I mean the Lions were also missing some guys too, had a couple key drops on third downs and had to go against the refs letting KC stretch the rules past the limit to say the least.
Right!! They are making it sound like CHIEFS had B team in and LIONS were using Barry sanders. Dick riders. Just bc tehy ALLLL picked Chiefs to win and they look silly
The Lions grind it out for a win is exactly the quality they now have. And it is a reflection of the changed nature of the entire Lions organization. They may have been fortunate to get the win against the Chiefs but they ultimately sealed the deal. They now have it in them. It will be interesting to see how far they can go this year.
The Lions showed that they were more of a complete team. If two of your stars go out your team can't just fall apart. And the Chiefs kind of fell apart the second half.
@mark-fm2pp lol if the refs were trying to hand the chiefs the win why would they call donovan smith for holding late in the game on a key play that picked up good yardage for the chiefs? You guys will complain about the refs no matter what. Little babies
Defensive wizards are relegated to being defensive coordinators in this new nfl. Patriots need a really good qb or offensive coordinator to stay relevant and they should really start investing in their wide receiver room
@@jd3thegreatThe O-line played well against a great D-line while missing two starters. There were schemed up open throws too. At this point, it’s just WR
@@jd3thegreatlol they didn't allow a sack til like the 4th quarter with 2 backup guards in there. Idk what you are smoking. Pats always figure out the OL situation
Tannehill deff made mistakes but wish they highlighted the Saints defense more. D Line got pressure, Henry had a big first half but was stalled to 12 yards in the 2nd half, Marshon Lattimore looked dominant. Also there was a big missed PI on Olave that costed the Saints points
Hello from the UK. Iv only recently really got into NFL (always love rugby) i started listening to you guys end of last season and iv found you guys explain your opinions on teams and plays so well I actually understand most of what your saying😅 haha this season iam listening and watching hard! Seems alot of hate on the chats. I understand its opinions but that's the fun of it. I have alabama relatives and therefore began following titans this was about 3 years ago now.... I know they're not up thier in with the best but I'd love to hear more about your views etc with them. Keep informing me guys loving it❤
Well done Steve, you picked the Raiders for a win. You're always fair to the Raiders. I'm not a fan of Mcdaniels as HC, Renfrow was open on several plays but not targeted! The TE's were only targeted once! Sam the Raiders O Line is better than you think.
I'm glad you guys mentioned the 4th down failed trick play by KC. That was rough to watch. And yes, they do need to figure out 4th and short situations with Mahomes. Brady is different but i feel like with Brady 9 times out of 10 thats a 1st down.
You point out the 4th down fails for the Jags, but the Colts had a 1st and goal 2 different times where they came away with 0 points. I thought both teams looked good. But Richardson is just young and developing.
Had Jalen Carter around 4 sacks this year but after seeing him he could easily get 8+. Can not believe so many teams passed on this guy, especially the bears who's Interior D-line is terrible.
Titans break down was perfect. Only thing I would add was a completely missed DPI on the Saints against Chris Moore that would have put them in the redzone. Of course, it was another bad mistake by Tannehill to even throw it (had Chig wide open a few yards in front of Moore) but no doubt should have been DPI.
Burrow bad performance: rain. DWat shakey performance: Not his old self. Face it, the Browns have Cincy's number. Burrow is 1-5 against the Dawg Pound fellas
Wait. How is Burrow's performance only due to the rain but Watson who was playing in the same conditions not attributed to the rain? That's some serious reaching.
really attributing burrows performance to the rain? dw4 and burrow were in the same conditions and meanwhile only one of them actually was able to adjust and be productive
Again, Watson didn’t all of a sudden lose his accuracy or arm strength. It was likely a mix of the rain, wind and some timing issues. He should improve throughout the season in general as well. I do think he should’ve performed better than he did, even in those conditions, but I think it’s all stuff that’s fixable. He wasn’t rattled, confused, or unable to see the field. Just kept under throwing guys, consistently under throwing them. There might be some confidence issues still too. We’ll know more as the season goes on.
@@josephkingsley8708 true. the good thing was he was able to see the reads. the combination of week 1 jitters, the weather, and rust just didn't work out in the end
I think your take on purdy is off. You talk about him like he’s a finished product or someone who won’t continually improve. He will never become a brady but I remember Brady’s critics saying he’s being carried by his defense in his early years (which was true). Then he kept improving. I see a lot of similarities with purdy. Clearly he’s improved since being drafted and it feels like you guys are putting a cap on where he can eventually end up. I see a guy who’s improving at a faster pace than any late draft qb I’ve ever seen. Niners obviously see it or else they wouldn’t have dumped a super high pick qb so quickly. Has there ever been a qb picked that high that was dumped so fast? That says a lot about purdy. And btw I’m not a niners fan. I despise them and most of their fans.
Agree. People that gave Jimmy G credit for "being a winner" and now are crapping on Purdy must not watch the games. Purdy just knows what he's doing out there. Also, this is coming from a Rams fan.
Bryce Youngs issue is to get the ball over the middle of the field he needs to release the ball at a different angle than a 6'4 guy. this causes the ball to sail or hang longer than it should over the middle of the field
The way the broke down KC and said 5 words about Detroit is why no one likes pff everyone said how the lions had to win it but they wouldn’t… when they do despite having two guys out that would be high contributors it means nothing people flakey with their takes
1:33:10 the back judge cannot see the hit behind the line from where he is standing. To him it looked like just an incomplete pass, he had no reason to swallow the whistle from his vantage point.
Orlando brown is average at best. As a Chief's fan I was excited when we landed him. It became clear, very quickly, that he was never going to hold up against any decent pass rushers. He constantly had to have help and couldn't be left on an island. Going to be real interesting to see if Burrow can escape the pressure he gives up all year
i hate the raiders, especially their delusional fanbase. But i dont see why u need to get Renfroe involved? Jakobi went off, so whats the difference if u cut his production in half and give the other half to Renfroe? Same result
@@blessembreaks it's always better to have more receivers involved, that's not even questionable. it's great that myers stepped up in this game but their offense got lucky that it was enough (thanks in large part to the defense). in a game where josh jacobs only had about 50 rush yards on just 2.5 ypc and jimmy g with around 200 yards passing, it would've been nice to see renfroe involved in 3-wr sets from the slot.
@@nopeteys2424 those throws were only late and bad because of the weather in my opinion. He was slipping while stepping into throws and the ball was really heavy. He still outplayed the 2nd best qb in the league by a lot.
This may be a tired cliche, but the MIA O is a team effort. McDaniel scheming speed open. OL making blocks. Tua quickly reading the field and delivering the most accurate and catchable ball in the NFL. Hill & Co. reaching their spot and catching the ball in stride. Hill is scarier in this O than @KC.
Dude is harping on the fumble recovery by the titans. Ok yes the ref screwed up but he's not saying shit about the blatant PI late in the game that would have put new orleans at the 2 yard line.
My question is why did they say the jags game shouldn't have been that close and went on to give them excuses? The colts offense drove down to scoring range 3 times (2 4th down fails, 1 fumble). And to say Richardson looked okay and Lawrence sharp is baffling when this podcast loves mentioning turnover worthy plays which Lawrence had a dropped int would've been 2 int on the day plus fumble
Honestly I think Russ played really well. Got the ball to his players in space problem is when the Broncos has Jeudy and Dulcich out they have one of the least athletic receiving cores in the NFL. Also put the team in scoring position on 66% of their drives... they only had 6 drives
Absolute joke. I’m sick and tired of people not mentioning that Detroit was down CB2 and Jameson Williams whatever he is going to be. PFF continues to hate the Lions. Clowns
Williams has one catch in his career. Not quite the same thing as the best TE in history and arguably the most impactful defensive player in the league. Regardless, if not for a flukey tipped pick-6, they probably don't win the game. Good win though, just be happy.
Giants never establish the ground game with Barkley and the other backs with duel Tight ends and other heavy type run packages they basically played into the Cowboys hands. The Cowboys didn't have an answer for Waller and any one of the Giant's wideouts can out run the Cowboy defense for deep passes after pounding them with the ground game. I know it was raining but that is why it's back to basics and the Giants failed...
The Giants struggled to run or pass because they couldn't block anyone up front. I don't know that they were giving DJ more than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball, and I don't think there were many plays Barkley wasn't hit behind the line. Too many quick screens that got the reciever absolutely walloped too.
@@Vo1kfang; Exactly why I stated that above. Being a fast defense the Giants needed to force the Cowboys into a different game by forcing the run almost in a similar way the Titans play will slow them down then throwing off of it. Cowboys have no one that could run with many of the Giant receivers and no answer for Waller. Giants should work with the OL not against. I remember the Bears would bring the "Fridge"(DT) in to play fullback for Walter Payton. Other teams at time would bring extra linemen to play TE. The Giants need to have that kind of mentality and be more aggressive with their blocking scheme...
play Bijon that much and youre going to lose him quicker than you should. Allgier should play almost half the snaps, he still makes plays even if not as dynamic and it will extend Bijons career. if they used him like you want hed be burnt out in 3yrs
Mcdaniels does nor seem to know about using screens either. An alternative if the run is difficult. Keeps defenses off balance. Mcdaniels was too predictable.
Yes, because Week 1 is Week 1. Burrow threw 4 INTs week 1 of last season and went on to win the division, hence why he might just be shaky this week. Deshaun Watson looked bad, just like he looked bad last season, so his abilities aren’t getting better and it seems more likely that he isn’t his old self
@@RekchaBurrow was 14/31 for 82 yards. Watson went 16/29 for 154 yards. 2 more completed passes, 2 less attempts, nearly double the yards. Burrow looked bad for the conditions even, Watson looked serviceable for the conditions. You're just an idiot.
Titans O-line is bad but Tannehill is straight garbage. Missed two wide open players that woulda scored and continued to be so indecisive when the pocket collapsed, held onto the ball way too long. Dude is cooked
@@blessembreaks I’ll be the first to admit that I thought he deserved to play the last year of his contract but yeah, yesterday was ugly. Holding onto the ball too long has always been his biggest problem in my opinion
Revenge of the Nerds grades football gave Aidan Hutchinson a 66. Without looking at stats or anything my brain (or the eye test) would sum it up like this he played almost every play terrorized Mahomes into some iffy throws and by the amount of double/triple teams he appeared to get id say KC's entire gameplan was built with him in mind Some people want you to think that they know something you dont so you need to pay for their info.
PFF Guy: Running Backs don't matter, they're a result of the O Line and are easily replaced Same PFF Guy: The Colts need Jonathan Taylor back because Dion Jackson isn't getting it done...😂
You guys really undersold how good the Patriots looked: if they look as good next week against the Dolphins as they did yesterday, they just might be back.
Nah, I think Steve got it right. After I did my own research on all the teams I watched this to see if I could get any more info and it was well covered. Patriots Defense.
U did not once mention Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson. But u made excuses for burrow. 😢 this is not a legit show.u ppl who keep denying true talent are on the wrong side of Great football. This national media whole Bias thing toward Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson Sucks .u guys are starting to smell really bad. U not going to give him his credit. Cleveland Browns are going to take it.
@@EuthanizePitbulls The quality of the show was awful the hate is going to elevate stay tune. Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson is the the real deal He has tapped into his NFL Charisma.every one knows it especially the haters an nae sayer.
@@EuthanizePitbulls lol Joe expected to play great he played awful well good for him. we talking bout Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson. I hated Joe got hurt. Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson does not need to prove anything he is about to tap into his NFL Charisma. Please keep watching ma'am Sir. With Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson Greatness Cleveland Browns Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson doe not have to do it all nomore. With Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson great football has a chance to be televised. with Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson great Football will be played in the National Football legue
That dumb pi by Jackson doesn’t even happen if Staley doesn’t make the dumb mistake of calling a timeout with like 12 second remaining at half on 4th down. Herbert even slid inbounds so they can settle for a last second field goal. Chargers will regret not firing Staley last year and hiring Payton.
I agree the Chargers will and should regret hiring Staley, but it was actually Miami who called the timeout. McDaniel is by far the superior coach. Staley is probably a nice guy, but inept as a coach.
@@sy12 You're probably right, but I thought the commentators initially thought it was Staley who called the TO but then mentioned it was actually Miami.
37:00 saying colts should MOVE on from Alec Pierce 1 game into 2nd season. Rookie yr he had 41rec 593yds 2TDs - Reggie Wayne Rookie year 27 345 0TDs - Reggie’s 2nd year 49 716 4TDs. That was with PEYTON. Alec had elderly Matt Ryan and some other dudes. Maybe slow down before u say things
The moment Sam said Zay would be no more than a gimmick and a likely bust. This told me immediately he knows nothing about football talent. That's why him and Steve miss so much on qbs. They just don't have an eye for recognizing ballers.
I disagree when you say that detroit stafford was elite for a three game stretch per year. As a lions fan in his late 20s, I have watched every game in Stafford’s career. Stafford was one of the most sacked qbs every single year and had to deal with playing with fractured fingers, shoulder issues, and back issues. Watch any of the seasons where he didn’t deal with a lingering fracture. He was elite throughout. Both of stafford’s years with the rams, you could visibly see that he wasn’t the same as his elite lions years. If he is truly healthy this season, the rams are nfc contenders for sure.
I stumbled upon your channel today. Your Titans/Saints game analysis seems like it came from a sore loser not an objective analysis. Failure to ention the epic performance of the Saints D's contribution to the win does quite a disservice to my Saints. Also, you failed to mention the noncall on the Olave mugging near the goal line while whinning about the poor referee play. Not cool guys! ⚜️⚜️⚜️
sam on purdy; "i dont know if hes that good" dude... purdy is special. ive seen enough of him. hes a star qb. he has everything u want in a qb apart from size and arm talent. the kid is like brady
Insulting to Brady. I do think Purdy is exactly as Sam described him. A great fit in that current offense who can add value on top of it. It's why I always thought Mac Jones would've been taken by the 49ers instead of Trey Lance.
So, thought experiment: Take a random NFL team. Trade the QB, Best Offensive Player, and Best Defensive Player for Patrick Mahomes. Out of 10, how many games do they lose to the Lions? If the Lions ‘should be’ beating the Chiefs then that number has to be like 7 or 8.
Steve and Sam: Aidan Hutchinson should have had 12 sacks that game! even if Travis Kelce DID PLAY the LIONS WOULD HAVE WON…IFFFFF THE CHIEFS DIDNT FALSE START DURING THE WHOLE GAME …until the 2 minute warning in the 4th quart is when the refs finally called them on it. there are TH-cam channels that show ALL of those false starts. Just in case you need help seeing that analyst to help your analyst. It’s not your fault. All analysts look the other way on bad penalty or non penalty calls by the refs for big fancy teams when they play the Lions. HOW DO YOU BRING UP EXCUSES FOR THE CHIEFS AND NOT CALL THEM OUT FOR 2 dozen false starts that were allowed for Mahomes to win by the refs. If the Lions false started that many times against the Chiefs THEN WOULD YOU BRING IT UP? We would have won against Even Kelce ONLY IF the refs are not picking sides. Maybe sharpen your analyst skill set is all I’m saying
Exactly lol. Sam is terribleee if the team is bad or mediocre. But if they have a modicum of success he actually does his research and explain things like how Tyson Cambell actually baited Richardson into an interception rather than it just being a bad read. Shit is unprofessional.
Sorry, gonna have a hard time putting timeaside to follow your show. Sam's analysis just doesn't reflect what was on tape for the games I watched yesterday. Piss poor actually.
Oh my god stfu. Actin like the Chiefs didn’t get any penalties called again them? Yeah Jawaan Taylor left early, literally ask and tackle in the nfl if they can get away with it, theyre gonna do the same thing. If Kadarius Toney doesn’t hand the Lions a pick 6 the chiefs win. But i get it the Lions are gonna celebrate this like they won the superbowl. Every time the chiefs win you guys cry about the refs
@cj7139 a target is if he's the "intended reciever". So long as the QB is throwing at you, even if the ball is poorly thrown, it's counted as a target. So Trevor threw the ball at Calvin 11 times and Calvin was able to catch 8 of those passes.
I mean the Lions were also missing some guys too, had a couple key drops on third downs and had to go against the refs letting KC stretch the rules past the limit to say the least.
Marvin Jones had the worst game of his career. Oldest WR in the NFL and had his FIRST career fumble plus drops.
Right!! They are making it sound like CHIEFS had B team in and LIONS were using Barry sanders. Dick riders. Just bc tehy ALLLL picked Chiefs to win and they look silly
This podcast and The Athletic Football Show are perfect for fans that aren't into the whole "Yelling Shows" bit. Thoughtful analysis as always 🤘
The Lions grind it out for a win is exactly the quality they now have. And it is a reflection of the changed nature of the entire Lions organization. They may have been fortunate to get the win against the Chiefs but they ultimately sealed the deal. They now have it in them. It will be interesting to see how far they can go this year.
The Lions showed that they were more of a complete team. If two of your stars go out your team can't just fall apart. And the Chiefs kind of fell apart the second half.
Kadarius Toney handed them the win on a silver platter
@@nopeteys2424and Marvin Jones Jr. tried to hand it to the Chiefs.
@mark-fm2pp lol if the refs were trying to hand the chiefs the win why would they call donovan smith for holding late in the game on a key play that picked up good yardage for the chiefs? You guys will complain about the refs no matter what. Little babies
Don't forget that Love sat and learned behind Rodgers for 3 years. That grooming process helped him with his poise and preparation.
Big difference was Rodgers wasn't a dick to his replacement like Favre was to Rodgers so that helps.
If the Patriots could actually finish one of these comebacks, that would be great. But, wow, Belichick is still a defensive wizard
Defensive wizards are relegated to being defensive coordinators in this new nfl. Patriots need a really good qb or offensive coordinator to stay relevant and they should really start investing in their wide receiver room
@@AliasAceingitOC, WR, and OLine are much bigger issues than Mac to me. He can be in that Kirk Cousins range with the right pieces around him.
@@AliasAceingitThey have a good OC. And they’ve invested in the WR room. Just not high in the draft
@@jd3thegreatThe O-line played well against a great D-line while missing two starters. There were schemed up open throws too. At this point, it’s just WR
@@jd3thegreatlol they didn't allow a sack til like the 4th quarter with 2 backup guards in there. Idk what you are smoking. Pats always figure out the OL situation
Stafford was on another level. Sheesh some of those throws. Still has it
He just wasnt injured. This is him not injured.
Always has. He just has old man bones sometimes.
hE'S SOO MUCH BETTER THAN gENO sMITH~
Enough hearing about Toney’s drops, Marvin Jones for the Lions had three drops too and a fumble.
Tannehill deff made mistakes but wish they highlighted the Saints defense more. D Line got pressure, Henry had a big first half but was stalled to 12 yards in the 2nd half, Marshon Lattimore looked dominant. Also there was a big missed PI on Olave that costed the Saints points
Love the Team By Team. Football/Fantasy Breakdowns! Love to hear like Snap %/ target share of sum Impact guys!
Christian Watson was missing and the Packers still drug the Bears. If they can stay healthy they can rival the Lions for the Crown for the NFC North.
Lmao y’all played the Bears who has no defense or offense. Good lord.
Hello from the UK. Iv only recently really got into NFL (always love rugby) i started listening to you guys end of last season and iv found you guys explain your opinions on teams and plays so well I actually understand most of what your saying😅 haha this season iam listening and watching hard! Seems alot of hate on the chats. I understand its opinions but that's the fun of it. I have alabama relatives and therefore began following titans this was about 3 years ago now.... I know they're not up thier in with the best but I'd love to hear more about your views etc with them. Keep informing me guys loving it❤
Well done Steve, you picked the Raiders for a win. You're always fair to the Raiders. I'm not a fan of Mcdaniels as HC, Renfrow was open on several plays but not targeted! The TE's were only targeted once! Sam the Raiders O Line is better than you think.
I'm glad you guys mentioned the 4th down failed trick play by KC. That was rough to watch. And yes, they do need to figure out 4th and short situations with Mahomes. Brady is different but i feel like with Brady 9 times out of 10 thats a 1st down.
He was the king of QB sneak
You point out the 4th down fails for the Jags, but the Colts had a 1st and goal 2 different times where they came away with 0 points. I thought both teams looked good. But Richardson is just young and developing.
I caught that as well. Colts 1-5 on 4th down. Jags only 1-3.
Had Jalen Carter around 4 sacks this year but after seeing him he could easily get 8+. Can not believe so many teams passed on this guy, especially the bears who's Interior D-line is terrible.
Yeah, I think double digits is a good lock. Especially since they can't double team him due to our other pash rushers...
Titans break down was perfect. Only thing I would add was a completely missed DPI on the Saints against Chris Moore that would have put them in the redzone. Of course, it was another bad mistake by Tannehill to even throw it (had Chig wide open a few yards in front of Moore) but no doubt should have been DPI.
Dennis “The Barbarian” Gardeck having the 2nd highest Pass rushing grade is phenomenal
Against a dog shit Washington offensive line 🙄
It is so weird that GB is the only team we've seen beat the double-tush-push. Beating Fields and Hurts on em.
Still making excuses for Orlando Brown Jr. huh? lmao. Enjoy him Cincy, don't say we didn't warn ya.
Burrow bad performance: rain. DWat shakey performance: Not his old self. Face it, the Browns have Cincy's number. Burrow is 1-5 against the Dawg Pound fellas
Wait. How is Burrow's performance only due to the rain but Watson who was playing in the same conditions not attributed to the rain? That's some serious reaching.
@@sasquatchsenpaiWatson wasn’t great, but had more chances to run offense, since the bengals offense didn’t do a thing all game.
really attributing burrows performance to the rain? dw4 and burrow were in the same conditions and meanwhile only one of them actually was able to adjust and be productive
Again, Watson didn’t all of a sudden lose his accuracy or arm strength. It was likely a mix of the rain, wind and some timing issues. He should improve throughout the season in general as well. I do think he should’ve performed better than he did, even in those conditions, but I think it’s all stuff that’s fixable. He wasn’t rattled, confused, or unable to see the field. Just kept under throwing guys, consistently under throwing them. There might be some confidence issues still too. We’ll know more as the season goes on.
@@josephkingsley8708 true. the good thing was he was able to see the reads. the combination of week 1 jitters, the weather, and rust just didn't work out in the end
I think your take on purdy is off. You talk about him like he’s a finished product or someone who won’t continually improve. He will never become a brady but I remember Brady’s critics saying he’s being carried by his defense in his early years (which was true). Then he kept improving. I see a lot of similarities with purdy. Clearly he’s improved since being drafted and it feels like you guys are putting a cap on where he can eventually end up. I see a guy who’s improving at a faster pace than any late draft qb I’ve ever seen. Niners obviously see it or else they wouldn’t have dumped a super high pick qb so quickly. Has there ever been a qb picked that high that was dumped so fast? That says a lot about purdy.
And btw I’m not a niners fan. I despise them and most of their fans.
Agree. People that gave Jimmy G credit for "being a winner" and now are crapping on Purdy must not watch the games. Purdy just knows what he's doing out there. Also, this is coming from a Rams fan.
@@TempeLane11552lol same here…rams fan.
Bryce Youngs issue is to get the ball over the middle of the field he needs to release the ball at a different angle than a 6'4 guy. this causes the ball to sail or hang longer than it should over the middle of the field
How can I get these throwing charts and other deep dive stats that Steve & Sam keep referring to?
Really enjoyed the show
The way the broke down KC and said 5 words about Detroit is why no one likes pff everyone said how the lions had to win it but they wouldn’t… when they do despite having two guys out that would be high contributors it means nothing people flakey with their takes
these are two of the biggest egos you could find lol, the arrogance of these two would be elite off they own charts
1:33:10 the back judge cannot see the hit behind the line from where he is standing. To him it looked like just an incomplete pass, he had no reason to swallow the whistle from his vantage point.
Cinncy fans watching the end like a campfire flashlight horror story 😂
Orlando brown is average at best. As a Chief's fan I was excited when we landed him. It became clear, very quickly, that he was never going to hold up against any decent pass rushers. He constantly had to have help and couldn't be left on an island. Going to be real interesting to see if Burrow can escape the pressure he gives up all year
Campbell said they’re giving Gibbs more touches now they just wanted to get his feet wet in week one
Cj stats actually was better under pressure compared to a clean pocket.
How you can't download this video for the train ride?
The Orlando brown glaze is crazy
Raiders need to get Hunter Renfroe involved. Zero targets for a guy who had over 100 receptions a couple seasons ago is unforgivable.
i hate the raiders, especially their delusional fanbase. But i dont see why u need to get Renfroe involved? Jakobi went off, so whats the difference if u cut his production in half and give the other half to Renfroe? Same result
@@blessembreaks it's always better to have more receivers involved, that's not even questionable. it's great that myers stepped up in this game but their offense got lucky that it was enough (thanks in large part to the defense). in a game where josh jacobs only had about 50 rush yards on just 2.5 ypc and jimmy g with around 200 yards passing, it would've been nice to see renfroe involved in 3-wr sets from the slot.
The Seahawks have no pass rush thats why the Rams O-line looked good.
Indeed. Rams had 40 rushes for 92 yards with Matt Stafford having the highest YPC with 3.7
Could be, we'll have to see if the Oline is bad even if SEA didnt have a good rush.
They spent 10minutes talking about a browns rookie in order to avoid taking about Watson lol. They will kill thekseleves if browns keep winning
They talked about dawand jones for like 2 minutes 😭
Deshaun looked bad for most the game. Really inaccurate throws and late throws
@@nopeteys2424 those throws were only late and bad because of the weather in my opinion. He was slipping while stepping into throws and the ball was really heavy. He still outplayed the 2nd best qb in the league by a lot.
Deshaun looks great
browns will brown 😂
Lesson learn for you guys, don’t trust preseason…
This may be a tired cliche, but the MIA O is a team effort. McDaniel scheming speed open. OL making blocks. Tua quickly reading the field and delivering the most accurate and catchable ball in the NFL. Hill & Co. reaching their spot and catching the ball in stride. Hill is scarier in this O than @KC.
Dude is harping on the fumble recovery by the titans. Ok yes the ref screwed up but he's not saying shit about the blatant PI late in the game that would have put new orleans at the 2 yard line.
I was shocked by his terrific play.
How about your Steelers Sam !!
Not a fhins fan but man that offence is the Best on 🔥 1st week Tua n Reek they r scaryyyyy 😅😅😅😅
My question is why did they say the jags game shouldn't have been that close and went on to give them excuses? The colts offense drove down to scoring range 3 times (2 4th down fails, 1 fumble). And to say Richardson looked okay and Lawrence sharp is baffling when this podcast loves mentioning turnover worthy plays which Lawrence had a dropped int would've been 2 int on the day plus fumble
Honestly I think Russ played really well. Got the ball to his players in space problem is when the Broncos has Jeudy and Dulcich out they have one of the least athletic receiving cores in the NFL. Also put the team in scoring position on 66% of their drives... they only had 6 drives
It was like the chargers defense never played a game before
In their defense they were going up against the #1 rated passer from last year and the Cheetah.
@@ericstorm5285 who they held to a sub 200 yards with half their starters. Inexcusable
lol staley going to be canned this year
Lions was miss our stretch the field receiver Williams plus corner Mosley no excuses 0-7 in second half is what it is good D
Giants right side of the O-line was absolutely putrid. Disrupted the run game and DJ had no pocket at all. Made Dallas backup DL’s look All-World.
Absolute joke. I’m sick and tired of people not mentioning that Detroit was down CB2 and Jameson Williams whatever he is going to be. PFF continues to hate the Lions. Clowns
Williams has one catch in his career. Not quite the same thing as the best TE in history and arguably the most impactful defensive player in the league. Regardless, if not for a flukey tipped pick-6, they probably don't win the game. Good win though, just be happy.
Giants never establish the ground game with Barkley and the other backs with duel Tight ends and other heavy type run packages they basically played into the Cowboys hands. The Cowboys didn't have an answer for Waller and any one of the Giant's wideouts can out run the Cowboy defense for deep passes after pounding them with the ground game. I know it was raining but that is why it's back to basics and the Giants failed...
The Giants struggled to run or pass because they couldn't block anyone up front. I don't know that they were giving DJ more than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball, and I don't think there were many plays Barkley wasn't hit behind the line. Too many quick screens that got the reciever absolutely walloped too.
@@Vo1kfang; Exactly why I stated that above. Being a fast defense the Giants needed to force the Cowboys into a different game by forcing the run almost in a similar way the Titans play will slow them down then throwing off of it. Cowboys have no one that could run with many of the Giant receivers and no answer for Waller.
Giants should work with the OL not against.
I remember the Bears would bring the "Fridge"(DT) in to play fullback for Walter Payton. Other teams at time would bring extra linemen to play TE. The Giants need to have that kind of mentality and be more aggressive with their blocking scheme...
play Bijon that much and youre going to lose him quicker than you should. Allgier should play almost half the snaps, he still makes plays even if not as dynamic and it will extend Bijons career. if they used him like you want hed be burnt out in 3yrs
The Titans are the example of why starter need to play the preseason
The vikes had like 200 more yards on offense and 6 yards per play vs 3.5 vs the bucks and lost
Well when your bum ass QB causes 3 turnovers, 2 in the red zone, you ain’t winning.
why compete with gmf? why would you want to be watered down mass appeal?
Yes, happy Tyler indeed!! 🎉
Mcdaniels does nor seem to know about using screens either. An alternative if the run is difficult. Keeps defenses off balance. Mcdaniels was too predictable.
Watch TLawerence fit passes in extremely tight windows
Rams held like every play
Cleveland is Cleveland, right? 😏
Yes, because Week 1 is Week 1. Burrow threw 4 INTs week 1 of last season and went on to win the division, hence why he might just be shaky this week. Deshaun Watson looked bad, just like he looked bad last season, so his abilities aren’t getting better and it seems more likely that he isn’t his old self
@Rekcha what?? Both teams played in the same conditions. Just be honest and say you don't like him bc of off field shit 😂
@@RekchaBurrow was 14/31 for 82 yards. Watson went 16/29 for 154 yards. 2 more completed passes, 2 less attempts, nearly double the yards. Burrow looked bad for the conditions even, Watson looked serviceable for the conditions. You're just an idiot.
@@Rekchatipped interception and bad weather for throwing. He was still 10x better than Burrow
@@draimonshepherd1791I have no idea what you were reading but it certainly wasn’t my comment
Put respect on the colts defense it’s not that th jags didn’t play good we defended great
The Titans had their issues but the refs were absolute garbage in this game. Barring injuries, our DLINE is going to be a MONSTER!!
Titans O-line is bad but Tannehill is straight garbage. Missed two wide open players that woulda scored and continued to be so indecisive when the pocket collapsed, held onto the ball way too long. Dude is cooked
@@blessembreaks I’ll be the first to admit that I thought he deserved to play the last year of his contract but yeah, yesterday was ugly. Holding onto the ball too long has always been his biggest problem in my opinion
Did this guy watch the jags game? Trevor was under pressure like all game
Revenge of the Nerds grades football gave Aidan Hutchinson a 66.
Without looking at stats or anything my brain (or the eye test) would sum it up like this
he played almost every play
terrorized Mahomes into some iffy throws
and by the amount of double/triple teams he appeared to get id say KC's entire gameplan was built with him in mind
Some people want you to think that they know something you dont so you need to pay for their info.
PFF Guy: Running Backs don't matter, they're a result of the O Line and are easily replaced
Same PFF Guy: The Colts need Jonathan Taylor back because Dion Jackson isn't getting it done...😂
You guys really undersold how good the Patriots looked: if they look as good next week against the Dolphins as they did yesterday, they just might be back.
Nah, I think Steve got it right. After I did my own research on all the teams I watched this to see if I could get any more info and it was well covered. Patriots Defense.
U did not once mention Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson. But u made excuses for burrow. 😢 this is not a legit show.u ppl who keep denying true talent are on the wrong side of Great football. This national media whole Bias thing toward Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson Sucks .u guys are starting to smell really bad. U not going to give him his credit. Cleveland Browns are going to take it.
Watson wasn't worth mentioning. He was expected to play okay and he played okay. Burrow is expected to play great and played awful.
@@EuthanizePitbulls The quality of the show was awful the hate is going to elevate stay tune. Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson is the the real deal He has tapped into his NFL Charisma.every one knows it especially the haters an nae sayer.
@@EuthanizePitbulls lol Joe expected to play great he played awful well good for him. we talking bout Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson. I hated Joe got hurt. Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson does not need to prove anything he is about to tap into his NFL Charisma. Please keep watching ma'am Sir. With Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson Greatness Cleveland Browns Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson doe not have to do it all nomore. With Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson great football has a chance to be televised. with Deshaun Jiu-Jitsu Watson great Football will be played in the National Football legue
Do I trade Hockenson and Pierce for rhamondre and kittle?? Full PPR
Probably. You'd be getting 2 guys that figure to spend a lot more time in the red zone IMO.
I could show at least 5 holding calls on NO that the refs missed.
Facts
The NFL is very suspect. I am starting to believe that it's fixed.
@@Kacee2in hope of what outcome?
@@DemWhoDatBaae to keep you glued to the Game.
No one has scored more then 20 since week 11 for the Packers D
That dumb pi by Jackson doesn’t even happen if Staley doesn’t make the dumb mistake of calling a timeout with like 12 second remaining at half on 4th down. Herbert even slid inbounds so they can settle for a last second field goal. Chargers will regret not firing Staley last year and hiring Payton.
I agree the Chargers will and should regret hiring Staley, but it was actually Miami who called the timeout. McDaniel is by far the superior coach. Staley is probably a nice guy, but inept as a coach.
@@James-100telecast said chargers called it. Maybe they made a mistake. It would definitely make sense if Miami took it in case fg was missed.
@@sy12 You're probably right, but I thought the commentators initially thought it was Staley who called the TO but then mentioned it was actually Miami.
I love these guys…I guess I’m the idiot.
Brandon staley has to go
he will this year 😂
Tua didnt drop those snaps bud. Connor williams has been an issue big time
37:00 saying colts should MOVE on from Alec Pierce 1 game into 2nd season. Rookie yr he had 41rec 593yds 2TDs - Reggie Wayne Rookie year 27 345 0TDs - Reggie’s 2nd year 49 716 4TDs. That was with PEYTON. Alec had elderly Matt Ryan and some other dudes. Maybe slow down before u say things
I really like pff but you guys get off topic and ramble too much and too often, it makes it difficult to watch at times.
Da Bears...
The moment Sam said Zay would be no more than a gimmick and a likely bust. This told me immediately he knows nothing about football talent. That's why him and Steve miss so much on qbs. They just don't have an eye for recognizing ballers.
"Miss so much" other than Baker, which guys have they truly missed on?
Did Sam drop a bunch of money this weekend? He's always gloomy, but unusually so today.
Washington loses by more than two touchdowns if K1 is playing. Washington fans should not be happy with that win.
Here comes mad fans of each team because you didn't shower their team with compliments or explain how they're gonna win the superbowl this year.
Joe beat the browns last year btw 22:31
Dobbins doesn't have a contract either. I think his career might be done.
that's a high praise for Jalen carter "maybe already a top 3 pass rushing DT"
I disagree when you say that detroit stafford was elite for a three game stretch per year. As a lions fan in his late 20s, I have watched every game in Stafford’s career. Stafford was one of the most sacked qbs every single year and had to deal with playing with fractured fingers, shoulder issues, and back issues. Watch any of the seasons where he didn’t deal with a lingering fracture. He was elite throughout. Both of stafford’s years with the rams, you could visibly see that he wasn’t the same as his elite lions years. If he is truly healthy this season, the rams are nfc contenders for sure.
Turnover worthy plays
I stumbled upon your channel today. Your Titans/Saints game analysis seems like it came from a sore loser not an objective analysis. Failure to ention the epic performance of the Saints D's contribution to the win does quite a disservice to my Saints. Also, you failed to mention the noncall on the Olave mugging near the goal line while whinning about the poor referee play. Not cool guys! ⚜️⚜️⚜️
Who tf thought the Bears would be good 🤣🤣 media trying to manifest
Browns defens is legit
sam on purdy; "i dont know if hes that good"
dude... purdy is special. ive seen enough of him. hes a star qb. he has everything u want in a qb apart from size and arm talent. the kid is like brady
Insulting to Brady. I do think Purdy is exactly as Sam described him. A great fit in that current offense who can add value on top of it. It's why I always thought Mac Jones would've been taken by the 49ers instead of Trey Lance.
So, thought experiment: Take a random NFL team. Trade the QB, Best Offensive Player, and Best Defensive Player for Patrick Mahomes.
Out of 10, how many games do they lose to the Lions? If the Lions ‘should be’ beating the Chiefs then that number has to be like 7 or 8.
It’s crazy how wrong that guy on the right was
Steve and Sam: Aidan Hutchinson should have had 12 sacks that game! even if Travis Kelce DID PLAY the LIONS WOULD HAVE WON…IFFFFF THE CHIEFS DIDNT FALSE START DURING THE WHOLE GAME …until the 2 minute warning in the 4th quart is when the refs finally called them on it. there are TH-cam channels that show ALL of those false starts. Just in case you need help seeing that analyst to help your analyst. It’s not your fault. All analysts look the other way on bad penalty or non penalty calls by the refs for big fancy teams when they play the Lions.
HOW DO YOU BRING UP EXCUSES FOR THE CHIEFS AND NOT CALL THEM OUT FOR 2 dozen false starts that were allowed for Mahomes to win by the refs. If the Lions false started that many times against the Chiefs THEN WOULD YOU BRING IT UP? We would have won against Even Kelce ONLY IF the refs are not picking sides. Maybe sharpen your analyst skill set is all I’m saying
Y’all won. Quit crying!
Why is it that no one in the meaningful media refers to it "cheating"? Yet, every ignorant TH-cam fan boy is throwing a fit about it?
I love how these two pick and choose when to call it sucking and others nee 'context' to explain things...lol
Exactly lol. Sam is terribleee if the team is bad or mediocre. But if they have a modicum of success he actually does his research and explain things like how Tyson Cambell actually baited Richardson into an interception rather than it just being a bad read. Shit is unprofessional.
Here we go came bk just to TALK MY SHIT BUCCANEERS 1-0 🏴☠
Sorry, gonna have a hard time putting timeaside to follow your show. Sam's analysis just doesn't reflect what was on tape for the games I watched yesterday. Piss poor actually.
@ProFootballFocus Discord link showing up as expired
The 4 refs playing for the Chiefs more than made up for the 2 players they were missing.
Oh my god stfu. Actin like the Chiefs didn’t get any penalties called again them? Yeah Jawaan Taylor left early, literally ask and tackle in the nfl if they can get away with it, theyre gonna do the same thing. If Kadarius Toney doesn’t hand the Lions a pick 6 the chiefs win. But i get it the Lions are gonna celebrate this like they won the superbowl. Every time the chiefs win you guys cry about the refs
Good lord! Lions fans y’all won. Quit crying! Geez Louise!
All these fucking excuses for Bryce but Richardson doesn’t get that luxury with a trash roster as well instead dudes talking about “trubisky”
20-16 not 20-17 commanders vs cardinals
Also showed wrong score for the NO/TEN game. C'mon PFF...
8 targets not 11 for Calvin Ridley for 101 yards
8 catches on 11 targets for Agent 0.
What's a "target"?
@cj7139 a target is if he's the "intended reciever". So long as the QB is throwing at you, even if the ball is poorly thrown, it's counted as a target. So Trevor threw the ball at Calvin 11 times and Calvin was able to catch 8 of those passes.
@@Vo1kfang I know, I was trolling OP for his "correction".
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