Soft Lock Picking: The Glitch That Breaks Winona's Gym
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.พ. 2024
- Can you escape Winona's gym, after an obscure glitch breaks the game?
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So this is the reason that the professor warns us about using the bike in the right place and the right time . . .
They know
Somewhere, Professor Oak just woke up in a cold sweat. His nightmare came true.
This comment wins the internet
Isn't it your dad that warns you?
OMG
I still dont get how he knows I'm an internet user.
He doxxed every one of hs
A mystery for the ages, truly.
Honestly, I like it more than when people call me a viewer. Viewer kind of implies I'm going to stay around.
@@Dante2056Y-You aren't? 😢
probably a lucky coincidence
"You've got six Gyarados at level 100. You can't lose."
"THAT'S THE ISSUE."
"What do you mean?"
"Some diabolical jerk put a Kekleon in my way."
"Then how did you get here"
"Uhh..."
The 6 magikarp guy in the future
You thought Hoenn didn’t have enough water?
Well jokes on you, the land is water now.
Lmfao
7.8
This is great lol
When team aqua takes over the world 😂
IGN, eat your heart out
"Get as far from the leader as possible, face the wall, and turn off animations" is the funniest part of these because it's just so petty and trivial when compared to how long the actual fight takes
For anyone curious since the text is in Japanese, Gyarados’ moves in this are Surf, Return, Frustration, and Thrash respectively
But Frustration wasn't added until gen 4, i thought
@@cyberdarkturtle6971Both Frustration and Return were added at the same time in Gen 2.
@@cyberdarkturtle6971Return and Frustration were both added in gen 2.
@@Revavroom500No, frustration wasn’t a move until Generation 4.
Return was a move first, and then Frustration was added.
The best part is knowing that you intentionally inflicted this on yourself multiple times just to show it is possible
I love the fact that he actually tests these lock picks extensively
and to get paid from the ad revenue of the video.
you know this is his paying job right
save states
@@beebfajeejy given he was messing around with different outcomes for swellows move usage, which is her first pokemon, he probably still had to do most of each attempt i think
I love how these usually aren't actual softlocks, but are close enough to being one that escaping is as painful as possible
Well it's a soft lock if you save after beating winona
that is what 'soft' means
@@loogabarooga2812if you save after beating Winona it’s a full lock
That's what a Soft Lock is... It's not a hard lock
A soft lock is a glitch or situation that allows normal play but outright stops forward progress. This differs from a hard lock, where the game crashes.
OP is correct.
The funniest part of these videos is that you’re talking about a hypothetical person suffering through this, yet you’re the only one actually going through it, and you’ve done it to yourself for the entertainment of others. A truly unique form of masochism.
The fact that at the final turn, it comes down a coin flip. Something about that just elevates the evilness to a whole new level
yeah, i thought the same, but at least you have both the gyarados disobbeying and paralisys as options to win ,i mean, lose, but losing in this case is actually winning
It's not quite a coinflip. The odds are actually in your favor, with a 75% chance of Gyarados either getting paralyzed or choosing not to attack.
How could a six dragon dance altaria not outspeed paralyzed Gyrados? lmao ?????
@@bonguy All the more painful when it does make the attack
@@hillwin10about 70 levels of difference, that's how
As soon as I saw this was on a Japanese game I knew we were in for a fun lock.
I love that Pikasprey says “the elevated bridge tiles interact with Surf in a weird way” as if this is something that happens all the time.
It makes me wonder, if you were to somehow surf there in a version of the game without the acro surf glitch, if the bridge tiles would still interact the same way. Like obviously they fixed the way you could surf, but they probably didn’t do anything about the bridge tiles interacting with surf should you manage to do it another way.
@@Betsy7Cat I'm not a super expert ROM hacker, but I wouldn't say I'm a novice either. if it works the way I think it does, the bridge tiles would still interact with surfing on them in this way even in the international versions, if you found a non-bike way to surf on that bridge tile
all surfable water tiles are assigned "Layer 0", but the glitch with the bike seems to shift the player's direction in a way that makes them view "Layer 1" whilst triggering the surf command, which seems to make them surf on Layer 1 instead of 0. Looking at the map of Fortree in an editor, I'm noticing the ladder up to the bridge in question has the "Layer cross" layer which allows you to go between layers without issue, with the bridge itself being on Layer 2.
i'm assuming whats happening is that the player decides to stop surfing the moment you go from one layer to another, which normally should always be "from Layer 0 to a different one", but in this instance, you would be unmounting via crossing from Layer 2 to Layer 1, which leads me to believe if you did manage to surf on the bridge in the international versions, it would still unmount the surf this way
@@Betsy7Cat can confirm from messing around with the roms back in the day, the bridge tiles function the same between all versions, even Emerald
@@PatJamma oh wow, I didn’t expect someone to actually know, that’s awesome
@@Betsy7CatWhen it comes to Gen 1-3, there is probably someone out there who has an answer to any question. You just have to meet someone like @PatJamma
Me: "Wow this can't get any worse"
Pikasprey: "With the last Gyarados being the only one left, we can't switch, and we are forced to make an attack."
This is an absolute masterpiece. I love these so much.
But Altaria is always faster, right?
@@johnmartinez7440 Probably not? It's a huge level difference despite the para.
@@Hunted0LessShirt it also has 6 dragon dances lmao
I love how these have gone from trying to get out of a tough situation to actively creating the most sadistic scenarios imaginable.
More like Saw-ft Lock Picking
At first, I thought "Oh, yeah, just lock yourself in the gym, that's pretty straightforward." I thought that this was going to be a more lowkey episode. Then you showed the one way out and I remembered the lord of hell that you truly are.
At this point I'm convinced that Pikasprey will somehow find a glitch that stops you from leaving the back of the moving truck at the beginning of the game, or leaving your home in other gens.
In an EU version of Crystal I actually managed to do that once.
I was using some item menu cheats while I was back in my room.
Somehow I glitched the stairs so I could not go back down.
So I was literally trapped in my room not able to go out again 😂
@@overlordalfredoYou got grounded lol
I mean. Gen 1 save corruption strats for item underflow could technically accomplish that? But that's basically a step removed from Arbitrary Code Execution, and outright rewriting the game's code to make it impossible to leave kinda sucks the fun out of the idea.
Then he will find out that doing so will solve a 20 year old unsolved easter egg which allows you to capture mew who was hiding under the truck
Over when your mom ground u for life 👀
The only thing that would make this better would be if you beat this softlock...and then the pokemon center you're set to return to is the one in Pacifilog Town.
Granted, you'd have Surf so it wouldn't screw you over, but it would still be an added layer of massive inconvenience.
Now I want to see a softlock where escaping it puts you into _another_ softlock.
I don't think you can get to pacifilog without either A. More glitches or B. Getting the Devon Scope.
@@DeisFortuna Ah yeah that too, not sure if there's a way. Plus like I realized, needing surf to set this trap up negates what makes pacifilog a threat anyway so it would be at best a final bit of amusement at a beleaguered player's expense even if it's possible to make happen.
If there were some way to bypass getting the Devon scope it could be doable to trap someone in Sootopolis.
Swap the Gyrados for something that can surf but not dive (Linoone for example).
Get to Sootopolis as normal, then head back to Fortree via Slateport (tossing the dive user into the daycare on the way)
And Bob’s your uncle escaping into a different soft lock.
I just don’t know if bypassing the Devon scope is possible
Even just locking you in the first area after Mr briney leaves, and not destroying the rock smash rock. Throw away surf and rock smash and be sent home. Pretty awful. Blood would be stuck at the start
I love adding shinies into the mix because it just twists the knife lmfao
It's a golden middle finger.
@@TheSteelDragonG exactly
If it was any other mon but since you get red gyrados for free in johto so yeah…
@@irvingamer2235 The Lake of Rage Gyarados isnt accessible in Gen 3 games. Gen 2 can't connect, and gen 4 can't transfer back.
So a shiny Gyarados in Gen 3 is just as good as any other.
@@Mr-Trox I know I was talking about tranfering to other games
And here I thought there was nothing left to break
Pikasprey will always find something, his imagination is only matched by his sadism
Well, there's always the cartridge 🤣
Silver lining: Asprey didn't point it out but showed it at 11:15, but if your last Gyarados is paralyzed and the Altaria is +6 speed (which it should be since it's Struggling) then Altaria will outspeed it, meaning you don't have to rely on RNG to win--er, lose
it doesnt even need to be +6 speed the showdown damage calc says lvl 33 altaria with a neutral nature, 0 speed iv and no speed boosts is 57 speed, where a lvl100 paralyzed gyarados with perfect speed iv is 49 speed so you just gotta make sure your last gyarados is paralyzed and you "win" (not that it really matters since like you said itll be struggling at this point but still a neat thing i thought id point out)
exactly
I'm so frustrated more people in the comments don't realize this -- if you watch it, Altaria attacks first -- he needs to acknowledge this lol.,,,
@@Pixtrix_ not if the Gyaradoses are EV trained first and given beneficial natures. You'll notice each Gyarados has 394 HP, which will only happen if it has 252 HP EVs and why it's extra important for Endeavor to land. If you give Gyarados 52 speed EVs and a speed-boosting nature (or 138 without a speed-boosting nature) it will have 58 speed while paralyzed. But of course, Altaria has Dragon Dance and will be at +6 anyways and have 228 speed, so you can put 44 (speed-boosted)/128 (not speed-boosted) EVs for Gyarados to hit the benchmark 229 speed needed for it to outspeed if you're somehow unlucky enough for it to not get paralyzed after all 20 Dragon Breaths.
this makes me really wish he showed the stats and nature cuz i really need to know if he did go with a +speed nature and 252 speed evs or not@@ascriptmaster
1:28 I just *love* the way you casually drop the most insane details as if you were reciting a shopping list.
Looking at his "ludicrously long and tedious battle" softlocks and his "absurd RNG" softlocks, Pikasprey was left to wonder what to do next.
At that moment, inspiration struck.
I love it when this guy uploads. It's like "Oh boy, what Geneva Convention violation has this guy cooked up this time?"
clearly at this point its more a Geneva Suggestion.
I always love it when he knows he can tweak a few things to make it a true softlock (i.e. beating Winona before saving), but decides to give just the smallest glimmer of hope to up the evilness of the lock
"You could start a new game and get back to Fortree before you could lose to Winona"
Yeah but could you get six shiny Gyarados before then? Not likely
Getting 6 Shiny Gyarados doesn't take that long with a copy of HGSS tho
@@TunaBear64good luck transferring them to Ruby :)
@@handlesarestupid154 Pal Park? With a DS that has the original GBA port?
@@choppergunner8650 let me know when you find pal park in ruby version 👍
@@handlesarestupid154 All you need to do is insert the GBA cartridge under the DS, insert the HeartGold/SoulSilver cartridge on top, go to the Pal Park IN HG/SS, and do the trade. I don't know how it works, but I believe you can do that.
I already thought that "you have to spend two hours swapping out pokemon constantly to KO a team of lvl 100 gyrados" was sadistic enough, and then you got to the "there's a 50% chance this will fail on the last turn and theres nothing you can do about that" part. Never change Pikasprey, never change
How could a six dragon dance altaria not outspeed paralyzed Gyrados? lmao ?????
@@hillwin10it 100% does haha. You can actually see in the video that Altaria outspeeds and KOs with no text box for full para or disobedience.
It’s one thing to explain a sinister save like this, but it is another to actually prove it and go through testing and showing evidence for the sinister save yourself before telling it to the world. You’re a trooper dude lol
Falling off a ricketty bridge will trap people in a haunted forest, and people think they need to write creepypasta about Pokemon.
It's your fault for surfing a fat-ass Water Pokémon on a small rope bridge 😂
Gotta love how these have slowly transformed from genuine gamebreaking softlocks to sadistic Saw traps
Not even John Kramer is this evil
i think this is my favorite lock of yours so far. each realization hits like a brick...
As soon as I saw that Swellow, I was like "Oh thank god for Endeavor!"
Imagine setting up another pseudo softlock when they respawn at the last pokécenter.
Whenever I see one of these videos, I always wonder what a speedrun of this would look like. I know you give us the estimated times for the pseudo-softlocks, but I honestly think it'd be very funny if someone actually tried to do this at some point as a sort of meme speedrun.
I love to think about this from Winoana's perspective trying to figure out why they came in with 6 traded shiny level 100 gyarados only to try and intentionally lose in a battle that takes 2 hours
Part of the fun of these videos for me is trying to figure out which step of the preparation phase is going to cause the most pain in trying to escape a potential softlock, but I was thrown for a loop since this uses a glitch I didn't know about. Thankfully, I've seen enough of these to know that A) having a team of level 100 Pokemon with only attacking moves means that there's a battle we probably need to lose, B) having Intimidate means switching Pokemon in and out will take even longer, and C) having shiny Pokemon will disincentivize starting a new save (it also adds an extra animation while switching). Also, with how specific of a glitch this used, I'm kinda surprised that it was caught in time to patch it out of other versions of the game.
God I love this series. Your dedication, thoroughness, and ability to keep finding new softlocks is incredible. One of the best series on youtube
christian: I think you can see where I'm going with this.
me, an idiot: yes of course
Wake up babe, new soft lock-picking video dropped
This is diabolical. Absolutely devious. A most heinous endeavor. Glad to be a long term subscriber!
Pikasprey creating an escape room for other pokétubers to escape from would be 🔥🔥🔥
They will have met the final boss.
The power of annoyance and dragging ass semi efficiently.
Truly terrifying.
On a serious note it would be pretty cool.
DO IT PIKASPREY DO IT!!!!
This series continues to get better with time. This is such a cool tidbit, the fact that you can use the acro bike to surf on land, and it's used for such a dastardly setup. It's perfect.
I think this one is my favorite. Just short enough people might actually be willing to do the hard work. Active enough that you can't mindless your way through. And puts the only real chance in the run to the very last turn.
true legend to actually sit through the pain of switching to show us how long it took
Indeed. Though it must have taken quite a bit of time to get not just 1, but 6 Shiny Magikarp, evolve them, get all of them to level 100, and teach them each move specifically to set this all up. It is stuff like this that makes his videos take so long. Good to see you dude.
@@ScottE-2 pokemon editor tool:
@@ScottE-2 haha i see u everywhere
@@ttrop we just so happen to watch similar people.
@@enderluckjarmg985 Yeah getting the Pokemon doesn't take too long however, it still takes real time to actually get to the point he needs to while not screwing up the setup. Then there's the research and testing he has to do for consistency and estimates for how long it'd take roughly to escape or attempts to.
I love that moment in all your soft lock videos of trying to figure out what the trap is this time around and having that moment of slowly dawning horror everytime realizing just how devious this trap is, only for it to then turn out even more horrific then I originally thought. Like here when I realized you'd be trapped in an un-losable battle, only for the switching and later disobedience mechanic to come in and make everything even worse. Brilliant
"Hey May, how the hell are you swimming on land?"
"I have no idea, Flannery! I was doing some sick bounces on my acro bike, and I somehow glitched through the land when near the Fortree River and now I can surf on it! Call Professor Birch ASAP!"
I LOVE the commitment to "give them all Leftovers". It's the most pointless thing, "we can just remove the leftovers before we try anything", but it's the _principle_ of it!
If anything, we could lean even more on the idea that most people _aren't_ going to go through all the setup and just start the battle, only realizing "oh, shit, i need to change my settings" and then "oh this is NOT doable if i have leftovers, wait, i need to take those off", which really adds that little bit extra.
It's the seasoning to our absurd dish here that really does it for me. 👌
Oh, no. Think about it: Leftovers HEAL. Which means that if we don't remove them, it's possible we can't lose at all. So it's not pointless that it's leftovers.
These videos are pure art. It's so unique seeing someone create a puzzle instead of solve one
Gawd I love these Soft Lockpicking vids. Honestly, the insane situations people manage to find and put you in, AND the fact you actually test the soft locks out..... just, that's commitment mate. *claps* I couldn't do it, that's for sure. Either way, I look forward to whenever the next one comes out. No matter how many months it takes. They are always 100% worth it.
Always glad to see more content from you. You always put a lot of polish into everything from the script to the visuals.
Truly one of the most painful "Are you winning son" you could ever get.
Babe wake tf up new softlock picking!
i was JUST rewatching a bunch of softlock picking videos yesterday, this is perfect timing and i am hype
I love this series!! I'm in college now but I remember watching it in high school and it still invokes all the same interest and memories for me. I hope you keep finding soft locks like these! Thanks, Pikasprey Yellow!
I really like these and I finally figured out why. It’s a reverse speedrun and you’re a master of your craft.
We need speedrun categories of these soft locks
I love your videos, man. Never stop making these!
I liked your self promotion at the end! It was cozy and tasteful. I've been watching vods of your pikmin 251 and others after I watched all of your Fool's Gold series. Great content
oh man time to get stuck again with a sadistic way to get out yayayyaya
pony pfp chad
@@orktv4673oh yes
Pokemon Desert Bus Version
Always love your uploads man. Great work.
Absolutely diabolical
I'm a simple man. i see a soft lock pick, i click.
I literally just came back yesterday to check if there was any new softlockpicking videos. I am so happy to be updated
Yay! I was wondering just the other day when you'd upload another one of these!
It’s amazing how much duct tape these games were made with back then
Good video, but couple things I believe you got wrong:
You can absolutely guarantee that 5 Gyarados get endeavored (?), you just have to switch between two Gyarados, and the moment one of them gets hit with endeavor, you stop sending that one in against the swellow and just switch between the other and a new one, and so on until you get bit with endeavor 5 times
Also, by the time your final gyarados has to attack vs altaria, you'd probably be paralyzed and it'll be at +6 speed, so it's definitely faster than you, it will just struggle and kill you, no rng involved
Yeah I was confused by the endeavor part too. I looked it up and apparently Endeavor has 100% accuracy so I'm left wondering why he's explaining it as if getting hit 3 times by it is some rare occurrence you need to pray for.
I never realized how nostalgic that opening jingle is. This was a great week for your channels, I hope this momentum carries forward deep into this year
Keep ‘em coming Pikasprey!!
If you catch those Gyriados yourself on the same save file, then the chance of you escaping would truly be the 50% of the paralysis and you couldn't rely on disobeying anymore.
paralysis only triggers 25% of the time. although it certainly doesn't feel like it
@@rhysdog8600 Yeah, 25% for full paralysis, I had it confused with the 50% speed drop.
@@RGC_animationthe speed drop is also to 25% in gen 3
I think in the video you said "selling all your items doesn't matter", but it will matter if the user has pokeballs. They can use pokeballs to stall at the end instead of gambling if your pokemon obeys you or not.
edit: as others have pointed out, he mentioned at 2:20 to throw away any items. my bad. once again pikasprey proved goofballs like me wrong who have zoomer brain attention span
Yea but at 2:23 he does say to throw them away
No, he said get rid of all your items, and MONEY doesn't matter.
You didn't pay attention
it's always a treat to see a new soft lock video, they're as genius as they are delightfully cruel, and every time I think it can't get any better/worse, you prove me wrong again! we love to see it!
Please make more of these. they are always such a joy.
Pikasprey: this diabolical trap has you with 6 shinies named AAAAAA, the player will be in a torturous situation where they can't reset if they want the shinies! Muahahaha!
Me: *resets because I don't want a pokemon with the name "AAAAAA" that I can't change*
Babe wake up
New softlockpicking just dropped
Who is this, babe? And why are they always sleeping?
Very cool unique one of a kind content. No one does what you pioneered pikasprey. 💯
This is some of my favorite content on TH-cam. I only wish I haven't seen all of your videos or I'd have more to watch haha
Who would think selecting "run" would pass your turn???
It does waste your turn in some other turn-based RPGs (especially older ones) so it's not the most unreasonable assumption
Ive been watching this series from the start, its my favorite
Second to the smeargle playthrough you did. I neee to watch that again
i literally had just thought of these vids again for the first time in a while earlier today. amazing how you read my mind!
So glad to see you uploading!
Well done, this is just fantastic. This is indeed the most evil setup I've seen you find. Bravo.
Thank you! Pikasprey yellow uploads make my day. Always
This series always makes my day. Never stop finding ways to break these games in the most diabolical ways imaginable!
Oh man here we go! Love your videos man
These videos are always such a treat. I always immediately click when I see you've made one.
i love this series pikasprey. it is pure joy in video form
It’s always a treat seeing these videos pop up on my recommended
The tenacity... Insane! Well done. You're my favorite TH-camr.
I love not just the diabolical ability to come up with these scenarios, but I also admire the effort in pain that you put yourself through to actually record the scenarios. Well done.
This one is amazing, and I always enjoy how shinies serve the dual purpose of a) wasting more time with the shiny animation and b) incentive not to just reset
Pikasprey Once again I need to inform you that your videos bring me fucking joy!!!! I am currently going back to my home town cause my dad is sick and honestly seeing your video literally brought me joy. If nothing else just know that you bring this one youtube person so much joy when you post. Thank you so much for doing what you do, and bringing a smile to my face. Keep up the good work my man!
I love this series, please keep making them!
glad to see you are still doing these
After about 1 or 2 years, a pikasprey video finally shows up on my recommended, reminding me how much i love these videos. Good to see youre doing well
Love these videos!
Currently sick with the flu and unable to sleep, it's nice to see another soft lock picking video, I think i'm gonna make some tea and watch this ^^
Great to see another video!
I binged all of Big Yellow's pokemon content while waiting for your next upload 🤭
Glad to see you posting still 😊
LOVED this one. Cool to see getting stuck without glitches, but I really dug how specific this one was!
I've been waiting so long for another episode
swear to god your soft lock picking videos are my favorite pokemon content on the internet
you're awesome man, thanks for doing the good work