In the Footsteps of Spinoza

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  • We recently had the pleasure of visiting the Netherlands and exploring the environment and life of Baruch Spinoza, one of the most interesting and influential philosophers of the modern age.
    Featuring guest appearances by ‪@TheEsotericaChannel‬ and ‪@SeekersofUnity‬ .
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    Sources/Suggested Reading:
    Garrett, Don (1996). "The Cambridge Companion to Spinoza". Cambridge University Press.
    Nadler, Steven (2018). "Spinoza: A Life". Cambridge University Press.
    Wolfson, Harry Austryn (2014). "The Philosophy of Spinoza: Unfolding the Latent Processes of His Reasoning". Harvard University Press.
    #Spinoza #Pantheism #Philosophy

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  • @LetsTalkReligion
    @LetsTalkReligion  ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Corrections:
    It appears that the Portugese Synagogue wasn't built until the 1670's, which would be after the excommunication of Spinoza. Must've gotten the dates mixed up.
    Everything aside from him being there remains true though 🙂

    • @bluesky45299
      @bluesky45299 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satan is leading the world in darkness. The only way to counter the darkness is to bring in light. The light can only be brought when we eliminate man-made constructs such as secularism and go back to Divine law/scripture which is always grounded in justice and mercy. When a man usurps the authority of Allah(the most exalted)and wants to make his own laws then those laws will be grounded in tyranny and oppression and would lead to more suffering.

  • @TheEsotericaChannel
    @TheEsotericaChannel ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Such an honor and pleasure to be on our shared Spinoza pilgrimage together! We even got to stop at one of Descartes' houses as well!

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Loved this. It was a pleasure and honor to be there with you Filip :)

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great fan of Spinoza myself, one of the most clear sighted people ever.

  • @BD00240
    @BD00240 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have striven not to laugh at human actions, not to weep at them, nor to hate them, but to understand them.
    -Spinoza

  • @SofoArchon
    @SofoArchon ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “I have made a ceaseless effort not to ridicule, not to bewail, not to scorn human actions, but to understand them.” ~Spinoza

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you for your visit to explore Spinoza's home and his library. What a gift of insights for people who listen to your lectures on philosophy and religion.
    Spinoza was my first philosopher I learned about at the age of 5 years old.
    I still have found him one of our greatest minds.
    It would be incredibly important if this world of ours had a true democracy today.
    Maybe one day? We have no control over the future, but we do have the ability to read and acquire knowledge, as one looks in the mirror inwardly.
    With the deepest appreciation and respect for what you do and those that join you with your studies.
    Enjoy your journey and have a great summer with your friends.

  • @zovalentine7305
    @zovalentine7305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rest in powerful peace 🙏
    Baruch Spinoza
    24 November 1632 ~
    21 February 1677⚘

  • @xenocrates2559
    @xenocrates2559 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautifully done. Very inspiring. Thanks.

  • @lewisalmeida3495
    @lewisalmeida3495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your excellent podcast, giving us an overview of the importance of Spinoza's philosophy. As a student of Spinoza's philosophy, I have studied Spinoza's Ethics extensively, and I believe to really understand Spinoza, you must live his ideas. I have more than a theoretical concept. After 40 years of work, I now teach, mentor, and coach those who want to live, understand, and love as Spinoza did.

  • @iesureloaded6139
    @iesureloaded6139 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s usually the brilliant minds that make authority “uncomfortable” and they are usually adored the most. Thank you for sharing this experience.

  • @Bill-ou7zp
    @Bill-ou7zp ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been reading Ethics for about two months now. It's very difficult, but there is tons of interesting ideas in there, many of which have drastically changed how I view the world

  • @ezreality
    @ezreality ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, he was way ahead of his time...

  • @paulgauntlet7921
    @paulgauntlet7921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got my Masters in religious studies at the Vrije Universite Amsterdam! This video made me very nostalgic. I used to ride my bike to that statue at the start of the video all the time.

  • @thescoobymike
    @thescoobymike ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love to see these great creators collaborating!

  • @Philosophoholic163
    @Philosophoholic163 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Spinoza's work.

  • @pulkitninenine
    @pulkitninenine ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a follower of Advaita, the similarities are striking

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it's very similar to the concept of "Brahman"

  • @VOCATUS123
    @VOCATUS123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative! This is one I have never read or studied and I see that I need to remedy this right away. At 7:15 Justin trying to be inconspicuous!! What a fun time you all had.

  • @TheTenof12
    @TheTenof12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "BRILLIANT " as always. What a special pilgrimage to a special man in History. I had no idea I shared so much of my outlook with Mr Spinoza. Thank you so much for bringing facts, truth & great presentation together in a world that has lost its mind. I LOVE this channel & your work. 💜

  • @gregcampwriter
    @gregcampwriter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone on Twitter once asked what one word comes to mind when people think of the Netherlands.
    My answer was lenses. That covers Spinoza, Huygens, and Leeuwenhoek.

  • @levinb1
    @levinb1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you gentle men and gentle women for covering Spinoza and being ironic pantheistic teachers, since YT covers (most) of our planet, of the things human have thought in relation to religion and philosophy.

  • @Stefanna88
    @Stefanna88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb channel. I’ve learned so much from you! Thank you for making these fantastic videos, I always look forward to watching the next one ❤

  • @arjenH2Os
    @arjenH2Os ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Small correction on your pronunciation of Rijnsburg. The letters I and J form one letter in Dutch. The Rijn part in Rijnsburg comes from the river Rhine and you can better use that in the pronunciation. So pronounce it as Rhine's burg. This atheist loves your content.

  • @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
    @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you,Filip⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @hypergraphic
    @hypergraphic ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, great video. I've loved watching the live stream while you were there. Keep up the good work.

  • @dlloydy5356
    @dlloydy5356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic episode. Thank you

  • @MuftiMasala
    @MuftiMasala ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learnt so much from your channel. Thank you oh great teacher 😊

  • @lewisalmeida3495
    @lewisalmeida3495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this video, it's excellent.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @lewisalmeida3495
    @lewisalmeida3495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Visiting Spinoza's place of life and the environment he grew up in is wonderful. Having an interest in Spinoza's philosophy is also intellectually gratifying. However, there's more. Spinoza's Ethics is not just to be read and intellectualized, but to be studied, understood, and applied to one's life. There is a way to understand, the.. WayofSpinoza

  • @alexandreapfel2329
    @alexandreapfel2329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy your channel and would love to see more on our boy Baruch !

  • @DrClocktopus1
    @DrClocktopus1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goddamn it, didn't visit any of these when staying in Leiden and now I feel like I need to go back

  • @arturoalemany7567
    @arturoalemany7567 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your spirit and you have channel new ways to see the Life of Spinoza .....could you please tell me where can I attend or visit in order to meet you in person ? I would travel anywhere where you are giving lectures or talks .....I truly feel connected to your wisdom ........I live in San Diego ,California ..thanks for all you represent to many ...we need more Unioty in this journey

  • @catoelder4696
    @catoelder4696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible!

  • @not32272
    @not32272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos. It would be cool if you did one on zār rituals. There's such little information on them, but they seem to be a fascinating blend of Islam and older animist religions.

  • @douglasfur3808
    @douglasfur3808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ethics had pride of place on the top shelf of my father's bookcase. Right next to Frank Lloyd Wright's autobiography.

  • @lewisalmeida3495
    @lewisalmeida3495 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spinoza’s philosophy is more than having an intellectual conversation, but to understand and live his ideas. Spinoza’s Ethics communicates a method of increasing the powers of one’s mind by improving its understanding. It’s possible to free oneself from emotional confusions by understanding that free will is an illusion and that we follow the laws of nature. I have dedicated my life to Spinoza’s philosophy and now I teach it. You can find my work on my website or on TH-cam.

  • @jonaen24
    @jonaen24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant.

  • @rodrigoiturrieta6476
    @rodrigoiturrieta6476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Spinoza is fascinating 😍 thank you very much for the video, greetings from 🇨🇱

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great end quote.

  • @scottygordon3280
    @scottygordon3280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you all are just a bunch of philosophy and religion nerds…It would be so much fun talking philosophy for hours and looking at books with you guys

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! ❤️

  • @nelsaf365
    @nelsaf365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. We could use a Spinoza here in America right now.

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤️

  • @MuShinGirl
    @MuShinGirl ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw Dr. Sledge in there :)
    Thank you all

  • @therongjr
    @therongjr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Sledge! ❤

  • @musamusashi
    @musamusashi ปีที่แล้ว

    Short but dense: Filip always delivers.

  • @edward2175
    @edward2175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for so much in a nutshell. I lived in Amsterdam but shamefully didn't notice the statues of the great man. What's the secret of concentrating so much knowledge in such a short time?

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee ปีที่แล้ว

    2:34 this reenactment for the camera made me chuckle. No harm no foul, but I'm still gonna timestamp it🤣

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a Darth Vader of a statue, my goodness!

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Patron saint of globalism, I guess it's apropos

    • @josef2012
      @josef2012 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GizzyDillespeeHuh??

  • @tmAcorn
    @tmAcorn ปีที่แล้ว

    How many of us would fearlessly go against any Dogmatic State and speak our minds and get knocked down only to stand back up and dust oneself off and keep on keeping on? About a year ago I read the Einstein quote and had to look this guy up! Amazing philosopher!!

  • @meriturso
    @meriturso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video. however i think you made a minor mistake: the Portuguese Synagogue was finished in 1675, so it's not possible that the decision to excommunicate him was made in that building.

  • @DefaultUser61
    @DefaultUser61 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually love your long form videos, but this one was simple, powerful, and beautiful

  • @edward9674
    @edward9674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ever thought about doing a series on symbolism and architecture of churches? There are some fairly early churches in the archipelago of Finland like for example nagu has a very old one with lots of interesting texts on the wall that has been carefully revealed out of the white paint that'd be cool to see showcased.

    • @joshua.veit.europe
      @joshua.veit.europe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd second that request for explication of a standing structure's symbolism.

  • @michellem7290
    @michellem7290 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...adding Spinoza to my list ;)

  • @MaroKhal
    @MaroKhal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Filip ! What do you think are the commonalities that spinoza has with ibn Arabi ?

  • @Rybot9000
    @Rybot9000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the term monism better describes Spinoza than pantheism. I view him as an existence monist or neutral monist. The term pantheism or panentheism carry with them the idea of theism or deism.

  • @AouniX
    @AouniX ปีที่แล้ว

    Link to music at the end of the video please :)

  • @zazielazahr
    @zazielazahr ปีที่แล้ว

    2:29 great interaction

  • @armaanajoomal
    @armaanajoomal ปีที่แล้ว

    great video - thank you

  • @Rydonittelo
    @Rydonittelo ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see Let's Talk, Seekers and ESOTERICA do a long form collaboration looking at all the figures that overlap in Judaism, Christianity and Islam and the differences and similarities that Jesus, Moses, Mohammed had on the history of all these faiths.
    I hope you visited The Bulldog 🍁 and Chipsy King 🍟 while in the Dam. 👍🏽

  • @dmitrygaltsin2314
    @dmitrygaltsin2314 ปีที่แล้ว

    He used to put spiders in a transparent glass jar for amusement. They would fight, and he would laugh. That was one of the few amusements he allowed himself. He somehow envisioned us today.

  • @truthseeker8139
    @truthseeker8139 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This dude is legit.

  • @kavadventures
    @kavadventures ปีที่แล้ว

    Dou you consider doing a Video about saint Francis of Assis?

  • @Arrlong28563
    @Arrlong28563 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a video about Saint John of the Cross. San Juan de la Cruz. Greatest Catholic Mystic❤❤

  • @jithinr2456
    @jithinr2456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so similar to the Concept of "Brahman" in Hinduism!

  • @LucasSchimmel
    @LucasSchimmel ปีที่แล้ว

    I only ever heard of Espinoza in the context of a philosopher of law, not as a philosopher of religion. Interesting.

  • @TakiGosc427
    @TakiGosc427 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you talk about philosophers, maybe can you make episode about scholasticism? I feel their "scientific" thought is quite interesting as a contrast to the image of anti-rational middle ages

  • @coehfelipe
    @coehfelipe ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on the Theosophical Society?

  • @keenanarthur8381
    @keenanarthur8381 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate many aspects of Spinoza's philosophy, such as his pan(en)theism and politics. At the same time, many of us with Western European cultural roots have inherited an over-emphasis on logic and reason over experiential spiritual insight, downstream of people like Augustine and Aquinas, which overemphasis contributes to many personal and societal problems. He probably could have been quite a mystic, if he had approached God through contemplative practice.

  • @jainamsatunda340
    @jainamsatunda340 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @LetsTalkReligion , I find that there is an obvious similarity between spnioza's concept of God and it's modes and Jain Concepts of Sattā(reality) and paryaya (modes). Also I find your video on Jainism to be a bit lacking in research. Can you reconsider?

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว

      Does Jainism consider Reality illusion or real? I am of the impression that it is part of the Indian sects that reject Reality. Spinoza embraces it rather because It is God.

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's more closer to the Concept of God mentioned in the Upanishads of Hinduism. The Upanishads was written between 1500-600 BC, while Jainism emerged in the 6th century BCE, several centuries after the composition of the Vedas and Upanishads.
      The following verses about God from the Ishopanishad has stricking similarity with the Spinoza's God :
      तदन्तरस्य सर्वस्य तदु सर्वस्यास्य बाह्यतः
      " It (God) is inside everything, and outside of everything ..."
      Another verse:
      ॐ पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं पूर्णात् पूर्णमुदच्यते । पूर्णस्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ॥
      "OM That (God) is perfect. This (Universe)is perfect. Perfect comes from perfect. Take perfect from perfect, the remainder is perfect alone (God alone)".
      Both Spinoza's God and the God of the Upanishads share the notion of a transcendental, all-encompassing reality that underlies and permeates the universe. They both suggest a non-anthropomorphic understanding of the divine and emphasize the interconnectedness of all existence.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdvaiticOneness1 - So they don't seek Mokhsa (Nirvana)? Weird that they make a point of not just ascetism but also the most strict vegetarianism, even, in the case of holy men going around with a veil over the mouth and nose and sweeping the floor as they walk in order not to hurt any insect accidentally. That doesn't seem consistent with embracing the world for what it is, "perfect" or not.
      I understand that Jainism (or proto-Jainism maybe) was a major influence in Buddha's life (always according to legend) and that in the end he rejected it and chose "the middle path" (still as road to Mokhsa but at least more balanced with Reality). O feel that all those "Vedic" sects are in the line of rejecting Reality, which they consider painful illusion, some sort of purgatory or even hell maybe, and trying to overcome it.
      I don't think Spinoza does that at all, that's rather the path of the Judaic religions, even if they are different because they don't believe in reincarnation but a single (strictly individual) life and death.

  • @j.477
    @j.477 ปีที่แล้ว

    ,,, preFect,, nuff sat! ...

  • @darkkal207
    @darkkal207 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see u explain astavakra Gita if u have time plz do it

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely! The Ashtavakra Gita stands as a towering testament to the depths of human wisdom, unraveling the very fabric of existence!

  • @myself5812
    @myself5812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im with spinoza

  • @marjakeizer9580
    @marjakeizer9580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the most integer people that ever lived. His sister sued him for the entire heritage of their parents or he sued her and when she lost the case or he won it, he gave her his share and went on making his modest living by grinding lenses.

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know 📚

  • @judithtaylormayo
    @judithtaylormayo ปีที่แล้ว

    In my blissful ignorance I hadnt heard of Spinosa. He states in a clear and intelligent way how I feel about God. This sounds very much as what I believe, thus it would be very beneficial for me to read some of his works. Please suggest to me what book I should beginwith. I hope he is easy to read because I am not good at understanding (example) Shakespeare lingo.

  • @AdvaiticOneness1
    @AdvaiticOneness1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Upanishads, written by ancient Hindu philosophers between 1500-600 BC, already contain detailed insights on this matter.
    Some verse from the Upanishads:
    तदन्तरस्य सर्वस्य तदु सर्वस्यास्य बाह्यतः
    It (God) is inside everything, and present outside of everything .....- _Ishopanishad_
    Another verse:
    ॐ पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं पूर्णात् पूर्णमुदच्यते । पूर्णस्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ॥
    OM That (God) is perfect. This (Universe)is perfect. Perfect comes from perfect. Take perfect from perfect, the remainder is perfect alone (God alone). - _Ishopanishad_
    Both Spinoza's God and the God of the Upanishads share the notion of a transcendental, all-encompassing reality that underlies and permeates the universe. They both suggest a non-anthropomorphic understanding of the divine and emphasize the interconnectedness of all existence.

  • @ShwetabhSenpai
    @ShwetabhSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i really want a video on what is vedanta

  • @ioan_jivan
    @ioan_jivan ปีที่แล้ว

    I have learned from someone that in the Vedic religion God was seem as everything in nature, and then more. Like nature is only a part of God, like a hand.

  • @The_Crow-
    @The_Crow- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:29 beautiful

  • @marinaaaa2735
    @marinaaaa2735 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spinoza is the greatest philosopher of all time imo

    • @yingandyanglife5858
      @yingandyanglife5858 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ever heard about Sri Shankaracharya?

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@yingandyanglife5858Adi Shankaracharya's immense contributions have often been overlooked, despite his status as one of the most remarkable philosophers and poets in the annals of human history.

    • @odonnelly46
      @odonnelly46 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever heard of Plato? All other philosophers are a footnote to Plato.

  • @jocelynbolduc2769
    @jocelynbolduc2769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ethics? Talk about it...❤😊

  • @Adaguflo
    @Adaguflo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg, so Spinoza is now my prophet XD

    • @yingandyanglife5858
      @yingandyanglife5858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spinoza might have copied this philosophy from ancient Hindu scriptures. They also has this same concept.

  • @jocelynbolduc2769
    @jocelynbolduc2769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quantum (Bis). 😂❤😊

  • @zovalentine7305
    @zovalentine7305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Creator is within ❤

  • @Askarcher
    @Askarcher ปีที่แล้ว

    awwww! wheres your beautiful face??? 😢

  • @franciscogomez5106
    @franciscogomez5106 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤👍🙏🤲🙏✡️🕊⚒️✌️

  • @aminrodriguez4707
    @aminrodriguez4707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just so you know, I AM GOD INTOXICATED, YET ATHEIST. It wasn't just Baruch.

  • @MsPiinkFllamingo
    @MsPiinkFllamingo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spinoza is my god. Lol 😂

  • @jorgemtds
    @jorgemtds ปีที่แล้ว

    SPINOZA is a Spanish name.

  • @friendlymurtad
    @friendlymurtad ปีที่แล้ว

    Would spinoza’s belief be similar to Taoism?

  • @robinharwood5044
    @robinharwood5044 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s an insult to Spinoza to call him Baruch. The name he chose to use, the name he published under, and the name he was known by until recently, was “Benedict”. “Baruch” was the name he was given in the synagogue, and the name under which he was cursed, reviled, and excommunicated by the rabbis.

  • @bayreuth79
    @bayreuth79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What Spinoza meant by 'freedom' is very different from what most modern people mean by 'freedom' and I am sure that if he were resurrected and could have a look around modern Europe he would not like what he was seeing. Freedom in our societies is indistinguishable from license and apathy. Freedom for Spinoza first and foremost required freedom from the passions, not freedom for the passions!

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freedom is the ability to think on your own, to speak your mind and to choose in your life. Collective freedom is the same but as society. If I can choose to climb the mountain or stay at home, that's a freedom and thus my choice. Choices can be arguably wrong but that's not a problem of freedom, it's a problem of how one makes choices, in the case of arguable wrong choices this is maybe because of ignorance or maybe because of acquired compulsion/vice or maybe because of conscious informed choice based on parameters different of yours (or whoever else dares to judge).
      Anyhow apathy is not caused by freedom but by lack of it: too much work and economic stress for example cause people to fall exhausted outside work into anything that gives them pleasure and relaxation (call it "licence" if you wish but it's actually trying to de-stress and rest), feeling lack of power in socio-economic-political decisions causes people to fall into despair regarding common affairs (call it "apathy"). You are not really understanding why people behave as they do or how the system (which is in spite of appearances not democratic, because it is not the people who actually rule but the owners of the media, the mega-rich) induces such behaviors (consumrism essentially) into the people.

    • @ulaznar
      @ulaznar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LuisAldamiz There are 3 main conceptions of liberty:
      Traditional: being free from one's own passions
      Classical liberal: being free from interference / non aggression principle
      Modern liberal: being free to do whatever one likes
      Most people ignore that such differences exist, and could misinterpret what a philosopher meant by freedom

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ulaznar - That's your interpretation but the first time the word "free" appears is in a Sumerian text with the meaning opposite to "slave". It's as simple as that: either you're bound to others and have no agency or you do. If you do, then you're your own master and that's freedom in a nutshell.
      This is not about morality (which only means "custom", "tradition", the typical pointless appeal to authority of scholastics or worse: lawyers!), this is about essences. Ultimately we are the hunter-gatherers, no matter how lost and confused and alienated we are in later unnatural societies, especially hierarchical ones, all our evolution pushes us to be those "primitives", that's why we want what I consider the three essences or "three pillars of good": truth, social justice (or even communism) and freedom, because that's what we evolved that way: if you are not happy in uncle Osaba's camp you move to aunt Izeba's, and if you (and hopefully a few others) truly get at odds with your community as a whole, you can move away and form a new one beyond the hill or whatever. That's freedom: freedom is that you choose with whom you sleep and possibly have babies and are not raped, freedom is that you are not coerced, abused, generally enslaved in full or part.
      I don't know if hunter-gatherers had words for freedom, because they did not have slavery or oppression in general. Maybe they had a word for "rights" instead? It seems more practical-specific but ultimately it means the same.
      In Basque, which is a Neolithic language for all practical purposes, free is said "aske" and AFAIK has no cognates other than "aski" = "enough!", "no more!". So freedom would seem to be about setting the limits of others' abuse on the indvidual or, by extension, the collectivity.

  • @bayreuth79
    @bayreuth79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spinoza was not a pantheist but a pan-en-theist since God or substance transcends the modes of extension and mind (i.e., the only realities we know). Spinoza said himself that he could affirm, along with St Paul, that "in him we live and move and have our being". Many of the Church Fathers were pan-en-theists, as Met. Kallistos Ware has demonstrated, including Gregory Palamas.

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But didn't he critize Christianity and the bible I don't think he was a panentheist

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว

      Spinoza clearly states that God has necessarily infinite attributes, thus It is good and evil, male and female, compassive and cruel, panentheist and pantheist, conscious and unconscious, real and unreal, etc. In the end it is like the Dao about which not much can be said without getting it wrong. Why? Because we are finite slices of God, finite avatars, finite in space, time and capabilities and our words only mean that much.

    • @americaeaustraliaepius4338
      @americaeaustraliaepius4338 ปีที่แล้ว

      All church fathers had an idea of a personal Divine, Spinoza didn't. Church fathers still acknowledge the god of the OT as the Divine absolute, which should be completely impersonal and beyond cultural traditions.

    • @bayreuth79
      @bayreuth79 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miguelatkinson Yes, he did. What’s your point? Agreeing with what St Paul wrote is not the same as agreeing with the whole of Christian doctrine.

    • @bayreuth79
      @bayreuth79 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@americaeaustraliaepius4338 Yes, I know. I never said that Spinoza and the Church Fathers agree in toto. I said that they are both pan-en-theists but they have differing understandings if that.

  • @kameelffarag
    @kameelffarag ปีที่แล้ว

    Spinoza is the Most sensible and logical as well as realistic philosopher. The Jews of his days are forgotten, but his memory is delight to the intellectuals.

  • @MrNenai
    @MrNenai ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love your Videos, but please give us more influential female figures in history. They more than deserve it

    • @ulaznar
      @ulaznar ปีที่แล้ว

      Most women weren't highly educated for most of history though

    • @catholicpog7183
      @catholicpog7183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Women haven't been nearly as influential in history. There are some examples but they are exceptions.

    • @paulgauntlet7921
      @paulgauntlet7921 ปีที่แล้ว

      Julian of Norwich and Hildegard of Bingen are both incredible!

  • @badmephisto2
    @badmephisto2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very similar to mulla sadra and Ibn Arabi. Your interpretation of pantheism is wrong. It is closer to wahdatul wujud.

  • @gabrielleangelica1977
    @gabrielleangelica1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you believe in Spinoza's God?

  • @nightfears3005
    @nightfears3005 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The correct term to use for the philosophy of Spinoza is "Atheist" - nothing else.

    • @odonnelly46
      @odonnelly46 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was not an atheist.

  • @nikhillrao3799
    @nikhillrao3799 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He's like thh Dutch Jesus lol

  • @user-kj8yl6sn2z
    @user-kj8yl6sn2z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dear, I find that you are curious about understanding Islam. I suggest that you watch the debates and discussions of Muslim preachers with Christians and atheists, and learn about the reasons why some Christians and atheists accept Islam from these dialogues, such as the following channels: DawahIsEasy Channel, The Muslim Lantern( Mohamed Ali), DUS Dawah Channel (shamsi), and One Message Foundation Channel (Sheikh Othman bin Al-Farouq) , Sheikh Mohammad Tarawneh, EFDawah, I am “THE WARNER” ,One True Message Foundation.

  • @atheistpeace7579
    @atheistpeace7579 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am a scientific pantheist. we try not to use the word god. and at least i do not believe any of the many hundreds of versions of the Judea Christian bible are a decent place to learn morals from. quite the opposite.