"MARSHALL WAS ALWAYS TAKING PILLS AROUND ME BUT I NEVER THOUGHT..." ROYCE TALKS ADDICTION & ENABLERS
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Proof held an intervention for Em. That’s a real friend.
R.i.p. Proof, to think he's been gone since 2006.
Thank u he was one of them yes man dudes that
Rip proof. My brother got the chance to meet him back in the day. I was always so jealous of him because he got to chop it up with a legend lowkey at the mall before people heard he was there and rushed the store as he went out the back.
He also sacrificed his life for em. Lets not forget the industry is evil…
Rip Proof i saw Em n D12 live in about 2002-2003 Em was wasted n Proof carried him through his set.
8yrs clean & sober here...
& like he said, you're never fixed nor cured when it comes to addiction/alcoholism... It's a lifetime fight, one day at a time.
SALUTE!
Royce is the only person I know who constantly calls Em Marshall that's dope
Man if you know him like you say. Can I get a autograph
YELAWOLF is the only person who calls him Marshall too
False, Yelawolf
much respect to Royce I'm in recovery and it was very hard at first being only 25 but seeing life sober and clear has change into a beautiful lifestyle now at 60 I been blessed to have family members and friends look to me for guidance it helps me stay focus because I only win if I died clean great podcast salute
Isn’t there like a jazz podcast or something you’re old ass should be tuned in to? Lolol. Jk! Hats off to you champ!
Thats dope.
Respect to you
@@theguc1 🎷 “Jazz & class Corner” with Eddie Griffen & DL Huguely
@@moeagermusic 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😉
Salute to everyone who’s battled with addiction and is living sobre
Facts much love ❤️
12 years sober 👊
@@rodrigobarba930 ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’m struggling with alcohol now and can’t stop🤦🏾♂️
That means Em to, and he speaks about this on alot of songs, in fire ways 🔥
Em is a solid brother..,he been though a lot and got many,many haters like everyone else that’s trying to share his gift with the world and stay out the way @ the same damn time!!!
Nahhh
So glad to see that Em and Royce have been sober for so long now. I know it's 15 years for Em's sobriety. Not sure how many years Royce has been sober, but even if it's only a few years that is still great to see!!!
It's definitely peer pressure to keep asking someone to drink when they've expressed to you that they don't want to. It's not enabling, but it's disrespectful. I don't drink. It has never been my thing and people who drink are always like why don't you drink. Have this. Have that. Let me fix you something. So, I have decided not to be around certain people because I know here we go again. I grew up around drinkers and alcoholics. I don't like that energy and vibe.
Same
I’m on day 135 and I told all my drinking buddies don’t invite to No MFING cookouts or parties cause I know I will be tested by those disrespectful MFs. 1 of my friends said I can come around and not drink. At that moment I knew he wasnt really my friend.
@@specialed_614 Good for you. Cut those people out of your life who seek to do you harm.
@@specialed_614 ngl I read your comment and didn't get why you defined him a fake friend, could you be more detailed?
@@damianoabbina9967 because he can’t even not drink to hang out with him. if he was a real friend he wouldn’t drink around him if he doesn’t wanna be tempted. plus, being sober around drunk friends isn’t that great of a time
“If I ain’t ready to get better, then I only want enablers around” that’s powerful shit
"How about you just skip it altogether"
That's the type of friend you need. I get what Royce was saying because I got the alcohol taste thing out of my system in my 20s. I was encouraged by those around me (close family like grandpops, some cousins, etc), but by the time I hit 29-30, I was over it. I'm 35, never been an alcoholic, but I look back and Im grateful I experienced that. I'll have some wine now but I'm good on hard liquor. Plus I've been in the gym for about ten years plus, drinking was counterproductive.
Great segment, great content Math. This is your lane and your lane only bruh!
Yeah and yet someone still has something ignorant to say. Don’t need pills to have a good time. Half the effect comes from the music and people you’re around it’s been proven
Wines better anyway. Always liked the high off wine better than hard liquor, just makes me laugh
Whenever you quit an addiction it’s always someone close that wants you to relapse… every time
Damn
Being a friend that tries to help others by calling out issues or constantly shining light on problems another friend is dealing with can definitely cause friction and distance but i always believe a real friend should always be honest and refuse to ever be a yes man. The last thing a user or a F up wants to hear is the truth
Agreed. I've gone thru it personally. But if I didn't have them friends tha5 called me on my bullshyt...I'd be dead...I thank God for them friends that air Me out and give a damn and care enuff to cuss me out and set me straight. Those are angels.
There is someone you know in active addiction, reach out and see if they're ok before it's too late... You never know what phone call or conversation is going to help that person make the change.. To everyone still struggling with addiction, ITS NEVER TOO LATE!
Your intention is good and i respect that but NOBODY can help an person that is addicted to drugs. Thats what i learned in my life. I was an addict by myself and i had many friends and family members that are addicted too and you can talk so many hours and good words to them, it dosnt matter. Keep your energy. Just let them know that your here when they need help and thats it. You only win vs addiction when your completely alone with yourself.
@@gastarbeiter8384 I hear ya brotha, but I respectfully disagree... I know 1000% percent that NOBODY can get an addict sober unless he or she wants to for the right reason(getting clean for themselves)..BUT, sometimes that addict may just need a little push in the right direction, that one phone call or pop up visit could help that person.. In the end, people have to want to get sober for themselves but it always helps to have those TRUE friends/people in your corner.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink the person going thru the addiction needs to be ready to get clean or sober I was at the peak of a cocaine addiction from age of 19 to 29 had many people trying to help me I pushed them all away and cut them off due to being in a relationship with the cocaine you can't force anyone in any type of addiction to stop because they will stop fin with you at least if you are around as a friend you can limit it or make sure that person gets home or eats food
#WeDoRecover 🙏🏽
Conversation wise never a dull moment on this podcast no matter the guest
SALUTE THE BRO for beating the alcohol demons
I quit drinking after 28 years, it’s been 1 year this month (August 2022). I THANKGOD 🙏 EVERYDAY😑!
“My granddaddy mistress caught the business from my granny fists”
Royce da 5’9 - Bablo Boat
Dat was b4 I was Born
This was a real conversation.
A lot of people need to hear stuff like this.
Shout out to math and the crew.
I admit I been drinking Daily for the past few years …. Then Covid hit…. I was basically getting paid to sit home n drink …… I noticed I was slowly but surely falling off my hustle ……….. I slowed down on the liquor a lil…. drinking after a long day of work instead of day drinking n being drunk all day …. I wanna stop cold turkey…. But I’m taking baby steps in the mean time
Don't give up on the fight for you will conquer it.
Try some odouls it's helps
You only stop when you really want to. Nobody controls your outcome but you no matter what. So just remember that. If it's not a problem then you can do it. I don't anymore. Cuz it's problem for me. If I can you can.
That's like me with the bud. I smoke too much spend too much. I want to quit smoking but I like to smoke
Do you at least chase it? I make my drinks light and get a good night sleep. Wakeup ready to work.
I beat Alcohol, now trying to defeat cigarettes
you will! speak it into existence
💪🏽
I beat cigarettes now I'm trying to defeat drinking
You can do it!!! Everybody battling addiction of any kind YOU CAN DO IT!!! Much love 💯
Read allan carr's book on quiting smoking. Worked for me and quite a few folks I know. It works.
“I don’t think it makes him a victim but it makes you an enabler but it’s not your fault.” Take the time to let that soak in @8:15
I can't say it enough. MEO is the best podcast out !!! Salute to the whole panel 💯💯💯
I’m not gonna lie…I agree with you. I like Budden’s sh-t too. Nore gets good guest but there’s way too much goofy clown shit going on in his interviews.
Its just a real convo with no gimicks. Keeping it real goes along way.
Agreed.
@@Themosaicsound 555⁵ 5c. Y5nc6vnvv9v966v9
that last statement and laugh at the end from royce lol
I’m still a alcoholic!!! I try soooo hard to not drink but it’s such a fucking battle and I don’t want to die in the field
Look into something called the Vivitrol shot, it helps so much and it’s not a replacement like Suboxone or Methadone, it’s a shot you get every 30 days, they recommend you stay on the shot for 6 months to a year and it helps with cravings and blocks the receptors in your brain, look into it, it’s for Alcohol and opioids and you can get off at any time and you won’t experience any withdrawals or anything. Keep your head up and use all the resources available to you.
@@BigJordan92708 thank you !!! I’m bout to call my doc office,,,, It’s a lot when it comes down to my alch problem
royce is dedicated to keep hes mouth covered with hes hands
Like he knows his breath smell like 💩
Helitosis?
I wonder why he covers his mouth, it’s distracting. 🤔
He’s having a serious conversation and you talking about this? Smh
Much Respect to Royce in becoming sober.May God continue to bless you. And I want to say thank you to all the man at MATH HOFFA for not calling women out there name. Thank you Royce for starting the conversation off right with respect for women. 🙏🏾♥️
This needs to be said.
That whole "Next Morning" thing is BS when you're an alcoholic.
Trust me. If you drink everyday, especially if you've taken to day drinking, your mood and behavior is affected for at least a few days AFTER you take your last drink. This is prime time to drink again to combat the withdrawal symptoms. Rinse and repeat. The "Next Morning" is further away than you think.
Royce always has classic moments. Can't wait for this one
why would you ask someone to drink when they told you they dont drink or have never drank?
3:26 I've suffered through almost every addiction you could have from illegal substances alcohol. Nothing anybody said or did or how bad I made my life changed my addiction until the point where I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. I ruined my life and alienated everybody in my life and that wasn't enough for me to stop. What Royce he's saying it's 100% correct you don't want people telling you about your addiction how bad it is if you ain't ready to get better forget all that get the out of my face it has to come from within and you don't know when that will be if it will be or how it will be you just got to let the fire Rage until either it burns out or the fire consumes you either way something's got to die
So dope to see the fruits of your consistent labor Math... Grand Salute to you and yours. I remember building with you and your partner on Fulton and Nevins years ago when you were pushing the blood on my hands CD.. so dope to see the flow continue and prosper💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
“They become dependent on you being that voice but it doesn’t mean that they’re gonna change” -Math #barz
🎯🎯🎯
One of the few times thus far in this interview that Royce had made sense. I see Math point, but either he is in denial of any responsibility or he has never been in any classe for addiction and help. As somone that has taken some out herr in AZ i can promise that even tho I respect and can agree just as a man whr he is coming frm, by definition to addiction he is def a form of an eneabler to presure his buddy to have a drink whn he does not wnt one.
Math not talking about pressuring him, it's just like tryna get ur friend to do anything else out the box... it's just socializing, your predisposition to sh*t is unavoidable nmw
He’s made sense the entire time y’all are just blinded by fandom
@@peabody573 Exactly
I really hope they get Em on here one day.
How can you hear the literal definition of an enabler and still say ‘that’s not me’? Cmon Math
Enabler, so that's the word for my former friends. I've had people push for me and others to do some stuff they liked doing just so we're a part of it. I've realized that I have addictive tendencies and now I'm so scared of doing or trying any of that stuff beacuae it may be a oneway for me with no u turn option. Some people are pure evil without even knowing it.
much respect for having the awareness to see that!
22 years clean here. Grateful.
Big up to all you kings. This definitely the best podcast out. I've been watching My Expert Opinion every day for about 6 weeks. Math you got the sauce king. Keep it up 💯
Got sober at 24..I’m 43. Living there dream. Some of these famous people are only “ sober “ now because it’s the cool thing. Royce is spitting real factories about addiction and recovery. It’s beautiful to see.
What a great conversation! This needs to be talked about more
“But if u in the record business, hehe””
This is the best podcast for conversation with guests . They get to it .
50 Cent will be a guest on MEO one day!! It’s Hoffa!!
Man would be crazy
It's coming!!
If Jay or Nas do it.
50 will jump in. But Nas might first out of love for Hiphop. My guess..
@@DAVIDTORRESANI Idk about that...He did Drink Champs before Nas & Jay ain't been there yet
@KingGokubeats
I didn't think of that but.....lol
There is a difference between NORE & Math when it comes to platforms?... 50 has TV shows to plug. Business sense points to doing D.C. For 50 in that moment of time. Did Nas do any podcast for (the Supreme Doc?) Idk. But I hope he does. I would rather see 50 ,Nas, Fat Joe and every great hip-hop artist on Math's podcast more so Drink Champs .
I'm watching Clark Kent again because I love this talk of shop with these legends that made me love hip-hop. I'm off topic. Lol
I hope 50 does. I hope Esso is present during that interview also. Lol
This convo is hard. After 6 years my gf and I are splitting up mainly because of her drug addiction. Really thought a could help her but she's still not ready to even Talk about getting clean, let alone try to. It's up to no one but then.
Lamo yo salute to whoever brought up the Rocket Luancher. Royce legit pulled a LAW out on cam “blow your whole house up.” Lmao 🤣
Math a be like hold up, hold up, hold up. Like he bout to ask some important questions and ask what did the girls say 🤦♂️
Yeah Biggie said "Some say the X, makes the sex spectacular" But no one really caught that....Eminem was the one who brought pill popping into Hip Hop. Had a whole pill on the CD of his first album.
Yeah Black folks weren't on pills like that. Pills were seen as whiteboy drugs. I took some X with my white friends in like 2000. My black friends were acting like I was a real dope addict when I told them.
Nawl not really
facts
@@richardtompkins7255 yes really
@@richardtompkins7255 How you gonna say No and then not drop a name or timeline? Because you trolling and don't know the history. Stop trolling. Pill Popping didnt start in Hip Hop till after Slim Shady LP.
Once again Proof looking out for Em like always while just about everyone else sees him as some money
Math was born to do this.
11 months clean! Life is better!
Royce sees straight to the soul these days.... All the 'spectives... Some life experience there
Royce is cappin like niggas ain’t fans lol. He said “until recently me n Marshall never had a problem” LIEE!! U had a WHOLE diss track against D12 🤣
I thought I heard him say that. They weren't talking for a few years. What this guy saying?
That was more of a D12 beef than a Marshall beef though
@@allanbroady2970 listen to the song bro. he dissed MARSHALL too lol
I was trying to figure out if that was lazy phrasing or what. Cuz yeah, Em and Royce both dissed each other on wax.
I always love when Royce Da 5'9 does interviews because he has a different prospective on life and decisions that we make. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
Best conversation I've seen here so far. As we know that's saying a lot..well done guys
“White boy”
“White boy”
What does it matter what colour the man was?!! If this was the other way around ....
“Black boy” there would be BIG problems.
Double standards EVERYWHERE
Royce is 100% spot-on about not knowing you are wired that way until it is too late. I was that person and it took years to get out of it again.
If you’re dealing with a homie who is deep in addiction. I think distancing yourself from him and letting him know that ain’t cool is they only way to get it through there head that they have a problem. If they still choose to be a druggy that’s on them. But being alone they will start thinking about their choices and why people left them.
alot of value in this man
He just said the realest most accountable chyt about addiction 💯💪🏿
Math needs to write a memoir cuz dude has obviously come a long way
Word has it that Royce is still chewing on that straw...til this day
Kings much respect not even one had a drink in this episode in respect for Royce # Dope
Wild stories, love this podcast - always some real sh1t! Keep it going!
Royce was speaking nothing but facts especially being an enabler someone who pushes you is potentially starting a thing with you that you never done before or never had any interest in doing. I remember my own Father getting heated bc I didn’t want to drink with him mind you I never drank in my life nor had any plans in doing so, especially dealing with the trauma of what happened to my grandfather(multiple seizures alcoholic/smoker) who was an alcoholic and even him telling me “be better than me”. We may not push people to be that way but they can form a pathway to that way and then use those very items instead of healthy alternatives.
I see what you mean and I partially agree with that but in my opinion that doesn't make you an enabler nor does it put part of the blame on you. For how I see it, an enabler is someone that knows that something is fucked up but still permits it without trying to help and/or trying to stop it (for example, I wouldn't call an enabler the homie that offers you to take a shot with him, but on the other hand I'd definitely call an enabler the homie that sees you drunk as fuck and still offers you drinks/gets you bottles and whatever even if he can clearly see you're fucked up and/or he doesn't do nothing to stop that situation)
Shouts out to Royce opening up about his addiction and hang up
Math thinks he's smooth with the segway, easing into the addition of insinuating Em's drug problem, perfect clip material 👀he ain't dividing me on that 🤔
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!
Norway Fun🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴❤️😂
I just need one minute with Rihanna.
Royce needs better people around him. One person to tell him not to pick fights with rappers and get house like he did with Lupe and Facts, and another to tell him that when he's in an interview to get his damn hands out of his mouth.
He hidin his tooth work. False teeth. U can hear how it changed his voice
It’s only right if Eminem come on next… for the CULTURE. That will be Math’s biggest interview.
Maybe his biggest “Popular Culture” interview. Not biggest.
This would be dope
Eminem ain't hip hop culture. Quite lady
@@kevinmcqueen9180 Eminem IS hip hop culture. YOU aren’t. Bye
Once I hit my 30's....
I was basically done with drinking alcohol (special occasions only nowadays)..... But in my 20's (especially early 20's)..... I WAS WILDIN smdh
I see u R.M. great interview
No spats 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯U had diss records on each other Royce ?? Lol
Alot of mfers lose they life to addiction not just friends or family because they let it get that bad this applies to the street life but most big homies don’t know so it’s crazy to hear this talk on TH-cam from that type of lifestyle
I think Royce was not trying to say Math would be an enabler but an introducer. In the example of him trying to get Mec to drink when he never touched a drink. While at least that’s how it processed in my mind
Royce started conducting the interview and asking Math questions half way through 😂
Royce checked Math in & Math is making excuses... Royce is smart 🧠💯
Regardless I rate both these dudes but Royce came out on top with truth & wisdom 💡
My new favorite podcast respect for the deep convo and unique question
I like that Royce called Math out for trying to get someone to drink alcohol.
Damn, that's wack. Don't ever try to make people do stuff you already know they're not into.
"But if you in the record business" lmao
Math said if you become a alcoholic after I give you a drink that’s your fault lol 😂
DUSSE N GELATO ON DECK 🤣
This convo is FACTS! HOFFA SPOT ON! 💯💯💯
My mind had me thinking Royce had a seat belt on.
These talks are heavily needed within the CULTURE‼️ 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Real talk 👍
I notice he never took his hands away from Nissan mouth
A hype told me he be cool as hell until he gets that first sip then the next and next then Damien tell him to go get you one. A tru friend wouldn’t drink in front of you knowing 🤷🏾
F.R.O.G. - Forever Reliant On God
AA 🐸
I drink, but never did a drug bcuz I'm afraid of myself. If I like something I'm doing it everyday aka it's habit after 1x wit me
Hoffa was dropping them precious 💎 on this 1 🔥🔥
Enabling is difficult because people that truly love you could be an enabler ..dealing with an addict is not easy an I know been sober for a year now
Super deep
Good talk 🔥🔥
Glad i don’t like alcohol or hard drugs but I’m addicted to weed and cigarettes and I’m trying to kick the cigarette habit but man it’s hard and i kno they killing me
Take it day by day... Just stick to Weed
@@andor3442 facts 💯💪🏽
I knew that dude with the glasses was a nerd lbs. That's cool tho, cuz one of my sons is a college grad, and the other one is top of his class. I broke the curse from great grandaddy to dad visiting prison 😂😂😂😂🤷🏽♂️
There’s so much said in this conversation of addiction that’s wrong; I wish they had a Drug and Alcohol counselor around to square this conversation.
Best podcast I've ever listened too.
1 year clean from pills and H on Nov. 17th. Spent my 20s wildn and finally over came that BS!