Bunyamin Esen Look it up it was one of the bigger points in one of the comics.
They’re not sad for him, they’re sad for Jason
*"You're welcome."* That's what I would say and walk away. Oh my Ghoul! Imagine if Harleen had become Harley and she was there at the bridge, holding Joker and crying! I would love to see that!
Oh my god, someone in the DC universe actually had the guts to kill him. But then they have the nerve to be sad about it?
Because they’re not sad over him, they’re sad over Jason
So he really did it, Jason finally shot the Joker in the face!
So many DC characters could’ve been in this movie
How’s you and the other 10 people figured that
Joker: Gets capped by Jason
Harley: Well, guess I’m in charge now
They never mention Lex
“I see this as an absolute win”
Jim Gordon and Barbara shouldn’t look that sad. He paralyzed Barbara
Probably tears of relief
No, they sad for Jason. Not Joker
@@florentiusraditiosulisetyo4170 Well they’re not making it easier by being sad about doing the right thing. The right thing is to stop people from dying and that saved who knows how many.
@@grimshock6983 doesn’t change the fact that Jason is now a killer and broke his promise to Bruce, kinda understandable why they would be sad over that
About time someone did it
I like that Arkham Knight reverence
Did us a favor
at least one bat kid has the balls to kill joker like omg this guy will not change as long as he is alive Gotham will never be safe
Sorry I put that so many times it wasn’t showing that I commented so I kept it doing it a little 🤦🏽♀️😂
It’s all good
"Well, that was fun! Who's up for Chinese?"
Now I have “Amazing Grace” on a kazoo playing in my head.
You should try to do something about the video that says Jason confronts the joker cause it say there is copyright clams on it and I really badly want to watch this movie so bad ):
I know I saw that 😭😭😭 but imma try upload them all I’m actually on my computer trying to do the end screen videos so everybody can watch the video and then they can do the options
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TIME TO PAR-TAY!! Barbara, you with me? Alfred? Dick? Gordon? Anybody?
Well it had to be done the worlds better off without the joker
0:40 can't let this pscyco in the Lazarus pit
They all seem to be sad that joker dead lol
It make sense for lex and Harley Quinn but not the others
@@davidspearim5552 probably due to Jason killing him and proving Joker's point he tried to make in The Killing Joke
@@spectra5407 To be fair they Probably was told by Batman multiple times All overheard the joker talking about humanity and its flaws and how deep down that were all sinners and as just as dark as he is
@@spectra5407 That if you beat someone to near death with a crowbar and blow him up, he's probably going to kill you if he somehow survives?
@@HyraxusPrimus no that all it takes is one bad day to turn into someone like the joker
To anyone wondering the las one was Harley, the others are sad that Jason is a killer now
there. what Batman should've done. for 70 years. That's all he had to do
And it's something he will never do.
@@honorio76 well I wouldnt say never... one of the batman cartoons he did kill joker. u can even type on youtube.
Finally! Someone FINALLY did it! If I lived in Gotham, I would totally throw the best party ever since Joker is finally dead.
If jason didn't superman would.....and we all know how that turned out
I would've thrown a parade if Joker is dead.
Honestly I would've done the same.
This is literally the best possible ending, but yet it makes it seem like it’s the bad ending wtf lmfao
Y'all do realize when Joker is gone for good there's no essence in the batman story
i mean, batman himself is dead in this universe anyway
Joker: "Without Batman, crime has no punch line."