Yeah it seems like most viewers prefer TH-cam, but streamers prefer twitch. Seems pretty unanimous with all the (former) TH-camrs. I think ultimately TH-cam just doesn't give a shit about streamers, so why stick around once the money's gone? Sucks for the viewers, but I get it.
TH-cam makes more money from uploaded videos than they do from live streams. That's why they didn't renew contracts with all the streamers this past year.
It might be for some viewers but i think twitch might be better from a creators perspective? Im just assuming because she complained about youtubes chat modding issues a lot for one example. @@jareddeck603
@@jareddeck603chat culture is much better or you can say just different on Twitch. Me personally I don't need it, but it is something all these streamers are used to and I don't think YT can do anything with it. Everything else TH-cam can do and can do better. I also think that YT streamers that have their friend groups on Twitch can feel a bit estranged and left out.
@@jareddeck603It's better in every way for the viewers. But all the former TH-camrs have said that twitch is better for the streamers. Which makes sense because it's only a streaming platform of course that's what it's optimized for. It kinda seems like TH-cam couldn't really care less about streamers.
There is playback... just not intuitively (x out of live and go into videos. the live video will be up to the point u clicked on the page. you may need to cancel autoplay if it thinks you "finished the video" but you can rewind) Shes still gonna upload to YT tho so you still get the vods if u really hate Twitch. Its unfortunate, but Twitch just has so many tools that are better for streamers.
@@Eggs_hatching twitch is better to make money for upcoming streamers. But her fan base definitely got bigger on TH-cam so idk feels kinda like a bigger commitment to get another subscription. Also arguably twitch toxic community’s // LSF are all going to clip her even more out of context & hating on her. Idk the twitch culture is weird to female streamers
@@mollyheart5846 - It may be weird to them, but they get to milk their parasocials for all they're worth...like shooting fish in a barrel! The easiest money they'll ever get. I'd like to say "earn" but it doesn't really fit.
@aldairjr2331which sucks because there’s so much I prefer about TH-cam streaming. The experience is miles better for me as a viewer, so it sucks that they haven’t taken steps to improve it.
I stopped watching fuslie after she went back to twitch and I’ll do the same with Rae . I’m not going to open twitch to be Inundated with ads or paying Amazon $6 a month
@ Yeah TH-cam premium is worth it because of everything it gives you access to. Podcasts, music, movies, documentaries, but Twitch is just Twitch. It’s for people who spend their entire free time watching other people live their life which is weird af.
Leslie multi-streams and I believe Esfand does as well. Everybody else I watch has their Vods posted on TH-cam guess I’ll have to watch Rae in Vod only format as well. I pay for YT Premium to avoid ads and don’t care about chat so Twitch is just another hoop to jump through, no thanks. There are always going to be lurkers similar to myself and I don’t get why live streaming creators wouldn’t want to get as much audience as they could by streaming to multiple platforms if they have the bandwidth to pull it off.
Fuslie also disables TH-cam chat to funnel chatters into one place which Rae has said previously she didn't want to do. And for Rae chat is a big thing so having it all in one place where she has all of her mods instead of them being divided between platforms makes sense. That being said I do wish her choice was TH-cam as it's a better viewing experience, but it is what it is.
@@iLL_WiLL_ My point is that there are lurkers who won't chat anywhere and they are numerous. Ludwig talked about this recently how a large percentage of viewers never chat. For those people I don't see the disadvantage of letting them view where they want to like Leslie does. She is getting 1K-2K viewers on YT that don't care about chatting and she isn't going to miss them in her chat because they were never there to begin with. Furthermore there are still devices with no native Twitch apps available but YT has apps on them. You're giving up ad revenue and the chance to funnel new viewers to Twitch by not multi-streaming to those people.
@@richashby6422 Yeah I am a super casual viewer and pretty much only watch on youtube. Twitch is so annoying to use and I never chat, honestly i don't know who wants to sit around all day and chat to people/streamers, seems super unproductive.
@@richashby6422 You don’t actually need premium. Just use Librewolfe. It automatically blocks ads. Plus all of the premium functions such as playlists are available on desktop except downloads. In fact, desktop has every translation for every video lol. I have both, but free TH-cam is objectively better.
Rae! Ask Lupo about how he got all his chats in one scroll! He has some extension for it! So he doesn’t have three different chats up! Keep streaming on TH-cam! It’s way better!
or better yet turn twitch chat off. then we can continue like nothing ever happened. I don't understand the hype around twitch chat, it seems infinitely more chaotic, unruly, confusing and juvenile to me. maybe I'm just old but I feel like typing a message out is more meaningful than a billion emotes.
@@Sanity016the hype is that the chat would be moderated. Easy to time out and ban people rather than TH-cam. Twitch streamers who streamed on TH-cam always liked Twitch chat better because of it.
Those is my own take, but as a mobile viewer I abhor the twitch app. I also have had TH-cam premium for the last 12 years and use it for ad free content and music. Ever since twitch upped the sub cost to 8.99 I've since had to cancel all but 3 channels because I can't afford it. I guess I'm going full VOD Andy. I'm not too happy. I wish twitch could improve the experience and I wish the ads weren't so crazy. 😢
get a free pihole no ads in twitch yt hulu etc etc. Twitch mobile app is yuck now forcing ppl to watch clips first and more towards emotes yuck but do what you want.
Save your Amazon Prime subscription folks! I do get why she is more than likely moving back to Twitch. All her friends are there and easier to host other streamers. You can combine multiple channels into one broadcast and she able to combine chats together. Better mod tools. Overall better administrative support if she needs it. She sort of hinted about it yesterday during the Mario Party stream on about some very botched sponsorship streams due to TH-cam. Plus having to worry about DMCA all the time. Down side is. The ads. Holy shit the ads. Unless you have a subscription ads will auto-run at any given time. I had to stop watching others on Twitch because of this. So I would definitely save your Amazon Prime subscription for her. There’s no telling if she’s able to set a price for subs. I just hope she doesn’t start the annoying sub notifications everyone uses. I hate that shit. Also, yes the mobile app sucks but there’s nothing we can really do about it. So I think it’s mostly her friends, twitch support and mod tools mostly. And the fact TH-cam gave up on the Gaming community so much.
Love watching Rae but this is probably going to lead to me not watching her anymore. I get switching bc TH-cam has done nothing over the years to make a stable platform for streamers. I just don't like watching on Twitch and I know she said she's going to "try" multiplatforming but we all know she's going to drop it at some point.
As someone who doesnt type in chat, im okay with jusf vod watching....but rae does have tendecies to delete vods out of nowhere😭 And ngl twitch is awful as a viewer(imo), like im happy they prioritize their streamers comfort and ect- but theres no comfort as a viewer. Yt is just simple, how hard is it to have those standards😭💀.
Unfortunately I’ll be a VOD frog. I never open the Twitch app with how good TH-cam’s interface is; I want to be able to skip around to different moments
I don't like that she'll have to leave TH-cam, but I fully understand why. I just despise Twitch as a platform, but it's the easiest for viewership, apart from the VOD and rewind functionality
I am feeling blue about her journey ending in YT. but I believe she is one of the most dedicated streamer for her viewers. enabling both her viewers on YT to still be able to watch her VODs after she move back to Twitch; whether or not she will multi-stream or not. many streamers neglect VODs even though they had did it in the past before. but Rae is truly creating it for her followers. she is very thorough and careful; which I appreciate her thoughtfulness and all around care for both viewers and with her fellow streamers.
honestly she did not take advantage of her streaming on youtube enough. she's been stuck at 3.98-4 million subs for 2-3 years i thought she'd be at 5 million by now
not much on treating them bad cause they got contracts signed but yt prolly just put streaming in the back of their priority list so not much development in the past 5yrs
It just goes to show that unhappy people will target anyone for anything. I've never seen any comments about Rae looking bad, but as soon as she mentioned she's been streaming for 10 years, now people in the comments are saying her age is starting to show. Some very sad people round here.
I know it hurts her that TH-cam didn’t renew her contract 😅 she felt a sense of superiority when she bragged about being a TH-cam streamer … now not even ludwig can say that
Hey guys at least we have 5 years of vods to binge watch all over again Until she posts her twitch vods it aint all bad and what if she multi streams and disables yt chat like Leslie (fuslie) think about and she has a ton of money look at myth he leaked how much he got paid he got 4mil from yt so add up rae's contracts of over 5 years she will be fine for a long time and twitch will be just a side step we have yt still and she will be uploading all her twitch vods to her yt channel for us yt frogs no worries guys cheer up and enjoy the last time she's with us over here in TH-cam for one last time but we all know TH-cam will always be far more better and superior then twitch yt friends live long and prosper ✊
Can someone pretty please explain to me why she doesn’t just resign with TH-cam and stay? Why this back and forth? I remember her leaving Twitch and it being a huge deal, just to go back after 5 years? I’m just confusion.
More money by streaming on twitch (people are forced to buy subscriptions to make it watchable) and then uploading vods on TH-cam (more people watch vods since they didn’t want to watch twitch).
@@Deerjason they are only forced to buy subscriptions to watch if they turn on that setting i think. Fuslie doesnt do that so you can watch without being subscribed.
I just started to watch twitch again because most people moved back. Tho I really hate the ads on twitch 3:00 every hr is crazy. I will miss the loop but what can you do.
Did TH-cam like give up on expanding their streaming ???? Like they were offering contracts to streamers promising to make more changes and expand to become a legitimate streaming platform with better engagement and everything
they fired the head of youtube gaming to cut costs and with that came the end of streaming contracts. and much innovation on the streaming side of youtube. there's no incentive for streamers to stay so they might as well move to twitch where there's a bigger community.
Ahh there goes my fav streamer to watch on youtube, I don't mind twitch but at my place the connection to watch on there compare to youtube, i'd say TH-cam >>, while on twitch I have to like see loading in between minutes but all in all, she returns to twitch after so many years which is cool !
No twitch for me . Too many ads .. each sub $7 .. Rae has hundreds of thousands of followers so to lose a few thousand or so won't much matter. Higher sub cost balances out lost viewers/subs . I'm sure TH-cam will offer her new contract.. hopefully she'll consider it.
Guys it’s ok if she streams on twitch after all if you guys see TH-cam is still the best because even though they stream on twitch thier vods there don’t last long they have to upload it TH-cam to be there longer so it’s fine…
Guys it's fine either way, and Twitch is not even that bad, It's my first time trying it so far I'm enjoying for a week now and the sub for no ads seems fair to me... Vod channels would always be there so y'all have nothing to lose anyways 👍
It's no ads for that particular stream went to another channel and you need another subscription and don't get me wrong it's fine but getting flashed by ads every 10 minutes with 1 and half minutes ads? The worse thing is no playback son if you miss out something you gonna miss it out until they released the VOD which sometimes gonna be soundless because of DMCA
@Xygard In my perspective, I feel like the problem is you watch too many streamers... I only watch like 3-5 streamers so I never have to worry about spending too much money on subs nor where I spend my free time. Also, in TH-cam if they get DMCA the whole vod goes down the streamer has to privately download the vod to save it and according to Rae & Ludwig sometimes those vods are not save-able nor woth the risk and if they can save it, chat replay won't be saved either way which is the best part of a stream. Specially Rae's because she doesn't have chat logs in screen so if you watch her vods it's like watching a schizo for hours...
She is literally about to Thanos snap her viewership. I get that Twitch is the best platform for live streaming. But she can't expect everyone to move over. I wish her the best, though.
This is just my ramblings and thoughts but feel free to ignore them i mean what the hell do I know anyways. She has tons of friends over there and the way raids work she we will most likely just absorb many of her friends audience who already liked her but didnt like watching TH-cam. Not to mention she has a following of over million on the platform and its where she started streaming. Also do to raids she likely have a huge welcome stream with all her friends raiding into her stream boosting the fact she is on the platform. average streamer typically bigger on twitch than on TH-cam mainly because they dont have to compete with videos and shorts. But overall i think streaming on twitch is normally preferred from the streamers side better and easy moderation, more info about current streaming, more support for streaming from twitch staff, not having to worry about dmc, being able to do 24 hour streams if you please, community it more tightly nit so jokes are platform wide rather than just based on your chat and easy to read chat. I aslo heavily prefer TH-cam i hate ads but in the end whatever is best for the stream is what they should go with. I will say if anyone is to blame it would have to be TH-cam I know lud has sent lists of things he wanted added that would help bring people over that he and his community put together he even did a survey for TH-cam asking twitch streamers and TH-cam streamers what are features you would want TH-cam to add and to my knowledge TH-cam didnt add any of them and he started doing that 3 years ago. Im sure valkyrae also had meetings and mentioned things that should be changed that were never addressed either. I feel if i was in there position I would probably be just as conflicted you have been using this website for years making them money and trying to improve it and nothing is changing it would kind of feel like you were at a dead end.
She started on twitch lmao at least 75% of her viewership is going to follow her and she'll grow as well due to the visibility on twitch and all her friends being there and them cross pollinating viewers that may have never left to watch other streamers in the group that often. I won't be going to twitch unless there's no ads like Hasans stream, but I think a large chunk will follow. I'll just watch the vods.
The Twitch ads are unbearable. They don't seem to understand that we're okay with some ads but the amount of ads and how often they play it is what everyone is complaining about.
Twitch is the only thing i saw live streaming platform where instead live chat its live emote, emote every single second only 1 or 2 real chat is just annoying plus its so bad for viewers all around quality nope not gonna touch it maybe tune in once or twice but judt wait for a VOD if she upload it 🙂
Twitch peak was years ago ( now twitch loosing millions of views, down 70% of ads recently, More toxicity, etc) Yt is raising up from watchers to live now. More ppl know yt (ask your parents what is twitch) lol. More ads, way more tools for chatters (ai mod, anti botter, and history when mods change streamers title etc etc. I'm glad i'm on yt my views been going up compared when on twitch during peak ninja times. I'm in more countries even S korea and Th. (ya twitch ya). I know why some top ppl are ditching contract but can't say. Think $
The main issue is streaming will always be a second priority to TH-cam thus a lot of suggestions that her and Ludwig are pretty much ignored(even more so with this new president, look him up).
I feel like it's the opposite, it seems more like Twitch is slowly becoming mainstream now. I worked at a mini mart near a school, highschool students that looks like they were too young for Twitch come in watching Clix, Kai, Nmplol, & others... On their phones.
You can still earn twice more in twitch than yt. Without contracts yt streaming is ass for streamers. Of course you will choose where the money is. That is the right move
@@cassiel_07I what can you do if the only thing to entertain you is internet even TV is suck now and ofc they would know twitch if the use a bit of tiktok it's gonna be mentioned there and they got curious so yeah
TH-cam doesn't care about its streaming service, WCYD. They didn't update one new interactive function in like 3 years. Like the fan-made emojis, the 'gamba,' viewers voting, even the hype train on Twitch gives viewers a lot more to do while watching. Compare that to YT; what is the last time that they made something new and fun to improve your viewing experience?
happy for rae, but very sad her time on youtube is closing. as a viewer, i definitely prefer watching lives from youtube!
Yeah it seems like most viewers prefer TH-cam, but streamers prefer twitch. Seems pretty unanimous with all the (former) TH-camrs. I think ultimately TH-cam just doesn't give a shit about streamers, so why stick around once the money's gone? Sucks for the viewers, but I get it.
@@thMaddHatter yea your totally right!
definitely sad 4 her youtube viewers & vod watchers watching live & rewatching them w/ chat replay
same but mostly because i like seeing people talk with words instead of just spamming random emotes but im old LOL.
TH-cam makes more money from uploaded videos than they do from live streams. That's why they didn't renew contracts with all the streamers this past year.
I was foolishly hoping she'd stay despite her contract ending.
@@Sanity016 same it makes no seces going back to twitch TH-cam is better in everyway
It might be for some viewers but i think twitch might be better from a creators perspective? Im just assuming because she complained about youtubes chat modding issues a lot for one example. @@jareddeck603
@@jareddeck603chat culture is much better or you can say just different on Twitch. Me personally I don't need it, but it is something all these streamers are used to and I don't think YT can do anything with it. Everything else TH-cam can do and can do better. I also think that YT streamers that have their friend groups on Twitch can feel a bit estranged and left out.
@@jareddeck603It's better in every way for the viewers. But all the former TH-camrs have said that twitch is better for the streamers. Which makes sense because it's only a streaming platform of course that's what it's optimized for. It kinda seems like TH-cam couldn't really care less about streamers.
@@thMaddHatter hope she's happy gonna lose lots of people
there is no playback on twitch, the ads suck bruhh i wish just stays on youtube
i havent had ads on twitch in years. but i'm not a mobile viewer so it's probably worst that way
There is playback... just not intuitively (x out of live and go into videos. the live video will be up to the point u clicked on the page. you may need to cancel autoplay if it thinks you "finished the video" but you can rewind)
Shes still gonna upload to YT tho so you still get the vods if u really hate Twitch. Its unfortunate, but Twitch just has so many tools that are better for streamers.
@@Eggs_hatching twitch is better to make money for upcoming streamers. But her fan base definitely got bigger on TH-cam so idk feels kinda like a bigger commitment to get another subscription. Also arguably twitch toxic community’s // LSF are all going to clip her even more out of context & hating on her. Idk the twitch culture is weird to female streamers
@@mollyheart5846 - It may be weird to them, but they get to milk their parasocials for all they're worth...like shooting fish in a barrel! The easiest money they'll ever get. I'd like to say "earn" but it doesn't really fit.
Twitch culture just so weird instead of real 'chatting' they spamming emote ngl I can't stand watch twitch
Whether it’s her or Lud, I don’t think they will get half of their TH-cam audience to follow them back to Twitch. I know I won’t.
@aldairjr2331which sucks because there’s so much I prefer about TH-cam streaming. The experience is miles better for me as a viewer, so it sucks that they haven’t taken steps to improve it.
@@Panic_Pickle facts everyone says TH-cam is better for streaming and experience period but TH-cam doesn't put anymore effort into streaming
I stopped watching fuslie after she went back to twitch and I’ll do the same with Rae . I’m not going to open twitch to be Inundated with ads or paying Amazon $6 a month
@ Yeah TH-cam premium is worth it because of everything it gives you access to. Podcasts, music, movies, documentaries, but Twitch is just Twitch. It’s for people who spend their entire free time watching other people live their life which is weird af.
@@buffywasright yup . I never got into twitch n only watched Rae and fuslie because they were on TH-cam …
Leslie multi-streams and I believe Esfand does as well. Everybody else I watch has their Vods posted on TH-cam guess I’ll have to watch Rae in Vod only format as well. I pay for YT Premium to avoid ads and don’t care about chat so Twitch is just another hoop to jump through, no thanks. There are always going to be lurkers similar to myself and I don’t get why live streaming creators wouldn’t want to get as much audience as they could by streaming to multiple platforms if they have the bandwidth to pull it off.
Fuslie also disables TH-cam chat to funnel chatters into one place which Rae has said previously she didn't want to do. And for Rae chat is a big thing so having it all in one place where she has all of her mods instead of them being divided between platforms makes sense. That being said I do wish her choice was TH-cam as it's a better viewing experience, but it is what it is.
Nope not going back to twitch don't see why she wonts to anyways @@iLL_WiLL_
@@iLL_WiLL_ My point is that there are lurkers who won't chat anywhere and they are numerous. Ludwig talked about this recently how a large percentage of viewers never chat. For those people I don't see the disadvantage of letting them view where they want to like Leslie does. She is getting 1K-2K viewers on YT that don't care about chatting and she isn't going to miss them in her chat because they were never there to begin with. Furthermore there are still devices with no native Twitch apps available but YT has apps on them. You're giving up ad revenue and the chance to funnel new viewers to Twitch by not multi-streaming to those people.
@@richashby6422 Yeah I am a super casual viewer and pretty much only watch on youtube. Twitch is so annoying to use and I never chat, honestly i don't know who wants to sit around all day and chat to people/streamers, seems super unproductive.
@@richashby6422 You don’t actually need premium. Just use Librewolfe. It automatically blocks ads. Plus all of the premium functions such as playlists are available on desktop except downloads. In fact, desktop has every translation for every video lol. I have both, but free TH-cam is objectively better.
Rae! Ask Lupo about how he got all his chats in one scroll! He has some extension for it! So he doesn’t have three different chats up! Keep streaming on TH-cam! It’s way better!
Omg that'd be perfect, I really hope she stays
Multi stream! Its working for Leslie, she still gets around 2k viewers on youtube, that includes me 😂 watching on YT is just more comfortable for me
If having two chats is an issue, then turn TH-cam’s off, we can pull up twitch’s chat if we have to.
She say she didn’t like the idea of a chat being ignored since there a good chunck of people adamant about not going to twitch
@@jamesluong5299 sounds like a personal problem on their end.
@@Jaeguso Chat is for the parasocials, both twitch and TH-cam. I'll stay on yt for the skippable ads😅
or better yet turn twitch chat off. then we can continue like nothing ever happened. I don't understand the hype around twitch chat, it seems infinitely more chaotic, unruly, confusing and juvenile to me. maybe I'm just old but I feel like typing a message out is more meaningful than a billion emotes.
@@Sanity016the hype is that the chat would be moderated. Easy to time out and ban people rather than TH-cam. Twitch streamers who streamed on TH-cam always liked Twitch chat better because of it.
Those is my own take, but as a mobile viewer I abhor the twitch app. I also have had TH-cam premium for the last 12 years and use it for ad free content and music.
Ever since twitch upped the sub cost to 8.99 I've since had to cancel all but 3 channels because I can't afford it.
I guess I'm going full VOD Andy. I'm not too happy. I wish twitch could improve the experience and I wish the ads weren't so crazy. 😢
Click on one video get 9 adds easy pass
get a free pihole no ads in twitch yt hulu etc etc. Twitch mobile app is yuck now forcing ppl to watch clips first and more towards emotes yuck but do what you want.
you can get turbo. and you can watch any streams without ads on twitch. is definitely better than subscribing
to each channel individually
If you're not subbing for emotes, why not get twitch turbo?
@janab3029 not giving twitch my money it's trash
Save your Amazon Prime subscription folks!
I do get why she is more than likely moving back to Twitch. All her friends are there and easier to host other streamers. You can combine multiple channels into one broadcast and she able to combine chats together. Better mod tools. Overall better administrative support if she needs it. She sort of hinted about it yesterday during the Mario Party stream on about some very botched sponsorship streams due to TH-cam. Plus having to worry about DMCA all the time.
Down side is. The ads. Holy shit the ads. Unless you have a subscription ads will auto-run at any given time. I had to stop watching others on Twitch because of this. So I would definitely save your Amazon Prime subscription for her. There’s no telling if she’s able to set a price for subs. I just hope she doesn’t start the annoying sub notifications everyone uses. I hate that shit. Also, yes the mobile app sucks but there’s nothing we can really do about it.
So I think it’s mostly her friends, twitch support and mod tools mostly. And the fact TH-cam gave up on the Gaming community so much.
Love watching Rae but this is probably going to lead to me not watching her anymore. I get switching bc TH-cam has done nothing over the years to make a stable platform for streamers. I just don't like watching on Twitch and I know she said she's going to "try" multiplatforming but we all know she's going to drop it at some point.
When Rae "tries" something it means she either not going to do it or she'll do it once without effort then drop it.
TH-cam aint paying attention to streamers. I like the platform but it’s just secondary to them.
Nooo 😢 not Rae too 💔
$$$
@@angelsaucedo2231 it's not more money. having a contract is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more lucrative.
@@angelsaucedo2231oh please she doesn't need more money Rae is just following her friends
I uninstalled Twitch over a year ago. Would sometimes tune into raes stream, but if she doesn’t multistream. Im out for good.
As someone who doesnt type in chat, im okay with jusf vod watching....but rae does have tendecies to delete vods out of nowhere😭
And ngl twitch is awful as a viewer(imo), like im happy they prioritize their streamers comfort and ect- but theres no comfort as a viewer. Yt is just simple, how hard is it to have those standards😭💀.
I say this while being a subscriber to miyoung and foolish....💀
Wasn't really trying to pay for a third one😅...welp sorry foolish😬
Twitch viewers are a different breed, emoji spam and incoherent comments, youtube is more mature audience and twitch is the brainrot audience.
Unfortunately I’ll be a VOD frog. I never open the Twitch app with how good TH-cam’s interface is; I want to be able to skip around to different moments
Rae will be forever in our heart.. she the most beauty precious women❤
I was hoping she stay on YT and maybe use Twitch for events or something like that
I don't like that she'll have to leave TH-cam, but I fully understand why. I just despise Twitch as a platform, but it's the easiest for viewership, apart from the VOD and rewind functionality
I am feeling blue about her journey ending in YT. but I believe she is one of the most dedicated streamer for her viewers. enabling both her viewers on YT to still be able to watch her VODs after she move back to Twitch; whether or not she will multi-stream or not. many streamers neglect VODs even though they had did it in the past before. but Rae is truly creating it for her followers. she is very thorough and careful; which I appreciate her thoughtfulness and all around care for both viewers and with her fellow streamers.
Rae will do wats right for her no matter where she goes her community will follow her
Dang that sucks twitch sucks so much wit all the adds i might end up not being a viewer anymore
honestly she did not take advantage of her streaming on youtube enough. she's been stuck at 3.98-4 million subs for 2-3 years
i thought she'd be at 5 million by now
I mean she hasn't consistently uploaded yt videos since the amigops days, has nothing to do with her streaming tbh
you KNOW youtube has to be treating them bad if EVERYONE is leaving… despite fans wanting youtube
They aren't treating them bad personally at all, it's just that youtube hasn't done enough to develop and grow their live streaming platform
Without contracts streamers will not earn much unlike in twitch
not much on treating them bad cause they got contracts signed but yt prolly just put streaming in the back of their priority list so not much development in the past 5yrs
TH-cam's main focus isn't live streaming. It's mainly about short-form and long-form content. Live-streaming goes last.
we support u anyway my Queens of you tube
Wooooo ❤
If only twitch would add instant playbackkk
Nope not going back to twitch it's a dumpster fire
It's just one step away from a pornsite I'll pass
It's one step away from a pornsite
Dang I guess these live streaming company’s really aren’t throwing big bags at these streamers no more
Damn Valkyrae was really the last ronin(TMNT) in terms of TH-cam contracted streamers.
It just goes to show that unhappy people will target anyone for anything. I've never seen any comments about Rae looking bad, but as soon as she mentioned she's been streaming for 10 years, now people in the comments are saying her age is starting to show. Some very sad people round here.
Looking forward to twitch stream again, do we get our badges back😊
I know it hurts her that TH-cam didn’t renew her contract 😅 she felt a sense of superiority when she bragged about being a TH-cam streamer … now not even ludwig can say that
Hey guys at least we have 5 years of vods to binge watch all over again Until she posts her twitch vods it aint all bad and what if she multi streams and disables yt chat like Leslie (fuslie) think about and she has a ton of money look at myth he leaked how much he got paid he got 4mil from yt so add up rae's contracts of over 5 years she will be fine for a long time and twitch will be just a side step we have yt still and she will be uploading all her twitch vods to her yt channel for us yt frogs no worries guys cheer up and enjoy the last time she's with us over here in TH-cam for one last time but we all know TH-cam will always be far more better and superior then twitch yt friends live long and prosper ✊
I guess it's gonna be youtube highlights for me.
How long ago was this really filmed ?
Can someone pretty please explain to me why she doesn’t just resign with TH-cam and stay?
Why this back and forth?
I remember her leaving Twitch and it being a huge deal, just to go back after 5 years? I’m just confusion.
TH-cam isn't resigning anyone. TH-cam is more focused on TH-cam shorts.
I hope she's not twitch exclusive
no one is twitch exclusive anymore they dont do that type of contrats
@@marioneves7039 she could choose to be though, simply by not streaming anywhere else, that's what lily and syk have done. and I'm sad about it.
I really don't understand the pros of streaming on Twitch. No playback. No rewinding. Ads every 30 minutes or so. It sucks dude.
Twitch is great for streamers. Sucks for viewers though.
More money by streaming on twitch (people are forced to buy subscriptions to make it watchable) and then uploading vods on TH-cam (more people watch vods since they didn’t want to watch twitch).
@@Deerjason they are only forced to buy subscriptions to watch if they turn on that setting i think. Fuslie doesnt do that so you can watch without being subscribed.
I just started to watch twitch again because most people moved back. Tho I really hate the ads on twitch 3:00 every hr is crazy. I will miss the loop but what can you do.
Did TH-cam like give up on expanding their streaming ???? Like they were offering contracts to streamers promising to make more changes and expand to become a legitimate streaming platform with better engagement and everything
streaming is not profitable for youtube , so they started to stop giving contract and focus more on youtube short
they fired the head of youtube gaming to cut costs and with that came the end of streaming contracts. and much innovation on the streaming side of youtube. there's no incentive for streamers to stay so they might as well move to twitch where there's a bigger community.
Ahh there goes my fav streamer to watch on youtube, I don't mind twitch but at my place the connection to watch on there compare to youtube, i'd say TH-cam >>, while on twitch I have to like see loading in between minutes but all in all, she returns to twitch after so many years which is cool !
She's gonna get a thousand subs on that first Twitch stream and be obligated to stick around.
Money is the main reason why they all go back to twitch. Without contracts yt streaming is not profitable
Wait… how much of her audience does she think is transferring to twitch?
she was originally on twitch. i'm sure 95% will follow her back there.
@@WessyD123 I'd say more like 9.5%
@@pete6099that number is way too low.
@@pete6099 i know youll be over there watching her stop playin lil boy
She will average the same amount as she does here om yt which is 7-10k
Sykkuno and leslie pretty much average the same numbers as they did on youtube.
Will she still post her stream vods tho
No twitch for me . Too many ads .. each sub $7 ..
Rae has hundreds of thousands of followers so to lose a few thousand or so won't much matter.
Higher sub cost balances out lost viewers/subs .
I'm sure TH-cam will offer her new contract.. hopefully she'll consider it.
TH-cam should have resigned here cause its easier to watch her on TH-cam.
Guys it’s ok if she streams on twitch after all if you guys see TH-cam is still the best because even though they stream on twitch thier vods there don’t last long they have to upload it TH-cam to be there longer so it’s fine…
@@rishidavesingh6904 TH-cam I's better in everyway
Guys it's fine either way, and Twitch is not even that bad, It's my first time trying it so far I'm enjoying for a week now and the sub for no ads seems fair to me... Vod channels would always be there so y'all have nothing to lose anyways 👍
It's no ads for that particular stream went to another channel and you need another subscription and don't get me wrong it's fine but getting flashed by ads every 10 minutes with 1 and half minutes ads? The worse thing is no playback son if you miss out something you gonna miss it out until they released the VOD which sometimes gonna be soundless because of DMCA
@Xygard In my perspective, I feel like the problem is you watch too many streamers... I only watch like 3-5 streamers so I never have to worry about spending too much money on subs nor where I spend my free time. Also, in TH-cam if they get DMCA the whole vod goes down the streamer has to privately download the vod to save it and according to Rae & Ludwig sometimes those vods are not save-able nor woth the risk and if they can save it, chat replay won't be saved either way which is the best part of a stream. Specially Rae's because she doesn't have chat logs in screen so if you watch her vods it's like watching a schizo for hours...
She is literally about to Thanos snap her viewership. I get that Twitch is the best platform for live streaming. But she can't expect everyone to move over. I wish her the best, though.
This is just my ramblings and thoughts but feel free to ignore them i mean what the hell do I know anyways. She has tons of friends over there and the way raids work she we will most likely just absorb many of her friends audience who already liked her but didnt like watching TH-cam. Not to mention she has a following of over million on the platform and its where she started streaming. Also do to raids she likely have a huge welcome stream with all her friends raiding into her stream boosting the fact she is on the platform. average streamer typically bigger on twitch than on TH-cam mainly because they dont have to compete with videos and shorts. But overall i think streaming on twitch is normally preferred from the streamers side better and easy moderation, more info about current streaming, more support for streaming from twitch staff, not having to worry about dmc, being able to do 24 hour streams if you please, community it more tightly nit so jokes are platform wide rather than just based on your chat and easy to read chat. I aslo heavily prefer TH-cam i hate ads but in the end whatever is best for the stream is what they should go with. I will say if anyone is to blame it would have to be TH-cam I know lud has sent lists of things he wanted added that would help bring people over that he and his community put together he even did a survey for TH-cam asking twitch streamers and TH-cam streamers what are features you would want TH-cam to add and to my knowledge TH-cam didnt add any of them and he started doing that 3 years ago. Im sure valkyrae also had meetings and mentioned things that should be changed that were never addressed either. I feel if i was in there position I would probably be just as conflicted you have been using this website for years making them money and trying to improve it and nothing is changing it would kind of feel like you were at a dead end.
She started on twitch lmao at least 75% of her viewership is going to follow her and she'll grow as well due to the visibility on twitch and all her friends being there and them cross pollinating viewers that may have never left to watch other streamers in the group that often. I won't be going to twitch unless there's no ads like Hasans stream, but I think a large chunk will follow. I'll just watch the vods.
The Twitch ads are unbearable. They don't seem to understand that we're okay with some ads but the amount of ads and how often they play it is what everyone is complaining about.
Hey, Twitch has better mods, that's all I'm saying. So chat can be kept under control! Woo! I'll follow her on any platform!
Twitch is the only thing i saw live streaming platform where instead live chat its live emote, emote every single second only 1 or 2 real chat is just annoying plus its so bad for viewers all around quality nope not gonna touch it maybe tune in once or twice but judt wait for a VOD if she upload it 🙂
She’s the only one I’d go back to twitch for 🤷🏻♀️ and I hate twitch lol
It's sad that her time on TH-cam is ending but she's doing what she thinks is best. Time to make a twitch account
All these streamers just got a massive pay cut
because they won't stream on youtube without a contract and you can gain more money on twitch than youtube if you have a big audience
Eww twitch 🤮 I deleted twitch because the every 15 minutes of 9 different ads I’m good
Welp, I guess I'm a strictly vod viewer now. No way I'm supporting Twitch.
God bless everyone and be happy....... especially the old woman 👍
Twitch peak was years ago ( now twitch loosing millions of views, down 70% of ads recently, More toxicity, etc) Yt is raising up from watchers to live now. More ppl know yt (ask your parents what is twitch) lol. More ads, way more tools for chatters (ai mod, anti botter, and history when mods change streamers title etc etc. I'm glad i'm on yt my views been going up compared when on twitch during peak ninja times. I'm in more countries even S korea and Th. (ya twitch ya). I know why some top ppl are ditching contract but can't say. Think $
The main issue is streaming will always be a second priority to TH-cam thus a lot of suggestions that her and Ludwig are pretty much ignored(even more so with this new president, look him up).
I feel like it's the opposite, it seems more like Twitch is slowly becoming mainstream now. I worked at a mini mart near a school, highschool students that looks like they were too young for Twitch come in watching Clix, Kai, Nmplol, & others... On their phones.
You can still earn twice more in twitch than yt. Without contracts yt streaming is ass for streamers. Of course you will choose where the money is. That is the right move
@@cassiel_07I what can you do if the only thing to entertain you is internet even TV is suck now and ofc they would know twitch if the use a bit of tiktok it's gonna be mentioned there and they got curious so yeah
I thought kick is supposed to be the future? 😂
They don't sign known scammers
they wouldn't sign off on her blue light product
@@rozburg but they sign off on rapist, nazis, pedophiles, homophobes, and other scammers? interesting
@@smoke14winsliterally everyone on kick is scamming lol
@@smoke14wins Do people really think she tried to scam on purpose or is this a joke lol.
TH-cam doesn't care about its streaming service, WCYD. They didn't update one new interactive function in like 3 years. Like the fan-made emojis, the 'gamba,' viewers voting, even the hype train on Twitch gives viewers a lot more to do while watching. Compare that to YT; what is the last time that they made something new and fun to improve your viewing experience?
Im the 17th comment 😀
People can't accept their favorite streamer is "a bit" greedy
Stop complaining about nothing...... like how boring
Your getting old Valkyrae, it shows on your face. Is that why your jealous of katchi?
Danm her age is starting to show. Aunt status
I bet you don’t look half as decent as her. I bet you look just like that mutt you got as your profile picture.
same makeup artist as pokimane
never watched a single stream of this person
Why going back to twitch, that is so mainstream to me