It's mind blowing to think about how majestic the forest must have been when these photos were taken and it is sad that they're gone now. It must have been so beautiful before they were taken down
This is probably the most depressing and eye opening video I've seen. Man imagine what itd be like if the entire west coast was covered by trees of this size. It would be a wondrous and magical sight to behold.
So I suppose we should all live in "tee-pees"......oh , we can't , that's buffalo hide . Don't forget young man , People are also a part of the ecosystem .
@@helbitkelbit1790 pretty sure that wasnt what he was inferring... couldve atleast kept a few hundred acres of trees this size. Only thing it wouldve hurt is a greedy mans wallet.
@@helbitkelbit1790 whats wrong with using hide for housing. Earthen homes are also a option. Like soil or bricks, or rock. Nothing beats a nice rock house. How could i forget? I'm within the "ecosystem" every day. Someone liveing in a large city might forget but not me man. All i was doing was fantasizing what the coast looked like pre western expansion. How beautiful it must have been. How magical the area must have felt with a hundred times more giant trees towering above head.
Modern man definitely does not exist as a part of the ecosystem. We are a parasite on the planet. These forests would thrive and exist without us. We However would die if it were not for the things we consciously take from the world.
I fought fires in all these groves. The most unreal images is the landscape of where these trees grew and felled was of prehistoric times during the dinasors. The images of hundreds of stumps that were left after being logged. Incredible. One you may know is the Chicago stump. It was a tree cut down and a thirty foot section was transported by wagon to Chicago for the worlds fair. Everyone thought it was a hoax. They said no tree could be that big. There is a stump called the Chicago stump. We were assigned to protect the stumps from fire. The wood chips are still there. One firefighter found a 50 cent silver coin piece when we were gridding. The coin was of 1907 the same year they stopped logging. The coin was in prestine condition not a scratch on it. It was never in circulation. It no doubt was payment to a logger who lost it before he made the 40 mile trip down to town in Fresno ca. How did they move these trees to the mills down the mountain by horse and wagon is beyond me. Our crew of 15 firefighters slept on a single stump 10 foot off the ground one night. Simply amazing to see this site of stumps. Get off the roads and hike in and see something that will stop you in your tracks and see something a pic will never do... Thank you for this video. We also found a flume when cutting a contingency line down hill on the American river. 3 am came and someone called me on radio and said we need to ID a structure. ??? Im thinking ?? I reach the site of an old flume 15 feet high almost filled with dirt 15' high 15' wide. Hugh unmarked piece of history not marked on any map. Imagine the structure filled with water and trees floating down them. Made of 26 foot by 2" thick by 10" wide planks of wood held together by enormous size beams sunk into the ground on the side of a mountain in the path of a fire. We saved all of it. When we found it it became an assignment to protect we did just that. MMU 4246 crew5.
Wow! Incredible. That would of been amazing to have seen for sure especially the part about you guys sleeping on one of the stumps! Really cool information and story so thank you for sharing it!
I can understand what your saying. I don't think any one knew they lived so long. I think they thought the tey were exhaustible supply I of timber products which were badly needed the time.
I agree... I was just about to post a comment very similar. I bet they thought they were just doing good. But, in reality, they were aiding in the destruction of our beautiful planet. I know we need certain things to live. But, we didn't need to cut down the oldest and biggest trees on the planet to make a house. I guess that's what happens when you're stupid. You do stupid shit.
I once lived on the ridge of Mt Tamalpais in Marin Co, Ca. Every full moon, I would take a hike down into the forest of Muir woods at night and walk among the giant redwoods. Very grateful that a few of these magnificent beauties were, and still are protected.
What a magnificent collection of photos. The awesome size of these trees are hard to comprehend. But it is sad that we've destroyed so much of these giants.
My heart sank watching this video (thank you for putting it together!). The people in these photos don’t seem to appreciate or respect the beauty and necessity of these gigantic trees! They look stupidly arrogant. Why take them down? I’m glad you have these photos to refer to of what once existed here. 😢
Looks like there was a fuckin banger trees out there. In my eyes, i think some of them could have been the biggest. Arrogance,.... Defo. Some of them pics where mateys are sitting or laying between the fell points. Shame they didnt fall on 'em.
Its a shame the stumps of these old school fells cant be discovered. Maybe get an idea of if these poor fuckers (trees), that had the hardship of being fucked over by old father johnson, had a chance of being the biggest.
Looking back, this is nothing we should be proud of. Thankfully, Teddy Roosevelt's conservation legacy and establishment of 150 national parks helped preserve what we have today.
@@oinkooink I guess the fires were set by aliens or was it the CIA? The truth is your divisive and an enemy of this country. Teddy R. had more brains and guts than you could even imagine. He was and will always be a true American hero.
Same in Australia, the logging companies would hold competitions with finders fees for the tallest trees, and then chop them down, absolute tragedy. The old logging towns have similar pictures of massive stumps and logs from 100 plus years ago, those eucalypts are hard wood, not as wide as the red woods but records of well over 100m tall trees being felled, now only 1 tree in Tasmania has officially been measured to exceed 100m in all of Australia.
Several greater than 400 foot Douglas-firs existed outside of Mineral, Washington in 1975. One of them had a big portion of the top blown out and it was still over 400 feet tall.
I live in Benton County, Oregon. I go to this store in a town next to where I live named Alsea and in the shop " The Mercantile" and they have a collection of the biggest record holding trees of the areas history. It's unbelievable.
It is my goal to live in Alsea. I'm from Corvallis, so I visit often, but I hope to make it my home one day. I feel blessed to live in this area where I can still drive old logging roads and hike the old-growth forests. The Pacific Northwest is magical. It breaks my heart to see images of these phenomenal trees felled by greed.
This says a lot about the mentality of the time, and for too many now. That everything was ours for the taking. Wonder if the thought "how long ya think to grow another" entered anyone's mind.
Helbit Kelbit I thought Santa did that. It’s the same story told for the same reason to two different audiences. The North Pole workshop has Peter and the pearly gates at the east door. At least the children accepted reality at some point.
@@jimlawson7789 I think it is true , it's the people like you who crucified Christ . I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced . Will you be so sure when your day is near to say you don't believe . You had the chance , but you turned it down , now you can't retreat........
@@NZmellowyellow Just take a look around and what do you see ?..pain , suffering and misery . It's not the way that the world was meant . It's a pity you don't understand......
I've lived in Humboldt County California for the past 23 years. Those who venture "behind the Redwood Curtain", would do well to take the scenic alternative to the 101 freeway, called the "Avenue of the Giants". Its 22 miles are full of the Big Trees, ferns, winter streams, etc. Another no miss item would be the Samoa Cookhouse...one of the last few lumbermill cook houses (still in use today for the public). It's just west of Eureka, on the Samoa Peninsula. They also have one of the best logging museums around, complete with displays of original equipment loggers used back in the day.
Have done - just would have been incredible to see some of those they cut down - I still find it incredible they went at 'em - but I suppose $$$ talks - but some of the terrain & the accidents... Magnificent things - so long in the making....
@@SmallWonda so very true...on all counts. The lack of any concern for the environmental damage caused, was a hallmark of the US in the 19th & 20th centuries. Still, what was preserved by the likes of John Muir & many others, is spectacular. Many of the bigger trees along the Avenue...date back 2000+ years. And that...just blows my mind 🤯.
Exactly...🤔 It's a ritual. Everything in our "modern" era is a reenactment of Scriptural events... Starting with the Enochian saga of the Watchers cutting all the giant silica trees down. Pure evil pageantry born out of spite. Btw, it helps to understand that we are in Rev 20🧐👃
DUH have you ever walked in the redwoods ? Smith River has many large trees here, come up and see for yourself ! There's even a grove of them along the Winchuck River in S Oregon.
There are more trees today then ever before in recorded history. Come to the Pacific Northwest of the US and you will see for your self, and there are plenty of huge trees left and still growing.
You can see the root structure of some that fall down naturally - not deep, more of a ball. I suppose the forest protects individual trees from wind. I slept in a hole left by a falling tree, decades ago.
I've been there as a young person. At the time I felt that was so wrong I cried. Family just looked at me like I was crazy. I've always been aware of the spirit ,Ora of plants ,trees,even people. I've been to places like garden of the gods in Colorado and old 🌎 structures ,forest of Europe. U can really feel the age of these places. It has always had a very strong part of the way I see and feel .
I am not a fan of cutting trees down and for the longest time I thought it was immoral and should be banned. I have mellowed to allow for some tree felling. At some point, old growth has to be taken down for new ones to grow because old trees eventually rot.
I'm only at min 6, but I'm still puzzled as to what kind of saws, or blades, were used to make such a clean cut? How was such a tool transported into the forest? Where is the woodcutters' protective gear? Why don't I see more sawdust or chips on the forest floor? So many questions, I know!
I come from a long line of loggers and it is super fascinating how they would go about it in the early 1900’s But 150+ years ago we have no idea how they did it then especially with how big the old growths were.
@@Aurora-uq5hm I completely agree with hidden history and old world tech cover ups. But the logging in late 1880’s-now is well accounted for and understood. Many Pacific Northwest old museums portray and show how it was done and even my grandpa told me about how his dad was able to take down huge trees with small but innovative tactics. I don’t agree or like it all but that’s just the way it was. I think we forgot and were unable to make nice solid stone structures at that time due to lost knowledge so we just ripped up trees for wood, also allowing for greater truth cover ups regarding big trees.
@@michaeltaylors2456 The piece you touched may have been petrified or coated with a hard finish. Redwood is actually lightweight, quite soft and easy to cut, about like cedar, which is why they were able to move such giant pieces.
@@jamese9283 , Yes Redwood is quite soft, especially immature trees cut these days. Giant Sequoia, is quite a different species The photos are all Giant Sequoia trees. A size perspective: The lowest branches of a GS tree are often larger than the diameter of an average giant redwood’s main trunk !
@@michaeltaylors2456 I read that the Giant Sequoia was so brittle they would shatter when felled. Hardly good for anything but roof shakes. That would mean there’s not much left of the old giants in the modern day. Total waste of irreplaceable forests.
I feel like the people who took these trees down, stole something from all of us. All those that have destroyed our earth have robbed us of having a better way of life. It’s very sad to me.
We're all responsible. If you drive a car or ride a bus, you're poisoning the earth. If you buy anything made of plastic - where is that plastic going to end up? You're poisoning the earth. If you're using a cell phone or a computer right now - where did all of those components come from, and where will they go? If you use any prescription medications, your sewage is now toxic to animals and other life forms. Where does it go? Our entire lifestyle is poisonous, from A to Z. We blame the mega-corporations for their greed and thoughtlessness, but there would be no mega-corporations is there weren't billions of us supporting them.
You would’ve done the same in those days as people had to find a way to survive and logging was one of those ways…most wouldn’t have if they could see the future but that would’ve meant starving tryin to figure out something else…it’s not that they wanted to destroy earth they just had to survive….try n put yerself back in those times and think how would you have made it….and be honest with yerself…I’m a tree man with the utmost respect for them but understand why they cut them and don’t make it seem like they were savages just destroying the land…we love it as much as anybody…..
Question is why they cut down those giant trees. For wood It was much easier to cut down smaller trees like those we have nowdays. Easier to process them and transport. Especially when they did everything by hands and horses. It just doesn't make sense. Unless they wanted to destroy them on purpose.
Can just imagine how beautiful it was to see these majestic trees and smell the fresh clean air. I wonder what type of trees they were. Do you have the photos saved some where shareable? Thanks For sharing
I lived on the Olympic Peninsula for 3 years. Was able to do so without working for 2 of those years. Hiked nearly 2,000 miles throughout that forest. Happy to say - there are still sections with original old growth. Even in areas that were clear cut 100 years ago…patches of old growth remain. The spacing between the original trees was amazing.
@@MrSpikebender But people at that time were giants, too. On some old lithographs, and paintings you could see a man holding a lion under his arm. Or, a cow by her tail
It is sad to see how they all stand in front of these giants proud of their own destruction . It is very sad to see what humanity does to these gentle giants that are our best friends here on earth
Biff’s Big Wheel most of these people crying about their causes are meant for other people not them. They can have or do whatever is best for them but the rest of are criticized for doing the same. They need a good slapping up side the head!!!
@@sevenmile ya I cut them all down and burnt them in my wood boiler to stay warm after the first winter in my new house. As for the wildflowers I just sprayed them with diesel fuel and once they died I burned them off. How did u know?
RIP Mother of the Forest, and all the other trees we will never get to see. I grew up near a grove of Giant Sequoia, and there's nothing like walking underneath them. The redwoods are a treasure we need to protect.
I've been to Sequoia National Park....and it is unreal to see trees that large. Doesn't even seem like real life......it's kind of sad to see these ancient giants being taken down. Knowing there will probably never be a time in human history where things will be able to attain this stature.
there will, and have been in the past. if its happening now it happened in a previous reset. We only have like what.. millions of earth years that have passed. We just happen to live at the end of the curve.
Yes, from shear determination and grit these men were determined to bring down an unconceivably beautiful living creation from the divine. How misguided we are.
yup and most of those trees were of the few left of the elder generations of trees new trees will never be as big just as we are weaker than our grandfathers on testosterone new trees are weaker than old growths we as a Species needs to protect all the old growth trees left and start cloning and cross breeding projects for said oldgroth trees we we use old growth pollen fr new groth trees and old growth pollen on old growth trees as well ascloning old growth trees and spreading the clones to have more old g rowth bio diversity
Vancouver, WA, Seattle, WA, Bellingham WA, Vancouver BC area valley bottom land all had 500-1000 year old Douglas firs that averaged 200-400 feet tall. There are reports of douglas firs topping 400 feet. Its absolutely mind boggling. One that was reported at over 450 ft tall on the Nooksack river nicknamed the Nooksack Giant was claimed that the first branch was well over 200 feet up the tree and that it was around 500 years old if I remember correctly. Imagine if it was still standing...
I live in bellingham lmao Yeah i go up to the mountains all the time. Have yet to see a doug taller than 200, but im probably not going far enough. Really sucks that zero of them exist in the lowlands though.
@@cmw184 There's dozens of parks that have mature 2nd growth douglas firs that are over in the 200-250 foot range. St Edwards State Park, OO Denny, Bridle Trails, Boeing Creek, Schmits Preserve has a few as well as Seward Park. Lord Hill Park, Redmond Watershed Preserve to name some others... up your way you have Deception Pass that has some good examples of mature firs that ostensibly has a few firs peaking over 200 feet even that close to the coast. Rockport State Park as a good example; there's douglas fir's there that easily top 250 feet and give a good glimpse into what top tier old growth firs would be like. Most giant's you find on common trails exist essentially as a memorial or statue, and never in big clumps unless you really go looking for it in very particular and remote areas but even then your at a much higher elevation. There are some lowland old growth fir forests that hug the PCT just north of Cascade locks as well that are defininetly 220-250 feet as well. But yes MOST is gone, a good example is Ravenna Park... we had douglas firs that were 330-350 feet if i remember correctly like right next to University of Washington up until like the 40s then a state department essentially cleared them overnight in the 40s? Its crazy dude.... Some more lowland trees over 200' in the region include Lake Crescent area, and obviously Hoh river rainforest area, Boulder River trail starts in very obvious clear cut regrowth then enters old growth cedars up to 15 feet wide at the end. My grandma has 40ish acres in Skagit County that has a 400+ year old Douglas fir with burn marks on it that's over 200 feet tall with the top blown off that's how I became interested!
@@cmw184 One more point. Many think the coast redwoods as the tallest trees in the world when genetic sequencing has shown that the maximum height of each species as like 430 for redwoods vs 460ish for douglas firs. The genetic variability in coast redwoods and giant sequoias are also vary limited. Meaning the average tree will be very similar. In Douglas fir the genetic variability is huge, meaning the width, height, shape, etc of each individual douglas fir has huge variability. 95% of coast redwood has been logged, while 99.99% of old growth douglas fir valley bottom ecosystems have been logged. Which tree's did loggers first chop? The tallest, widest, straightest trees. The ones that were abnormalities in their genetics, the ones that gave shade to all other canopies. The one that gave wind protection for all the other giant tops. So it wasn't EVERY tree was 300-400+ feet tall, it was that Douglas fir genetics had the capability left alone in the right environment to get that tall. We will never know their true potential before anthropogenic influence.
The tallest recorded tree to ever exist was called the nooksack giant. I actually live less than 40 miles away from where it was speculated to be, (barely any records were kept) it was said to be 465 feet tall.. many more were likely around here, but cut down by early settlers in the 1850s-60s. The species was douglas fir. The tallest douglas fir to exist rn is in oregon. Around 327 feet tall. The location is kept private though for good reason.
Incredible image's but it the same time truly heartbreaking. Why do we seem to destroy any beautiful or majestic natural thing on earth & all for the greed of money non the less. Countless generations of humans before then had the common sense to leave those trees alone & it wasn't because they didn't have the means of chopping them down I mean look at the ancient structures they built they had far more ability & skill then we do today yet not until the last 100 years or so were we so ignorant & detached from nature to begin chopping down practically ever giant ancient tree around among other mindless damage to our home & the place that supports us. It makes me ashamed to be a tied too the species.
Great picture compilation. Id rather still have the trees tho. The music is kinda relaxing but it also reflects the anxiety & stagnation of spirit in the modern day, as i keep expecting to hear.. " We are experiencing an unusually high call volume. Your call is important to us & will be answered in the order called. Thank you for your patience."
Those guys are so lucky to have been able to experience cutting down such large trees. So much resource in one shot and they knew it was special, that's why they took pictures.
My Dad and Uncle were loggers right after WWII. I have a picture of them with a log that was as wide as their log truck. I've watched big timber get cut down before. It's not easy and large ones take several men, as you see in the photos. The are very proud of the accomplishment, as they should be. It's very dangerous and very physical. Remember, they didn't understand anything about old-growth forest. That wasn't even a blip on the radar. Nothing was titled Old Growth. I was just the forest to them. They were paid by the board foot from mills to log. So they logged. Logging literally built The Pacific Northwest and Northern California. Without logging there wouldn't have been a gold and silver rush. There would have been no water flumes to haul water through the mountains for the residents. So, for the conservationists, I solute you but quit villainizing innocent people. It's the greedy ones who screwed it all up, not the residents trying to earn a living and feed their families. Young folks don't understand. One day, when they're 40 or 50, they'll realize, like I did, how misled and radicalized they are. That's when they will begin to grow up. Sad, because in my day, people grew up before they married and had families. They relied on their parents to guide them through life and how to survive. It sounds like a harsh, but this is how family units bond. With very little social pressure, families banded together to help each other and make sure everyone survived the winter or rebuild their barns, rounded up cattle. Communities were a team effort. Everyone participated. We lost that. This is because our government has been manipulating everything we see, hear and speak for decades and it's on steroids as of April 2023. Today, you can't go to the gas station without running into a mentally ill person and they come in all flavors. I blame the media, the press, the government. But I don't blame US. We're the victims here. My whole life has been a psyop on the American citizens. They've turned us from men like we see here to couch potato, drunken, vulgar shells of human beings, tamed and distracted, fat and clueless, both men and women. Recipe for tyranny, wouldn't you say? Hmmm Thanks for listening and I hope I sparked someone's mind. Look in the mirror first. Firing arrows at something you actually know nothing about is dangerous, mean, and very destructive with all kinds of ripple effects on others. It also assists the alphabet agencies do their "job" for their overlords, whoever they may be.
@@germancarspotter4514 Thank you! That's very sweet of you to say. I had to re-read it and I found some typos. I hate that! 😂Glad you liked it. Take good care! It's game on now. Stay frosty!
I don't blame the people in the photos because you are right, and I agree with your comments on modern-day Americans. But cutting down historical and century old trees was and is wrong. They provided a lot for their ecosystems. Justifying logging by saying it built America and helped the gold rush is giving an excuse to the same greedy people you pointed out in your post. It was wrong, and it is wrong. Progress should not be at the expensive of our environment. You are only making things worst for you grand children who will suffer the consequences of these actions. Completely contracting all the points you made about family.
@@anthonyreis3533 I only need one Argument, old growths Take away the watet and nutrients of smaller trees, thats why Ther either stand Alone, or have only few surviving trees next to Them that grew when this big trees hat Bad Times.
@@germancarspotter4514 Firstly, all of these trees were in forests of trees similar in nature. So, it isn't taking enough resource to inhibit the growth of life around them only in its immediate area. Secondly, one 300-foot tree does more for its environment such as carbon capture, oxygen supply and animal habitat than a number of smaller trees in the same area the large one takes up which would grow smaller and provide less because of the competition for space. We aren't even going to get into the fact that replanting several smaller trees after you take down the bigger one would take decades or centuries to grow large enough to replace that one large tree that was cut down. Obviously, it's a balance in managing large and small trees.
Hey Jarid, maybe I’m getting jaded looking at these photo compilations- but they seem to be staged or multiple glass slides photo shopped processing. There ain’t NO WAY they recreated that tree in a building with “Actual Tree Bark” for a World’s Fair! I didn’t see which one it was for! Look how hard it is for a Lilliputian size Xmas tree at NYC … so much stuff to binge watch on a Saturday afternoon- so much better than the boob tube 💯🎯thanks as always my friend!
Some people only just blame previous generations. You never walked in a mans shoes or raised a family 140 years ago! Most men today can’t even work for a hard days pay for a honest day labor!
they were likely paid to do it. Not because they needed the wood. Why would you cut down something unmanageable like that? th-cam.com/video/jUU19QNOSjU/w-d-xo.html
You can blame Randolph William Hurst, the Dupont's & others. They outlawed Hemp because Hurst invested in forrests to supply paper for his newspapers DuPont just invented nylon & wanted to sell it to the US Navy for ropes. Hemp could do all of that with a crop that would replenish itself every year & without the pollution.
...tree's are lungs, rivers are blood flow, lava is well what you'd think and maybe gold veins are the nervous system, plus so much more as us animals don't evolve to our enviroment, our planet changes us to meet her needs. So we killed ourselves decades ago by changing our ecosystem before knowing how bad we can screw things up, and we keep messing things up. We can create all the cures we want but eventually nature will find a way to create balance in her system. I think we could use 5 years off and eat what already made and let nature balance out for that time.
Those trees & photos were absolutely magnificent the music was so incredible passionate it was a perfect fit just perfect 👌🏿 Thank you I may have too subscribe
In themid-1970s I was working in San Diego, helping to renovate Victorian houses built in the 1880s-1900s. We were converting them from private homes to office space, etc. We had to be careful removing and rebuilding windows, floors, woodwork, etc. because they were made from California Redwood - a fairly soft wood compared to pine, etc.
Thank you great video 🙏🏻 It makes me super sad tbh 😭 I live on Vancouver Island BC Canada and we are continuing to cut the big forests down until there is none left ! At this moment logging continues to decimate the big old coastal forest and now only a few people profit from this while many lose ! The majesty and feeling of walking through a huge grove of trees in an untouched forest is something most will never enjoy . And the trees that cleaned our air and water and gave homes to countless species of life are gone and never coming back until humanity is gone 🤷🏼♂️sad 😱
Removing all the giant trees must of been part of the last reset. We have some big trees left here in BC, it very special to be around them, magical and amazing!
I live in Kokomo Indiana , and in Highland park we have a sycamore tree stump , it says it's 57 feet around 18 feet wide and I'm not sure how tall it was but back when I was a kid we could actually go in it , but they stopped that due to vandalism .
Wow! 57 ft that is impressive! Early plant expert and ornithologist, Robert Ridgway had record of Sycamores in Wabash Valley, and in Mt Carmel, Ill. along the Indiana border in the 1800s, that were 20 ft diameter and 160 to 200 feet in length, (38 and 66 ft circ specimens reported) and Tulip Poplars 150 to 200 feet tall, and 6 to 12 feet diameter recorded by him on the ground with tape line. There are even records of Tulip poplars in Taylorsville, Ohio, 1888, that stood 240 feet high and 11 ft 8 in diameter, and one at Poplar Hill, Talbot Co. Maryland was reported in 1899 to have stood 250 feet high, 200 to first branch, and 20 feet diameter at the base, estimated age 1,000 years. These types of forest monarchs simply do not have the echosystems to sustain such potential anymore. White Pine trees cut down in Chautauqua Co, New York were measured at 268 feet long, and 220 feet in many cases, c. 1800-1850. single acres of pine forest could some times yield 100,000 board feet. All gone, less than 1% of the pristine pine Old growth remains East coast.
When I went to visit my family in Washington my uncle told me a story about a huge petrified tree. He found it on accident, went to lean over and fell back. Looked up to see a tree that was well over 20ft tall looked like it was cut perfectly he said. Was as wide as 3 1/2 car maybe 4. I laughed and said nuh uh. Then he pulled his phone out 😂 got pictures with this ginormous tree. Stone. Beautiful. Awe inspiring and breathtaking just to see part of it. He then showed me a video of the state rangers putting a mini fence around it to preserve it. After he notified the state, never got any real attention but this video made me think of that day he told me. :) thank you
i live in the yosemite region close to the mariposa grove of giants. A lot of train tracks and flumes as well as large trees. I have always questioned how they would have processed it. the flume closest to me goes from over 5000' elevation to virtually sea level in a short amount of time. keep up the good work.
One can only imagine the civilization and advanced type of husbandry that allowed these trees to flourish and this environment to become such a habitable place. Only in my Daydreams
For some reason TH-cam won’t let me LIKE 👍🏽 your videos, but I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS ‼️‼️😁😁👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽...I remember when I was 5 years old, my family moved to SAN JOSÉ , California and we drove through the REDWOOD FOREST and through a tree.... I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT PLACE‼️I would LOVE TO SEE THE REDWOOD FOREST AGAIN.... I hear some of it has been destroyed from the 🔥 “fires”( or D. E. W. 🤬)...The FOREST IS SURREAL AND MAGICAL 🌿✨Respect from Melbourne Florida 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
JB, the old photos are of large trees of that recent time. They are mere twigs compared to the mega trees that previously covered the Earth. Hangman 1128 channel has hours of video content on this. Cheers 🦘
The men in the pictures bodies don’t look like the bodies of men that wield axes or saws at all. Loggers are specimens even, old guys. It looked like they were just posing.
I was thinking The Same thing..they didn't use That tools they showed us...and in there Right Mind will go and Lay in a half logged Tree🤔🤔🤔? Most of That trees(i think) was cut by Giants that walk the earth...Theres Alot more To this universe...we dont know and those that Know...don't want Us to know. From South Africa.
There are huge stumps of trees cut in the 1920's all around my property here in Southwest Washington State. You can still see the spring board cuts in the Red Cedar stumps. The forest must of seemed endless back then. .
Awesome video. Most of these trees would still be alive today I bet if they were never cut down. I wonder if trees millions of years ago were even taller?
You might want to read Christies¨Greenwood¨ next to Proulxs ¨Barkskins¨ then you might get a more balanced view of these ¨bastards¨ of old. I am working in the field of woodland ecology myself and i can go a long way along the eco- warrior ride but these folks were our forefathers and mothers who were doing the best they could for the most part in a very harsh environment. Forestry back then was even more brutal than it is now!
The very large drawback from being human is pretty blatant in this video, as a human we can't help but kill a giant with no hesitation, they took history away from us, we deserve to have seen these majestic ones with no human backlash.
Every time I come back from a trip in the redwoods or sequoia I always wonder how many more trees were around that were even bigger than the ones we have now. Sobering thought that our largest trees now was previously thought as mid size.
They cut the huge Adirondack spruce almost into extinction. The huge poplar and chestnut were all destroyed in the Appalachia mountains. Not to mention the 3 million Buffalo that were killed just because they wanted to!
Notice how the father of the forest tree has alot of cut marks on the bottom as if they have had many goes at it. The previous pics showed a clean cut. And all the ppl standing around did not look like lumberjacks lol
@@theeasternfront6436 There is Carbon trees now but we taking the silicon trees. There is also a small amount of trees now. Look at all the deforestation going on and I don't mean just rain forest. The people are clearly getting small that's due to all the trees being cut down. Trees hold water, water is consciousness is and that's why the people do not have memories of the past. If you don't know this place was flooded as well.
The history of Pacific North West logging, both Canadian, and American has always fascinated me! Those guys were tough, and brave, it's amazing what they accomplished. To bad a lot of it was wasted on war.
You just described my grandpa warren groth he passed away last year at 99 He logged the u.p served In ww2 was at pearl harbor. I'm looking at his ww2 hat right here beside me hanging above my door. He meant alot to me
Accomplished? Destroying rare 2,500-year-old trees is an accomplishment? I don't get that. If something is irreplaceable - and I would argue that something that takes 100 human generations to replace is effectively irreplaceable - then destroying that thing is an atrocity, not an accomplishment.
@@flt528 exactly He is essential inglorifying a variety of masochism Nature was always from the genesis of it all intended to be our ally For a better life starting here and now for us and our progeny This isn’t associated with half baked psyops from the 60’s courtesy of descendants of high ranking officials in the military intelligence complex (, Jim Morrison ,frank zappa etc)
The top of a Redwood tree is a forest unto itself, with hundreds of species, both flora and fauna, a labyrinth of thriving dense intertwined foliage, so dense in fact, that a person at the top structure can lose direction. There is a New Yorker Magazine article on these trees and the biologist climbers from over ten years ago. Worth looking for.
I dont know if you know but all the double pics are actually 3d. If younlet your eyes see through the pic it will pop out at you! Primitive they say...hummm..seems pretty cool to me!
G'day JB, I really enjoyed the images of those old growth softwoods, the tallest tree that I know of was stumbled across by gold prospectors in the 1860s just a few miles from where I was born 100 years later in the Chum creek valley it had fallen naturally it measured 402 feet the common name is Mountain Ash even though they're not an Ash but a Eucalypt (E Regnans ) to reign, very similar to Oak in density and structural characteristics the largest flowering plant on Earth and up until I watched this video I thought the tallest tree 🇦🇺.
I live on southern Vancouver Island near Port Renfrew. I've stood beside what are purported to be the largest living Douglas Fir, Western Red Cedar and Sitka Spruce trees. They are about an hour and a half drive from Victoria BC. Love the old pictures.
They always go for the biggest first. As the chief conservation officer for the only eastern redwood forest in America (Crescent Ridge Dawn Redwoods Preserve), it turns my stomach to think there were once trees over 400 feet tall that were simply cut for "trophies." If you do build with redwood, please keep in mind that Simpson uses only plantation grown lumber; nothing is harvested from the wild.
@@sevenmile In photographs and bragging rights; the same way I might mount your trophy wife. Now, all jesting aside, look at some of those old pictures. It was always posing with the biggest and best. A trophy doesn't always have to be displayed to gain recognition. You can't display Mt. Everest in your living room, but a picture of yourself standing at the summit is one hell of a trophy now, isn't it?
It's mind blowing to think about how majestic the forest must have been when these photos were taken and it is sad that they're gone now. It must have been so beautiful before they were taken down
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea - Revelation 21
This makes no sense. What are you talking about?@@johnconnor48
This is probably the most depressing and eye opening video I've seen. Man imagine what itd be like if the entire west coast was covered by trees of this size. It would be a wondrous and magical sight to behold.
well 96% of the coastal redwoods were taken down by man...
So I suppose we should all live in "tee-pees"......oh , we can't , that's buffalo hide . Don't forget young man , People are also a part of the ecosystem .
@@helbitkelbit1790 pretty sure that wasnt what he was inferring... couldve atleast kept a few hundred acres of trees this size. Only thing it wouldve hurt is a greedy mans wallet.
@@helbitkelbit1790 whats wrong with using hide for housing. Earthen homes are also a option. Like soil or bricks, or rock. Nothing beats a nice rock house. How could i forget? I'm within the "ecosystem" every day. Someone liveing in a large city might forget but not me man. All i was doing was fantasizing what the coast looked like pre western expansion. How beautiful it must have been. How magical the area must have felt with a hundred times more giant trees towering above head.
Modern man definitely does not exist as a part of the ecosystem. We are a parasite on the planet. These forests would thrive and exist without us. We However would die if it were not for the things we consciously take from the world.
I fought fires in all these groves. The most unreal images is the landscape of where these trees grew and felled was of prehistoric times during the dinasors. The images of hundreds of stumps that were left after being logged. Incredible. One you may know is the Chicago stump. It was a tree cut down and a thirty foot section was transported by wagon to Chicago for the worlds fair. Everyone thought it was a hoax. They said no tree could be that big. There is a stump called the Chicago stump. We were assigned to protect the stumps from fire. The wood chips are still there. One firefighter found a 50 cent silver coin piece when we were gridding.
The coin was of 1907 the same year they stopped logging. The coin was in prestine condition not a scratch on it. It was never in circulation. It no doubt was payment to a logger who lost it before he made the 40 mile trip down to town in Fresno ca. How did they move these trees to the mills down the mountain by horse and wagon is beyond me. Our crew of 15 firefighters slept on a single stump 10 foot off the ground one night. Simply amazing to see this site of stumps. Get off the roads and hike in and see something that will stop you in your tracks and see something a pic will never do...
Thank you for this video.
We also found a flume when cutting a contingency line down hill on the American river. 3 am came and someone called me on radio and said we need to ID a structure. ??? Im thinking ?? I reach the site of an old flume 15 feet high almost filled with dirt 15' high 15' wide. Hugh unmarked piece of history not marked on any map. Imagine the structure filled with water and trees floating down them. Made of 26 foot by 2" thick by 10" wide planks of wood held together by enormous size beams sunk into the ground on the side of a mountain in the path of a fire. We saved all of it. When we found it it became an assignment to protect we did just that. MMU 4246 crew5.
Your story is amazing and thank you and your crew of fellow firefighters (MMU 4246 crew5) for preserving what is left of these majestic giants.
Wow! Incredible. That would of been amazing to have seen for sure especially the part about you guys sleeping on one of the stumps! Really cool information and story so thank you for sharing it!
Great story.. 🌲 t.y.
Awesome!
Would have been nice to see the trees and not just the stumps
I actually feel a little depressed that so many of these magnificent trees were taken down. Great video though.
I can understand what your saying. I don't think any one knew they lived so long. I think they thought the tey were exhaustible supply I of timber products which were badly needed the time.
How long would the felling base cut have taken to do
I agree... I was just about to post a comment very similar. I bet they thought they were just doing good. But, in reality, they were aiding in the destruction of our beautiful planet. I know we need certain things to live. But, we didn't need to cut down the oldest and biggest trees on the planet to make a house. I guess that's what happens when you're stupid. You do stupid shit.
Thinking of Tartaria in general makes me miss something I never had
@@superwardenguy this kind of feeling is relatable af, is hard ti explain but the "miss something I never had" fits it well
I once lived on the ridge of Mt Tamalpais in Marin Co, Ca. Every full moon, I would take a hike down into the forest of Muir woods at night and walk among the giant redwoods. Very grateful that a few of these magnificent beauties were, and still are protected.
That must be amazing!
That and Half-Moon Bay the on way....sweet
I lived on the road leading to Mt. Tam. We would camp there, go hiking. Magical place for sure.
What a magnificent collection of photos. The awesome size of these trees are hard to comprehend. But it is sad that we've destroyed so much of these giants.
We? All the people in this video are white.
My heart sank watching this video (thank you for putting it together!). The people in these photos don’t seem to appreciate or respect the beauty and necessity of these gigantic trees! They look stupidly arrogant. Why take them down? I’m glad you have these photos to refer to of what once existed here. 😢
Looks like there was a fuckin banger trees out there.
In my eyes, i think some of them could have been the biggest.
Arrogance,....
Defo.
Some of them pics where mateys are sitting or laying between the fell points.
Shame they didnt fall on 'em.
Its a shame the stumps of these old school fells cant be discovered. Maybe get an idea of if these poor fuckers (trees), that had the hardship of being fucked over by old father johnson, had a chance of being the biggest.
Looking back, this is nothing we should be proud of. Thankfully, Teddy Roosevelt's conservation legacy and establishment of 150 national parks helped preserve what we have today.
Or ashamed. People had to survive for us to be alive. Its sad but given our forest management the last 70 years they probably would have burned down.
@@danielevans3932 If you believe the fires were natural. Which they were not. If you believe Teddy Roosevelt was not a criminal. Which he was.
@@oinkooink I guess the fires were set by aliens or was it the CIA? The truth is your divisive and an enemy of this country. Teddy R. had more brains and guts than you could even imagine. He was and will always be a true American hero.
@@EC-sv1ns You're wrong on all counts.
@@danielevans3932 Big tree like that will survive a burn, you don't get to 1000 by being weak.
Same in Australia, the logging companies would hold competitions with finders fees for the tallest trees, and then chop them down, absolute tragedy. The old logging towns have similar pictures of massive stumps and logs from 100 plus years ago, those eucalypts are hard wood, not as wide as the red woods but records of well over 100m tall trees being felled, now only 1 tree in Tasmania has officially been measured to exceed 100m in all of Australia.
Several greater than 400 foot Douglas-firs existed outside of Mineral, Washington in 1975. One of them had a big portion of the top blown out and it was still over 400 feet tall.
Im sure theres atleast 10 that exist right now, but are just being kept secret for their protection.
So logging companies must be hush hush, so that no one knows there chopping down record breakers.
I live in Benton County, Oregon. I go to this store in a town next to where I live named Alsea and in the shop " The Mercantile" and they have a collection of the biggest record holding trees of the areas history. It's unbelievable.
It is my goal to live in Alsea. I'm from Corvallis, so I visit often, but I hope to make it my home one day. I feel blessed to live in this area where I can still drive old logging roads and hike the old-growth forests. The Pacific Northwest is magical. It breaks my heart to see images of these phenomenal trees felled by greed.
This says a lot about the mentality of the time, and for too many now. That everything was ours for the taking. Wonder if the thought "how long ya think to grow another" entered anyone's mind.
I'll be dead before I know
The Lord gave man Dominion over the Earth . Man is also part of the ecosystem .
Helbit Kelbit I thought Santa did that. It’s the same story told for the same reason to two different audiences. The North Pole workshop has Peter and the pearly gates at the east door. At least the children accepted reality at some point.
@@jimlawson7789 I think it is true , it's the people like you who crucified Christ . I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced . Will you be so sure when your day is near to say you don't believe . You had the chance , but you turned it down , now you can't retreat........
@@NZmellowyellow Just take a look around and what do you see ?..pain , suffering and misery . It's not the way that the world was meant . It's a pity you don't understand......
I've lived in Humboldt County California for the past 23 years. Those who venture "behind the Redwood Curtain", would do well to take the scenic alternative to the 101 freeway, called the "Avenue of the Giants". Its 22 miles are full of the Big Trees, ferns, winter streams, etc. Another no miss item would be the Samoa Cookhouse...one of the last few lumbermill cook houses (still in use today for the public). It's just west of Eureka, on the Samoa Peninsula. They also have one of the best logging museums around, complete with displays of original equipment loggers used back in the day.
Have done - just would have been incredible to see some of those they cut down - I still find it incredible they went at 'em - but I suppose $$$ talks - but some of the terrain & the accidents... Magnificent things - so long in the making....
@@SmallWonda so very true...on all counts. The lack of any concern for the environmental damage caused, was a hallmark of the US in the 19th & 20th centuries. Still, what was preserved by the likes of John Muir & many others, is spectacular. Many of the bigger trees along the Avenue...date back 2000+ years. And that...just blows my mind 🤯.
Have you seen the giant sequoia forest, in the mountains outside of Visalia? I hitchhiked Cali as a youth and spent time there. Mindblowing.
@@beerious8392 yup...been many times to Sequoia Park, as well as Yosemite👍(best in the off-season though...fewer people).
The first time I saw these beautiful trees was in 1957. I still remember that day, and I was only four years old.
That's sad that a man would even begin to think of cutting those majestic beauties down
It's the inbuilt arrogance, greed and treachery of humans that is the cause. Hope they are NOT RIP!!
Welcome to reality.
The big uns make a great groaning sound as they leave the stump then BOOM as they hit the dirt, beautiful to watch and hear
@@dennisthemenace57 That would be something to see and hear.
Exactly , sickening and disrespectful
My observation is 'why cut them?' There are obviously much smaller trees around them that could be used.
Exactly...🤔 It's a ritual. Everything in our "modern" era is a reenactment of Scriptural events... Starting with the Enochian saga of the Watchers cutting all the giant silica trees down. Pure evil pageantry born out of spite. Btw, it helps to understand that we are in Rev 20🧐👃
@@aneyethatcansee9045 So true!
Erasing history
@@tonyeff4447 disgusting truth...your exactly right.
I don’t think the 1800 technology could cut so cleanly
Great Video Jarid! You found some photos of interesting trees 🌳. Thanks 😊!
There are no trees left. They cut all the trees down. What you see are shrubs
The Map Deception
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DUH have you ever walked in the redwoods ? Smith River has many large trees here, come up and see for yourself ! There's even a grove of them along the Winchuck River in S Oregon.
not true lol. even the biggest trees on record from then are not too much bigger than the largest trees today.
There are more trees today then ever before in recorded history. Come to the Pacific Northwest of the US and you will see for your self, and there are plenty of huge trees left and still growing.
@@theeasternfront6436 98% of old growth coastal redwoods were cut down. there are more trees but they aren't as big
A great thing to have this video as a reminder of what has been lost. Thank you for making it
Could only imagine how big the root structure of these trees would have been.
It hasn't gone anywhere.
You can see the root structure of some that fall down naturally - not deep, more of a ball. I suppose the forest protects individual trees from wind. I slept in a hole left by a falling tree, decades ago.
@@daveyelmer3222 not deep correct and they need shallow water sources and fog mist to survive
Rooted.
I've been there as a young person. At the time I felt that was so wrong I cried. Family just looked at me like I was crazy. I've always been aware of the spirit ,Ora of plants ,trees,even people. I've been to places like garden of the gods in Colorado and old 🌎 structures ,forest of Europe. U can really feel the age of these places. It has always had a very strong part of the way I see and feel .
Enjoyed this but made me sad.
Me too...
I am not a fan of cutting trees down and for the longest time I thought it was immoral and should be banned. I have mellowed to allow for some tree felling. At some point, old growth has to be taken down for new ones to grow because old trees eventually rot.
This is sadder
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It's a two way street.
Why does it make u sad?
There are mountains that were once trees. Giant tree stumps that are petrified. Thanks for sharing.
I'm only at min 6, but I'm still puzzled as to what kind of saws, or blades, were used to make such a clean cut? How was such a tool transported into the forest? Where is the woodcutters' protective gear? Why don't I see more sawdust or chips on the forest floor? So many questions, I know!
I come from a long line of loggers and it is super fascinating how they would go about it in the early 1900’s But 150+ years ago we have no idea how they did it then especially with how big the old growths were.
FAKE!!! STAGED PHOTO'S - LIKE YOU SAY ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AND 0 PROOF!!🙂
I thought the same . But is it that the tree is so large the marks are small you end up with that clean look?
My thoughts too
@@Aurora-uq5hm I completely agree with hidden history and old world tech cover ups. But the logging in late 1880’s-now is well accounted for and understood. Many Pacific Northwest old museums portray and show how it was done and even my grandpa told me about how his dad was able to take down huge trees with small but innovative tactics. I don’t agree or like it all but that’s just the way it was. I think we forgot and were unable to make nice solid stone structures at that time due to lost knowledge so we just ripped up trees for wood, also allowing for greater truth cover ups regarding big trees.
Imagine that there are houses built somewhere from these old giants with 1000 year old lumber, and the owners don't even know.
That stuff is like stone too. At least the display pieces I’ve touched
@@michaeltaylors2456 The piece you touched may have been petrified or coated with a hard finish. Redwood is actually lightweight, quite soft and easy to cut, about like cedar, which is why they were able to move such giant pieces.
@@jamese9283 , Yes Redwood is quite soft, especially immature trees cut these days. Giant Sequoia, is quite a different species The photos are all Giant Sequoia trees.
A size perspective:
The lowest branches of a GS tree are often larger than the diameter of an average giant redwood’s main trunk !
@@michaeltaylors2456 I read that the Giant Sequoia was so brittle they would shatter when felled. Hardly good for anything but roof shakes. That would mean there’s not much left of the old giants in the modern day. Total waste of irreplaceable forests.
Sears and Roebuck houses are all over the place, I used to live in one.
It had beautiful redwood beams and floor joists
I feel like the people who took these trees down, stole something from all of us. All those that have destroyed our earth have robbed us of having a better way of life. It’s very sad to me.
The earth isn’t just dying it’s being poisoned and those responsible must pay
We're all responsible. If you drive a car or ride a bus, you're poisoning the earth. If you buy anything made of plastic - where is that plastic going to end up? You're poisoning the earth. If you're using a cell phone or a computer right now - where did all of those components come from, and where will they go? If you use any prescription medications, your sewage is now toxic to animals and other life forms. Where does it go?
Our entire lifestyle is poisonous, from A to Z. We blame the mega-corporations for their greed and thoughtlessness, but there would be no mega-corporations is there weren't billions of us supporting them.
Very true 👍
You would’ve done the same in those days as people had to find a way to survive and logging was one of those ways…most wouldn’t have if they could see the future but that would’ve meant starving tryin to figure out something else…it’s not that they wanted to destroy earth they just had to survive….try n put yerself back in those times and think how would you have made it….and be honest with yerself…I’m a tree man with the utmost respect for them but understand why they cut them and don’t make it seem like they were savages just destroying the land…we love it as much as anybody…..
Question is why they cut down those giant trees. For wood It was much easier to cut down smaller trees like those we have nowdays. Easier to process them and transport. Especially when they did everything by hands and horses. It just doesn't make sense.
Unless they wanted to destroy them on purpose.
Can just imagine how beautiful it was to see these majestic trees and smell the fresh clean air. I wonder what type of trees they were. Do you have the photos saved some where shareable? Thanks For sharing
Great collection of pictures! I always love the Giants! The size of pine cones is equally amazing!🌲
The pinecones of redwoods are tiny, about the size of a grape.
I lived on the Olympic Peninsula for 3 years. Was able to do so without working for 2 of those years. Hiked nearly 2,000 miles throughout that forest. Happy to say - there are still sections with original old growth. Even in areas that were clear cut 100 years ago…patches of old growth remain. The spacing between the original trees was amazing.
How cool way back when... the giant trees, giant bugs, F-ing big lizards
@@MrSpikebender But people at that time were giants, too. On some old lithographs, and paintings you could see a man holding a lion under his arm. Or, a cow by her tail
@@ygagarin5572 You would be referring to King Gilgamesh. Catalina island is very nice, I have been there twice.
It is sad to see how they all stand in front of these giants proud of their own destruction . It is very sad to see what humanity does to these gentle giants that are our best friends here on earth
As you sit on furniture made of wood typing, in your house made of wood. Grow up child.
Biff’s Big Wheel most of these people crying about their causes are meant for other people not them. They can have or do whatever is best for them but the rest of are criticized for doing the same. They need a good slapping up side the head!!!
There used to be some really nice trees where your house now stands.
And some pretty wildflowers.
@@sevenmile ya I cut them all down and burnt them in my wood boiler to stay warm after the first winter in my new house. As for the wildflowers I just sprayed them with diesel fuel and once they died I burned them off.
How did u know?
@@kylebrown8891 LOL!
Magnificently beautiful trees. Awesome post. Really eye-opening as to “our” history.
RIP Mother of the Forest, and all the other trees we will never get to see. I grew up near a grove of Giant Sequoia, and there's nothing like walking underneath them. The redwoods are a treasure we need to protect.
I've been to Sequoia National Park....and it is unreal to see trees that large. Doesn't even seem like real life......it's kind of sad to see these ancient giants being taken down. Knowing there will probably never be a time in human history where things will be able to attain this stature.
there will, and have been in the past. if its happening now it happened in a previous reset. We only have like what.. millions of earth years that have passed. We just happen to live at the end of the curve.
Agreed Fukem.
The Earth will flourish again once you remove the devil's from it
Yes, from shear determination and grit these men were determined to bring down an unconceivably beautiful living creation from the divine. How misguided we are.
Man has always destroyed himself by his wisdom. All we seem to be able to do is destroy things. Sad...
Do you live in a wooden house?
Didn't God give Man dominion over the earth and its creatures??
Thank you, really enjoyed watching this video. Loved seeing those magnificent ancient trees.
Most tree species never stop growing until stopped by disease, pestilence or other creatures like us mainly.
yup and most of those trees were of the few left of the elder generations of trees new trees will never be as big
just as we are weaker than our grandfathers on testosterone
new trees are weaker than old growths we as a Species needs to protect all the old growth trees left and start cloning and cross breeding projects for said oldgroth trees we we use old growth pollen fr new groth trees and old growth pollen on old growth trees as well ascloning old growth trees and spreading the clones to have more old g rowth bio diversity
The inherent inclination to rise to the stars is also on their genome
Vancouver, WA, Seattle, WA, Bellingham WA, Vancouver BC area valley bottom land all had 500-1000 year old Douglas firs that averaged 200-400 feet tall. There are reports of douglas firs topping 400 feet. Its absolutely mind boggling. One that was reported at over 450 ft tall on the Nooksack river nicknamed the Nooksack Giant was claimed that the first branch was well over 200 feet up the tree and that it was around 500 years old if I remember correctly. Imagine if it was still standing...
I live in bellingham lmao
Yeah i go up to the mountains all the time. Have yet to see a doug taller than 200, but im probably not going far enough. Really sucks that zero of them exist in the lowlands though.
@@cmw184 There's dozens of parks that have mature 2nd growth douglas firs that are over in the 200-250 foot range. St Edwards State Park, OO Denny, Bridle Trails, Boeing Creek, Schmits Preserve has a few as well as Seward Park. Lord Hill Park, Redmond Watershed Preserve to name some others... up your way you have Deception Pass that has some good examples of mature firs that ostensibly has a few firs peaking over 200 feet even that close to the coast. Rockport State Park as a good example; there's douglas fir's there that easily top 250 feet and give a good glimpse into what top tier old growth firs would be like. Most giant's you find on common trails exist essentially as a memorial or statue, and never in big clumps unless you really go looking for it in very particular and remote areas but even then your at a much higher elevation. There are some lowland old growth fir forests that hug the PCT just north of Cascade locks as well that are defininetly 220-250 feet as well. But yes MOST is gone, a good example is Ravenna Park... we had douglas firs that were 330-350 feet if i remember correctly like right next to University of Washington up until like the 40s then a state department essentially cleared them overnight in the 40s? Its crazy dude....
Some more lowland trees over 200' in the region include Lake Crescent area, and obviously Hoh river rainforest area, Boulder River trail starts in very obvious clear cut regrowth then enters old growth cedars up to 15 feet wide at the end.
My grandma has 40ish acres in Skagit County that has a 400+ year old Douglas fir with burn marks on it that's over 200 feet tall with the top blown off that's how I became interested!
@@SasquatchPicker thats so cool man
Thanks a bunch ill check em out
@@cmw184 One more point. Many think the coast redwoods as the tallest trees in the world when genetic sequencing has shown that the maximum height of each species as like 430 for redwoods vs 460ish for douglas firs. The genetic variability in coast redwoods and giant sequoias are also vary limited. Meaning the average tree will be very similar. In Douglas fir the genetic variability is huge, meaning the width, height, shape, etc of each individual douglas fir has huge variability. 95% of coast redwood has been logged, while 99.99% of old growth douglas fir valley bottom ecosystems have been logged. Which tree's did loggers first chop? The tallest, widest, straightest trees. The ones that were abnormalities in their genetics, the ones that gave shade to all other canopies. The one that gave wind protection for all the other giant tops. So it wasn't EVERY tree was 300-400+ feet tall, it was that Douglas fir genetics had the capability left alone in the right environment to get that tall. We will never know their true potential before anthropogenic influence.
The tallest recorded tree to ever exist was called the nooksack giant. I actually live less than 40 miles away from where it was speculated to be, (barely any records were kept) it was said to be 465 feet tall.. many more were likely around here, but cut down by early settlers in the 1850s-60s.
The species was douglas fir.
The tallest douglas fir to exist rn is in oregon. Around 327 feet tall. The location is kept private though for good reason.
ABSOULUTLY AMAZING !good job guys on this Historic video .
Less than 5% of the old growth redwoods remain. They were probably so beautiful.
Redwood forests produce 7x as much oxygen as rainforest
Incredible image's but it the same time truly heartbreaking. Why do we seem to destroy any beautiful or majestic natural thing on earth & all for the greed of money non the less. Countless generations of humans before then had the common sense to leave those trees alone & it wasn't because they didn't have the means of chopping them down I mean look at the ancient structures they built they had far more ability & skill then we do today yet not until the last 100 years or so were we so ignorant & detached from nature to begin chopping down practically ever giant ancient tree around among other mindless damage to our home & the place that supports us. It makes me ashamed to be a tied too the species.
The elite knows they play a big part in our lives, they have a soul too
nonsense
if u notice these guys are white, European descent, that tells yOU something
Right on! You got to the heart of the matter.
This was long b4 anyone knew any better. And this was survival. U do what u gotta when u gotta.
Great picture compilation. Id rather still have the trees tho. The music is kinda relaxing but it also reflects the anxiety & stagnation of spirit in the modern day, as i keep expecting to hear.. " We are experiencing an unusually high call volume. Your call is important to us & will be answered in the order called. Thank you for your patience."
Yes...Seven Bridges Road would be a good one
Those guys are so lucky to have been able to experience cutting down such large trees. So much resource in one shot and they knew it was special, that's why they took pictures.
My Dad and Uncle were loggers right after WWII. I have a picture of them with a log that was as wide as their log truck. I've watched big timber get cut down before. It's not easy and large ones take several men, as you see in the photos. The are very proud of the accomplishment, as they should be. It's very dangerous and very physical. Remember, they didn't understand anything about old-growth forest. That wasn't even a blip on the radar. Nothing was titled Old Growth. I was just the forest to them. They were paid by the board foot from mills to log. So they logged.
Logging literally built The Pacific Northwest and Northern California. Without logging there wouldn't have been a gold and silver rush. There would have been no water flumes to haul water through the mountains for the residents. So, for the conservationists, I solute you but quit villainizing innocent people. It's the greedy ones who screwed it all up, not the residents trying to earn a living and feed their families. Young folks don't understand. One day, when they're 40 or 50, they'll realize, like I did, how misled and radicalized they are. That's when they will begin to grow up. Sad, because in my day, people grew up before they married and had families. They relied on their parents to guide them through life and how to survive. It sounds like a harsh, but this is how family units bond. With very little social pressure, families banded together to help each other and make sure everyone survived the winter or rebuild their barns, rounded up cattle. Communities were a team effort. Everyone participated. We lost that.
This is because our government has been manipulating everything we see, hear and speak for decades and it's on steroids as of April 2023.
Today, you can't go to the gas station without running into a mentally ill person and they come in all flavors.
I blame the media, the press, the government. But I don't blame US. We're the victims here. My whole life has been a psyop on the American citizens. They've turned us from men like we see here to couch potato, drunken, vulgar shells of human beings, tamed and distracted, fat and clueless, both men and women. Recipe for tyranny, wouldn't you say? Hmmm
Thanks for listening and I hope I sparked someone's mind. Look in the mirror first. Firing arrows at something you actually know nothing about is dangerous, mean, and very destructive with all kinds of ripple effects on others. It also assists the alphabet agencies do their "job" for their overlords, whoever they may be.
Such an inspirational comment. Im absolutely in your Side in all your points. ITS the same Here in Germany with politics.
@@germancarspotter4514 Thank you! That's very sweet of you to say. I had to re-read it and I found some typos. I hate that! 😂Glad you liked it. Take good care! It's game on now. Stay frosty!
I don't blame the people in the photos because you are right, and I agree with your comments on modern-day Americans.
But cutting down historical and century old trees was and is wrong. They provided a lot for their ecosystems. Justifying logging by saying it built America and helped the gold rush is giving an excuse to the same greedy people you pointed out in your post. It was wrong, and it is wrong.
Progress should not be at the expensive of our environment. You are only making things worst for you grand children who will suffer the consequences of these actions. Completely contracting all the points you made about family.
@@anthonyreis3533 I only need one Argument, old growths Take away the watet and nutrients of smaller trees, thats why Ther either stand Alone, or have only few surviving trees next to Them that grew when this big trees hat Bad Times.
@@germancarspotter4514 Firstly, all of these trees were in forests of trees similar in nature. So, it isn't taking enough resource to inhibit the growth of life around them only in its immediate area. Secondly, one 300-foot tree does more for its environment such as carbon capture, oxygen supply and animal habitat than a number of smaller trees in the same area the large one takes up which would grow smaller and provide less because of the competition for space. We aren't even going to get into the fact that replanting several smaller trees after you take down the bigger one would take decades or centuries to grow large enough to replace that one large tree that was cut down. Obviously, it's a balance in managing large and small trees.
Hey Jarid, maybe I’m getting jaded looking at these photo compilations- but they seem to be staged or multiple glass slides photo shopped processing. There ain’t NO WAY they recreated that tree in a building with “Actual Tree Bark” for a World’s Fair! I didn’t see which one it was for! Look how hard it is for a Lilliputian size Xmas tree at NYC … so much stuff to binge watch on a Saturday afternoon- so much better than the boob tube 💯🎯thanks as always my friend!
"Largest tree to ever exist"
Humans: CUT IT DOWN!!
Yep! Never will understand that. Been growing for prolly 500+ years. But because its huge! I guess...
Native Americans: White People always up to no good.
@@chrisgarcia5462 word
Some people only just blame previous generations. You never walked in a mans shoes or raised a family 140 years ago!
Most men today can’t even work for a hard days pay for a honest day labor!
@@chrisgarcia5462 White people feed all foreign races flooding into our Nations never have the other races done such a thing.
Something amazing: *exists*
Humans: "Let's destroy it!"
they were likely paid to do it. Not because they needed the wood.
Why would you cut down something unmanageable like that?
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Oh shut up.
It ain’t all humans in these pics just white people 🤣
It’s tragic…they were the lungs of the world…god knows how old they were!😳
Completely agree...wicked genocide.
You may write God with a capital.
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You can blame Randolph William Hurst, the Dupont's & others. They outlawed Hemp because Hurst invested in forrests to supply paper for his newspapers DuPont just invented nylon & wanted to sell it to the US Navy for ropes. Hemp could do all of that with a crop that would replenish itself every year & without the pollution.
...tree's are lungs, rivers are blood flow, lava is well what you'd think and maybe gold veins are the nervous system, plus so much more as us animals don't evolve to our enviroment, our planet changes us to meet her needs.
So we killed ourselves decades ago by changing our ecosystem before knowing how bad we can screw things up, and we keep messing things up.
We can create all the cures we want but eventually nature will find a way to create balance in her system. I think we could use 5 years off and eat what already made and let nature balance out for that time.
Those trees & photos were absolutely magnificent the music was so incredible passionate it was a perfect fit just perfect 👌🏿 Thank you I may have too subscribe
Thanks Frank. I appreciate you being here
In themid-1970s I was working in San Diego, helping to renovate Victorian houses built in the 1880s-1900s. We were converting them from private homes to office space, etc. We had to be careful removing and rebuilding windows, floors, woodwork, etc. because they were made from California Redwood - a fairly soft wood compared to pine, etc.
Giant trees, giant people, giant books ,giant doors to castles. Maybe we had giants way back in the day
I relate to trees more than I do most people, so I just found that terribly sad....couldn't watch much of it. 😩
Same
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same here, convinced i was one in a past life!
these kind of things fascinate me. You wouldn't believe it without the pictures. wow!
Thank you great video 🙏🏻
It makes me super sad tbh 😭
I live on Vancouver Island BC Canada and we are continuing to cut the big forests down until there is none left ! At this moment logging continues to decimate the big old coastal forest and now only a few people profit from this while many lose ! The majesty and feeling of walking through a huge grove of trees in an untouched forest is something most will never enjoy . And the trees that cleaned our air and water and gave homes to countless species of life are gone and never coming back until humanity is gone 🤷🏼♂️sad 😱
"Not until the last tree is cut down, the last fish is pulled from the water and the last river polluted will we realize that we can't eat money".
The saddest thing I know. The peace that these forests bring us forever gone. Enjoy the last bits and remember them.
Removing all the giant trees must of been part of the last reset. We have some big trees left here in BC, it very special to be around them, magical and amazing!
Truly amazing, I'm a retired Sawyer, and Logger, I am vary much at a lack for words. Thank you for making this vid. I enjoyed it vary much.
Thank you so much for throwing in the bathroom section. Finally, an answer to the missing bathrooms.
I live in Kokomo Indiana , and in Highland park we have a sycamore tree stump , it says it's 57 feet around 18 feet wide and I'm not sure how tall it was but back when I was a kid we could actually go in it , but they stopped that due to vandalism .
Wow! 57 ft that is impressive! Early plant expert and ornithologist, Robert Ridgway had record of Sycamores in Wabash Valley, and in Mt Carmel, Ill. along the Indiana border in the 1800s, that were 20 ft diameter and 160 to 200 feet in length, (38 and 66 ft circ specimens reported) and Tulip Poplars 150 to 200 feet tall, and 6 to 12 feet diameter recorded by him on the ground with tape line. There are even records of Tulip poplars in Taylorsville, Ohio, 1888, that stood 240 feet high and 11 ft 8 in diameter, and one at Poplar Hill, Talbot Co. Maryland was reported in 1899 to have stood 250 feet high, 200 to first branch, and 20 feet diameter at the base, estimated age 1,000 years. These types of forest monarchs simply do not have the echosystems to sustain such potential anymore. White Pine trees cut down in Chautauqua Co, New York were measured at 268 feet long, and 220 feet in many cases, c. 1800-1850. single acres of pine forest could some times yield 100,000 board feet. All gone, less than 1% of the pristine pine Old growth remains East coast.
When I went to visit my family in Washington my uncle told me a story about a huge petrified tree. He found it on accident, went to lean over and fell back. Looked up to see a tree that was well over 20ft tall looked like it was cut perfectly he said. Was as wide as 3 1/2 car maybe 4. I laughed and said nuh uh. Then he pulled his phone out 😂 got pictures with this ginormous tree. Stone. Beautiful. Awe inspiring and breathtaking just to see part of it. He then showed me a video of the state rangers putting a mini fence around it to preserve it. After he notified the state, never got any real attention but this video made me think of that day he told me. :) thank you
i live in the yosemite region close to the mariposa grove of giants. A lot of train tracks and flumes as well as large trees. I have always questioned how they would have processed it. the flume closest to me goes from over 5000' elevation to virtually sea level in a short amount of time. keep up the good work.
A lot of mystery in these photos
One can only imagine the civilization and advanced type of husbandry that allowed these trees to flourish and this environment to become such a habitable place. Only in my Daydreams
The largest trees take around 1000 years to reach these sizes, yet almost none of this timber is still in use today a mere 120 years later.
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JB, the old photos are of large trees of that recent time.
They are mere twigs compared to the mega trees that previously covered the Earth.
Hangman 1128 channel has hours of video content on this.
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@@alanriley9754 SATAN LOOSED GOLDEN AGE PAST ARMAGEDDON WAS MUD FLOOD PREPARE for FINAL JUDGMENT
The fallen angels are said to have cut them down.
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Kinda heartbreaking really. Spent much time in California forests in my life. Hard to imagine what it was like before we chopped it down...
Exactly. We see these magnificent trees and the first thing humans think of is "lets chop them down" truly heartbreaking
Its gets even worse when you realise the trees they cut down were possibly over 3000 years old.
The men in the pictures bodies don’t look like the bodies of men that wield axes or saws at all. Loggers are specimens even, old guys. It looked like they were just posing.
I was thinking The Same thing..they didn't use That tools they showed us...and in there Right Mind will go and Lay in a half logged Tree🤔🤔🤔? Most of That trees(i think) was cut by Giants that walk the earth...Theres Alot more To this universe...we dont know and those that Know...don't want Us to know. From South Africa.
This has to be my favorite, thank you
IT IS HEART BREAKING THAT THEY JUST CUT THEM DOWN.
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There are huge stumps of trees cut in the 1920's all around my property here in Southwest Washington State. You can still see the spring board cuts in the Red Cedar stumps. The forest must of seemed endless back then. .
Man itd be so cool to find one of those big stumps
Awesome video. Most of these trees would still be alive today I bet if they were never cut down. I wonder if trees millions of years ago were even taller?
So these are the bastards that cut down all those amazing trees.
They did more that that, is very sad what they done look up giant trees in youtuve
You might want to read Christies¨Greenwood¨ next to Proulxs ¨Barkskins¨ then you might get a more balanced view of these ¨bastards¨ of old. I am working in the field of woodland ecology myself and i can go a long way along the eco- warrior ride but these folks were our forefathers and mothers who were doing the best they could for the most part in a very harsh environment. Forestry back then was even more brutal than it is now!
Let’s take out their children!!! 😂
They were very hungry bastards. With hungry children.
The very large drawback from being human is pretty blatant in this video, as a human we can't help but kill a giant with no hesitation, they took history away from us, we deserve to have seen these majestic ones with no human backlash.
Every time I come back from a trip in the redwoods or sequoia I always wonder how many more trees were around that were even bigger than the ones we have now. Sobering thought that our largest trees now was previously thought as mid size.
They cut the huge Adirondack spruce almost into extinction. The huge poplar and chestnut were all destroyed in the Appalachia mountains. Not to mention the 3 million Buffalo that were killed just because they wanted to!
Cutting down these trees was a horrible crime against nature.
Notice how the father of the forest tree has alot of cut marks on the bottom as if they have had many goes at it. The previous pics showed a clean cut. And all the ppl standing around did not look like lumberjacks lol
Photographers are the unsung heroes of history.
I very much appreciate the work you put into this but it fills me with a deep sadness.
My heart pours Jarid, thank you for your contribution to history
The amount of engineering and physical man power back in those was absolutely amazing.
Back before regulations... they are good and bad. They inhibit enginuity, yet increase safety.
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Those handsome old giants did not deserve that treatment. I really feel very sad when I see photographs of the sort😢.
Removing the last remnants of the land of giants
Or removing the oxygen so the people don't grow as tall and the lack of oxygen is dumbing the people down.
There are still plenty of giant trees.
@@monatomic There are more trees now then in recorded history. Read something other than panic porn. Also, People are taller now.
@@theeasternfront6436 There is Carbon trees now but we taking the silicon trees. There is also a small amount of trees now. Look at all the deforestation going on and I don't mean just rain forest. The people are clearly getting small that's due to all the trees being cut down. Trees hold water, water is consciousness is and that's why the people do not have memories of the past. If you don't know this place was flooded as well.
@@monatomic Dude you’re on another planet.
Great collection of photos love it, but tainted with saddness that non of these Goliaths are still standing.
"Wow! Look at the size of those trees. They must be giants, the largest ones ever. Let's cut them down."
Yep, human ego. "We CAN do it! Not, "Should we do it?
Right on! I'm glad I came across your channel. New sub here.
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What a great video sir, thank you for the time and effort invested.
The history of Pacific North West logging, both Canadian, and American has always fascinated me! Those guys were tough, and brave, it's amazing what they accomplished. To bad a lot of it was wasted on war.
You just described my grandpa warren groth he passed away last year at 99
He logged the u.p served In ww2 was at pearl harbor. I'm looking at his ww2 hat right here beside me hanging above my door. He meant alot to me
Accomplished? Destroying rare 2,500-year-old trees is an accomplishment? I don't get that. If something is irreplaceable - and I would argue that something that takes 100 human generations to replace is effectively irreplaceable - then destroying that thing is an atrocity, not an accomplishment.
@@flt528 exactly
He is essential inglorifying a variety of masochism
Nature was always from the genesis of it all intended to be our ally
For a better life starting here and now for us and our progeny
This isn’t associated with half baked psyops from the 60’s courtesy of descendants of high ranking officials in the military intelligence complex (, Jim Morrison ,frank zappa etc)
Amazing trees that the world will never see such sizes again....
When humans have managed to kill ourselves , nature will eventually bounce back and trees will once again grow this big no problem 👍🏽
sanctimonious tool...
Just amazing,thankyou
This honestly makes me sad. But great collection of history.
A damn shame they didn’t save more of these trees.
The top of a Redwood tree is a forest unto itself, with hundreds of species, both flora and fauna, a labyrinth of thriving dense intertwined foliage, so dense in fact, that a person at the top structure can lose direction. There is a New Yorker Magazine article on these trees and the biologist climbers from over ten years ago. Worth looking for.
Thxs for making this bud
I dont know if you know but all the double pics are actually 3d. If younlet your eyes see through the pic it will pop out at you! Primitive they say...hummm..seems pretty cool to me!
a total shame. you will not see them again anytime . maybe another 500-700 years later. heartbreaking
G'day JB, I really enjoyed the images of those old growth softwoods, the tallest tree that I know of was stumbled across by gold prospectors in the 1860s just a few miles from where I was born 100 years later in the Chum creek valley it had fallen naturally it measured 402 feet the common name is Mountain Ash even though they're not an Ash but a Eucalypt (E Regnans ) to reign, very similar to Oak in density and structural characteristics the largest flowering plant on Earth and up until I watched this video I thought the tallest tree 🇦🇺.
I live on southern Vancouver Island near Port Renfrew. I've stood beside what are purported to be the largest living Douglas Fir, Western Red Cedar and Sitka Spruce trees. They are about an hour and a half drive from Victoria BC. Love the old pictures.
They always go for the biggest first. As the chief conservation officer for the only eastern redwood forest in America (Crescent Ridge Dawn Redwoods Preserve), it turns my stomach to think there were once trees over 400 feet tall that were simply cut for "trophies." If you do build with redwood, please keep in mind that Simpson uses only plantation grown lumber; nothing is harvested from the wild.
So where does one mount a 400 ft trophy tree?
@@sevenmile In photographs and bragging rights; the same way I might mount your trophy wife. Now, all jesting aside, look at some of those old pictures. It was always posing with the biggest and best. A trophy doesn't always have to be displayed to gain recognition. You can't display Mt. Everest in your living room, but a picture of yourself standing at the summit is one hell of a trophy now, isn't it?
"I want to build a 50 passengers boat."
"Alright. I will sell you these two trees."