I love Temtem, I personally don’t care if it’s derivative of Pokémon. Pokémon had the monster tamer market for years and never gave us an mmorpg. Their loss, I’m just glad someone made this game! It’s great!
I feel the same way. Nintendo and the Pokemon devs know fans what a game like this but they won't release one. That's why playing Temtem on the Switch feel so right, lol.
well not really personally i was more interested in the the battling, people i don't really think (despite pokemons iconic catch phrase would have you think) that collecting has ever been the main appeal of monster tamers. I've always found building a team throughout the game to be more enjoyable than actually completing the "pokedex" (or whatever the game in question chooses to call it)
Cus pokemon like isn't accurate or encompassing enough for monster training games. Digimon and monster rancher play nothing like pokemon, more do most games in the genre outside of being some sort of turn based.
"Nothing about this system entertains. I'd have appreciated some sort of quest or item that lures specific temtem to you" These exist in the form of radars and pheromones. Maybe actually play the full game before leaving a review. Lots I disagree with here.
Its so weird, Pokemon is a franchise that's DESPERATE for some renewal and fresh ideas (and maybe some competent developers), but even the commercial fan remake is basically more of the same Pokemon experience LOL as if we didnt have enough Pokemon games that play like that.
@@anonony9081 I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into Stardew Valley, but I invariably end up feeling both bored and stressed by the short 20-minute real time days (pain in the rear when I'm in the mines) and I don't find any of the NPCs all that interesting. I made it through the first 2 or 3 seasons on my first farm, but can't ever manage even that long on any subsequent attempts. However, what you describe is something that actually appeals to me. If I found a game like that I'd be far more willing to give it a chance; especially if the days were handled different. Like, make us go back to our house after a certain time, but let us decorate or cook or whatever as the time passes instead of forcing us to sleep and punishing us if we don't. That's what I liked with Spiritfarer and I used the nights to stock up on food and do various crafting I needed to do.
@@anonony9081 While it’s a very different story from what you outlined, I kinda got that vibe from Atelier Ryza. While a JRPG, the gameplay is more about gathering and crafting than about combat. Ryza abandons her farm duties to go on an adventure, during which she finds out about alchemy. Studying alchemy gives her an understanding of raw materials similar to her father’s teachings regarding crops. Ryza crafts gathering tools like scythes and axes for her alchemy, resulting in her doing labour by her own choice. Eventually Ryza gets her own garden for alchemically created seeds. She complains about it being similar to a farm, but still grows her own crops.
It’s really annoying just how much they use from Pokémon. Same baseline story structure with the dojos being a totally shameless copy of the gym system with the literal exact same number, which is also true about the party size and number of moves each Pokémon, I mean creature can learn. Even positive reviews talk about how it’s competitive Pokémon but they fixed it. Sure it’s fine they can be a shameless Pokémon knockoff if they want but I’m really not here for it. It doesn’t do a whole lot to set itself apart.
I honestly had a blast with this game and sunk a couple hundred hours into it in early access. But I agree that the end-game is rough, and lacks aspects beyond shiny hunting and breeding. But the story is great, the battle mechanics are good, the graphics are a fresh change, and worth the money if you enjoy collecting games.
I’m almost to endgame and haven’t even paid attention to the story. When I play co-op games I never pay attention to the story. So as far as the story is concerned, I know nothing. As far as the battle aspects, I loooove the stamina system replacing Power Points. The battle system is the best overhaul difference from the Pokémon games. It feels much more rewarding and is not as simple as using one team to push through an entire play through. This game will require you to play smart, or lose. The game is built for many different types of play styles for end game. You can be a fashionista, a competitive battler, a breeder, an entrepreneur, or a collector. Tons to do with the 65 side missions scattered throughout the isles on top of the 20-25 hour main campaign. Overall, TemTem is a great, fun game for a duo of players. Haven’t spent time solo, but I’m a collector, so my time gaming alone have been spent just collecting high stat Tems to sell/breed.
I'm already pretty interested about this game, so thanks for the review IGN, I mean, The Escapist. Jokes aside, while I appreciate that some of the strenghts and weaknesses of the game were covered, spending half of the review saying that it reminds of pokemon is not very useful, is it? It's what everyone says on any review of monster taming games
If it's just a bargain-brand Pokémon with few new ideas, then the comparison is apt. He's saying it would probably be more fun to just play any of the Pokémon games you haven't already played, or replay one that you haven't played in a while than to play this knockoff.
@@WeeklyMusicalShitposts okay, but it's not a knock off. Is it super similar? Yes. It was heavily inspired by competitive Pokemon and the issues that the pokemon franchise has, like the PP system and lacking certain QoL features and content that are staples in the RPG genre that pokemon is only now addressing in any manner whatsoever. Calling it bargain bin is just insulting and inaccurate. The review takes a surface level look at the game and says 'just play Pokemon instead'. That's like picking up digimon story cyber sleuth and saying 'just pick up SMT instead'. Both super similar games with super similar combat in the same genre, but both clearly different when you take a closer look.
Ok. First things first. The Pokemon jokes stopped being funny after the first time. Yes, I get it. Temtem is a lot like Pokémon. That's why I got this fucking game. At the very least you could have varied the punchlines a bit. Sarcastically drawn comparisons between other things the two things share. Like calling Max Blue, or mixing up Gyms/Dojos or Temcards/Pokeballs. Other than that though, I mainly disagree with 3 of your points. For starters, I quite like the side quests. Sure, I'll skip them now and then If I have a lot on my palate. But otherwise there are a lot of great things you can get from them. And even if the reward is just a few pansuns, that's still really good. I'm fucking broke most of the time so any financial aid is welcome. Second, There is atleast 1 incentive for Catching them all. The game will only tell you if an attack is super effective or not if you have the Temtem you're targeting registered in your Tempedia. Sure, you can usually infer that your attacks will work just by knowing the type matchups. But the aid is still welcome. And third: The world design is FUCKING AWESOME. I can get why you'd feel the way you do about the first two points. But how the FUCK do you think the world design is bad? Every island in the archipelego is so pretty and has such a distinct feel. From the coral-filled Sillaro River. The rice paddies of Cipunaki, the cities built upon the great trees of Omnisa. THE ENTIRETY OF TUCMA? Temtem is legitimately one of the best-looking games I've played; pardon the human designs. And sure, maybe the actual layout of everything isn't the best? But compared to what? Pokemon games from 10 years ago? They may not be the most interesting, but atleast they've usually got some exploration. Unlike recent Pokemon games. Atleast there's one thing we can agree on. String Instrument superiority!
I love how not a single clip used in this review goes past level 27 or the 2nd island lol. Also, for god's sake, we know it's like Pokemon. The team themselves literally have said time and time again they wanted to make their own spin on a game heavily inspired by Pokemon.
It doesn’t feel like he even played it, if you did then why did you not mention the harder gameplay, the actual items that help you get tems and the area’s that focus on catching and battling?
2:20 they literally do this multiple times for Tuwai evolutions. You have a monotype gauntlet then get access to a high level area with that specific type and rare tems. I haven't played in a while but I doubt they'd remove it. Edit: spelling.
Nope, still there. Six of them now for that matter. Though to be fair I'm not sure how many players are going to go out of their way to do all six shrines, given that they'll probably stop at their starter tuwai
The pokeuhtemtem bit. Pokemon has been around long enough to create it's own rpg sub-genre with monster catchers. This is an amazing first swing at what Pokemon hasn't even tried. MMO monster catcher. You just sound like an offended poke fan.
Idk if there are enough games to make this a genre, but either way you didn't seem to answer the fundamental question of how it measures up to Pokemon. You joked about it more than you actually addressed it.
Story is whatever, creature design is on par, world and route design is significantly worse than pokemon, the battle system is quite a lot more interesting and fun (also a lot slower and harder). Trading and PvP is a lot more accesible due to it being partly an MMO, it even has a PvP ranked queue and a pick and ban phase for your team. Defintely try it out if your curious and can spare the money
In most areas it's about the same as pokemon. The battle system is far, far better than pokemon (and has no rng at all). The trading system is better than gen 4-7 pokemon and way better than the other gens.
It’s a direct knockoff of Pokémon with not many discernible changes. At least in the 35 hours I put in. There was no innovation I thought, just a copy of a 2 decade old formula.
I stumbled across this video while looking at other Temtem related videos. Sad to say this was a nice attempt at making a review for this game but this video belittles everything about Temtem. Especially since it looks like you haven't even beat the game so this review is technically a half insight on what the game the has to offer. At some point in the video (2:09 through 2:25) the stuff that you complained about that's not in the game is in the game but it's close end-game or entirely post-game and the way you talk about collecting Temtem as if is a pain to do or the only thing to do is the same way some would depict collecting Pokemon.
Pokemon is very popular. I think the point of this game as you said, is to be as close to Pokemon as possible while adding or fixing things people may not like. Pokemon itself already is pretty stale and bland, so it makes sense that this may feel like that. But, to the actual fans and people playing Pokemon, they might like the changes.
I think that's one of the great things of this and other Poke-like games is that most of them don't require you to buy 2 games to get all the mons. PalWorld is another game that just came out that also is a complete game. Pokemon is the only monster collecting game that requires you to have a friend who has the other version or for you to buy 2 copies of the game. All the clones only have 1 version of their games(although some have sequels).
I'm sorry, I did not enjoy this review. We get it. The game is similar to Pokemon. That's why we're here. Collecting Pokemon is a huge draw of Pokemon, so it should also be here. It's nice that you dived into some of the differences between the two games though.
To anyone looking for a Monster Collecting Turn Based RPG, try Monster Sanctuary, it even has a randomizer integrated and optionnal PvP and does a really great job at standing on its own, not being a Pokémon-like
I honestly feel like someone else from escapist should have done this review. Your notes were shallow and had-half truths as well as misinformation. Really disappointing to see someone who clearly has no interest in a poke-style game go into a review with not enough preparation.
I find the script for this review forcing to make the phrase "Pok.. I mean Temtem", if it was a one time joke would be fine but it's more like they have no other games they can compare, is understandable Pokemon is a well know franchise but is not the only one white that mechanic (they could use references like Digimon, NinuKuni, etc.)
They said they won't but I guarantee you if they make enough money they could probably pump out another 50 Tems. This game is amazing and underrated. Definitely not perfect, and a high learning curve to boot but I enjoyed it.
It feels like it already has one, but unless Scarlett and Violet massively disappoint or quickly get stale the community isn't likely going to see a spike for awhile.
I didnt enjoy Coromon. It felt more JRPG-y than Pokemon clone, and it didn't shine in either scenerio. For a JRPG, the story is sparse, the characters are uninteresting and the puzzles were often and hard (so they were a different kind of challenge rather than a diversion). As a Pokemon clone, I found it too obtuse. I found the separation between skill types and mon types more confusing than helpful and the battles were a bit too hard/draining, making me run back to the pokemon center a lot (teleport/fly was also needlessly complicated).
@@icarue993 To me it just seems the game is just hard for you. Coromon was really great and thought the characters can be uninteresting, except for the Mom, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@theomegayoutube3302 I found it annoying more so than hard. The battles with teh trainers were hard, but that just made me run back to the pokemon center more often. While Pokemon didnt forced me to. Like if EVERY battle is hard, its just annoying. And the bosses were simply annoying too. They are just massive tanks of health. That's not fun. They have like 5-6 moves instead of 4, but you will still see them all getting spammed. For one, I did a "miss" strat (high evation + low acccuracy mix). The battle lasted 20 bloody minutes! My mons were at the level of teh creature, so what gives!?
I played the game and I like it. It has these little details during the campaign that made the world feel more alive, like the random NPCs that have there own thing going on when you talk to them.
Every critique he made confused me, has this man never played a Pokémon game especially the newer ones where you have to pay 40-59 extra dollars for "quests" that lead to catching Pokémon
alot of what you said is just wrong, you actually get some fairly powerful and rare temtem just given to you as you play, and you also get rewards from sidequests known as radars which help track not only specific temtem, but their shiny versions, and pokemon was the exact same in having to run around everywhere atleast temtem gives you mounts and unlockable shortcuts through traversal equipment, this review is kinda garbage and is clear you didn't get very far into it
The game is very fun and has a lot of content (even more than some Pokémon games) I highly recommend it especially for those who enjoy Pokémon but want to try something new, the MMORPG mechanics with extra things like lairs/dungeons give a good revamp to the formula.
The battle system seems cool. It's like digimon world 2 but without the crap. I wonder if they'll ever come out with a tem tem anime and trading card game.
Sounds like most of your problems are to do with the fact it's inspired by older pokemon titles more so than anything the game did itself. The creature collection aspect you complained about is almost identical to how it's handled in pokemon. Also, I'm surprised there was no mention of how the game deals with giving you items to get around like rock climbing kits and a surfboard instead of having a move that takes up space on your Monser.
Dude wtf, Temtem is great, the music, story, actually getting to know everyone and ivs of your teams. Its all great, and actually makes it easier to be "hardcore" than in pokemon
1. It wasn’t funny the first time you replaced the name TemTem with Pokémon. The next 3 times was just annoying. if we can have games be called “metroidvnaia like” or “rogue like” I don’t see why it has to be such a big deal that we have a game that is Pokémon like. You were implying that this game was primarily derivative rather than expanding on a genre’s formula. 2. Yes, this is a monster collection game. It has issues (specifically with the MMO aspects) but it’s still taking what many people used to complain about Pokemon and fixing it (battles are more challenging, the battle system is different with a focus on 2v2, multiplayer features that go beyond just trading). I’m not saying the game is amazing. I’d give it like a 6/10 (5 being average). It’s worth a shot for those who like monster collecting but aren’t married to it having to be specifically Pokémon.
Poor review, seems like you tried to push and rush a review out for the 1.0.0 patch while just having played the game while still in early access. Did not bother to go over the new content or anything. Half the stuff you complained about the game not having is there now.
From what I understand there are multiple "Pokemon-likes" and each one tries to capture a different generation of Pokemon be in GBA, DS, etc but none of them mix things up in any meaningful way. Think I remember seeing an Adam Millard video that touched on the subject. Then Pokemon Legends Arceus went and actually innovated, and I somehow suspect that future "Pokemon-likes" will be looking at its homework.
One "poke... I mean temtem" joke was enough. It's 2022, Doom clones are just called FPS games now, we understand games in the same genre will be similar so it's kinda rude to talk more about a games inspiration than the game itself in a review.
Are there enough clones to call it a genre? I thought this and Coromon were it, and they both came out this year. IDK 🤷♂, from a 3 minute review we learned - battle system is unique and interesting - monster designs are great, people designs suck - 25 hour main quest is padded with extra walking and random encounter - coop if fun but clunky - 1.0 has a couple repeatable quests at endgame, but will need more to keep players engaged - everything else is a straight rip from Nintendo and not worth talking about
Nah, when a game is that similar in it's structure to the original, it's worth driving it home. (Imagine scolding someone's manners about this issue.) Also: It's 2022, and people still use the terms "Soulslike", "Roguelike", and "Metroidvania" all the time.
@@arglebargle5531 Right, they call them Soulslikes, Roguelikes, and Metroidvanias, because that's a genre they don't say "Dark so... haha I mean Sekiro" or clones (unless they're trying to be rude) because that implies they aren't recognizable on their own merit. Words have meaning, who woulda thought?
At least he could have changed it up to like "go and beat a gym... I mean dojo", not that it would have made me roll my eyes any less. A game made to appeal to disappointed pokemon fans giving them what they wanted from gamefreak is similar to pokemon? No way!
It seems that all these Pokemon competitors cant break away ftom the Pokemon formula and offer up something truly unique and instead come off as a hollow knock-off. I would think the point on making a game that is clearly inspired by another title especially something as big name as Pokemon would be to offer up some unique gimmick or innovation rather than just imitate it.
So you're gonna complain they have no unique gimmick, then you get proven wrong because their battle system is really unique and changes up the entire gameplay experience for the better, and then you're gonna just say "I don't care"... amazing
@@michelpath98 what is so different about its battle system that elevates it above all the other Pokemon knock-offs? Is the games battles gonna give me a joygasm?
@@vash01251 - No RNG, miss chance, or 1HKOs. - Stamina system instead of PP meaning you can utilize your health pool to get off key attacks but leave you overexerted - Hold system that balances a move's strength and adds a learning curve to when certain moves come online. - Synergy system allowing certain moves to get type boosted and have special effects added by having a friendly Temtem of the corresponding type - Move priority system that is actually a multiplier of your Temtem's speed - Stat changes that carry over through swaps allowing walls/sweepers to be more strategically built/taken down - all doubles format meaning your type switch ins play a valuable roll in outplaying/reading your opponent
I just read that you can not patent or whatever the proper term for these related things- a game mechanics. So if pvp shooter is like pvp shooter 2, you cannot do anything about it unless there are heavy similarities on design and only assets used in a video game are subject for copyright? So pokemon should not have a say regarding pokemon-like games right?
That's because it is. Nintendo and the Pokemon devs should be embarrassed as hell that a tiny indie team made a better Pokemon game for the Switch than they did.
Isnt this the game that had the issue with banning people arbitrarily and over trading with people who have interacted with "hackers"? Then offered no appeal process or support?
The commentary on the side quests was false. Most of the held gear for temtem are from side quests and have major impact on gameplay. So calling them unrewarding is only true if you aren't there for the gameplay... Just trying to be factual here.
so what i gathered from this review (correct me if i am wrong) is you'll enjoy this if you like the competitive pvp aspect of pokemon, but not really if you don't care about that.....which is honestly kind of a bummer in my opinion. I'm on the fence about getting TemTem but the reviews I've been seeing/reading are really not looking good for me idk
i disagre. I play It as If It is a single player game and I dont Care much about pvp. I really had way more Fun playing the campaign in TemTem then I did in Pokémon. The story is more engaging, and the battle mechanics are more challenging.
I'd say look for a more in depth review. This review is not giving the game enough credit. There are plenty of youtubers that actively play TemTem that can give more insight on Pros and Cons.
@@Nomiverse I'm not exactly sure how that would help. I said my issue is that it's mandatory double battles. I don't think watching other reviews is going to somehow make the game not force double battles.
Sorry i misinterpreted it. I didn't see that it was the only thing stopping you from trying it. Either I want to take back what i said and advise against buying it unless you are just gonna play through the story and pvp. Otherwise the game has very lackluster endgame content. As for the double battles I will say i hate double battles in pokémon but the doubles in this game feel better somehow. I think it may be because each island has its own typing that it mainly sticks to so you know what to expect and what to have out first. Additionally its on sale currently so if you do want to end up trying it nows the time.
I wish reviewers would stop referring to monster tamer games to Pokemon. They do it constantly. The worst is when they go "Pokemon Clone". Do you constantly still refer to shooters to Doom? God of War and Horizon to Zelda? No, you don't so just stop already. You typically call games shooters, jrpgs, action-adventure games, etc. so you should do the same thing with this genre as well. Pokemon wasn't even the first game to do this either.
@@KC_Nwosu Every word: "poke-not-tem". So the poke-not-tem script starts with poke-not-tem words, but before you can poke-not-tem explain anything or poke-not-tem get to the poke-not-tem point, you have to poke-not-tem explain why poke-not-tem I am poke-not-tem lost in this poke-not-tem analogy. If you poke-not-tem get to this poke-not-tem point and poke-not-temunderstand, you are poke-not-tem brave.
Seems good. However for 40+ dollars??? Idk not even close to a AAA title and that expensive for a fan made indie game??? Maybe if it was 20. I get it people need to make money, however without a big group of people to vouch for the game or anything to go off of 40 is a bit much of an investment. When for just 20 more you can get Pokémon. Sure Pokémon is becoming more stale but eh. I only even heard about this game from a TH-cam ad thought it was a mobile game
Anyone looking for a creature collector game that actually puts a good spin on the formula should be checking out Monster Sanctuary. Not an MMO/multiplayer, but based solely on this video it doesn't really look like the MMO aspect is more than battling others, which Monster Sanctuary also has.
Its great fun and has some cool ideas and AMAZING character interactions and dialogue. Its VERY lgbtq pro and i find that well-meaning. The following pokem- temtem system is very good while pokemons is not yet... But it makes me love pokemon games even more :)
With Pokemon gen 8 & 9 leaving me super disappointed in the series, I was hoping TemTem would be the indie solution to all of the problems I have with the recent Pokemon games. Sadly, everything I've seen and read doesn't make me excited for TemTem, so I'll probably pass on it.
I'm not the biggest fan of Pokemon as it is today because I want so much more from that genre. So it's disappointing that a game that bills itself as an MMO in the genre chooses to follow so closely in it's footsteps when it had all the freedom to do more.
While I didn't initially back the game, I have played since early-early access back in mid 2020. My review? I wouldn't bother picking this up honestly, even if you are a big fan of monster collecting games. All you can expect is to grind for long hours in order to gain the money and experience you need to do just about anything in this game. Much of the end game content doesn't actually let you use any of the Temtem you've caught along the way, or it's so RNG heavy that you can spend hours playing in a game doing everything right and objectively winning, but the game decides you fall short of the criteria it needs and leaves you with nothing to show for your time.
They said they weren't going to make more temtem.. also said they weren't going to expand on islands / more content. So idk wtf they doing. I double check games that say MMO because I wanna know my time will not be wasted. This will give me around 30 hours for 44$ plus confirmed no new temtem or expansions. Rather get a single player like Pokemon at that point
I love Temtem, I personally don’t care if it’s derivative of Pokémon. Pokémon had the monster tamer market for years and never gave us an mmorpg. Their loss, I’m just glad someone made this game! It’s great!
I feel the same way. Nintendo and the Pokemon devs know fans what a game like this but they won't release one. That's why playing Temtem on the Switch feel so right, lol.
"The monster collecting will only appeal to people who like monster collecting."
"That's... why I'm here."
well not really personally i was more interested in the the battling, people i don't really think (despite pokemons iconic catch phrase would have you think) that collecting has ever been the main appeal of monster tamers. I've always found building a team throughout the game to be more enjoyable than actually completing the "pokedex" (or whatever the game in question chooses to call it)
Souls-like and Rogue-like/lite are accepted terms in the games industry, but monster collecting games or Poke-likes seem to be forbidden fruit.
Cuz Nintendo lawyers are no joke
Nah, there's a few good Pokemon-like games. I'd suggest trying Nexomon.
I call them monster tamers and they are the usual jrpgs I stay interested in. Pokémon and SMT/Persona.
Cus pokemon like isn't accurate or encompassing enough for monster training games. Digimon and monster rancher play nothing like pokemon, more do most games in the genre outside of being some sort of turn based.
Monster Tamer is the name of these style games. im kinda surprised a game reviewing page like this one doesn't seem to know that.
"Nothing about this system entertains. I'd have appreciated some sort of quest or item that lures specific temtem to you"
These exist in the form of radars and pheromones. Maybe actually play the full game before leaving a review.
Lots I disagree with here.
Its so weird, Pokemon is a franchise that's DESPERATE for some renewal and fresh ideas (and maybe some competent developers), but even the commercial fan remake is basically more of the same Pokemon experience LOL as if we didnt have enough Pokemon games that play like that.
@@anonony9081 I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into Stardew Valley, but I invariably end up feeling both bored and stressed by the short 20-minute real time days (pain in the rear when I'm in the mines) and I don't find any of the NPCs all that interesting. I made it through the first 2 or 3 seasons on my first farm, but can't ever manage even that long on any subsequent attempts.
However, what you describe is something that actually appeals to me. If I found a game like that I'd be far more willing to give it a chance; especially if the days were handled different. Like, make us go back to our house after a certain time, but let us decorate or cook or whatever as the time passes instead of forcing us to sleep and punishing us if we don't. That's what I liked with Spiritfarer and I used the nights to stock up on food and do various crafting I needed to do.
These stamina and synergy systems alone are the breath of fresh air I needed in the monster catching genre.
@@anonony9081
While it’s a very different story from what you outlined, I kinda got that vibe from Atelier Ryza. While a JRPG, the gameplay is more about gathering and crafting than about combat.
Ryza abandons her farm duties to go on an adventure, during which she finds out about alchemy. Studying alchemy gives her an understanding of raw materials similar to her father’s teachings regarding crops. Ryza crafts gathering tools like scythes and axes for her alchemy, resulting in her doing labour by her own choice.
Eventually Ryza gets her own garden for alchemically created seeds. She complains about it being similar to a farm, but still grows her own crops.
It’s really annoying just how much they use from Pokémon. Same baseline story structure with the dojos being a totally shameless copy of the gym system with the literal exact same number, which is also true about the party size and number of moves each Pokémon, I mean creature can learn. Even positive reviews talk about how it’s competitive Pokémon but they fixed it. Sure it’s fine they can be a shameless Pokémon knockoff if they want but I’m really not here for it. It doesn’t do a whole lot to set itself apart.
All Pokémon likes tend to respect the familiar aspects that veterans want a switch up/alternative to
"I can't be Pokémon. Pokémon doesn't have a moustache."
I honestly had a blast with this game and sunk a couple hundred hours into it in early access. But I agree that the end-game is rough, and lacks aspects beyond shiny hunting and breeding. But the story is great, the battle mechanics are good, the graphics are a fresh change, and worth the money if you enjoy collecting games.
They only added end-game activities with 1.0.0 launch, have you tried them?
@@Alnard I haven't! Are they any good?
@@blue.lagoon00 They're phenomenal
I’m almost to endgame and haven’t even paid attention to the story. When I play co-op games I never pay attention to the story. So as far as the story is concerned, I know nothing.
As far as the battle aspects, I loooove the stamina system replacing Power Points. The battle system is the best overhaul difference from the Pokémon games. It feels much more rewarding and is not as simple as using one team to push through an entire play through. This game will require you to play smart, or lose.
The game is built for many different types of play styles for end game. You can be a fashionista, a competitive battler, a breeder, an entrepreneur, or a collector. Tons to do with the 65 side missions scattered throughout the isles on top of the 20-25 hour main campaign.
Overall, TemTem is a great, fun game for a duo of players. Haven’t spent time solo, but I’m a collector, so my time gaming alone have been spent just collecting high stat Tems to sell/breed.
I'm already pretty interested about this game, so thanks for the review IGN, I mean, The Escapist.
Jokes aside, while I appreciate that some of the strenghts and weaknesses of the game were covered, spending half of the review saying that it reminds of pokemon is not very useful, is it? It's what everyone says on any review of monster taming games
If it's just a bargain-brand Pokémon with few new ideas, then the comparison is apt. He's saying it would probably be more fun to just play any of the Pokémon games you haven't already played, or replay one that you haven't played in a while than to play this knockoff.
@@WeeklyMusicalShitposts okay, but it's not a knock off. Is it super similar? Yes. It was heavily inspired by competitive Pokemon and the issues that the pokemon franchise has, like the PP system and lacking certain QoL features and content that are staples in the RPG genre that pokemon is only now addressing in any manner whatsoever. Calling it bargain bin is just insulting and inaccurate. The review takes a surface level look at the game and says 'just play Pokemon instead'. That's like picking up digimon story cyber sleuth and saying 'just pick up SMT instead'. Both super similar games with super similar combat in the same genre, but both clearly different when you take a closer look.
Ok. First things first. The Pokemon jokes stopped being funny after the first time. Yes, I get it. Temtem is a lot like Pokémon. That's why I got this fucking game. At the very least you could have varied the punchlines a bit. Sarcastically drawn comparisons between other things the two things share. Like calling Max Blue, or mixing up Gyms/Dojos or Temcards/Pokeballs.
Other than that though, I mainly disagree with 3 of your points.
For starters, I quite like the side quests. Sure, I'll skip them now and then If I have a lot on my palate. But otherwise there are a lot of great things you can get from them. And even if the reward is just a few pansuns, that's still really good. I'm fucking broke most of the time so any financial aid is welcome.
Second, There is atleast 1 incentive for Catching them all. The game will only tell you if an attack is super effective or not if you have the Temtem you're targeting registered in your Tempedia. Sure, you can usually infer that your attacks will work just by knowing the type matchups. But the aid is still welcome.
And third: The world design is FUCKING AWESOME. I can get why you'd feel the way you do about the first two points. But how the FUCK do you think the world design is bad? Every island in the archipelego is so pretty and has such a distinct feel. From the coral-filled Sillaro River. The rice paddies of Cipunaki, the cities built upon the great trees of Omnisa. THE ENTIRETY OF TUCMA? Temtem is legitimately one of the best-looking games I've played; pardon the human designs. And sure, maybe the actual layout of everything isn't the best? But compared to what? Pokemon games from 10 years ago? They may not be the most interesting, but atleast they've usually got some exploration. Unlike recent Pokemon games.
Atleast there's one thing we can agree on. String Instrument superiority!
I love how not a single clip used in this review goes past level 27 or the 2nd island lol. Also, for god's sake, we know it's like Pokemon. The team themselves literally have said time and time again they wanted to make their own spin on a game heavily inspired by Pokemon.
It's better to use early game content in reviews to avoid spoilers
Hey @Theescapist. You mentioned you want to lure or farm certain temtem. You CAN do this in temtem with radars or digi lairs.
The reviewer probably didn't play that far into it
Don’t forget those sweet sweet pheromones!
I feel like this game has a lot more depth than this guy is giving it credit for!
It doesn’t feel like he even played it, if you did then why did you not mention the harder gameplay, the actual items that help you get tems and the area’s that focus on catching and battling?
2:20 they literally do this multiple times for Tuwai evolutions. You have a monotype gauntlet then get access to a high level area with that specific type and rare tems.
I haven't played in a while but I doubt they'd remove it.
Edit: spelling.
Nope, still there. Six of them now for that matter. Though to be fair I'm not sure how many players are going to go out of their way to do all six shrines, given that they'll probably stop at their starter tuwai
The pokeuhtemtem bit. Pokemon has been around long enough to create it's own rpg sub-genre with monster catchers. This is an amazing first swing at what Pokemon hasn't even tried. MMO monster catcher. You just sound like an offended poke fan.
Played this in early access. Best co-op Pokemon experience I had. Why can't Pokemon do something like this?
I mean pokemon's going to be getting some amount of co-op in the next game. Just got to see how much co-op it'll get.
@@water2770 Oh that nice billion-dollar company took how many yrs, take your fanboy ass somewhere else.
Scarlet and Violet aren't out yet
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e Scarlet and Violet were a major letdown.
I really enjoyed Mart - er, KC's review of this new Pokemon game!
Idk if there are enough games to make this a genre, but either way you didn't seem to answer the fundamental question of how it measures up to Pokemon. You joked about it more than you actually addressed it.
Story is whatever, creature design is on par, world and route design is significantly worse than pokemon, the battle system is quite a lot more interesting and fun (also a lot slower and harder).
Trading and PvP is a lot more accesible due to it being partly an MMO, it even has a PvP ranked queue and a pick and ban phase for your team.
Defintely try it out if your curious and can spare the money
@@michelpath98 The battling alone makes it appealing, I mean, that's a lot of the game 👍
In most areas it's about the same as pokemon. The battle system is far, far better than pokemon (and has no rng at all). The trading system is better than gen 4-7 pokemon and way better than the other gens.
It’s a direct knockoff of Pokémon with not many discernible changes. At least in the 35 hours I put in. There was no innovation I thought, just a copy of a 2 decade old formula.
There are plenty of creature collecting games. Just not a lot that have the budget for both production and marketing.
I stumbled across this video while looking at other Temtem related videos. Sad to say this was a nice attempt at making a review for this game but this video belittles everything about Temtem. Especially since it looks like you haven't even beat the game so this review is technically a half insight on what the game the has to offer. At some point in the video (2:09 through 2:25) the stuff that you complained about that's not in the game is in the game but it's close end-game or entirely post-game and the way you talk about collecting Temtem as if is a pain to do or the only thing to do is the same way some would depict collecting Pokemon.
Pokemon is very popular. I think the point of this game as you said, is to be as close to Pokemon as possible while adding or fixing things people may not like. Pokemon itself already is pretty stale and bland, so it makes sense that this may feel like that. But, to the actual fans and people playing Pokemon, they might like the changes.
The Pokemon jokes didn't hit like you thought they would
But did they hit like you thought they would? Cause that's what's most important here.
@@KC_Nwosu if you ment they brought the video down then yeah.
Indeed
There’s really not that many random battles.. it’s pretty much pokemon and it’s pretty refreshing if you ask me. 😊
But can I actually catch them all or do I need to buy a separate PC and another game?
You can catch them all
I think that's one of the great things of this and other Poke-like games is that most of them don't require you to buy 2 games to get all the mons. PalWorld is another game that just came out that also is a complete game. Pokemon is the only monster collecting game that requires you to have a friend who has the other version or for you to buy 2 copies of the game. All the clones only have 1 version of their games(although some have sequels).
I'm sorry, I did not enjoy this review. We get it. The game is similar to Pokemon. That's why we're here. Collecting Pokemon is a huge draw of Pokemon, so it should also be here. It's nice that you dived into some of the differences between the two games though.
To anyone looking for a Monster Collecting Turn Based RPG, try Monster Sanctuary, it even has a randomizer integrated and optionnal PvP and does a really great job at standing on its own, not being a Pokémon-like
The worst parts of this game are where it's still held back by trying to be pokemon.
I honestly feel like someone else from escapist should have done this review. Your notes were shallow and had-half truths as well as misinformation. Really disappointing to see someone who clearly has no interest in a poke-style game go into a review with not enough preparation.
I find the script for this review forcing to make the phrase "Pok.. I mean Temtem", if it was a one time joke would be fine but it's more like they have no other games they can compare, is understandable Pokemon is a well know franchise but is not the only one white that mechanic (they could use references like Digimon, NinuKuni, etc.)
Same. We get it, it's a Pokemon clone. It might not have been so bad if it didn't sound so forced as you said, but man was that annoying.
They said they won't but I guarantee you if they make enough money they could probably pump out another 50 Tems. This game is amazing and underrated. Definitely not perfect, and a high learning curve to boot but I enjoyed it.
Been playing Temtem since alpha! Really hope this gets at least a strong cult following so Crema can add more content and Temtem!
It feels like it already has one, but unless Scarlett and Violet massively disappoint or quickly get stale the community isn't likely going to see a spike for awhile.
Ouch. I'm kinda happy KC didn't review Coromon.
I don't know why though, but I felt like Coromon, out of all the poke-copycats was the best.
I didnt enjoy Coromon. It felt more JRPG-y than Pokemon clone, and it didn't shine in either scenerio. For a JRPG, the story is sparse, the characters are uninteresting and the puzzles were often and hard (so they were a different kind of challenge rather than a diversion). As a Pokemon clone, I found it too obtuse. I found the separation between skill types and mon types more confusing than helpful and the battles were a bit too hard/draining, making me run back to the pokemon center a lot (teleport/fly was also needlessly complicated).
@@icarue993 To me it just seems the game is just hard for you. Coromon was really great and thought the characters can be uninteresting, except for the Mom, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@theomegayoutube3302 I found it annoying more so than hard. The battles with teh trainers were hard, but that just made me run back to the pokemon center more often. While Pokemon didnt forced me to. Like if EVERY battle is hard, its just annoying.
And the bosses were simply annoying too. They are just massive tanks of health. That's not fun. They have like 5-6 moves instead of 4, but you will still see them all getting spammed. For one, I did a "miss" strat (high evation + low acccuracy mix). The battle lasted 20 bloody minutes! My mons were at the level of teh creature, so what gives!?
I played the game and I like it.
It has these little details during the campaign that made the world feel more alive, like the random NPCs that have there own thing going on when you talk to them.
Every critique he made confused me, has this man never played a Pokémon game especially the newer ones where you have to pay 40-59 extra dollars for "quests" that lead to catching Pokémon
alot of what you said is just wrong, you actually get some fairly powerful and rare temtem just given to you as you play, and you also get rewards from sidequests known as radars which help track not only specific temtem, but their shiny versions, and pokemon was the exact same in having to run around everywhere atleast temtem gives you mounts and unlockable shortcuts through traversal equipment, this review is kinda garbage and is clear you didn't get very far into it
The game is very fun and has a lot of content (even more than some Pokémon games) I highly recommend it especially for those who enjoy Pokémon but want to try something new, the MMORPG mechanics with extra things like lairs/dungeons give a good revamp to the formula.
This game is a really boring wannabe Pokemon scam. DO NOT BUY. You will have to watch ENDLESS super slow, repetitive animations. I repeat DO NOT buy.
If only the game is offline like pokemon does
My biggest concern with playing this game on the Steam deck is that it won't work offline
@@elishevasher2438 my biggest concern of any game is if you cannot play it offline on any device if it can be played solo. It's like drm, but worse.
@@elishevasher2438 my biggest concern of any game is if you cannot play it offline on any device if it can be played solo. It's like drm, but worse.
We get it you only like Pokemon 🙄
What's the best "Catch 'em" game?
The battle system seems cool. It's like digimon world 2 but without the crap. I wonder if they'll ever come out with a tem tem anime and trading card game.
Sounds like most of your problems are to do with the fact it's inspired by older pokemon titles more so than anything the game did itself. The creature collection aspect you complained about is almost identical to how it's handled in pokemon. Also, I'm surprised there was no mention of how the game deals with giving you items to get around like rock climbing kits and a surfboard instead of having a move that takes up space on your Monser.
Yeah, but modern Pokemon games do that too
Dude wtf, Temtem is great, the music, story, actually getting to know everyone and ivs of your teams. Its all great, and actually makes it easier to be "hardcore" than in pokemon
1. It wasn’t funny the first time you replaced the name TemTem with Pokémon. The next 3 times was just annoying. if we can have games be called “metroidvnaia like” or “rogue like” I don’t see why it has to be such a big deal that we have a game that is Pokémon like. You were implying that this game was primarily derivative rather than expanding on a genre’s formula.
2. Yes, this is a monster collection game. It has issues (specifically with the MMO aspects) but it’s still taking what many people used to complain about Pokemon and fixing it (battles are more challenging, the battle system is different with a focus on 2v2, multiplayer features that go beyond just trading).
I’m not saying the game is amazing. I’d give it like a 6/10 (5 being average). It’s worth a shot for those who like monster collecting but aren’t married to it having to be specifically Pokémon.
I’m currently loving it but this review brings up great points. Glad this game is successful!
"Gonna grab a bunch" 🤣
Great review KC!
I think we need to encourage more diversity in the monster catching genre
My favorite part was when KC mispronounced archipelago.
And integral
Poor review, seems like you tried to push and rush a review out for the 1.0.0 patch while just having played the game while still in early access. Did not bother to go over the new content or anything. Half the stuff you complained about the game not having is there now.
From what I understand there are multiple "Pokemon-likes" and each one tries to capture a different generation of Pokemon be in GBA, DS, etc but none of them mix things up in any meaningful way. Think I remember seeing an Adam Millard video that touched on the subject. Then Pokemon Legends Arceus went and actually innovated, and I somehow suspect that future "Pokemon-likes" will be looking at its homework.
One "poke... I mean temtem" joke was enough. It's 2022, Doom clones are just called FPS games now, we understand games in the same genre will be similar so it's kinda rude to talk more about a games inspiration than the game itself in a review.
Are there enough clones to call it a genre? I thought this and Coromon were it, and they both came out this year. IDK 🤷♂, from a 3 minute review we learned
- battle system is unique and interesting
- monster designs are great, people designs suck
- 25 hour main quest is padded with extra walking and random encounter
- coop if fun but clunky
- 1.0 has a couple repeatable quests at endgame, but will need more to keep players engaged
- everything else is a straight rip from Nintendo and not worth talking about
Nah, when a game is that similar in it's structure to the original, it's worth driving it home. (Imagine scolding someone's manners about this issue.)
Also: It's 2022, and people still use the terms "Soulslike", "Roguelike", and "Metroidvania" all the time.
@@arglebargle5531 Right, they call them Soulslikes, Roguelikes, and Metroidvanias, because that's a genre they don't say "Dark so... haha I mean Sekiro" or clones (unless they're trying to be rude) because that implies they aren't recognizable on their own merit.
Words have meaning, who woulda thought?
At least he could have changed it up to like "go and beat a gym... I mean dojo", not that it would have made me roll my eyes any less.
A game made to appeal to disappointed pokemon fans giving them what they wanted from gamefreak is similar to pokemon? No way!
Worst game I have ever played. Its a feminist tran simulator with the lamest pokemon.
It seems that all these Pokemon competitors cant break away ftom the Pokemon formula and offer up something truly unique and instead come off as a hollow knock-off. I would think the point on making a game that is clearly inspired by another title especially something as big name as Pokemon would be to offer up some unique gimmick or innovation rather than just imitate it.
Have you tried it? The combat system is totally different.
@@evylrune i really have no desire to play this game
So you're gonna complain they have no unique gimmick, then you get proven wrong because their battle system is really unique and changes up the entire gameplay experience for the better, and then you're gonna just say "I don't care"... amazing
@@michelpath98 what is so different about its battle system that elevates it above all the other Pokemon knock-offs? Is the games battles gonna give me a joygasm?
@@vash01251 - No RNG, miss chance, or 1HKOs.
- Stamina system instead of PP meaning you can utilize your health pool to get off key attacks but leave you overexerted
- Hold system that balances a move's strength and adds a learning curve to when certain moves come online.
- Synergy system allowing certain moves to get type boosted and have special effects added by having a friendly Temtem of the corresponding type
- Move priority system that is actually a multiplier of your Temtem's speed
- Stat changes that carry over through swaps allowing walls/sweepers to be more strategically built/taken down
- all doubles format meaning your type switch ins play a valuable roll in outplaying/reading your opponent
I just read that you can not patent or whatever the proper term for these related things- a game mechanics. So if pvp shooter is like pvp shooter 2, you cannot do anything about it unless there are heavy similarities on design and only assets used in a video game are subject for copyright? So pokemon should not have a say regarding pokemon-like games right?
Pocket Monsters called Temtem
this honestly looks better and more fun than the new Pokémon
That's because it is. Nintendo and the Pokemon devs should be embarrassed as hell that a tiny indie team made a better Pokemon game for the Switch than they did.
Isnt this the game that had the issue with banning people arbitrarily and over trading with people who have interacted with "hackers"? Then offered no appeal process or support?
Gonna grab a bunch!
The commentary on the side quests was false. Most of the held gear for temtem are from side quests and have major impact on gameplay. So calling them unrewarding is only true if you aren't there for the gameplay...
Just trying to be factual here.
“Gonna grab a bunch” 😂😂😂
seems interesting but I'm going to wait before jumping in
This Is a pretty surface level review.... Seems like you missed a LOT of what the game has to offer. Appreciate you covering it though.
I played thus game for about 120 hours during beta, I had alot of fun. The dialog is pretty funny.
Great video!
According to the reddit, update 1.0 ruined this game. I was really looking forward to trying It out.
Don't listen to reddit. It's full of people.
They've ruined it multiple times throughout development tbf... especially the economy, the shiny hunting and the hype and community they had built
I think you haven't played enough because what you are talking about at 2:15 is in the game.
so what i gathered from this review (correct me if i am wrong) is you'll enjoy this if you like the competitive pvp aspect of pokemon, but not really if you don't care about that.....which is honestly kind of a bummer in my opinion. I'm on the fence about getting TemTem but the reviews I've been seeing/reading are really not looking good for me idk
i disagre. I play It as If It is a single player game and I dont Care much about pvp.
I really had way more Fun playing the campaign in TemTem then I did in Pokémon. The story is more engaging, and the battle mechanics are more challenging.
The biggest issue for me is the forced doubles battles. It's the only thing that's stopped me from trying the game so far.
I'd say look for a more in depth review. This review is not giving the game enough credit. There are plenty of youtubers that actively play TemTem that can give more insight on Pros and Cons.
@@Nomiverse I'm not exactly sure how that would help. I said my issue is that it's mandatory double battles. I don't think watching other reviews is going to somehow make the game not force double battles.
Sorry i misinterpreted it. I didn't see that it was the only thing stopping you from trying it. Either I want to take back what i said and advise against buying it unless you are just gonna play through the story and pvp. Otherwise the game has very lackluster endgame content. As for the double battles I will say i hate double battles in pokémon but the doubles in this game feel better somehow. I think it may be because each island has its own typing that it mainly sticks to so you know what to expect and what to have out first.
Additionally its on sale currently so if you do want to end up trying it nows the time.
We have pokemon at home -
I wish reviewers would stop referring to monster tamer games to Pokemon. They do it constantly. The worst is when they go "Pokemon Clone". Do you constantly still refer to shooters to Doom? God of War and Horizon to Zelda? No, you don't so just stop already. You typically call games shooters, jrpgs, action-adventure games, etc. so you should do the same thing with this genre as well. Pokemon wasn't even the first game to do this either.
So basically a better version than Pokémon
IN Other Words .. This is a Pokemon clone to the max
We get it the game is like pokemon your not funny for repeating the same joke 4 times
Someone called the fun police today.
@@theescapist KC could have shuffle them around. Maybe not just use pokemonTemtem, but also TMs, Pokeballs, etc. Just offering contructive critisism.
I got you next time, I'll go for 5 or 6 so it comes back around again.
@@KC_Nwosu Every word: "poke-not-tem".
So the poke-not-tem script starts with poke-not-tem words, but before you can poke-not-tem explain anything or poke-not-tem get to the poke-not-tem point, you have to poke-not-tem explain why poke-not-tem I am poke-not-tem lost in this poke-not-tem analogy. If you poke-not-tem get to this poke-not-tem point and poke-not-temunderstand, you are poke-not-tem brave.
Seems good. However for 40+ dollars??? Idk not even close to a AAA title and that expensive for a fan made indie game??? Maybe if it was 20. I get it people need to make money, however without a big group of people to vouch for the game or anything to go off of 40 is a bit much of an investment. When for just 20 more you can get Pokémon. Sure Pokémon is becoming more stale but eh. I only even heard about this game from a TH-cam ad thought it was a mobile game
U didnt really spend much time in the Endgame of temtem did u? like ...at all? kinda doubt that ^^
Why asume everybody knows Pokémon?
Anyone looking for a creature collector game that actually puts a good spin on the formula should be checking out Monster Sanctuary. Not an MMO/multiplayer, but based solely on this video it doesn't really look like the MMO aspect is more than battling others, which Monster Sanctuary also has.
that's a pixel game, people want 3D.
Please stop with the Pokemon jokes.
Really annoying that you kept saying Pokémon instead of Temtem. Clearly they are similar, but you’re reviewing Temtem.
DO NOT BUY!
Its great fun and has some cool ideas and AMAZING character interactions and dialogue.
Its VERY lgbtq pro and i find that well-meaning.
The following pokem- temtem system is very good while pokemons is not yet...
But it makes me love pokemon games even more :)
Amazing review KC, PokeTem: Airborne Kanto looks good, I'm going to buy it once I save enough PokeDollars
Thanks, hope you enjoy your time with it!
Pokemon collecting is the same, and pokemon dev has billions and they look like armature made it, your point?
Neat
Ps plus games for December is terrible
This game really reminds me to another title. It's on the tip of my tongue.
Monster Rancher?
@@ArgenteonYT pokemon 💀
It's only a knockoff if it's not fun enough
With Pokemon gen 8 & 9 leaving me super disappointed in the series, I was hoping TemTem would be the indie solution to all of the problems I have with the recent Pokemon games. Sadly, everything I've seen and read doesn't make me excited for TemTem, so I'll probably pass on it.
we need more pokemon rivals so they won't make shitty version of pokemon again
Sounds kinda like they got someone who hates Pokemon to play temtem
I'm not the biggest fan of Pokemon as it is today because I want so much more from that genre. So it's disappointing that a game that bills itself as an MMO in the genre chooses to follow so closely in it's footsteps when it had all the freedom to do more.
It really does just kinda feel... dull? even compared to Pokemon games
Ugly game.
While I didn't initially back the game, I have played since early-early access back in mid 2020. My review? I wouldn't bother picking this up honestly, even if you are a big fan of monster collecting games. All you can expect is to grind for long hours in order to gain the money and experience you need to do just about anything in this game. Much of the end game content doesn't actually let you use any of the Temtem you've caught along the way, or it's so RNG heavy that you can spend hours playing in a game doing everything right and objectively winning, but the game decides you fall short of the criteria it needs and leaves you with nothing to show for your time.
They said they weren't going to make more temtem.. also said they weren't going to expand on islands / more content. So idk wtf they doing. I double check games that say MMO because I wanna know my time will not be wasted. This will give me around 30 hours for 44$ plus confirmed no new temtem or expansions. Rather get a single player like Pokemon at that point
I think temtem only got popular because it's battle system and pokemon fatigue. And maybe coop
looking for a new creature collector because current pokemon is kinda terrible
Thanks for playing KC🙏 Now I know I don't have to grab this one 😋 Cheers man 🍻
Not worth your time to be fair
Not for me
I'm sorry, they're asking *£50* for this thing that looks like a mobile game!?
Get frikken knotted Temtem!
lol, awesome review