I bought this power station and have been testing it for almost a week. I am here precisely for that "LOW VOLTAGE ERROR". I have it connected to a 48v 400w array. I actually charged it to 100% and left it connected to solar and came to check it to see how much power it would lose just being on with the IOT. I know during your testing , it resumed while there was a charge, but in my testing it didn't. Once the sun went down it went down to 98%, then "errored out like yours did". I had to also unplug it and plug it back in for it to even turn on. The second issue I have with it is the IOT button. If the power station does or times out, you need to push the IOT button to get connected back to WiFi or Bluetooth. So basically, you have to set it to never time out of you want the IOT to work all the time and if it does you have to manually turn it on. Both of these things are unacceptable to me, especially when I can get a Bluetti AC180 or Ecoflow Delta 2 for a similar price. Just sharing my 2 Cents. In case it helps someone out.
Bluetti a few years ago was on the right track of having a large capacity battery and a small inverter, I believe it was the EB240, but the inverter was only 1000W would have been ideal with a 1500 or 1800W. I would love for the companies to start producing at most a 1500W or 1800W inverter with a 2000 or 3000 watt capacity battery so as to make it a little more efficient especially during storms and grid outages. They need to re-think their philosophy about home back up and think emergency backup for short term of a day or two so that the lay person is able to power a residential refrigerator longer than 12 to 15 hours. Yes it is good to have large inverters to run high demand appliances but in emergencies a refrigerator is more critical than a microwave. Just my 2¢.
i agree. id like an up to 3k capacity power station with only 500watt inverter at most. id even be happy with a 300 watt inverter. im not looking to run a 1500watt heater or ac unit. there is a market for this. hopefully something comes out
And now we are at the point where the bluetti V2 has a bigger inverter Vs what your saying and insane efficiency.. opposite for what you were asking for /expecting
I've been running pecron e2000 for two years 24/7 running fridge and freezers. I don't get the anker hype. 60v max on solar is pathetic. It's an over priced wall charger. I do get the bluetti and eco flow they are great products.
I bought a fairly comparable unit, in terms of battery capacity and inverter specs, just two years ago...and it was twice as expensive. These products, particularly the batteries, have come a long way.
@JWTX the max Amps/Current rating is just the max current that the power stations charge controller will try to pull from the solar panels. The Isc rating on the panels is just the max possible Current the panels can deliver. So there's no concern if your panels have a higher Isc rating than the controller's max rating other than you might not get the max power out of your panels under certain circumstances.
Thank you for the review. So, this unit sounds good at the superficial level. But the details... sigh. The 2000 watt output is really great but not making the 10 min test is concerning. The NEC defined continuous as 3 hours or MORE... It's not really a pass if it fails to simply meet 10 mins. (And of course I get that it's not convenient to do a 3 hour test as well. But the fact that it didn't meet the 10 mins, should disqualify it) The other issue of not automatically charging via the solar port if you reach 0 charge @11:30 , is a critical function that needs to be fixed. (Thank you for providing that). I do think it is a major inconvenience to have to unplug/plug to get it to recharge via solar. On the PLUS side, the price is pretty good. I might have actually bought this unit, but not with these flaws.
Good review and the price is really affordable. I see Allpowers has their expansion battery available now, B1000, for the R1500 and the R2500. That would be another good system to review.
Actually, I had both of those units on hand to review and I sent them back. I'm just not getting a sufficient quality vibe with Allpowers currently. I hope they turn it around because, on these types of products, budget pricing is extremely welcome...BUT...not if it comes with a significant sacrifice in quality.
Thank you for this break down. Bought 2 of these and 4 200 watt Renogy flexible panels as my first experience with solar. $2200 Everything is still in the box. Hoping to mount it on an icecream truck. Are my panels compatible?
Yes, but likely need a couple of parallel branch connectors to put them in 2S2P connection to ensure that you don't exceed the 80V input max (or 75V MPP max). Something like this: amzn.to/4faA1Qg
Very good video, now my question, I have two power stations and two batteries you reviewed and have had good service from both products. In the winter of camping season I store everything inside and not the cold, should everything be stored at 100% charge for an extended period of time?
storing them in the cold is actually not really a problem...heat will degrade the cells much faster than cold. And the other viewer reply is spot-on. Generally not recommended to store them long-term at 100%... 60-80% would put much less stress on the cells over time.
@@breadwinner134 Thanks for replying, and I do store them around 80%, but on the power bank video it was mentioned to charge the batteries to 100% (every three months) to stop cell degradation, that was confusing to me.
Hmm. Wondering if I should consider this, or an Anker C1000, or wait for next year's Harbor Freight Predator line of power stations. 5 year warranty. Also, no hassles with customer service or replacing if there's a problem. I don't know anything about Oupes.
Great vlog 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼... I may have asked before but please think of us in Europe as I would like to know if this is available in a 220/240 European output (as opposed to 120V)... Many thanks, J
Yikes!!! That idle drain is something else. I was on board to get one until that. I tend to have more lower wattage loads that I need to run all night and maybe a second night. This would be drained pretty quick on those low draw loads.
Would be nice to see what caused the 2000w test to stop prior to full battery drain. I'm assuming the inverter but would be nice to see if adding a 2nd battery would extend this test. Nice work with your testing setup!!
Did I catch you right when you said the AC Inverter uses 4.3% of idle power usage per hour.... HOLY IDLE POWER USAGE BATMAN! @25:49 That's unreal.... Did you notice the solar charge controller being extremely slow on this model? The Mega 2 and Mega 3 took about 8 minutes to get to full solar input.
Yep, you heard me right! :P It's a thirsty beast, no doubt. But no, I didn't notice that the MPPT was slow to get to MPP....certainly not to any degree of annoyance. If anything, I was extremely impressed with the solar charging speed on this unit.
Thanks for the review. The 4% per hour inverter draw is a deal breaker for me, if I need to use it for the frig. Expansion batteries would mitigate, but then I'll stay with the name brands.😊
@moonobservergilles5730 yeah it's a lot of inverter for 1024Wh. But I think the battery expansion options make this a reasonable spec for a budget expandable system.
likely best budget option in its class thx for the review. i know vid is already long but including some info on what the app is capable of would support comparison
..just a quick update...I received an email from Oupes to say that currently do not support 220/240V AC output although they may do in the latter half of next year 😢...(sorry Europe)..
It too bad this company doesn’t realize that make a proprietary AC cable is only condemning themselves to a obsolescence existence down the road. Just pay the licensing fee to Sony like everyone else you cheapskates! 🤨
I bought this power station and have been testing it for almost a week. I am here precisely for that "LOW VOLTAGE ERROR".
I have it connected to a 48v 400w array. I actually charged it to 100% and left it connected to solar and came to check it to see how much power it would lose just being on with the IOT.
I know during your testing , it resumed while there was a charge, but in my testing it didn't. Once the sun went down it went down to 98%, then "errored out like yours did". I had to also unplug it and plug it back in for it to even turn on.
The second issue I have with it is the IOT button. If the power station does or times out, you need to push the IOT button to get connected back to WiFi or Bluetooth. So basically, you have to set it to never time out of you want the IOT to work all the time and if it does you have to manually turn it on.
Both of these things are unacceptable to me, especially when I can get a Bluetti AC180 or Ecoflow Delta 2 for a similar price.
Just sharing my 2 Cents. In case it helps someone out.
Thank you. Very important and informative video for us layman.
Bluetti a few years ago was on the right track of having a large capacity battery and a small inverter, I believe it was the EB240, but the inverter was only 1000W would have been ideal with a 1500 or 1800W. I would love for the companies to start producing at most a 1500W or 1800W inverter with a 2000 or 3000 watt capacity battery so as to make it a little more efficient especially during storms and grid outages. They need to re-think their philosophy about home back up and think emergency backup for short term of a day or two so that the lay person is able to power a residential refrigerator longer than 12 to 15 hours. Yes it is good to have large inverters to run high demand appliances but in emergencies a refrigerator is more critical than a microwave. Just my 2¢.
Just get an accessory battery
@@marcjampolsky5280 I'm good I use eg4 batteries to expand my ecoflow 2000 max.
i agree.
id like an up to 3k capacity power station with only 500watt inverter at most. id even be happy with a 300 watt inverter.
im not looking to run a 1500watt heater or ac unit. there is a market for this.
hopefully something comes out
@@marcjampolsky5280 I have a 5KW battery hooked up to a 1800W inverter.
And now we are at the point where the bluetti V2 has a bigger inverter Vs what your saying and insane efficiency.. opposite for what you were asking for /expecting
I've been wary of brands other than ecoflow, blueetti, anker. But this is a great price point for the features.
I'm pleased with my Pecron E1500LFP, purchased 5 months ago. Its capacity, inverter output & other features hit the sweet spot for me.
I've been running pecron e2000 for two years 24/7 running fridge and freezers. I don't get the anker hype. 60v max on solar is pathetic. It's an over priced wall charger. I do get the bluetti and eco flow they are great products.
I enjoy the way you go through these solar stationd
I bought a fairly comparable unit, in terms of battery capacity and inverter specs, just two years ago...and it was twice as expensive. These products, particularly the batteries, have come a long way.
If you exceed the amps on solar, is it dangerous to the unit? Or does it regulate the amount it uses? Thanks for the review video.... Jeff
@JWTX the max Amps/Current rating is just the max current that the power stations charge controller will try to pull from the solar panels. The Isc rating on the panels is just the max possible Current the panels can deliver. So there's no concern if your panels have a higher Isc rating than the controller's max rating other than you might not get the max power out of your panels under certain circumstances.
Excellent product review.
A better look at the extra battery would be helpful. What can it do on its own vs in conjunction with one of the mégas.
I'll see if I can do that! Thanks for the suggestion. :)
Good review! What type of batteries are these? Are they LiFePO4 or the nickel kind. It makes a difference on life cycles and temperature range.
I checked. They are LiFePO4. That's great.
Thank you for the review. So, this unit sounds good at the superficial level. But the details... sigh.
The 2000 watt output is really great but not making the 10 min test is concerning. The NEC defined continuous as 3 hours or MORE... It's not really a pass if it fails to simply meet 10 mins. (And of course I get that it's not convenient to do a 3 hour test as well. But the fact that it didn't meet the 10 mins, should disqualify it)
The other issue of not automatically charging via the solar port if you reach 0 charge @11:30 , is a critical function that needs to be fixed. (Thank you for providing that). I do think it is a major inconvenience to have to unplug/plug to get it to recharge via solar.
On the PLUS side, the price is pretty good. I might have actually bought this unit, but not with these flaws.
Good review and the price is really affordable. I see Allpowers has their expansion battery available now, B1000, for the R1500 and the R2500. That would be another good system to review.
Actually, I had both of those units on hand to review and I sent them back. I'm just not getting a sufficient quality vibe with Allpowers currently. I hope they turn it around because, on these types of products, budget pricing is extremely welcome...BUT...not if it comes with a significant sacrifice in quality.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors , this alone is reason to be subscriber to your channel. MUCH respect to you and thank you Sir!
Thank you for this break down. Bought 2 of these and 4 200 watt Renogy flexible panels as my first experience with solar. $2200 Everything is still in the box. Hoping to mount it on an icecream truck. Are my panels compatible?
Yes, but likely need a couple of parallel branch connectors to put them in 2S2P connection to ensure that you don't exceed the 80V input max (or 75V MPP max). Something like this: amzn.to/4faA1Qg
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you so much for your advise. Will definitely refer to this at set up time!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Check if that's the correct link.
Very good video, now my question, I have two power stations and two batteries you reviewed and have had good service from both products.
In the winter of camping season I store everything inside and not the cold, should everything be stored at 100% charge for an extended period of time?
The user manual should specify storage and maintenance procedures for the battery. But typically you don't want to store at 100%. Maybe 60-80%.
storing them in the cold is actually not really a problem...heat will degrade the cells much faster than cold. And the other viewer reply is spot-on. Generally not recommended to store them long-term at 100%... 60-80% would put much less stress on the cells over time.
@@breadwinner134 Thanks for replying, and I do store them around 80%, but on the power bank video it was mentioned to charge the batteries to 100% (every three months) to stop cell degradation, that was confusing to me.
Hmm. Wondering if I should consider this, or an Anker C1000, or wait for next year's Harbor Freight Predator line of power stations. 5 year warranty. Also, no hassles with customer service or replacing if there's a problem. I don't know anything about Oupes.
Between those 2, my personal choice would be the Anker C1000.
Thanks!! love my pecron also!!
Great vlog 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼... I may have asked before but please think of us in Europe as I would like to know if this is available in a 220/240 European output (as opposed to 120V)... Many thanks, J
Why buy an unknown thing?! Buy at least Pecron (in Europe), as I did. Satisfied.
@@R...B As anyone you ask who is married will say, You can never be fully satisfied 🤭...(I'm shopping around 🤔)
@@ImNoExpert7 Maybe, maybe..🤔😁
Great overall, but why have a nonstandard connector on the power cable? It's very inconvenient for the customer if the cable is lost or damaged.
Exactly! This is one of those situations where you buy an extra couple of power cables for the future in case the company goes to crap.
wish they had these in Australia
I like mines alot I think if u would had clear then let solar hit the panels it probaby would kick on
Yikes!!! That idle drain is something else. I was on board to get one until that. I tend to have more lower wattage loads that I need to run all night and maybe a second night. This would be drained pretty quick on those low draw loads.
That sounds good but anything less than 2000 W hours I don’t think I would want
Would be nice to see what caused the 2000w test to stop prior to full battery drain. I'm assuming the inverter but would be nice to see if adding a 2nd battery would extend this test. Nice work with your testing setup!!
Did I catch you right when you said the AC Inverter uses 4.3% of idle power usage per hour.... HOLY IDLE POWER USAGE BATMAN! @25:49 That's unreal.... Did you notice the solar charge controller being extremely slow on this model? The Mega 2 and Mega 3 took about 8 minutes to get to full solar input.
Yep, you heard me right! :P It's a thirsty beast, no doubt. But no, I didn't notice that the MPPT was slow to get to MPP....certainly not to any degree of annoyance. If anything, I was extremely impressed with the solar charging speed on this unit.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks
Thanks for the review. The 4% per hour inverter draw is a deal breaker for me, if I need to use it for the frig. Expansion batteries would mitigate, but then I'll stay with the name brands.😊
That's fair! :)
2000w invertor and 1024wh is not the best match ? but could be interresting?
@moonobservergilles5730 yeah it's a lot of inverter for 1024Wh. But I think the battery expansion options make this a reasonable spec for a budget expandable system.
likely best budget option in its class thx for the review. i know vid is already long but including some info on what the app is capable of would support comparison
Wish it was available in Canada....
FYI, Another great deal! The Bluetti AC180 is $300 off right now on Amazon for $499.
Also how long could a person run a small electric blanket?
@rhondacooper3565 for a typical queen size electric blanket you'd be able to get a couple of nights out of that 1024Wh capacity
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you. On site now. Does it come with plugs? It does not say?
..just a quick update...I received an email from Oupes to say that currently do not support 220/240V AC output although they may do in the latter half of next year 😢...(sorry Europe)..
Does this mean that you can't run a 200 watt heater?
@rhondacooper3565 200W heater, yes. 2000W heater? Not a good use case for this size power station.
especially since you going dc to ac back to dc again during first test.
Pecron all the way.
My EP3000 48 volt are shipping. Got my FedEx tracking number s
Too many small issues for me
Had an Oupes, it would blow the GFCI every time I tried. This is a common occurrence according to the blogs. Oupes refused to do anything.
There is know need to have a half-naked woman on the thumbnail for this video.
I almost pressed the do not show anymore because of that.
It too bad this company doesn’t realize that make a proprietary AC cable is only condemning themselves to a obsolescence existence down the road. Just pay the licensing fee to Sony like everyone else you cheapskates! 🤨
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