I was walking around Azoria in May. Struck by how hard it would be to maintain a population at the site, plus it would have been competing politically with Vrontas to control local produce and trade? As a result were the local elites able to afford much meat consumption? Is your sample small because the total animal remains is small?
Good questions. 1) Vronda and Kastro were abandoned prior to the construction of most of the settlement at Azoria, so no need for competition. In fact we think they moved to Azoria. Though not proven. 2) the number of animal specimens is quite large. Perhaps the largest sample (or near to it) from this period in the Greek world. That said, we have not found nor excavated the cemetery. So, we do not know what proportion of the diet was animal protein.
Given that it's mostly elite produce (wine & olive oil) stored in the excavated houses, and not staples. We hypothesize these were town houses for an elite who had larger farmsteads in Coastal plain below. We have only excavated the upper terraces, the urban core, of the site. So these were more elite citizens most likely
i visited Crete two or three times in the early 70s. we traveled to that end of the island looking for shells on the hillside and possible city state locations. i think we found some ruins but can't really remember to much except the lack of vegetation. rocky and dry. i enjoy your talks and stay healthy
Hey Flint. Just came on here to say I saw your discussion on the Joe Rogan podcast, and as an avid fan of the podcast and of Graham I found your point of view very valid and well presented. It was clearly a difficult podcast but it was clear to me that you were operating on facts with proof and evidence that has been cross checked with other professionals, rather than a want to believe that something is man made - even if it potentially is! I found Graham focusing on personal differences rather than presenting an argument for archaeological ideas, which was an unproductive use of time. The Bimini road could well be man made and if it is, it's an incredible story - but the giants causeway also looks well man made and has obviously been proven otherwise. I'm sure you will get lots of mixed feedback, but I just wanted to let you know that I appreciated your appearance and it has left me wanting to hear more of your ideas without interruption.
Coming over from the JRE with Graham. (Found your talk on seeds & plants very interesting. Cant wait to hear more.)
I was walking around Azoria in May. Struck by how hard it would be to maintain a population at the site, plus it would have been competing politically with Vrontas to control local produce and trade? As a result were the local elites able to afford much meat consumption? Is your sample small because the total animal remains is small?
Good questions. 1) Vronda and Kastro were abandoned prior to the construction of most of the settlement at Azoria, so no need for competition. In fact we think they moved to Azoria. Though not proven. 2) the number of animal specimens is quite large. Perhaps the largest sample (or near to it) from this period in the Greek world. That said, we have not found nor excavated the cemetery. So, we do not know what proportion of the diet was animal protein.
Given that it's mostly elite produce (wine & olive oil) stored in the excavated houses, and not staples. We hypothesize these were town houses for an elite who had larger farmsteads in Coastal plain below. We have only excavated the upper terraces, the urban core, of the site. So these were more elite citizens most likely
@@FlintDibble thanks for taking the time to give interesting responses. Love your work.
If you restart the excavations and want a lackey, I'll be there in a flash. Lovely place and people
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i visited Crete two or three times in the early 70s. we traveled to that end of the island looking for shells on the hillside and possible city state locations. i think we found some ruins but can't really remember to much except the lack of vegetation. rocky and dry. i enjoy your talks and stay healthy
Great job
Man, I just love your unfaltering enthusiasm, Flint. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Love your content!
Came here from Gutsick Gibbon :)
Flint dibble is actually a real person 🤯
Cool video...
Hey Flint. Just came on here to say I saw your discussion on the Joe Rogan podcast, and as an avid fan of the podcast and of Graham I found your point of view very valid and well presented. It was clearly a difficult podcast but it was clear to me that you were operating on facts with proof and evidence that has been cross checked with other professionals, rather than a want to believe that something is man made - even if it potentially is! I found Graham focusing on personal differences rather than presenting an argument for archaeological ideas, which was an unproductive use of time. The Bimini road could well be man made and if it is, it's an incredible story - but the giants causeway also looks well man made and has obviously been proven otherwise. I'm sure you will get lots of mixed feedback, but I just wanted to let you know that I appreciated your appearance and it has left me wanting to hear more of your ideas without interruption.
Not a chance you are an avid fan of graham 😂
It was about time someone will put an end to this nonsense about the lost great lost civilisation. Great job in JRE.