Geometry and physics, yes - but also culture and economics. The former is a potentially large barrier; the latter is a potentially humongous driver (as people are priced out of the auto market). If we can change the culture, we can solve this and change our cities.
I think another evolution is to make more appealing small cars. If you want to appeal to men, you can't sell "cute". I'd like to see tandem 2-seater ~300-600kg EV's that are more like a fusion of dune buggies and Formula One. "Smart" cars are really performance limited and it's killing their appeal. Enclosed vehicles are popular for extremely good reasons. So is good acceleration and off-road capability.
My buddy and I are currently working on building a small EV and that's what we're running into. Making it small/efficient enough without looking "whimpy". Hell even small cars get bullied on the road.
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase I have a folder full of "Tandem EV" related Firefox bookmarks (that kind of are mostly solo and not 2 seater tandem), I'll send you a few links to examples that I think could inspire a better design: Overall shape/angles: th-cam.com/video/xBl3KHxCyQI/w-d-xo.html A huge favourite of mine: th-cam.com/video/gsSD-W-tODk/w-d-xo.html Interesting aero reference, very ugly headlights and general body: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Very_Light_Car A Gorgon Murray classic you should be aware of, but not necessarily copy the look of: th-cam.com/video/gw43m0TVsZE/w-d-xo.html A section of car culture you should be aware of, including a lineup of "sort-of-similar" vehicles to this concept: th-cam.com/video/u8HDHZLjiiY/w-d-xo.html I'll send you everything if you're interested in browsing through trash to look for something useful. I spent a little over a year interested in this and saving relevant links, sometimes taking notes and saving reference pictures, don't have the notes and saved pictures anymore, though. But I'm still pretty interested in the idea of a light, narrow, sleek, low and fast car for solo joyriders and commuters. I just think it might be closer to a motorcycle in terms of safety, and therefore unacceptable for a lot of people. The public seems to hold the belief that reducing your safety in traffic has to be a very explicit "I've decided to take the risk, and ride a motorcycle.", and some don't even think that should be allowed. Any enclosed 4-wheeler with comparable risk of death in collision is going to be a hard sell to regulators. I have no idea how big the market would be for these vehicles if you could make it legal, though.
Sadly electric bikes and scooters efficiency is at 20-30%. They tend to heat up. Reason is that they are so cheap. Same thing with petrol scooters, they are 10 times less efficient compared adjusted to its mass, than petrol cars. Another thing, is that cars, small cars in city is 13% efficient. Not 30% en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles Electric car engines are 95% efficient, not the whole car. Every part in electric car is 95% efficient, like battery, electronics etc, which makes electric cars around 70% efficient. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#Energy_efficiency So if you are comparing two tonn Tesla with 70% efficiency, to electric kick scooters, its: Electric car with passanger 2075 kg 70% efficiency Kick scooter with rider 100 kg 25% efficiency Kick Scooter uses only 7x Less energy than electric car. Petrol small car with passanger 1075 kg 10% efficiency Kick scooter with rider 100 kg 25% efficiency Kick scooter uses 27x less energy that small petrol car. Not 200x as stated Tesla with passanger 2075 kg 70% Petrol small car with passanger 1075 kg 10% Electric car use 3,6x less energy than petrol car. ... writing as electric kick scooter rider...
I feel you missed the point. It’s not about efficiency! It’s about practicality, function, convenience & cost. If more of us live in cities 7 BN by 2035 where do we park our 100% efficient cars? There is no joy sitting in traffic, driver or not, the time and cost wasted globally is huge. There simply isn’t a car ownership model that can work in urban areas. Cities have to be designed around humans and not cars. We need to draw a line and move on.
@@jezwilliman1324 Cities should be designed around foot and scooter traffic in other words. It may actually get more people into walking. Hey, even electrified roller skates are a viable option. Why drive a car when you don't need it? As far as the kick scooters vs electric cars go, 7-27X efficiency (which is more of a side benefit than anything) gains still counts for something in the long run. I think this ought to be rolled out in baby steps so as to allow for people to adjust. Because rapid radical changes imposed quickly has a non-zero chance to cause a societal upheaval, which may lead to a number of other societal ills to follow. Besides, a lot of urban areas are already neck deep in debt.
how you gonna go 500 miles to other city? or a cold winter rainy day to the work which is 25 miles away? by scooter? the problem is not cars but the innovation into cars to be more eco friendly.
The overwhelming majority of people don’t travel 500 miles to other cities on a regular basis. But to answer your question, public transportation in the form of trains would be a great way to fill this need. During the winter, you would invest in the proper clothing to ride the scooter.
@@shalvami Well who on a everyday basis is taking a 500 road trip. Absolutely nobody. I don't even want to drive 100+ miles in my car. Your whole scenario is ridiculous.
Great talk! I am amazed at how relevant this is in today's time.
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Fantastic talk! I am fascinated by micro mobility. I’m the proud owner of 2 electric scooters. Segway Ninebot Max.
Thank you for using a E scooter instead of a car. I hope to get a E scooter for school soon as transit is crowded and riding a E scooter is fun too!
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So relevant...a great talk!!
Great video! Do you have a written article by any chance that I can share?
Geometry and physics, yes - but also culture and economics. The former is a potentially large barrier; the latter is a potentially humongous driver (as people are priced out of the auto market). If we can change the culture, we can solve this and change our cities.
I think another evolution is to make more appealing small cars. If you want to appeal to men, you can't sell "cute".
I'd like to see tandem 2-seater ~300-600kg EV's that are more like a fusion of dune buggies and Formula One. "Smart" cars are really performance limited and it's killing their appeal.
Enclosed vehicles are popular for extremely good reasons. So is good acceleration and off-road capability.
My buddy and I are currently working on building a small EV and that's what we're running into. Making it small/efficient enough without looking "whimpy". Hell even small cars get bullied on the road.
@@Z0mb13ta11ahase I have a folder full of "Tandem EV" related Firefox bookmarks (that kind of are mostly solo and not 2 seater tandem), I'll send you a few links to examples that I think could inspire a better design:
Overall shape/angles: th-cam.com/video/xBl3KHxCyQI/w-d-xo.html
A huge favourite of mine: th-cam.com/video/gsSD-W-tODk/w-d-xo.html
Interesting aero reference, very ugly headlights and general body: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Very_Light_Car
A Gorgon Murray classic you should be aware of, but not necessarily copy the look of: th-cam.com/video/gw43m0TVsZE/w-d-xo.html
A section of car culture you should be aware of, including a lineup of "sort-of-similar" vehicles to this concept: th-cam.com/video/u8HDHZLjiiY/w-d-xo.html
I'll send you everything if you're interested in browsing through trash to look for something useful. I spent a little over a year interested in this and saving relevant links, sometimes taking notes and saving reference pictures, don't have the notes and saved pictures anymore, though.
But I'm still pretty interested in the idea of a light, narrow, sleek, low and fast car for solo joyriders and commuters. I just think it might be closer to a motorcycle in terms of safety, and therefore unacceptable for a lot of people. The public seems to hold the belief that reducing your safety in traffic has to be a very explicit "I've decided to take the risk, and ride a motorcycle.", and some don't even think that should be allowed. Any enclosed 4-wheeler with comparable risk of death in collision is going to be a hard sell to regulators. I have no idea how big the market would be for these vehicles if you could make it legal, though.
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Sadly electric bikes and scooters efficiency is at 20-30%. They tend to heat up. Reason is that they are so cheap.
Same thing with petrol scooters, they are 10 times less efficient compared adjusted to its mass, than petrol cars.
Another thing, is that cars, small cars in city is 13% efficient. Not 30% en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles
Electric car engines are 95% efficient, not the whole car. Every part in electric car is 95% efficient, like battery, electronics etc, which makes electric cars around 70% efficient.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#Energy_efficiency
So if you are comparing two tonn Tesla with 70% efficiency, to electric kick scooters, its:
Electric car with passanger 2075 kg 70% efficiency
Kick scooter with rider 100 kg 25% efficiency
Kick Scooter uses only 7x Less energy than electric car.
Petrol small car with passanger 1075 kg 10% efficiency
Kick scooter with rider 100 kg 25% efficiency
Kick scooter uses 27x less energy that small petrol car. Not 200x as stated
Tesla with passanger 2075 kg 70%
Petrol small car with passanger 1075 kg 10%
Electric car use 3,6x less energy than petrol car.
... writing as electric kick scooter rider...
I feel you missed the point. It’s not about efficiency! It’s about practicality, function, convenience & cost. If more of us live in cities 7 BN by 2035 where do we park our 100% efficient cars?
There is no joy sitting in traffic, driver or not, the time and cost wasted globally is huge. There simply isn’t a car ownership model that can work in urban areas.
Cities have to be designed around humans and not cars. We need to draw a line and move on.
@@jezwilliman1324 Cities should be designed around foot and scooter traffic in other words. It may actually get more people into walking. Hey, even electrified roller skates are a viable option. Why drive a car when you don't need it?
As far as the kick scooters vs electric cars go, 7-27X efficiency (which is more of a side benefit than anything) gains still counts for something in the long run.
I think this ought to be rolled out in baby steps so as to allow for people to adjust. Because rapid radical changes imposed quickly has a non-zero chance to cause a societal upheaval, which may lead to a number of other societal ills to follow. Besides, a lot of urban areas are already neck deep in debt.
how you gonna go 500 miles to other city? or a cold winter rainy day to the work which is 25 miles away? by scooter? the problem is not cars but the innovation into cars to be more eco friendly.
Shalva Mi i think scooter will be a great solution for short distance trips. Cars and other public transportation are meant for longer trips.
There is a video on how to snow travel with folding escooters. Best for single motor on the back wheel.
The overwhelming majority of people don’t travel 500 miles to other cities on a regular basis. But to answer your question, public transportation in the form of trains would be a great way to fill this need. During the winter, you would invest in the proper clothing to ride the scooter.
@@OnlyThomasHayes yeah, good point, something you'll never gonna see happen) wish vs reality.
@@shalvami Well who on a everyday basis is taking a 500 road trip. Absolutely nobody. I don't even want to drive 100+ miles in my car. Your whole scenario is ridiculous.