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another thing i do with the leap trick, if you hold left click (basic attack) and right click with leap next to the boss, after doing this one, you can then spam right click while holding left, with my build i can get to about 21 earthquake stacks doing this with my duration tempers
@@Michael-gq9cd not bash but dust devils for sure. The thing is this build can easily be better than bash too, it just requires GG gear. You won't get near the same results although you may get results you are comfortable with. I recommend using DoNotHitMe's Thorns Barb variant as it's a lot more optimized and proven to be more successful in the pits with no cheese
@@Michael-gq9cd yes but the build is so f slow, i'm not sure if the build can do any speed content, the dmg relies from monster or boss attacking you, the problem is their ai is so stupid,sometimes they attacking you sometimes they do not and unlike in Diablo 3, currently there is no any skill or legendary item to force monster to attack you constantly. The build is for the very late endgame, don't build it for your first build or your're gonna suffer.
I just started this build a few days ago it's incredible but I was going off your old build so I'm gonna take notes from this video & add it to my build because my health & strength isn't even close. Also on that quest for doom bringer hit my first Uber yesterday but it's useless so the spark will come in handy.
On the console when you leap and press basic skill ( or shacking the move button quick ) after that it will be canceled the animation. Do it quick you can stack at least 15 if there is no lag. Good luck guys.
I just hold my left mouse button to move while leaping. As long as I don't let go it breaks the animation on its own. I didn't need to do a force move or anything like that. Just a heads up
If you had to choose b/w GA affixes and the bonus on Razorplate, which would provide the most bang for your buck? Is the 150% bonus super important vs. 125%? I wouldn't imagine so.
I'm pretty new to the game. There's a lot of people saying this doesn't work for console. Can you go in more depth about how the leaping works at such speed? I'm not at the point where I can make this fully but having the info beforehand would be much appreciated! Thanks for the guides.
Casual PS4 player here. Torment Duriel is easier than I thought with Thorns. I got ~120k life before elixirs, highest pit clear so far is Tier 94. Pit boss takes me 3-5 minutes to kill. Duriel took maybe a minute tops on the first try. Several Max Life GA’s. 50% Masterworked with only some procs on the right affixes. I use undying instead of iron blood. Take a step when your leap hits to cancel the animation. I’ve gotten to 15/16 earthquake stacks tops
Hello Rob, thank you for all of your awesome barb content. I recently got a doombringer. I havent tested it out yet but for some reason, my earthquake rumble is capping at 5 stacks. I am currently a console player. What do I need to do to increase the stacks? Everytime I leap, it stays at 5 stacks.
I've seen a few things around that people think Thorns while fortified may be broken. The displayed stat in my character screen remains 55k whether I'm fortified or not, but I'm not sure if that change would be visibly reflected in that.
Hey Rob Really having a issue with this build with some pit bosses. they seem to never hit me and i am jumping around but no luck. is there a way to work around that or just reset pit
I did some searching. Some of the bosses are just really horrible for Thorns. There are problems for all builds, but thorns especially. Most of the abilities/mechanics thrown at the player do not enact direct damage so they don’t proc thorns. Blizzard needs to do a hard rework on the implementation of the end bosses. For example, I can run through the entirety of a 90 Pit in like 3 minutes but can’t get through the boss.
He didn't mention the buff food. There are 2 potions, one is the quest potion and the other one idk rn. Then on top you put an incense. Kinda sad he missed to point that out, it's so crucial.
This happens on PC. Also, the trick that I found is to alternate between jump and frenzy. As long as you're getting that quick frenzy in in between each jump, the jump doesn't seem to get stuck
He explains that in his video. For this build to work you have to have a PC, and you have to enable "force move", and use that to move around as it cancels the animation on jump. If your on console this build won't work.
Rob, love your stuff! Question: what’s the easiest way to force move and leap? On controller seems really hard. Mouse do you just mash move button and leap?
what works for me (controller) to override the leap landing animation is hold down ur frenzy button to immediately cast it upon landing to animation cancel the landing lag. I need to cast frenzy anyways to proc the DR from the skill and might aspect anyways since I don't have doombringer. not the most fun build but damn, the results don't lie, its the most comfy build. thorns win s4.
Thanks for the kind words! This mechanic is very hidden unfortunately & the game does a poor job explaining it: 1. hover leap on your skill bar 2. press S 3. press middle mouse button to change weapons Good luck & enjoy 😉
@@Rob2628 he asked you why you use dual wield for leap not how to change weapon. I know you are not native English. He just phrased it different. Love the build :)
Is Thorns playable for helltides too or just bosses and Pits? Seems like it would be so slow on everything else so what could we swap out quickly for farming boss mats?
Im currently leveling with it from 50 onwards. At 70 now and Im having a blast :) you oneshot almost everything besides helltide boss. Works in all kinds of content without problems and without good gear
This build is on normal movement speed, not advisable when leveling up. Better to go with double swing dust devil or charge frenzy. Then when you hit a wall by pit 70+, change to this build.
Can you please explain to me one thing. There are rings in the build which have certain resistances. Does it play a big role to make exact rings with cold/fire and poison/lightning or there can different combinations shadow/cold or fire/poison and such?
Do NOT try this build on bosses until you have STR and HP Greater rolls on most of your gear and you WILL need a Greater roll Cooldown on the amulet to hit the CD needed for leap. I can get to 14 Stacks on console with perfect timing on a boss like Tormented Varshan. It does not ever hit the numbers that this video shows. But maybe I just need to roll better masterwork. My Razorplate is 1 greater and 140%x. I have barely pulled off a 76 Pit after getting lucky with the right boss. To get to 14 Stacks, you need to hit your basic attack as you come down from leap to cancel leap animation, then hit leap again. If anything, this build requires full build to be perfected before it is useful. On console, you can not control the leap as well with a controller. The controller only allows for no movement, short or long, depending on how far you move the stick in the direction. This makes it a different play style depending more on 4 evades into a Chain pull and then leap straight up and down. I really wanted this to work but I am not seeing the big hits when fighting bosses with the same setup. But again, maybe the difference between fully optimized masterwork and more than only 1 Greater Aspect gear in every slot.
Weird, Im at 116k hp with doom and shako on this build to get cdr, 1.7k strength. I'm just pressing all buttons available and cleared 87 pit with 2 minutes to spare. 40k thorns from 0 GA razor as well. But I dont see any big crits or damage, just hundreds of 0 to 100ks.
hi Rob, the leap problem (unable to chain the leap at cd 0) is not getting dev's attention. if you have someway to address this issue to get dev's attenion it would be very much appreciated... it's frustration especially for console players since you already can't target your leap.
I love being able to create each character and finish them in this season. Really enjoy thorns necro. Razorplat not even needed. Just give thorns to minions for millions of thorns
I've been following this planner and I had one question, what's up with Leap having the "Power Leap" node in the skill tree? Giving 40 Fury if it hit's an enemy. I didn't find anything that would benefit us by gaining or having extra Fury. Either way this build is mad fun in PVE and PVP. I like to pretend im AFK near the extraction and people just hand me their seeds lmao
Rob can u please make a video showing the main difference between bash and thorns? I think thorns does more damage, but it`s only decent for kill bosses. Pit and NDG seems to be boring tto do.
Before i start to change all my gear and rolls, is this build (with smale changes) also working for farming pit and other stuff? Atm having fun in double swing, but hard ones i go higher than 65-70 pits
For farming, Double Swing should be faster, but Thorns is able to push higher. Keep in mind though that Thorns won't be able to kill all bosses on higher levels, since not all of them autoattack often enough and/or don't spawn adds. At least it's much more relaxed, since you are basically invincible and don't need to dodge any boss mechanics once your gear is good enough.
Does they fix the settings, so that you can force move with [LMB] AND force attack with [SHIFT]+[LMB] like in S1 or Vanilla? They changed it somewhere in S2 or S3...
Hey brother thanks so much for all the help. But even with all the recommendations, I can't get the cool down on leap to reset as fast as yours. Your continuously hitting leap. Even with all the correct tempers, I just ain't getting it
Started leveling from 50 with this build and its amazing! I can do 30 levels higher nightmares 0 issues at lvl 70 oneshotting almost everything. Just dont get how to infinite Leap but will figure it out hopefully
Hey Rob I was wondering would this build work for pvp or would that one guy named DoNotHitMe thorns build work better ? I mainly looking to play pvp with a thorns build, I wanted your opinion on what you would change or do differently for pvp, any help would be appreciated 👍
Hi rob ive been rocking this build loving it! but im missing something i not sure i cnt prop the buff leap or stack the buff the glyph doesnt seem to pop out im nt sure whts wrong .. Pls help ty
Rob you should make a variant that is able to kill Uber Lilith. I tried last night and the blood blisters cause a lot of problems. Pretty useless in these kinds of situations where you output zdps.
Hi everyone, for those who are playing with this build, are you struggling with some bosses like Outlaw, Tormented Andariel and Lilith? Is there any problem with thorns against those?
I am gearing up for thorn build and curious how damage works. I got some nice GA gear with 'damage % increase' and 'overpower damage'. I know thorns scale with vulnerability and strength and not with critical damage. But does it scale with dmg% and overpower?
@@caiquems2431I haven't respecced thorns yet but I imagine the bulk of your thorns is coming from the HP conversion. So, the GA's will be amazing in crap gear but become less valuable over time. Eventually there's a tipping point where the % increase will be more important even on true single target.
Hey Rob thanks for the video, but are we able to permaleap with a controller? I also tried to permaleap with the mouse and keyboard and cannot duplicate what you are doing. I've got CD in all the correct items - helm, amulet, and both rings.
"So let me show you how to permaleap" -Rob th-cam.com/video/Il9ySsckTPI/w-d-xo.html My question was can you do that on a controller? Or is that not possible?
Hi. I cannot do Leap repeatedly like you, only oncem then i have to wait for cooldown. I have CDR on helm and amulett. Playing on eternal. Whats wrong here?
I don't get it? I'm running your build. How the hell do you get the crazy ammount of HP? Also, my thorns aren't doing anything against bosses? Been trying all the mechanics you've shown here.
Mobs 95+ will drop 925 gear. You can try to farm it, but not be as good as 925. But you can then farm for it after. Lord zir dropped one for me killed him 2 times.
And i thought I won't be making a barb this season even tho I knew he will have a godly build :D And this Barb Thorn build has definetly sold me on making one this season xD
I recently leveled my barb with upheaval. When I hit 50 I applied every aspect I had that was on the planner for this build and respeced (no razorplate). It works great.
actually if you temp thorns on gear by lvl 10 cause the thorns temper is bugged and the damage is maxed at level 1, you can pretty much get to world tier 4 / lvl 60 in under 2 hours running hell tide.
I tried this build (on console btw) and for whatever reason I’m not doing big damage to tormented duriel. I also can’t spam leap like you can, not because I can’t input the jump but it’s on a 4-5 second cooldown. I used everything in this build I just didn’t have grandfather and instead of the amulet I’m using melted heart of salig so I can survive because I don’t have my resistances all up yet. I have 50k health and roughly the same attack power, my glyphs are all level 15 and I have my gear all with the correct tempers and affixes (again except the necklace of the elements)- what am I doing wrong
Get rid of melted heart. Sort out resistances with gear. Find doombringer. This is more of an endgame thing you have to find all the right gear and masterwork it and hit the right point. Also get those glyphs up! Have fun!
Can someone explain to me where all the fortitude generation is coming from? I seem to have trouble being fortified and missing out on all the % thorns from that
you must have a cooldwon below 9 seconds roll on the helm and amulet cooldown reduction and find boots with +ranks too leap until you have at least 9 seconds
My Tier List S4: d4builds.gg/tierlist/
Watch live at www.twitch.tv/rob2628
Barbarian King has some more S-Tier Builds! The Thorns Barbarian kills easy every Uber Boss!
Planner: d4builds.gg/builds/0704c20f-68a7-49ed-97da-fc51454a9906/?var=2
Timestamps
00:00 Showcase Bossing
00:44 Build Explanation
06:10 Gameplay & Explanation
12:25 Setup
would be great if you say in the description if bolt elexier is needed or not ... great video thanks
Hey I’m just wondering… there are three different paragons on your builders side. Which one is the best? Uber or Boss kill?
Will this build still be good on console since you can't leap cancel?
I think people are missing the important part. How did you farm 4 barbillion gold?!
@@zahir2342people just give him shit.
another thing i do with the leap trick, if you hold left click (basic attack) and right click with leap next to the boss, after doing this one, you can then spam right click while holding left, with my build i can get to about 21 earthquake stacks doing this with my duration tempers
thats what i do as well, getting to about 18 stacks but im not fully masterworked yet
I’m using this build and my items are no where near maxed and it STILL MELTS. It’s a genius build.
Better than dust devils or bash?
@@Michael-gq9cd not bash but dust devils for sure. The thing is this build can easily be better than bash too, it just requires GG gear. You won't get near the same results although you may get results you are comfortable with. I recommend using DoNotHitMe's Thorns Barb variant as it's a lot more optimized and proven to be more successful in the pits with no cheese
"Genius build" ... stacks health and jump cancels...
@@Michael-gq9cd yes but the build is so f slow, i'm not sure if the build can do any speed content,
the dmg relies from monster or boss attacking you, the problem is their ai is so stupid,sometimes they attacking you sometimes they do not and unlike in Diablo 3, currently there is no any skill or legendary item to force monster to attack you constantly.
The build is for the very late endgame, don't build it for your first build or your're gonna suffer.
Have you tried doing pit with it?
I just started this build a few days ago it's incredible but I was going off your old build so I'm gonna take notes from this video & add it to my build because my health & strength isn't even close. Also on that quest for doom bringer hit my first Uber yesterday but it's useless so the spark will come in handy.
Are you console or pc?
that build hes using in this video is unreachable, 2 uber uniques and multiple perfect star that werent bricked, GL
@@bigdlawrence You dont need those ubers to make the build work but the doombringer takes the build to another level yes.
You need to make a necro thorns minion build
On the console when you leap and press basic skill ( or shacking the move button quick ) after that it will be canceled the animation. Do it quick you can stack at least 15 if there is no lag. Good luck guys.
On console IT sucks, better to Play bash
@@seehafenzwerg2087is bash better than this?
@@seehafenzwerg2087 don’t know about you but I could do it very easy and one shot all the bosses in my PS5 like in the video.
Can't seem to get this to work on an xbox controller.
@@johntruongpictures yeah same here. is this build even worth it without this bug??
I just hold my left mouse button to move while leaping. As long as I don't let go it breaks the animation on its own. I didn't need to do a force move or anything like that. Just a heads up
Isn’t bash and rupture better than frenzy leap?
If you had to choose b/w GA affixes and the bonus on Razorplate, which would provide the most bang for your buck? Is the 150% bonus super important vs. 125%? I wouldn't imagine so.
I'm pretty new to the game. There's a lot of people saying this doesn't work for console. Can you go in more depth about how the leaping works at such speed? I'm not at the point where I can make this fully but having the info beforehand would be much appreciated! Thanks for the guides.
Casual PS4 player here. Torment Duriel is easier than I thought with Thorns.
I got ~120k life before elixirs, highest pit clear so far is Tier 94. Pit boss takes me 3-5 minutes to kill. Duriel took maybe a minute tops on the first try.
Several Max Life GA’s. 50% Masterworked with only some procs on the right affixes.
I use undying instead of iron blood.
Take a step when your leap hits to cancel the animation. I’ve gotten to 15/16 earthquake stacks tops
will the harlequin crest work for this build?
the thing with leap cancelling is going to get fixed. will the build still be strong after they removed this?
Hello Rob, thank you for all of your awesome barb content. I recently got a doombringer. I havent tested it out yet but for some reason, my earthquake rumble is capping at 5 stacks. I am currently a console player. What do I need to do to increase the stacks? Everytime I leap, it stays at 5 stacks.
I've seen a few things around that people think Thorns while fortified may be broken. The displayed stat in my character screen remains 55k whether I'm fortified or not, but I'm not sure if that change would be visibly reflected in that.
Hey Rob Really having a issue with this build with some pit bosses. they seem to never hit me and i am jumping around but no luck. is there a way to work around that or just reset pit
same here
I did some searching. Some of the bosses are just really horrible for Thorns. There are problems for all builds, but thorns especially. Most of the abilities/mechanics thrown at the player do not enact direct damage so they don’t proc thorns.
Blizzard needs to do a hard rework on the implementation of the end bosses. For example, I can run through the entirety of a 90 Pit in like 3 minutes but can’t get through the boss.
@@austinrevessame problem i’m having. are you on console?
@Rob2628 Which weapon affinity do you choose on leap and frenzy ? It probably doesn't matter much but, just in case :)
idk if the nerfed the HP thing but i got allmost the same stuff as you got (not that good stats but the highst HP i have gotten so far is 50k :o
you don't have doombringer
@@PrscEU dose that give you over 200k more hp ?
He didn't mention the buff food. There are 2 potions, one is the quest potion and the other one idk rn. Then on top you put an incense. Kinda sad he missed to point that out, it's so crucial.
I can’t spam leap on ps5, I have the aspects and stuff but after a few leaps my character just stands there after he jumps.
This happens on PC. Also, the trick that I found is to alternate between jump and frenzy. As long as you're getting that quick frenzy in in between each jump, the jump doesn't seem to get stuck
He explains that in his video. For this build to work you have to have a PC, and you have to enable "force move", and use that to move around as it cancels the animation on jump. If your on console this build won't work.
@@CrimsonEnvec Just move around with left click and spam leap. You cant do it while standing still. Works just fine on PC.
@@thedonovanwhy won’t it work if u can’t cancel the animation you can still spam leap almost instantly using the frenzy swap in between
I would like you to show us Thorns Barb doing other Ubber Bosses other then the easy ones, like Duriel and Vashan.
Rob, love your stuff! Question: what’s the easiest way to force move and leap? On controller seems really hard. Mouse do you just mash move button and leap?
If you leap and basic skill right after , it cancel the animation and get you going without the risk of jumping across the room.
@@pascalfilion3518how close after do I gotta use the basic? I never seem to get it right
@@pascalfilion3518 that helps on xbox - for pc you just mash force move (key bind it) and eq at the same time over and over and it's much faster
All these builds I wish they would Add a way to save builds like a load out would be amazing
Yes dude we need loadouts and it should be free to change the skills and the paragon board.
@@thechosenwiller5517idk about free but for sure
Is this build worth it without the leap bug?
what works for me (controller) to override the leap landing animation is hold down ur frenzy button to immediately cast it upon landing to animation cancel the landing lag. I need to cast frenzy anyways to proc the DR from the skill and might aspect anyways since I don't have doombringer. not the most fun build but damn, the results don't lie, its the most comfy build. thorns win s4.
What about Ancient's Oath? Dont you think it might be better than a normal Legendary Axe?
hey hey ty for the video man they are always very helpful. I did wanted to ask you how come you choose dual wield on the weaposn for leap?
Thanks for the kind words! This mechanic is very hidden unfortunately & the game does a poor job explaining it:
1. hover leap on your skill bar
2. press S
3. press middle mouse button to change weapons
Good luck & enjoy 😉
@@Rob2628 he asked you why you use dual wield for leap not how to change weapon. I know you are not native English. He just phrased it different. Love the build :)
Nice, but what paragon tree are u using for Uber duriel?
boss killer
Is Thorns playable for helltides too or just bosses and Pits? Seems like it would be so slow on everything else so what could we swap out quickly for farming boss mats?
Im currently leveling with it from 50 onwards. At 70 now and Im having a blast :) you oneshot almost everything besides helltide boss. Works in all kinds of content without problems and without good gear
This build is on normal movement speed, not advisable when leveling up. Better to go with double swing dust devil or charge frenzy. Then when you hit a wall by pit 70+, change to this build.
Can you please explain to me one thing. There are rings in the build which have certain resistances. Does it play a big role to make exact rings with cold/fire and poison/lightning or there can different combinations shadow/cold or fire/poison and such?
Do NOT try this build on bosses until you have STR and HP Greater rolls on most of your gear and you WILL need a Greater roll Cooldown on the amulet to hit the CD needed for leap. I can get to 14 Stacks on console with perfect timing on a boss like Tormented Varshan. It does not ever hit the numbers that this video shows. But maybe I just need to roll better masterwork. My Razorplate is 1 greater and 140%x. I have barely pulled off a 76 Pit after getting lucky with the right boss. To get to 14 Stacks, you need to hit your basic attack as you come down from leap to cancel leap animation, then hit leap again. If anything, this build requires full build to be perfected before it is useful. On console, you can not control the leap as well with a controller. The controller only allows for no movement, short or long, depending on how far you move the stick in the direction. This makes it a different play style depending more on 4 evades into a Chain pull and then leap straight up and down. I really wanted this to work but I am not seeing the big hits when fighting bosses with the same setup. But again, maybe the difference between fully optimized masterwork and more than only 1 Greater Aspect gear in every slot.
Weird, Im at 116k hp with doom and shako on this build to get cdr, 1.7k strength. I'm just pressing all buttons available and cleared 87 pit with 2 minutes to spare. 40k thorns from 0 GA razor as well.
But I dont see any big crits or damage, just hundreds of 0 to 100ks.
In my experience on controller using the basic attack makes the timing more difficult and the leap spam slower.
hi Rob, the leap problem (unable to chain the leap at cd 0) is not getting dev's attention. if you have someway to address this issue to get dev's attenion it would be very much appreciated... it's frustration especially for console players since you already can't target your leap.
Hey @Rob2628 , what if you combine Harley+Razorplate+Grandpapa on bash. Quite curious. Can you try it ? :)
I love being able to create each character and finish them in this season. Really enjoy thorns necro. Razorplat not even needed. Just give thorns to minions for millions of thorns
I've been following this planner and I had one question, what's up with Leap having the "Power Leap" node in the skill tree? Giving 40 Fury if it hit's an enemy. I didn't find anything that would benefit us by gaining or having extra Fury. Either way this build is mad fun in PVE and PVP. I like to pretend im AFK near the extraction and people just hand me their seeds lmao
Rob can u please make a video showing the main difference between bash and thorns? I think thorns does more damage, but it`s only decent for kill bosses. Pit and NDG seems to be boring tto do.
does this work without leap? i just wanna hold W and watch things die around me with thorns.
Before i start to change all my gear and rolls, is this build (with smale changes) also working for farming pit and other stuff? Atm having fun in double swing, but hard ones i go higher than 65-70 pits
For farming, Double Swing should be faster, but Thorns is able to push higher. Keep in mind though that Thorns won't be able to kill all bosses on higher levels, since not all of them autoattack often enough and/or don't spawn adds. At least it's much more relaxed, since you are basically invincible and don't need to dodge any boss mechanics once your gear is good enough.
Does they fix the settings, so that you can force move with [LMB] AND force attack with [SHIFT]+[LMB] like in S1 or Vanilla? They changed it somewhere in S2 or S3...
Hey brother thanks so much for all the help.
But even with all the recommendations, I can't get the cool down on leap to reset as fast as yours. Your continuously hitting leap. Even with all the correct tempers, I just ain't getting it
Started leveling from 50 with this build and its amazing! I can do 30 levels higher nightmares 0 issues at lvl 70 oneshotting almost everything. Just dont get how to infinite Leap but will figure it out hopefully
what paragon config is better this or the do not hit me one ?
donothitme's tree is a bit tankier, rob's is a bit more damage
I stayed alive with donothitme in upper levels. I get 1 shot sometimes with robs
I wanna craft a Uber, should i just do Doombringer or Grandfather? I have the thorns build ready with Zero Glyphs lvled still hitting a mil damage
ROB, I crafted my first ever harlequin and it hit x2 GA CD/Resource!
Oh wow congratulations!!
@@Rob2628 Thank you mate, glad to see updated tierlist soon
I saw u has 2 version. uber and boss killer? whats the main different between the 2 version?
I would assume boss killer is for bosses like tormented and lilith
@@SinOfLust_- hmm what about pit pushing?
I like your style. NO outdated BS. Just pure DPS!!!
how can you do the leap unlimited?
Hey Rob I was wondering would this build work for pvp or would that one guy named DoNotHitMe thorns build work better ? I mainly looking to play pvp with a thorns build, I wanted your opinion on what you would change or do differently for pvp, any help would be appreciated 👍
Hi rob ive been rocking this build loving it! but im missing something i not sure i cnt prop the buff leap or stack the buff the glyph doesnt seem to pop out im nt sure whts wrong .. Pls help ty
Hey rob! Can you please make build with Arreats Bearing and call of the ancients? Really would like to do a pet barb but only you can make it viable!
@Rob2628
Frenzy skill on bar, what is it set to Auto or Dual ??
lol frenzy is a dual wielding only skill
I still can't figure out how to do the infinite leap. Like I know you explained in the video but it just doesn't work for me
Same here
What is the breakpoints for leap cdr? Also is build viable without doombringer?
You want under 9 second cooldown. It's pretty easy to reach with points in leap and the leap cooldown aspect.
It's viable without doombringer, just a bit less tanky
Hello Rob, how do you jump so much, greetings from Argentina
@rob2628 How do you get CD reduction on helm and amulet?
Spam helltide
Rob you should make a variant that is able to kill Uber Lilith. I tried last night and the blood blisters cause a lot of problems. Pretty useless in these kinds of situations where you output zdps.
Hi everyone, for those who are playing with this build, are you struggling with some bosses like Outlaw, Tormented Andariel and Lilith? Is there any problem with thorns against those?
the items you are showing in setup have different affixes than the ones in your guides.
I am gearing up for thorn build and curious how damage works. I got some nice GA gear with 'damage % increase' and 'overpower damage'. I know thorns scale with vulnerability and strength and not with critical damage. But does it scale with dmg% and overpower?
I can confirm that it does scale with dmg% which is why he uses inner calm which boosts your dmg% by up to 30% while standing still.
quick question. +counteroffense or %str on amulet? ty
counter over strength for thorn build
What’s the significance of the elements amulet?
How much cooldown reduction is required to hit the 9s leap?
Yes
On which weapon is leap equipped?
You forgot to mention the potions though, otherwise one can't get these crazy life numbers
Rob how can you spam leap? What to click?
Just use the Giant Stride aspect on ring then force move like explained in the video. Enjoy!
Can you force move on a controller?
which is better a razor plate with GA's but a low % or a razor plate with no GA's but the % is maxed
I also wonder, I have one with 4 GA's 105% (835) and another with one GA and 140% (925)
Which is the best?
@@caiquems2431 it depends on the rest of your character. Just check your total thorns wearing both and multiply by w/e percentage it is.
@@jasonlucia6682 thanks man !!!
@@caiquems2431I haven't respecced thorns yet but I imagine the bulk of your thorns is coming from the HP conversion. So, the GA's will be amazing in crap gear but become less valuable over time. Eventually there's a tipping point where the % increase will be more important even on true single target.
@@jasonlucia6682 thanks man !!! 😁
if i havent items with 2 great affix,that better - max life or str?
you can find it as drops or can roll it by the occultist
What’s the glyph for blood rage board?
Hi, got a question why my Leap has CD on boss and not Rob ? Thx
maybe you dont have cooldown aspect for leap
Aspects of giant stride reduce cdr to 2s wend hitting a boss or 3 enemies and if you have cdr on your gear it become instant leap on Successful hits
Hey Rob thanks for the video, but are we able to permaleap with a controller? I also tried to permaleap with the mouse and keyboard and cannot duplicate what you are doing. I've got CD in all the correct items - helm, amulet, and both rings.
You need leap to be 9.00 or less cd base and the max rolled leap aspect and on a boss ull have 0 cd.
You can't permaleap, u have to leap/auto and repeat
"So let me show you how to permaleap" -Rob
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My question was can you do that on a controller? Or is that not possible?
@@johntruongpicturesit's easy on controller once you figure out how to do it clips on my channel showing it
How do you get your leap to have no xool down so you can spam it like that?
aspect on ring, brawling cd reduction, just look at the planner
@@PrscEU I see in the video that he still has like 6-8 sec cd but is still able to leap again and again.
Annnnndddddd we have a new subscriber here my good man! Awesome video bro! Keep them coming!
So you can only do this build if you are on computer?
Yeah essentially
You can on console too, but I'm only able to get 14 quakes active at the same time
How can you do it on console?@@iTzrAmTB
I wonder if thorns necro would work well i kinda wanna build 1
As you can see from ALL the thorns Necro's, it's totally a thing.
I love thorns barb.. im so glad he got a buff. My only issue is damage on the higher pit bosses, I need to adjust my gameplay
Should i apply all aspects when leveling or only few i dont understand how does that work
Hi. I cannot do Leap repeatedly like you, only oncem then i have to wait for cooldown. I have CDR on helm and amulett. Playing on eternal. Whats wrong here?
Have you done all the tempering for leap CDR too?
@@Psychlone85 Yes, i have now. The brawling cooldown was crucial. Today i cleared 110, so i must have done most of it correct. Thanks for reply!
28/3 Golems unintended gameplay. Barbs doing billions every season is very intended gameplay. Such game balance, much wow.
hopefully one season the team learns math and how multiplicative scaling works.
@@-FrenchToast HA! Fat chance, don't your remembe their exp math for S2?
What makes you think this is intended gameplay and won't eventually get nerfed now that it is known about? What a moronic take
Remember that time BL sorc was "the most busted build" and was still like half as good as hota?
And necro is even more broken than that but its ok ?
Is Thorn barb no good to kill Lilith?
@Rob2628. How do you get the vampiric dash movement ? Is that apart of the paragon board for thorns?
aspect , metamorphosis
@@Sogekingux Ty
@@Sogekingux is it a utility by chance
@@PhillyShredzz its a mobility aspect
@@Sogekingux yea I found it
Any news on the patch release?
I don't get it? I'm running your build. How the hell do you get the crazy ammount of HP? Also, my thorns aren't doing anything against bosses? Been trying all the mechanics you've shown here.
same here, its a great build for trash killing, but against bosses there is no dmg output
yo same ! no boss damage at all pit 90s barley killing boss
Is it ok to farm razor plate at level 65? Or will i get a lower level one since im sorta under leveled? I'm new sorry for the question.
Mobs 95+ will drop 925 gear. You can try to farm it, but not be as good as 925. But you can then farm for it after. Lord zir dropped one for me killed him 2 times.
@@playhere-gu2lz is lord zir always above level 95? Or I need to be level 95 for best result?
how do your get so many hp?
using this build since today but with granthfather its also great i hope soon i got doombringer too, to make weapons correct
Can u force move on console or only pc
I want to know this as well, can't replicate the leap spam on controller.
Leap then auto
I get that but can you do it on xbox or playstation i think theres a setting to change the buttons but u wont have enough for 1 skill to bind
Just set this build yesterday, but the paragon board doesn't match what's in the planner. Help!
If i play dust devil because its fun, what is the best uber unique for dust devil?
could be just a shako..
And i thought I won't be making a barb this season even tho I knew he will have a godly build :D And this Barb Thorn build has definetly sold me on making one this season xD
hello robb, is this build suitable for leveling up farming
Pretty it doesnt since it work with rzor plate
I recently leveled my barb with upheaval. When I hit 50 I applied every aspect I had that was on the planner for this build and respeced (no razorplate). It works great.
actually if you temp thorns on gear by lvl 10 cause the thorns temper is bugged and the damage is maxed at level 1, you can pretty much get to world tier 4 / lvl 60 in under 2 hours running hell tide.
Still not sure how i get the perma leap to work, mine still has a 5 second cooldown after i do the leap. I have about 27% cooldown reduction
How are you leaping more then once?
Why are you taking strength instead of more base thorns? can anyone explain to me please?
I’m leveling dust devils atm , not sure what build to use to pass 100 pit eventually .
Bash, I just cleared my first pit 100 today with it
I tried this build (on console btw) and for whatever reason I’m not doing big damage to tormented duriel. I also can’t spam leap like you can, not because I can’t input the jump but it’s on a 4-5 second cooldown. I used everything in this build I just didn’t have grandfather and instead of the amulet I’m using melted heart of salig so I can survive because I don’t have my resistances all up yet. I have 50k health and roughly the same attack power, my glyphs are all level 15 and I have my gear all with the correct tempers and affixes (again except the necklace of the elements)- what am I doing wrong
Get rid of melted heart. Sort out resistances with gear. Find doombringer. This is more of an endgame thing you have to find all the right gear and masterwork it and hit the right point. Also get those glyphs up! Have fun!
@@I_stackzz yeah melted heart was good when I had nothing for survivability but I’m gonna scrap it for a spark and get doombringer
@@MeekMallard perfect!
Can someone explain to me where all the fortitude generation is coming from? I seem to have trouble being fortified and missing out on all the % thorns from that
What change if I’m ve grandpather?
its thorns only for bosses and is it good with cotroller?
Dont Play thorns on console. Leaaping is shit
How exactly am i supposed to Heal myself? Only With potions?
some bosses in the pit do not have adds how TF do i kill them?
How is your leap coming back instantly?!?
you must have a cooldwon below 9 seconds roll on the helm and amulet cooldown reduction and find boots with +ranks too leap until you have at least 9 seconds
@dtw-ssw OK so cdr on the amulet and helm, obviously the higher % cdr the better?
@@Wheelworldproblems yes
Great video like always rob!