One Piece Chapter 1123 Review: THE END IS HERE
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This guy has the audacity to mention the Wano analysis bro I had kids and started a family since you announced that vid
I actually believe you.
😂😂 In his last video he commented saying it will be in September
Crazy part is my child was born in June, so I'm pretty sure I have too lmfao 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
@@HOISTIT Congratulations.
Egghead analysis coming before Wano analysis is crazy
Less crazy than him giving it an actual date
Praising the previous arc before sh*tting on another one is a smart way to mitigate “hater” discourse.
Reminds me of the joke on social media: 'We're getting .... before gta 6'
😂
Bounty prediction plz
That's actually been his plan for a while now. 😅
Bro i spent the entire arc beliving in Kizaru, this was my "the raid will fail" moment 😭
What did you think he would do?
@@jordanvance1657 I was hoping he would change sides cuz of his dialogue or do something to help the strawhats in secret. I guess theres a small chance he was the one that gave Luffy the food but idk anymore
@mingaubr1417 he not going to change right away
Don't get too caught up in fan theories. Just consider possibilities, but don't put too much stake in them
@@mingaubr1417if he did, that’s huge. Not sure when we’ll find out who did but if it was, again, huge development and clear sign he’s changing sides.
The man really is connected to Oda. "Wano anlalysis coming out in september" sounds so much like "One Piece will end in 5 years"
I'm convinced we probably gonna get GTA 6 before the Wano review
didnt you listen he said it comes out in sebtember
@@griswo3272r/woosh
@@griswo3272he’s been saying it’s coming soon for months. He’s worse than carti atp. I won’t believe him til I see the video posted in my subscription feed 😂
@@griswo3272 every year has a September
@@griswo3272 he didn’t say in what year
Oda giving VP’s “It will be our victory” speech bubble the same black background layout as the gear 5 bubble added so much weight to it 🐐
Lets not forget that the speech was cut off in the middle, we didn't hear the whole message
Great review as always. That said, the point you made is like saying Gold Roger should have exposed the World Government 20 years ago, though. I feel that the elements at play (Roger, Oden, Shanks, Vegapunk etc.) all understood that, to beat the supremely powerful opponent, they needed to give the world enough time and only strike at the right moment. They all probably knew the moment was coming but it was not yet now.
Morj dodging that Wano Analysis like UI Goku😂
I think VP learned that he shouldn’t jump to conclusions about who’s at fault with him assuming Lilith was the traitor before being proven wrong. I think he didn’t want to do that with the world government
I understand and don’t necessarily disagree with Morj’s issue with VP not talking about the WG trying to kill everyone. However “there’s a bomb in the building and this person is trying to kill you” isn’t the same nor will it cause the same kind of chaos as “there’s a bomb in the building and the police/military are trying to kill you”.
That’s a very different type of chaos.
Morj, I think the reason Vegapunk didn't say it is the World Government who is the main threat is because like he said, he still can't figure out what the actual WG is. It seems as though Vegapunk never discovered the truth about the existence of Imu, and maybe also his search for perfection made him avoid telling everyone without fulling knowing who is behind it all. Also he may be worried about if he blames it just on the Celestial Dragons that they could potentially use their WG power to crush any countries that rebel against them *then they give him a real example with Lulusia.
Fan of the hoodie Morj 😉🇮🇪
The main reason why vegapunk didnt expose the WG as the ones who nuked lulusia in his transmission is cuz it would turn his message from being about a call to action for the world to chase the one piece so that someone can use it to save the world to a political driven chaos of ppl being pro and anti vegapunk or pro WG anti WG due to the WG spinning vegapunk as a propagandist for the revolutionary army, sure theres chaos regardless after his message but now its focused on the one piece and increasing luffys infamy. Only dragon and the few countries organically revolting will handle the WG side of things till Luffy faces Imu
Vegapunk didnt directly said the World Goverment was evil, but wasnt that basically implied when he said the war from 800 years ago was still not over and that the desdendants of the 20 Kingdoms are the WG? Idk it seems pretty obvious people can put 2 and 2 together.
nah, because that can also be interpreted as the "evil" ancient kingdom is still around in some way and the WG is still trying to protect everyone.
People think wg is good. Vegapunk says that the war is not over. They are going to think that the bad guys are still around.
@SpikedKirby
Vegapunk started his speech by specifically pointing out that the World Goverment has made even looking into the pobeglyphs and lost history illegal and a crime, that alone would make them suspicious into the eyes of many people, he even alluded to being assassinated by someone for this, again, people can put 2 and 2 together. Especially since MANY countries like Dressrosa, Fishman Island, Alabasta, Water 7, and Wano dont exactly like the WG to begin with.
Exactly. People just wanted everything to be spoondfed..then complain about dragging issues😂
If, somehow, the actual One Piece and process involved in finding it and/or using it leads to the evils of the world government being revealed, it may make some more sense as to why Vegapunk withheld that information. Although that kind of brings into question just how much Vegapunk knew about the One Piece itself and how it would presumably play into the Dawn.
I think Morj is forgetting that the world government is multiple factions in 1. The decision makers for the world government are more celestial dragons than military.... so with that in mind, im sure vegapunk/oda took that into consideration for the speech In the end, there could be some of the world government on the side of justice fighting WITH the strawhats so yea i get why vegapunk wouldnt want to cast all the blame of them.
I must have missed something but there are multiple spots were the message stopped so it could be we just missed that part of VP pointing the finger at
Given Kizaru's behavior in Egghead, I'm now compelled to believe that Vegapunk called him about his findings days prior to the incident and told him to kill him like Dumbledore-Snape situation.
Usopp fans we finally made it 😢
Vega punks purpose was to catch everyone up. Remember when oda wrote the letter roughly saying new readers could start reading the manga as of end of wano. Vegapunk speech 's purpose was to informe the casual/new reader of one piece while at the same time informing the in world citizen what is at stake. For the strawhats it was combination of showing their strength but estabilshing that there not completly there. It is simply setting the table for the one piece race.
I wonder if the last part of the message would of said that it's the world goverment who likely have it before it was cut off
I think if Vegapunk mentioned the WG it would have considerably reduced the amount of people who would take his message seriously. And yes, the out of story reason is true, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense in story. That being said, I agree that if there was an in story reason, I would have liked it to be mentioned and the only one we got is Vegapunk desire not to cast judgement which is weird.
I have one theory for why Vegapunk doesn't tell the world that it's the world goverment that's gonna flood the world.
It's because of the will of D, for some reason being someone with the will of D not only means to be the enemy of the celestial dragons but also to be a rebel against the common law/the population waking them up to your own dawn; and if Vegapunk did tell everyone and start the revolution he would have jeopardized the will of D (who's something we know was originally mentioned but got cut off) somehow making the D clan either unable to defeat Imu or really bring the dawn of the world.
It'd be something similar to the Samurais and Oden's haki, the d clan has certain conditions under which they'll obtain enough power/enough of a chance to defeat Imu/the celestial dragons for good.
Vegapunk defies common sense with his thought process sometimes
My main thought reading this chapter was that Vegapunk deciding to give his life for the greater good was very reminiscent of both Pedro and Yasuie's sacrifices.
we are only missing one flashback, and that is kizaru's, vegapunk will ask him to be the one who takes him out
Some other reviewer i cant remember whether it was Grandlinereview or someone else. They said that vegapunk passing judgment on lilith just because she's "evil" prematurely only to be proven wrong. How can he judge the actions of others if he's no different from people who blindly cast judgement. I dont know i just thought that was an interesting train of thought.
September 17th, 2026
I think one of the reason it's maybe that World gouvernement is separate from the marines and also dont forget there is three anciens weapons and there some possiblity that some pirate other than Luffy will get theirs hands on them so accusing the world gouvernement when the marine want to do good and there other weapon that can destroy the world too.
The way I see it is that Vegapunk didn't actually know who tried to sink the world. He thinks it could be the world government since they used an ancient weapon but at the same time it could have been Joyboy and maybe that's why all the countries came together to stop him.
I’m not trying to excuse vegapunk not telling people the WG is evil, but I think he doesn’t tell them because the people wouldn’t believe him. I think it’s fairly consistent throughout the story that people need to be shown that the WG is evil. If he told them they would think that he was lying and that the real cause was pirates
Yes, probably the same reason the Roger pirates didn't say anything. No one would have believed pirates anyway
Theres no proof the wg is evil you conspiracy theorist. Take off your tinfoil hat
I agree and also think that if vp revealed it was the wg then the wg would start to take more drastic measures to silence those who stand against then now that their secret is out. Bit revealing the true culprit gives the world the most amount of time to prepare
Not everyone needs to believe. The man is dying. This is his last breath. They have no reason to doubt him. Especially when he has proof. Lullusia and Ohara.
@@Problemsolver434 I agree with this, but I think based on how Oda. Has characterized regular citizens throughout the story, those who would believe him are the one’s who have already experienced the evils of the WG to some degree, so they would be against them already. In the end it wouldn’t change the minds of the believers or non believers. I think the problem is that Vegapunk doesn’t know this as a character so it makes little sense why he wouldn’t reveal it imo
Bro said the exact reason why Vegapunk didn't explicitly spell out that the World Government was the enemy during his speech. If he points the finger directly at Imu/WG and exposes everything then the cleansing immediately begins. Vegapunk said enough subtly that it plants the seeds of doubt into people's minds without instantly causing the world to end.
If that's the case, Oda should've explicitly showed that thought process during the 2 week void flashback.
He could've easily written that in while Stella, Shaka, and Phytagoreas were planning their recording.
Because right now, Vegapunk just seems like a spineless fencesitter not dropping the fact that the WG are evil.
(1) He knows for a fact that the WG destroyed Ohara simply for researching "forbidden" knowledge
(2) He knows that the WG killed his good friend Clover's brother just for bearing the D in his name
(3) He is ALMOST certain that the WG were the ones responsible for blowing up Lulusia
Not pointing the finger at the WG explicitly in his last words just downright makes him look spineless
But Vegapunk doesnt know about the cleansing, hell he might think the WG is already finishing sinking the world since Lulucia got nuked and he doesnt know how much energy the ancient weapon uses, for all he knows the WG has multiple shots left before they run out of motherflame.
The World Government wouldn't be able to start the great cleansing because they don't have the mother flame to activate Uranus. Getting the mother flame is the whole reason the Gorosei went to Egghead in the first place.
@@fedewyt what? No. They went in EH because Vega was spilling everything to the world.
They already had the Mother Flame, and the Strawhats were not stealing anything. If they really just wanted the Mother Flame, they could have make the Strawhats leave.
regarding your theory about vegapunk not name & shame the WG for the cause of the flooding of the world, perhaps its plausible to say that probably even vegapunk is unaware of Imu??That might be a good reason for him not to say it in his speech. Besides that his explanation regarding the void century made it sounds he was neutral, so it wasnt that the royal kingdoms were pure evil. There wasnt such thing as who's was right or who was wrong.
Didnt vegapunk literally say that he doesnt understand their motives or the complexity of the war thats happening? Thats literally why he decided not to say who the “enemy” is.
I understand your point about why Vegapunk didn't reveal to everyone that the Marines are the enemy. It seems Vegapunk recognized that not all Marines are inherently bad; if he had exposed them as enemies, it could have led to a widespread retaliation that would result in the unjust killing of innocent Marines, essentially amounting to a genocide.
That and i feel like Vegapunk had a reason for holding back information like the roger pirates did, they may just wait for the right timing and person to come along and uncover the truth
Marines ≠ world government
He could've just said it was the celestial dragons that were causing the rising of the sea. The marines would just stop supporting them.
@@ryankelly7070 facts
@@planetmac8586tell the citizens that i dare you
The speech did cut in and out so the world government part might have just been cut out
I doubt it, Oda could have easily cut the speech short by means of cutting the transmission. Begging the question why he didnt? Watching vegapunk is like Watching oppenheimer, a Very conflicted character
Wait, there was a part of the message that was lost. Maybe he mentioned it during interruption?
Vegapunk spent the start of his investigation assuming Lilith was the enemy because she is evil. He was proven wrong. This is why he didn't want to label the WG evil, he was just shown why that could be a misdirection.
Luffy definitely passes the Youkou test but apart from Zoro and Sanji all the other Straw Hats are in desperate need of a power up since this whole arc they were just running around having to be saved all the time
I agree
Honestly, the whole thing about Vegapunk not telling people about the fact that the WG are the most likely to have an ancient weapon stems from the fact that, imo, he will only tell people what he knows is a fact. In his message, he specifically didn't go into any theories about what he believe the ideologies were that the two factions fought over during the void century, because he just didn't know the facts of the matter. And I would say the same thing applies here: last chapter he told Shaka his hypothesis that the WG might have an ancient weapon, but he doesn't have any proof, and unless he saw it for himself, or was told about it by someone higher up (York woudn't count), he basically would never be able to get any proof. So not knowing therefore made him not say it. Would it have been more helpful to reveal his theory, maybe, and is it a flaw in his thought process, yes, but I find it very in character for him to do that. It's probably his scientific oriented mind that made him act in this manner: unless he can prove what he says, he'll refrain from making any conjecture to the broader public to whom he's only trying to reveal factual information
Hi morj, what if vegapunk did reveal the WG as the true villain when the broadcast was interrupted?
I think Vegapunk didn’t say it was the government because it bought the world more time
For instance you said who’s to say the government wouldn’t just do it after he said his speech I think that’s why he didn’t say it was them outright to avoid that possibility as much as possible because if he did say it’s them the cats out of the bag and they have nothing to lose
You are right Morj, Oda cant push the story that forward, Vegapunk exposed what he could. the expose of the WG will come eventually. I think its surprising that the Gorosei were in demon form and none of the admirals get a chance to criticize Saturn's form, or any of the others, but i suspect it was due to his haki "don't look at saturn"
Could we be overthinking the world government blame thing? Is it possible that he put the “it’s most likely perpetrated by the world government” in the D clan section so we didn’t hear it? If the D clan are the enemies of the world government, he could’ve slipped it in while discussing the D
I think one thing to recognize about Vegapunk not mentioning the world government has an ancient weapon is that remember that a part of his broadcast got cut off. Knowing it may very well be the case that the key fact was mentioned in the part of the broad cast that never aired.
I am still waiting for the reason why vegapunk wanted the world to watch the whole thing on video snails. For everything he said it was enough to be heard.
call it paranoia from the rapid increase in extremity at egghead but this chapter feels like the fake credit roll trope with the massive question mark of what's the deal with Saturn and Kizaru, feels like we're not quite in the clear
I believe there is a in story reason for Veapunk to not directly call out the WG as evil. As in this chapter he himself made a false judgement when he immediatly jumped to the conclusin that it was lilith who stole the motherflame, when it in fact was someone different. This explains his whole act of trying to not be too rash with judging and being cautios with judgments.
During his speech we were constantly shown people being skeptical of his his information, claiming WG is evil when it’s only known source of order an civility in the eyes of the common man would have people questioning the credibility of his speech. Being ambiguous and avoiding casting moral aspersions allows the people to judge, as we’ve seen before that they NEED to witness it to believe it.
This was by far odas worst written chapter. It didnt add anything to the story. Just made vegapunk more unlikable
I feel that if he told the world that the world government are the bad guys, it’ll automatically make a lot of kingdoms actively side with and support Luffy, this will give Luffy a leverage over the other factions which the author doesn’t want to happen, at least not before the others catch up
My only real issue with Egghead is this: why tf did Vegapunk insist on a video den den mushi? Was it just him being neurotic?
Yeah, there's no way Oda was ready to turn the entire world against the world government yet, but he still needed to build up to that point, and that's the reason for Vegapunk's speech. I get that that isn't a satisfying answer for in story reasons, but we might feel the same about the Roger pirates once we discover the secrets of the One Piece.
I feel like the goroseh are going to blame the straw hats for bustercall on egg head.
If Vegapunk had cast judgement on the WG as a whole and turned everyone against them, it would've led to total anarchy. With the Marines gone, who exactly is gonna protect the islands from pirates and bandits? Not to mention involving everyone into the fight puts all of the civilians in danger of being targeted first by Imu who will most likely have the mother flame by then. Vegapunk's speech was just a warning of the ongoing war, he literally tells them to protect themselves word for word. I never expected you to be so tunnel visioned as to miss the obvious reasons behind such an omission.
The strawhats didn't need the haki to save them but boy this they want it. I was hoping the iron giant also joined us but he had his journey which we will probably see later.
Anyone else feeling bothered by the fact the crew are cheering and throwing the end of battle party like usual while vegapunk is dead
I mean hell his corpse is still warm
Idk i think oda handling of the tones is a legit criticism lately
As my second week to week reading arc after wano, this was a much greater experience but the ending was very disappointing
remember when he said the wano video was going to come out before the egghead arc ended
I look forward to your analyses! Analysi? Analypeople?! Whatever.
I dont understand why he couldn’t just have the speech get disrupted with the final message revealing the WG as the villains. That solves everything
I agree fundamentally with the criticism of what Vegapunk shared, but what I think will end up happening is finding the one piece and accelerating the chase for it will be the only way to stop the WG. The logical choice would send the whole world on a suicide mission against the WG and Marines. 100% acknowledging this is headcanon and I might be very incorrect
Theres is a problem in what your saying. Its not the WG thats the true enemy its the celestial dragons. I think right now there is not enough separation between the two groups for the people of the one piece world. If vegapunk said what you said the celestial dragons would have an easy out as only 5 of them are actually involved in world politics. However it would cause for chaos for systems actually helping the world as many kingdoms would mostly quit on the spot. The WG as we know it would dissolve but celestial dragon could keep on trucking on the holy land if theyre not careful.
Did Oda ever explain why the other vegapunks wouldn't become suspicious of the memory of 3 of them waking up with 2 weeks missing and a note from their previous selves? Wouldnt that memory end up in punk records during subsequent sync, and therefore in York's memory? Shouldn't york maybe have suspected that they caught on to her? What other reason would they have for erasing their own memories?
I think Oda forgot about this😂
They can choose not to send all their memories to punk records. They can even seeemingly falsify memories according to Edison. That’s likely why York didn’t know.
Either way the reason they deleted their memories was a contingency plan incase York figured them out. It doesn’t matter if she found out that they knew she was the mole. The main purpose of wiping their memories was to keep the location of the transponder snail a secret from everybody even themselves.
Kinda confusing but basically even if York did discoverer they knew her secret and had the WG destroy the vegapunks a week ago the message still would’ve played because NOBODY including all the vegapunks knew it existed. Like vegapunk said “even if we lose we win”
@@kingmanga8575 Where is it mentioned they can choose not to upload all their memories to punk records?
@@anumaysethi6549 it’s stated in the most recent chapter that they can put their brains into “offline stealth mode” to keep their memories from being uploaded to punk records. That’s how they kept York from finding out their plans prior to wiping their memories. That’s also likely how York was keeping her dealings with the WG a secret.
@@kingmanga8575thats such a smart observation
3:50 Regarding Vegapunk's decision not to point to the WG as the enemy of the people:
1. He had no proof, at least not ones that he could show to definitively turn the people against the WG, anything he could show will be drown by the propaganda apparatus that is under the WG's control, any damage done can easily be made to seem like a pirate's doing, including the Lulucia incident, the common people are not going to believe in pirates over the WG's coverup.
2. He don't want the people to turn against the WG, at least not yet. The most present danger the world of One Piece is facing now is the Ancient Weapons and their power to flood the entire world, with the WG controlling the only known operating one (Shirahoshi is not known to Vegapunk), just like you don't want to enrage a predator in their domain, enraging the WG into "cleansing" the world now will only put everyone in danger. Worst case scenario is the WG floods the world and the only people getting saved are the WG affiliated and the Pirates affiliated, neither of which will go out of their way for the sake of the innocent (pirates like Luffy are a exceedingly rare breed), with everyone else dies in the flood, and a new world order established under the two flags all over again.
3. The priority for the survival of the world lies on the discovery of the One Piece, which Vegapunk believes should put more options on the table, such as the removal of the WG without mass casualties, there fore his entire speech is based on getting more people to pursuit the One Piece for salvation rather than getting the rest of the world to rebel against the WG and getting everyone killed because it distracts from finding a solution to the flood and the rule of the WG itself without it results in a free for all Pirates paradise..
I don't think it is helpful to tell people the World Government are the ones flooding the world. First, many people are going to reject that on its face, second of all, even people who accept it are not in a position to do something about it. Vegapunk seems to believe, and he's most likely right, that finding the One Piece is the key to stopping the World Government, and he *did* tell people that-that the fate of the world depends on who finds the One Piece.
Top 5 arc. Shame that Oda didn't give these Vegapunk moments to Franky as Sanji still got badass stuff to do. Nonetheless, amazing storytelling.
Oda has been giving Sanji a ton of character focus since the post-timeskip.
Pre-time skip his been the most flesh out straw hat
Franky did one shot a vice-admiral.
Franky was COOKING this arc, he just wasn't the focused Strawhat and I'm fine with that as day 1 Franky fan.
The truth is we don't know the whole extent of the message so we cant really say what he initially wanted to share but ended up missing from the final transmission, i think oda purposely didn't share who will be the culprit because having the world thinking luffy might be the culprit or the true enemy of the world is a part of the upcoming plot.. we'll see
Anyone else have a Big smile on their face when Usopp reunited With Brogy and Dorry? Cause I did :)
The giants have been a consistent highlight of this arc for me.
I don’t think he needed to explicitly state that the WG was evil. I feel like it’s HEAVILY suggested that the WG are up to something.
we get the egghead analysis before the wano analysis 😭😭
absolutely shameless lmfao
September 17th. If the Wano analysis doesn’t drop that day then I’ll sue for pain and anguish.
Here here
Did he say what year?
@@cccaden that’s a VERY good point 😂😂😂
@@cccaden........ shit
Vegapunk already said that the world shouldn't judge the ones that killed him if they discover who did it, becuase of moral reasons. This is not headcannon, he literally avoid calling out the marines and the World Government because a lot of people would end up killing innocent marines (Cross Guild made a good poor man kill T-Bone, which was one of the most beloved marines, just for money. Imagine what would happen if they also knew that the WG wants to kill all of them. There would be a genocide of innocent marines)
It's not Elbaf only it is the War land arc
Interesting how Vegapunk tells the crewmates of Luffy that he wants them to win rather than telling luffy to find the one piece. I hope this means the whole strawhats are gonna play major role in disdovering the One piece and usurping the world. Maybe this is where Luffy succeeds where Joyboy couldn't because he has a stronger crew.
The point about Vegapunk not framing the WG as the perpetrator of the sinking is manyfold, honestly, and no, I don't think it's about the chaos.
The thing is; even after Ohara, Vegapunk told Dragon that in the WG and in the Navy there were still good people. In addition to that, he doesn't know why the WG might be using ancient weapons. Like all he knows is that most likely ancient weapons were used, probably by the WG, and that usage is what is bringing the sinking of the world. That's all he knows.
He doesn't say the WG is evil, and he doesn't say they are the enemy, not even once.
Also, telling people that the World Government, the organization that everyone is a part of, is evil and wants to destroy the world in such an exaggerated manner is extremely hard to believe. It's already quite unbelievable as it is - the world sinking, ancient weapons still existing, wars being fought for centuries, pirates being the key to control the world - but if to that you add the mother of all conspiracy theories - which is, the government is evil and wants to kill you -, a lot, and I repeat, A LOT of people would start discrediting his message.
The most important part of his speech was about the sinking of the world, this is what the people need in order to take countermeasures. You're telling someone their house is sinking, they can prep, they can get ready to move. You tell them the responsible is someone high above, super far away and protected by the most powerful military organization in the world, and what does that change for them? For most people? Nothing. Because the priority for the common man is not to go, climb the Red Line, and fight against God Knights, Admirals and Gorosei; is to save themselves, to survive. The ones doing the fight are the D. clan - that he addressed during the message - and the revolutionaries - to whom he already spoke during the arc.
And lastly; half of Vegapunk's message was lost, and that half was about Joyboy and the Void Century and the D. Which seems the prime candidate to tell the world something about the World Government as well. So even if we ignore all the previous points, he might have actually said something about the government, but the Gorosei cut that part of the message off.
If Shanks is strong why didn’t he defeat Blackbeard or Kaido? Protecting Shanks this much creates too many questions
Well I've seen other translations, and there the Giants clearly say the haki is greater. I think we need to wait for the official translations
Viz doesn’t matter the Japanese kanji does. Sandman and others said it’s wrong, tbh I knew it was wrong there’s no way Oda would say someone has better Haki than Shanks outside Roger WB Rocks
Not to sound snooty or anything but you keep saying “Admiral Level” for the Gorosei.
Wouldn’t it be more fitting to say they were “Fleet Admiral Level” instead. Even if they are stronger than that it doesn’t feel like they’re Admiral Level. At least, to me that is.
I think you are right that Oda is not wanting the story to move on too quickly but I think you are making some very unfair assumptions about Vegapunk’s message.
All of these other speeches that you compared Vegapunk’s to are all very similar in the way that they leave out KEY information.
It’s for a purpose!
What happened when Usopp tried to get Rayleigh to tell them what the One Piece is? Luffy freaked out and said that he doesn’t want to know for adventures sake. That is KEY to the story’s themes.
You could also pose the question “Well why didn’t Roger just give as much information as he could about Laughtale before he was executed?”
Or “Why didn’t Whitebeard tell everyone what the D means in Marineford he obviously knows what it is” And maybe even “Why didn’t he say what the One Piece was? I’m sure Roger told him at some point”
Hiruluk’s speech is even about how when you die your memory lives on. Vegapunk is certainly going to have a long lived legacy now right?
Even Oden didn’t say what the One Piece was in his journal! Why?!
Because of Wills! Is a persons Will stronger when they press forward without having all the info or when somebody decides to use their Will once they know an endeavor is a sure thing?
This exact idea is the first lesson we learn in One Piece. Luffy gives Coby the strength to escape by demonstrating a determination to move forward regardless of how small the chances of success are.
All this to say, yes I think Oda definitely is only leaving breadcrumbs for narrative purposes but it’s the whole narrative!
The people need to find the Will within themselves and make a decision on who they feel is right. That means that people can hold more to their ideals and show even greater strength than by rising up after being told to.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves on this message. I believe a huge part of this lack of info in the message is for a reason just like how Luffy didn’t want to know what the One Piece was or if it even exists.
If he blamed the world government, the people of the world would have just assumed he'd lost his mind. Nobody would have believed him.
Loki is Thor’s adoptive brother because Thor is a god while Loki is a giant god who used magic
You have Sanji in your thumbnail, but you didn’t even mention him once
My push back against him saying it’s the World Government is it isn’t the World Government doing. It’s Imu and the Gorosei doing. The world government unfortunately have a lot of bad apples but to say it’s their doing when they themselves don’t have any knowledge of it would be wrong to Vegapunk. He said he don’t know the person who did it too well so he won’t say who it is or why.
Based on his research of the void century, maybe what the WG is doing isnt evil. Hard to justify but the history is still unknown.
Can't wait for Usopp to get a buff and be less useless
He doesn't know who's right, he knows the world government is sinking the world but he may wonder if what they're doing is necessary in the end
he only left it out cuz if it was said and people turned on the government they probably would have advanced their plan and done it right away since they would have no choice
I'm gonna say the WG would've started the great cleansing immediately if the people knew that the WG was the cause of the flooding.
I think Vegapunk understood the importance of finding the One Piece first before the world war begins, as it may be humanity's best chance against the WG.
There also may be a connection to Fishman Island about how Luffy said to figure out who's good and who's bad for yourselves.
I’m pretty sure the haki was greater then red hair shanks. The big giant said it was greater than red hair shanks. Plus in the movie red. Shanks couldn’t knock out a vice captain but only get em on there knees. Right here it seems they were knock out. So I don’t know what you’re got that information that’s it’s same strength.
The giants never stated that joyboys haki was greater. The official translation tell you this. They asked with uncertainty. Secondly kizaru stated he did take out vice admirals. Also movie feats shouldn’t be taken to heart. Stick to manga
No way we get egghead analysis before wano 💀💀💀
Don't be surprised if Vegapunk DID tell the viewers that the world government is most likely the culprit, but that got interrupted during the search for its source.
It would create mass chaos…. People cant know aliens really exist
What if the reason is because VP shares the same idea as Dragon that we still need a WG just one without the CDs. Demonizing the WG may paint having the entire establishment as corrupt and cause people to forgo the idea of even having a united global administration after Imu is gone
The entire speech wasn't played, right? Maybe Vegapunk did say it was the World Government in the recording, but it will only be played later when Oda deems it appropriate?
Egghead analysis before Wano analysis 😭
Morj is acting like we didn’t hear how mad he was in the livestream
What was he mad about in the stream?
I’m curious too 😂
@@mmem4264 he went on a 10 minute tirade about how Vegapunk’s speech wasn’t effective because it didn’t convey where the danger was coming from when he knew the entire time
@@TheRockerXthat Sanji got such a focus
@@inertmosquito7112 Tbh he's not wrong about that one point.
I don't think Vegapunk could reveal to the whole world too much about the World Government, because it would just put a target on everyone that learned too much. The big takeaway from the broadcast is that the people of the world need to make the proper preparations for the world flooding.