Hi, centre stands pivot backwards for good reason. If the spring holding the stand breaks on this design, the stand will dig in and you will most likely crash. If it pivots backwards and the spring lets go, then it just drags and lets you know to fix it, without disaster. The rest looks pretty good. Keep up the good work.
Love the simplicity and that you recycled an old bike. All this talk about sustainable and eco friendly city living and I see $4500 electric monstrocity bikes.
I have read your website, and agree with all you say. There is a place for a cargo bike like this, between the longtails, the boxy three-wheelers and a trailer - all totally impractical to many of us living in the UK. I have found the Biba and ODK cargo bikes, which would suit me, as they are low-step. A bike like yours, but easy to get on for old farts like me, is ideal. My brother has built FF motorcycles and, as he said, the ones who criticise usually haven't built anything themselves! Nothing will ever be perfect from first-build. The Juiced Riders videos are proof of that. I like the welding/finish of your bike. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! I agree with what you're saying. I wish I had more time to develop the concept and also manufacturing. I hope I can one day. As it stands the yellow one is being used as much as I can and it's still performing extremely well and has had no adjustments, break downs or problems. Thanks again!
Nice design. I would suggest (from experience) that you eliminate the coaster brake. When at a stop, the coaster limits your ability to adjust the cranks to the optimal position for pushing off comfortably. When moving very slowly, it prevents backpedaling the cranks into a position for good balance.
Thanks for your comment. When you order a CarryGo bike you can choose whatever transmission system you want; Internal gears, belt drive, electric assist etc. The coaster brake was chosen so that one component (rear brake) could be eliminated. And my experience with coaster brakes is quite extensive and you quicly learn to position the pedals for take off when you stop. Thanks again.
I beg to differ. In my experience with a 3 speed back pedal brake, my favorite combination, I learned to place the pedals in an optimum position before coming to a full stop.
@@paulwelkinsdiy A coaster brake complicates things. All you've said here is that you have learned to cope with the complication. You haven't said what the actual benefits to the coaster brake are and why the trade off is worth it. The benefits of coaster brakes are 1) simplicity/ease of maintenance, 2) they allow you to maintain better hand grip 3) good performance in rain and 4) you can put body weight into braking. The bike featured is not about simplicity or ease of use, but moving weight. A rear disc brake would perform as well or better than a coaster. Honestly, given that 80-90% of the stopping power is in the front brake, anything that locks up the rear wheel will do. Furthermore, the optimal position for coaster-braking is with your weight on your non-dominant foot at 3 o'clock. The optimal position for starting from a stop is with your non-dominant foot at 5 o'clock, which means you are using the coaster to come to a stop, but only to reduce speed, in which case stopping power is irrelevant. I'm sure the Sturmey-Archer coaster on your English upright is lovely, but when you are straddling a cargo bike a 200lbs payload and the pedals stuck and 12 and 6 after suddenly braking in heavy traffic, you are going to want to be able to reposition the pedals at a standstill.
It's possible to carry loads at the back, but if you load both front and back, the bike tends to start snaking because of the two pendulum like weights at each end, therefore I recommend that you carry the majority of the weight at the front, and lighter stuff at the back.
A bicycle moves sideways when you pedal (to maintain your balance) and the higher up the load is, the worse the effect will be. However, if the load is only at the front, then the rear and the front don't compete with each other. If the load is at both front and back, then the oscillation will always be slightly different and therefore there's a snaking action induced. I believe that this is why you don't see many cargo bikes with both front and rear load areas. :)
The staggered gates are to prevent pedestrians and cyclists for running straight into the roads They're usually fitted at the end of cycling/pedestrian paths.
I am using a mountain bike for local shopping but it, like most bikes are not well suited to such errands. I have been wanting to build a long tail bike even before ExtraCycle came up with their kit. So, I was all set on building from some salvaged bikes. I considered the Long Johns too. In doing research, I came across the Bilinky delivery bike and discounted it because I could not see how Your CarryGo is similar to the Bilinky delivery bike. I had originally discounted this style for shopping because I couldn't see how it would work from me. Bilinky was mainly selling this bikes to businesses. After seeing your video and website, my views have changed. The box in front makes all the difference. This is easy to load, whatever I load, I can keep an eye on because it is in my sight. The wheel base is only slightly longer than a mountain bike and being maneuverable is important here in the US as well. No staggered gates, but, lots of other obstacles to contend with. The concept, and execution are spot on. Great job with welding it together. All of the parts choices make perfect sense. Normally, I would not use a hydraulic disc brake being a cheapskate and all, however, my bike may end up sitting out in the elements as well. So, I will likely follow this detail. I do like the kick stand. It is easy to operate. I think you gave this part of the design plenty of thought and I can see it is easier to operate than having the kickstand swing back. I noticed that you have a little loop welded to the front rack just in case you want to put a strap on the kick stand. In designing, there is no such thing as perfect. Everything involves trade-offs. So, if I needed to carry kids, long tails and long johns would be better. For just groceries and such, this style is great. Nice work.
Thanks! The more weight on the front, the more alert you need to be. When I have a lot of weight on the front I usually just cycle slower and make sure I don't hit many pot-holes. However, that is with very heavy weight. If you need to carry that much weight on a regular basis, I would suggest a bakfiets or a even a trike. The Carrygo is designed for medium weight cargo in a nimble package. Thanks again for your comment! :)
Thank you very much! I spent quite a long time thinking about how I could use the lid both open and closed. Sadly I was unable to make it waterproof. Thanks again for the compliment! :)
I fucking like that.! I've had two cargo bikes; a LarryvsHarry Bullit (from when I was a bicycle courier) and currently own the slowest cargo bike in the world, the Mike Burrows 8-freight (for my gardening business). I really like this though, it looks a bit like an Omnium Cargo but more beefy(er)! Nice!
That's close to what I had in mind, except I would like to push the crank forward and lower the seat, and then push the rear wheel back a few inches to support a strong rear rack. I think it would improve handling if I could distribute the load fore and aft.
I think it would probably improve handling, but it would also require a completely new frame and up cycling an MTB frame is no longer possible. 😎👍🏻 Thanks for watching and your comment.
Hi, thanks for taking time to watch and comment! There's no latch on the stand, that's correct. I didn't want to put a latch on the stand because it would make things more complicated. The springs are very thick and so far, I've had no problems with the stand at all. I will however consider a latch as an improvement. The cargo box is purely made for my own requirement. It's not part of the bike, but can be built to suit if needed. I do have another, smaller one, for daily errands.
I am shopping around for a touring bike to tour the U.S. as a free man. Free as I can be anyway. I'm Going to live on the road and camp in the woods. fishing and foraging. I showed this cargo bike to my friends and they loved it and I think you did an excellent job with the video.
mikesaari4theup That's very kind of you. Comments like this makes it all feel like it's worth it. Your tour of the U.S sounds wonderful. I hope you have a great time. Maybe one day I can do something similar.
Holly shit, a bottle opener. This bike has it all. I have to say, looks like something a German genius would build. They always over construct their machines. But they are the best. ALWAYS. If you added a solar panel to the top of the box, you could charge all your charging devices. I can see in this video you do have many narrow places to get around.
+Jojo Gun Fang Thank you! Yes, a solar charger could be useful. Thanks for the tip! Here in UK, we don't have much space, so our cycle paths are very narrow, and a longer bike would be very hard to navigate around these narrow spaces. Thanks again for your kind words.
Nice Job ! I ride a bike for Groceries and I think I might be able to build one similar. hydraulic disc brakes are about $100 US - 74 Euros give or take. bottle opener LOL ! nice touch. build a large basket for the front. less weight. this is very good. thanks
The Carrygo project was a custom built cargo bike, if you wanted, you could have had stabilising rockets instead of a physical stand. Or cushions, or latches, or whatever would have suited your budget. However, I am not pursuing this project anymore. Thanks for your comments and thanks for watching.
When you say you're not going to be resurrecting it where do you mean does that mean that this bike is not being currently manufactured? Thank you very much for your reply very informative and thank you for taking the time
Hi, the original idea was to develop a frame, using a recycled, existing bicycle. The criteria for the frame was to carry a load between a standard bicycle rack and a full fledged long-john (bakfiets), but also be a lot more compact so that it would fit into a more urban environment, especially the tight roads and streets of Britain where a long cargo bike cannot get through or a trike is too wide. I achieved this, goal with this frame, and proceeded to market it as a custom built bike. Which in turn meant that you could specify your own hardware (wheels, bars, seat, gears, brakes, etc) to suit your riding requirements. Whilst I've had a considerable amount of interest in the concept, nobody has seemed to want to spend the actual money on a bicycle like this. I don't know exactly why, but I am sensing that people just do not like the idea of spending "hand-crafted" amounts of money on "an old bike" (i.e recycled). This is why I'm not actively pursuing the project anymore. However, I am very happy to help anyone who'd like to build a similar bike (either themselves or through a bike builder). The yellow one featured in the movie is still in my possession and should be sold to make room for future projects. I hope that all makes sense, again, thank you for your interest!
it could do with some more weldining on the rear rack because you need somthing to tie down onto be it staps rope or bungee straps and yu have not got that and most rear racks have this
Only problem I can see with any cargo bicycle is the physical ability of the rider to handle such weights.I am physically fit (ride 10-20 miles a day 7 days a week) and even I have trouble handling loads at 100lbs with a bicycle cargo trailer.Where i live there are flat and hill areas.Just better be in great shape for long distances and hills.
Love the concept of this cargo bike, i.e, recycled components, very sturdy build, narrow and smart weight distribution = a very well thought out car- supplemented utility vehicle. Two Thumbs WAY UP! - However, I live in the USA and shipping my bike to you or having you get a bike in the UK and performing all the required modifications and shipping it back to me is far to COSTLY an option. So, how about offering a COMPLETE set of VERY SPECIFIC and DETAILED plans for the those folks, like myself who are just "over the pond" but DIY minded yet budget constricted. Any thoughts on this idea as I have not seen anyone else suggest it in the comments area so far? I look forward to your reply :)
Hi, thanks for your comment. Sorry about the delayed reply. You're right with regards to the shipping. The price of shipping would be about the price of the unpainted frame. So it really is not worth shipping to the US. However, you're free to build a bike like mine if you want. There's no plans available for two primary reasons, the first is the lack of time to create the plans, the second reason is that all bikes will be different as they're custom made and there will be different donor bikes used. Feel free to email me at jocke @ carrygo.co.uk and I can point you towards some information that might help you building a CarryGo. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks! If you have a basket that loads 20kg, then you should probably know that 15kgs for this bike is absolutely nothing. It rides easily with one person sitting on the front, and one person sitting on the back rack whilst a third person pedals. That's well over 100kg + rider. No problems.
Far out- I didn't see a posative latch to keep the stand in the up position. Sometime in the future someone , too lazy or broke to replace tired springs, will be riding along only to come to a sudden stop. In the event it rains as often in England as it's characterized, I do see people replacing that cargo box or not purchasing it in the first place if it's an option
By the way, where did you locate the "HANDCUFF STYLE Front Wheel Bike Lock? I have tried to find this lock and entered a dozen Google searches only to find MASTER lock handcuff locks but nothing like the frame mounted style you have with the cable in your video? Any suggested sites for those of us in the USA that want to get one of these? Thanks in advance :)
Hi, the lock is an Axa Defender RL Frame Lock with an additional plug in chain lock. Unfortunately I cannot post links in the commnents, but if you go to practicalcycles.com under Security & Safety you will find the locks that the Carrygo has got. The chain hooks on the frame are obviously custom made. Good luck!
Can these bicycles be purchased in the U.S.? ...I'm going to be biking the Appalachian Trail and in-addition to panniers, I'm looking for something that'll haul gear, though without having to cram so much in such a small bike :)
Hi Justin, I've looked into shipping a bike (or frame) to the US, and it's crazy expensive. However, if you find a local bike enthusiast and/or bike builder, then I'm happy to share my knowledge so that they can build a bike for you. Hope you have a great trip!
Excellent. If you fancy giving it a go yourself, then look up Atomic Zombie and their projects. They have plenty of plans, tutorials and even two books. All very practical and easy to build. Good luck!
I got a question for you specifically what kind of cargo would you holler this and what type of people would Industries would people be able to create around this bicycle thank you
Hi, I've hauled various types of cargo from the lightest ones such as when I've been running errands around town, to doing a full weekly shopping. I've also carried two car wheels across town to the tyre shop. With the big box and the rear rack it can carry a lot. However, you need to be more careful the more load you're carrying due to the centre of gravity. It is not suitable for very heavy or bulky loads. As for what industries it could cater for; I think light courier work would be good, especially if geared towards more speed. I think it would also work well for a light craftsperson (bicycle repairs, perhaps light gardening, electrician). It could also see service for a groundskeeper of some kind. Sadly the project is in hiatus at the moment and I have no intention of resurrecting it. Thank you for watching the video though.
A lower centre of gravity would be beneficial in many situations. With very heavy load, you need to take extra care. With normal loads, it’s not any problem. Thank you!
Coaster brake is not the practical on a cargo bike, you want the most power when starting from standing still at a traffic like usually you position the right crank at 3 oclock position however you can't with a coaster brake. Roller brakes will do just fine if you are in a relatively flat area, i would avoid disc brakes on a cargo bike because they tend to get abused and your brake is off if someone hits your bike while parked.
You can have any transmission and brake set-up you want. In this town there's no hills, and when getting used to coaster brakes, you usually position your pedals before you stop. Personally I hate all other brakes than hydraulic brakes, and the front disk is well protected. What bike did you build?
The axles are very strong, and if a customer wants even stronger we can fit thicker axles, 20mm for example. The drop-outs are very close to the actual bearings, so there's very little to deflect in that aspect.
Funny! Just be careful,I don't want your exploded brain matter on my consciousness! You do seem to have seen a bit more than the average UK cyclist. Sadly over here bicycles are seen as sporting goods or recreational toys. Never as utility and transport. this means that practical things like side stands, mud guards, locks, coaster brakes etc have been forgotten. :)
***** Hi Richard, thanks for your comment. I build the cargo bikes individually, to specification by the customer, in Oxfordshire, UK.. I have researched shipping to the USA and unfortunately I have not been able to find a cost effective solution, which in plain speaking means that the bicycle would be silly expensive to import to the USA. I would be happy to assist anyone in the USA to build their own though. You can reach me on the email address provided in the movie comment if you have more questions. Sorry I cannot be of more assistance at this point. Thanks again.
Whilst I'd be more than happy to build one and ship it to the US, my guess is that the cost of shipping would make it unviable. There are alternatives built by Ahearne, Soma Fabrications (Pick up artist), and few more, if that is of any use. Thanks for watching my video.
NinjaViking1 It's an Axa Defender Solid Plus lock with the extra chain. You can search for it online and you should be able to find online retailers. I hope that helps.
j0x0r what happened to my reply here? I added the link I found (following your lead) of how the lock was defeated. It's not like I was telling a trade secret........ They showed it on TV.
So if you forget to lock your bike, whoever steals it gets the key to the lock as well. WHAT!? I'd hate to misjudge a turn on this bike and snag the kickstand on something. Please turn that thing around. I get enough scratches and bruises as it is, thank-you very much! But other than those two potential problems, the bike is quite lovely. I like the idea of a small, rugged, load carrier. A Dutch-style chain guard would be nice. I do hate cleaning chains and dealing with preventable, premature rust.
Hi Ron, thanks for your comments. Whilst I was building the Carrygo, I spent a lot of time thinking about things and testing things out. If you have issues with remembering things, you could fit another lock. The Carrygo was supposed to be a custom cargo bike. The configuration in the video is my suggestion on how it could work. I.e no external gears, hydraulic disk brake, and a lock system that's extremely common amongst practical cycles around the world. If you don't like it, it could have been changed. The same goes with the stand. I went through a few iterations and designs before settling on this compromise. Ideally I'd have seen a system that steadies the bike from a lower point, such as the bottom frame tube. However, simplicity and weight are things I need to consider, hence this solution. I've done a wheelie with the cargo bike, and the stand has been just fine. I have also taken corners very violently whilst skipping off kerbs and such. Never has it been a problem. Also the stand is housed under the cargo bed, so for something to snag the stand, it would have to grab it from underneath the cargo bed. However, as the Carrygo was supposed to be a custom cargo bike, I could have fitted rocket stabilisers if you would have paid for it. I could also have turned the stand around if you would have paid for the extra complexity and would have been find with the added weight (you need a mechanism to put the down and to take it up again from the rider's position). Also, if you keep falling off the bikes, maybe a three wheeler would be a better alternative? I have a chain guard for it, but I never got round to fitting it. If you would have bought a Carrygo, one of your choice would have been fitted. Thanks for your comments again, Ron. I really appreciate all feedback and should I ever venture into this field again, I will review it all.
Jocke Selin Oh, I thought this was a production cycle launch, not a 1 off custom. My mistake. Still, I have no problem not falling off a bike, but when the unexpected happens, design can help a lot. When small children or animals dart into my path, my first thought is to avoid a collision by means of braking and/or evasive maneuver. THIS is when getting snagged can happen. Hedges, ivy, and loose hanging wires or pipes have little sympathy for those of us who don't have a lot of time to plan a safe alternate route. It seems I've touched a sore spot with you, and I'm sorry for that. I did not intend to offend. That's just a way of expression intended to be humorous, but doesn't always get received that way among strangers. Sorry if I presumed too much familiarity. Anyway, the bike is quite nice overall. God bless you, and have a good day.
Hey Ron, thanks for the kind words. The video is quite old now and I could probably do a better job explaining the bike more thoroughly if I did a smilar video today. Sadly the project is shelved and the bike just stands in the shed feeling unloved at the moment. I wish I could have done more with the whole thing - maybe I'll find energy to do a version 2 one day. I see what you mean with obstacle avoidance, and granted, this bike, when loaded requires a lot of respect due to the high centre of gravity (compared to say a long-john style cargo bike). I wish you all the best and thanks again for taking an interest in my project. :)
+Jerold Mitchell Hi Jerold, I already answered your question on Facebook, but I thought I should add the answer here too. The answer is both yes and no. I've had quite a bit of interest in the bike, but nothing concrete, therefore I've decided to park the project for now. If someone wants one built, I'd happily build one. In the future I'd like to design a version 2, if the opportunity arises.
Jocke Selin Thanks for the reply on both platforms. I asked because I have created a resource dedicated to cargo biking. Carrygo is on the list of brands. It sounds like I should leave you off the list for now. If you build based on special order I can leave you on. Let me know. Thanks.
+Jerold Mitchell I would only build the bikes as custom built-to-order bikes regardless, but it sounds like you should remove me, sadly. Also, I have looked into shipping a bicycle to the U.S and the cost was silly-expensive, so if your list of resources is U.S specific, then there's very little point in Carrygo being on there. Sadly. :(
+Jocke Selin I'll leave you off for now. Please keep me posted if you do a version 2 or are inclined to build more. The manufacturer list on www.cargobikelane.com is global. Most of the other resources will be specific to the U.S. Hopefully that will expand as others contribute to the site down the road. Thanks for all the information. Cheers!
+Jerold Mitchell Thanks. I'll bear that in mind. It's a nice list you've got there. It's always useful to get the information collected in one place. Thanks for doing that. We need more cargo bikes! :)
I have serious doubts about this. What happens when i am carrying a heavy load of groceries from Costco or Price Club and i am waiting a a red light and the bike starts to tip over from the weight? Not very practical in my opinion. I suppose you'll say to use the huge kick stand every time i stop? That why the bike trailer was invented. This cargo bike invention doesn't seem like a good idea to me. No offense intended. Sorry, just an honest opinion. Also, all the weight is in the front (when the box is in the front) and there are DISC brakes in the front? Wow! I can see an emergency stop being made and the whole thing flipping over onto the rider. I think the disc brake should be on the rear wheel. When there is a box in the front and the back and they're both filled with groceries and the rider is wheeling (pushing) the bike before getting on to ride it, what if it tips in the other direction and everything spills out? The covers will keep everything in, perhaps yes, but the whole bike is laying on its side. How will mom get it back upright again?
Hi Robbie, Some of your concerns are well founded. The weight the bike can carry, from a construction point of view, is a lot more than most riders can handle. Therefore, the limiting factor is often how confident the rider is. And as with anything, we learn as we go along. You might start off with a lower weight and once you're more comfortable, you can increase the weight. Naturally you should never ride with more weight than you are comfortable with. Safety above everything. The reason the disk brake is at the front (mind you, the rear brake is just as efficient), is because that's where the weight is. As you say, there's a risk of flipping over, just like on any bike (even motorbike) with a powerful front brake. Unloaded the configuration, however, does not have enought weight on the front wheel to lift the rear wheel. The bike simply is too long. It will result in a front wheel skid instead. When loaded, it will obviously depend on where the load is, centre of gravity, on how much propensity the bike will have to flip over. I have never ever experienced even the slightest tendency to lift the rear of the bike, even under very hard braking. I tend to load the heaviest things as close to the centre of the bike as possible, and leave lighter things out towards the perimeter. Without the efficient front brake, the bike would not stop in an efficient manner because the rear wheel will not have enough weight on it to create enough grip to stop. You can easily test this with most vehicles. Get up to speed on your bicycle and lock the rear wheel up and see how far you go, then attempt the same again with only the front brake or both. You'll see the braking distance is greatly reduced. When it comes to the weight, you're right. If the bike starts leaning, it might fall over. However, even the heaviest of two wheelers can be balanced with one hand without almost any effort as long as it's balanced and not leaning over. After all, the bicycle is a lot lighter than the average motorcycle, and you don't see motorcycles falling over at every red light. If I'm unsure, I tend to stop with a slightly wider stance, just to make sure I have plenty of grip under my soles should the bike start to move. The wide and high bars also help stabilise the bike when coming to a halt. All in all, personally I have not experienced any problems with any of the issues you raise, but I can see that there's a chance they could occur, especially for an unexperienced rider. Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for the link! Last mile deliveries should be done on bike. In Oxford, UK we sometimes see bicycle deliveries. The contrast between a huge noisy van is quite stark. Thanks!
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Hi,
centre stands pivot backwards for good reason. If the spring holding the stand breaks on this design, the stand will dig in and you will most likely crash. If it pivots backwards and the spring lets go, then it just drags and lets you know to fix it, without disaster. The rest looks pretty good. Keep up the good work.
That back lock could do with a video all of it's own, genius idea, not what thieves would look for.
It’s a very clever lock for sure. However it is a “normal” product, it’s just not very common, especially in UK. 😎👍🏻
from this to an unimog! good job :D
Thanks! And the Choppa before that! All sorts of weird projects. 😎👍🏻
Love the simplicity and that you recycled an old bike. All this talk about sustainable and eco friendly city living and I see $4500 electric monstrocity bikes.
hammeredscout Thank you! :)
Yes, that's true.
I have read your website, and agree with all you say. There is a place for a cargo bike like this, between the longtails, the boxy three-wheelers and a trailer - all totally impractical to many of us living in the UK. I have found the Biba and ODK cargo bikes, which would suit me, as they are low-step. A bike like yours, but easy to get on for old farts like me, is ideal. My brother has built FF motorcycles and, as he said, the ones who criticise usually haven't built anything themselves! Nothing will ever be perfect from first-build. The Juiced Riders videos are proof of that. I like the welding/finish of your bike. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! I agree with what you're saying. I wish I had more time to develop the concept and also manufacturing. I hope I can one day. As it stands the yellow one is being used as much as I can and it's still performing extremely well and has had no adjustments, break downs or problems. Thanks again!
Just finished watching your video and I am hooked to the idea of customizing it to road side vendors. Lovely.
+Lalit Dhingra Excellent! Let's get more cargo bikes out there. Let me know if you have any questions. :)
Thats a really smart design for a cargo bike, I especially love the box mounted in front with the folding lid, thats a great touch.
I like the neat bike stand you have at the front. :-)
Nice design. I would suggest (from experience) that you eliminate the coaster brake. When at a stop, the coaster limits your ability to adjust the cranks to the optimal position for pushing off comfortably. When moving very slowly, it prevents backpedaling the cranks into a position for good balance.
Thanks for your comment. When you order a CarryGo bike you can choose whatever transmission system you want; Internal gears, belt drive, electric assist etc. The coaster brake was chosen so that one component (rear brake) could be eliminated. And my experience with coaster brakes is quite extensive and you quicly learn to position the pedals for take off when you stop.
Thanks again.
I beg to differ. In my experience with a 3 speed back pedal brake, my favorite combination, I learned to place the pedals in an optimum position before coming to a full stop.
@@paulwelkinsdiy A coaster brake complicates things. All you've said here is that you have learned to cope with the complication. You haven't said what the actual benefits to the coaster brake are and why the trade off is worth it.
The benefits of coaster brakes are 1) simplicity/ease of maintenance, 2) they allow you to maintain better hand grip 3) good performance in rain and 4) you can put body weight into braking.
The bike featured is not about simplicity or ease of use, but moving weight. A rear disc brake would perform as well or better than a coaster. Honestly, given that 80-90% of the stopping power is in the front brake, anything that locks up the rear wheel will do.
Furthermore, the optimal position for coaster-braking is with your weight on your non-dominant foot at 3 o'clock. The optimal position for starting from a stop is with your non-dominant foot at 5 o'clock, which means you are using the coaster to come to a stop, but only to reduce speed, in which case stopping power is irrelevant.
I'm sure the Sturmey-Archer coaster on your English upright is lovely, but when you are straddling a cargo bike a 200lbs payload and the pedals stuck and 12 and 6 after suddenly braking in heavy traffic, you are going to want to be able to reposition the pedals at a standstill.
This is one of the best designs i saw. I love the lock system!
There´s possible to put the box in the back of the bike or it turns hard to ride?
Thanks, Matias! The design is based on the narrow UK streets and passages. A trike or a longer bike would simply not fit.
It's possible to carry loads at the back, but if you load both front and back, the bike tends to start snaking because of the two pendulum like weights at each end, therefore I recommend that you carry the majority of the weight at the front, and lighter stuff at the back.
Probably because the load is to high. There´s another better design, but ugly, looks like you're riding a tub, and makes the bycicle wider.
A bicycle moves sideways when you pedal (to maintain your balance) and the higher up the load is, the worse the effect will be. However, if the load is only at the front, then the rear and the front don't compete with each other. If the load is at both front and back, then the oscillation will always be slightly different and therefore there's a snaking action induced. I believe that this is why you don't see many cargo bikes with both front and rear load areas. :)
The staggered gates are to prevent pedestrians and cyclists for running straight into the roads They're usually fitted at the end of cycling/pedestrian paths.
Very beautiful bicycle. Lots of good design thinking. Thanks and keep up the great work !
I am using a mountain bike for local shopping but it, like most bikes are not well suited to such errands. I have been wanting to build a long tail bike even before ExtraCycle came up with their kit. So, I was all set on building from some salvaged bikes. I considered the Long Johns too. In doing research, I came across the Bilinky delivery bike and discounted it because I could not see how Your CarryGo is similar to the Bilinky delivery bike. I had originally discounted this style for shopping because I couldn't see how it would work from me. Bilinky was mainly selling this bikes to businesses.
After seeing your video and website, my views have changed. The box in front makes all the difference. This is easy to load, whatever I load, I can keep an eye on because it is in my sight. The wheel base is only slightly longer than a mountain bike and being maneuverable is important here in the US as well. No staggered gates, but, lots of other obstacles to contend with.
The concept, and execution are spot on. Great job with welding it together. All of the parts choices make perfect sense. Normally, I would not use a hydraulic disc brake being a cheapskate and all, however, my bike may end up sitting out in the elements as well. So, I will likely follow this detail.
I do like the kick stand. It is easy to operate. I think you gave this part of the design plenty of thought and I can see it is easier to operate than having the kickstand swing back. I noticed that you have a little loop welded to the front rack just in case you want to put a strap on the kick stand.
In designing, there is no such thing as perfect. Everything involves trade-offs. So, if I needed to carry kids, long tails and long johns would be better. For just groceries and such, this style is great. Nice work.
Thanks!
The more weight on the front, the more alert you need to be. When I have a lot of weight on the front I usually just cycle slower and make sure I don't hit many pot-holes. However, that is with very heavy weight. If you need to carry that much weight on a regular basis, I would suggest a bakfiets or a even a trike. The Carrygo is designed for medium weight cargo in a nimble package.
Thanks again for your comment! :)
Thank you very much! I spent quite a long time thinking about how I could use the lid both open and closed. Sadly I was unable to make it waterproof. Thanks again for the compliment! :)
I fucking like that.! I've had two cargo bikes; a LarryvsHarry Bullit (from when I was a bicycle courier) and currently own the slowest cargo bike in the world, the Mike Burrows 8-freight (for my gardening business). I really like this though, it looks a bit like an Omnium Cargo but more beefy(er)! Nice!
Thanks for the compliments! I think both the Bullit and 8-freight are awesome bikes. :)
I love the 8-freight. It makes more sense to have the weight behind you when riding and steering I always thought.
That box on the front has got to create some serious blind spots
Thanks for your kind comment! :) There's a few alternatives in the US, but they are all built from new parts.
That's close to what I had in mind, except I would like to push the crank forward and lower the seat, and then push the rear wheel back a few inches to support a strong rear rack.
I think it would improve handling if I could distribute the load fore and aft.
I think it would probably improve handling, but it would also require a completely new frame and up cycling an MTB frame is no longer possible. 😎👍🏻
Thanks for watching and your comment.
Great design. Love this bike
Thank you! :)
Wow girl that is an amazing cargo bike, its exactly what i ever dream, you are great Great!!!
Thanks for your kind words, Jimmy! :)
What a dream situation. Good to know I'm doing something right. Thanks for your inspiring comments. :)
Hi, thanks for taking time to watch and comment!
There's no latch on the stand, that's correct. I didn't want to put a latch on the stand because it would make things more complicated. The springs are very thick and so far, I've had no problems with the stand at all. I will however consider a latch as an improvement.
The cargo box is purely made for my own requirement. It's not part of the bike, but can be built to suit if needed. I do have another, smaller one, for daily errands.
Wow, The is so good the Bike.
Like for You!.
P. Ben.
Patrick 412 Thank you very much! :)
Well Done, I like it. and when I like something i try to let people know. Wish you all the best.
Thanks for the compliment! :) It really makes a difference hearing from people like yourself. Much appreciated. All the best to you too.
I am shopping around for a touring bike to tour the U.S. as a free man. Free as I can be anyway. I'm Going to live on the road and camp in the woods. fishing and foraging. I showed this cargo bike to my friends and they loved it and I think you did an excellent job with the video.
mikesaari4theup
That's very kind of you. Comments like this makes it all feel like it's worth it. Your tour of the U.S sounds wonderful. I hope you have a great time. Maybe one day I can do something similar.
That is one neat cargo bike, I'm also about downsizing the Dutch concept but have taken on a bit different approach to it.
Thank you! I saw your cargo bike video - looks great!
Holly shit, a bottle opener. This bike has it all. I have to say, looks like something a German genius would build. They always over construct their machines. But they are the best. ALWAYS. If you added a solar panel to the top of the box, you could charge all your charging devices. I can see in this video you do have many narrow places to get around.
+Jojo Gun Fang Thank you! Yes, a solar charger could be useful. Thanks for the tip! Here in UK, we don't have much space, so our cycle paths are very narrow, and a longer bike would be very hard to navigate around these narrow spaces. Thanks again for your kind words.
Thanks! Comments like yours make it all worth while. :)
Un'ottima realizzazione!
Nice Job !
I ride a bike for Groceries and I think I might be able to build one similar.
hydraulic disc brakes are about $100 US - 74 Euros give or take.
bottle opener LOL ! nice touch.
build a large basket for the front. less weight. this is very good. thanks
Looking good 👌
A very nice idea. However, I wasn't too pleased with the clank when the stand was raised. Are there any cushions to prevent it rattling while riding?
The Carrygo project was a custom built cargo bike, if you wanted, you could have had stabilising rockets instead of a physical stand. Or cushions, or latches, or whatever would have suited your budget. However, I am not pursuing this project anymore. Thanks for your comments and thanks for watching.
I want to build a cargo bike with my everlast welder. They look so useful.
Go for it, check out Atomic Zombie for various plans and tutorials. Let me know when it's done, I'd love to see it.
When you say you're not going to be resurrecting it where do you mean does that mean that this bike is not being currently manufactured? Thank you very much for your reply very informative and thank you for taking the time
Hi, the original idea was to develop a frame, using a recycled, existing bicycle. The criteria for the frame was to carry a load between a standard bicycle rack and a full fledged long-john (bakfiets), but also be a lot more compact so that it would fit into a more urban environment, especially the tight roads and streets of Britain where a long cargo bike cannot get through or a trike is too wide.
I achieved this, goal with this frame, and proceeded to market it as a custom built bike. Which in turn meant that you could specify your own hardware (wheels, bars, seat, gears, brakes, etc) to suit your riding requirements. Whilst I've had a considerable amount of interest in the concept, nobody has seemed to want to spend the actual money on a bicycle like this. I don't know exactly why, but I am sensing that people just do not like the idea of spending "hand-crafted" amounts of money on "an old bike" (i.e recycled).
This is why I'm not actively pursuing the project anymore. However, I am very happy to help anyone who'd like to build a similar bike (either themselves or through a bike builder). The yellow one featured in the movie is still in my possession and should be sold to make room for future projects.
I hope that all makes sense, again, thank you for your interest!
Looks like a family friendly omnium
it could do with some more weldining on the rear rack because you need somthing to tie down onto be it staps rope or bungee straps and yu have not got that and most rear racks have this
Only problem I can see with any cargo bicycle is the physical ability of the rider to handle such weights.I am physically fit (ride 10-20 miles a day 7 days a week) and even I have trouble handling loads at 100lbs with a bicycle cargo trailer.Where i live there are flat and hill areas.Just better be in great shape for long distances and hills.
Love the concept of this cargo bike, i.e, recycled components, very sturdy build, narrow and smart weight distribution = a very well thought out car- supplemented utility vehicle. Two Thumbs WAY UP! - However, I live in the USA and shipping my bike to you or having you get a bike in the UK and performing all the required modifications and shipping it back to me is far to COSTLY an option. So, how about offering a COMPLETE set of VERY SPECIFIC and DETAILED plans for the those folks, like myself who are just "over the pond" but DIY minded yet budget constricted. Any thoughts on this idea as I have not seen anyone else suggest it in the comments area so far? I look forward to your reply :)
Hi, thanks for your comment. Sorry about the delayed reply. You're right with regards to the shipping. The price of shipping would be about the price of the unpainted frame. So it really is not worth shipping to the US.
However, you're free to build a bike like mine if you want. There's no plans available for two primary reasons, the first is the lack of time to create the plans, the second reason is that all bikes will be different as they're custom made and there will be different donor bikes used. Feel free to email me at jocke @ carrygo.co.uk and I can point you towards some information that might help you building a CarryGo. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks! If you have a basket that loads 20kg, then you should probably know that 15kgs for this bike is absolutely nothing. It rides easily with one person sitting on the front, and one person sitting on the back rack whilst a third person pedals. That's well over 100kg + rider. No problems.
Far out- I didn't see a posative latch to keep the stand in the up position. Sometime in the future someone , too lazy or broke to replace tired springs, will be riding along only to come to a sudden stop. In the event it rains as often in England as it's characterized, I do see people replacing that cargo box or not purchasing it in the first place if it's an option
By the way, where did you locate the "HANDCUFF STYLE Front Wheel Bike Lock? I have tried to find this lock and entered a dozen Google searches only to find MASTER lock handcuff locks but nothing like the frame mounted style you have with the cable in your video? Any suggested sites for those of us in the USA that want to get one of these? Thanks in advance :)
Hi, the lock is an Axa Defender RL Frame Lock with an additional plug in chain lock. Unfortunately I cannot post links in the commnents, but if you go to practicalcycles.com under Security & Safety you will find the locks that the Carrygo has got. The chain hooks on the frame are obviously custom made. Good luck!
very nice
Can these bicycles be purchased in the U.S.? ...I'm going to be biking the Appalachian Trail and in-addition to panniers, I'm looking for something that'll haul gear, though without having to cram so much in such a small bike :)
Hi Justin, I've looked into shipping a bike (or frame) to the US, and it's crazy expensive. However, if you find a local bike enthusiast and/or bike builder, then I'm happy to share my knowledge so that they can build a bike for you. Hope you have a great trip!
I figured it wasn't going to be cheap
Excellent. If you fancy giving it a go yourself, then look up Atomic Zombie and their projects. They have plenty of plans, tutorials and even two books. All very practical and easy to build. Good luck!
I got a question for you specifically what kind of cargo would you holler this and what type of people would Industries would people be able to create around this bicycle thank you
Hi, I've hauled various types of cargo from the lightest ones such as when I've been running errands around town, to doing a full weekly shopping. I've also carried two car wheels across town to the tyre shop. With the big box and the rear rack it can carry a lot. However, you need to be more careful the more load you're carrying due to the centre of gravity. It is not suitable for very heavy or bulky loads.
As for what industries it could cater for; I think light courier work would be good, especially if geared towards more speed. I think it would also work well for a light craftsperson (bicycle repairs, perhaps light gardening, electrician). It could also see service for a groundskeeper of some kind.
Sadly the project is in hiatus at the moment and I have no intention of resurrecting it. Thank you for watching the video though.
Appritiate the concept and effort , I feel centre of gravity is too high
A lower centre of gravity would be beneficial in many situations. With very heavy load, you need to take extra care. With normal loads, it’s not any problem. Thank you!
cool but the biggest issue is gonna be whether the wheel spokes can carry that weight
juanjeremy2012 The wheels are very strong, no issues. Thanks for your comment. :)
Depends on wheel type. There's a video on TH-cam where they put a bike wheel on a Toyota corolla or similar and it doesn't break.
Vadik Golovin
LOL YEAH IT DOESNT BREAK IN THE TWO MINUTES THAT THEY DRIVE THE TOYOTA
It all depends on the diameter of the spokes in the wheel.
Good job!
When there is heavy load at front, is it difficult for you to manage the balance?
Thanks
you should see cargo bikes south america
I'm always interested in checking out cargo bikes. :)
molegfgfgf please post pics
i fucking luv it
Thanks for your comments. If you want to build a bike yourself, search for Atomic Zombie - great plans and great forum with tons of support.
Nice!
Thank you!
Love it
Thank you!
I want to weld up a nice cargo bike with my everlast welder.
Hater's gonna hate. :D
potaters gonna potate
Coaster brake is not the practical on a cargo bike, you want the most power when starting from standing still at a traffic like usually you position the right crank at 3 oclock position however you can't with a coaster brake. Roller brakes will do just fine if you are in a relatively flat area, i would avoid disc brakes on a cargo bike because they tend to get abused and your brake is off if someone hits your bike while parked.
You can have any transmission and brake set-up you want. In this town there's no hills, and when getting used to coaster brakes, you usually position your pedals before you stop. Personally I hate all other brakes than hydraulic brakes, and the front disk is well protected. What bike did you build?
What do you mean with abuse of the disc brake?
I like the simplicity of a coaster brake. If you're not carrying too much weight and in a flat area (like Berlin) it should work well.
What if the wheel axles break? How strong are they?
The axles are very strong, and if a customer wants even stronger we can fit thicker axles, 20mm for example. The drop-outs are very close to the actual bearings, so there's very little to deflect in that aspect.
Great project!
What's the name of the lock?
Thanks! The lock is an Axa Defender lock, with the extra plug-in chain. I got it from Practical Cycles in UK.
Does Axa offer a high rated safety chain?
I'm thinking about a lock solution for our (ordered) cargobike.
You'll have to find out what would be suitable for your needs over at their website. www.axasecurity.com/bike-security/en-gb/products/locks/
Jocke Selin thank you very much and keep on rollin'!
Appreciate your ideas and work.
Thank you! All the best to you too and your new cargo bike! :)
WOW a braking Brake and a locking Lock.
now ive seen everything, if i watch further my brain will explode.
Funny! Just be careful,I don't want your exploded brain matter on my consciousness! You do seem to have seen a bit more than the average UK cyclist. Sadly over here bicycles are seen as sporting goods or recreational toys. Never as utility and transport. this means that practical things like side stands, mud guards, locks, coaster brakes etc have been forgotten. :)
im in the usa do you have a website so i can buy one
***** Hi Richard, thanks for your comment. I build the cargo bikes individually, to specification by the customer, in Oxfordshire, UK.. I have researched shipping to the USA and unfortunately I have not been able to find a cost effective solution, which in plain speaking means that the bicycle would be silly expensive to import to the USA. I would be happy to assist anyone in the USA to build their own though. You can reach me on the email address provided in the movie comment if you have more questions. Sorry I cannot be of more assistance at this point. Thanks again.
j0x0r hi...I have resently built a cargo bike and plan to build more. Your cargo bike would be one I'd like to build.....there are so many!!!
Carlos de Leon Hi Carlos, I'll help you in any way I can. Good luck!
j0x0r thank you
You could licence your patent in other countries, let the actual building take place there; a time-honored practice.
Is not a tricycle more suitable for carrying goods?
Debby Johnson That depends on what goods you're carrying and where you are carrying them.
j0x0r
I agree to agree.
mui buena idea
could i get one in the US???
Whilst I'd be more than happy to build one and ship it to the US, my guess is that the cost of shipping would make it unviable. There are alternatives built by Ahearne, Soma Fabrications (Pick up artist), and few more, if that is of any use. Thanks for watching my video.
What are staggering gates for in the UK?
Drunks riding bikes
🤣👍🏻 The gates are there to prevent people cycling straight into traffic. Or to just annoy cyclists.
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Yeah, terribly sorry. I hate YT’s notification system. I keep missing comments. 😞
@@JockeSelin haha no problem. I thought it was more funny than anything.
where can I get the lock?
NinjaViking1 It's an Axa Defender Solid Plus lock with the extra chain. You can search for it online and you should be able to find online retailers. I hope that helps.
j0x0r
what happened to my reply here?
I added the link I found (following your lead)
of how the lock was defeated.
It's not like I was telling a trade secret........
They showed it on TV.
NinjaViking1 No idea. I've not censored anything. However I don't think you're allowed to post links in TH-cam comments.
Interesting image from min : 2:53
+Baron Local The lock?
Очень классно но это для равнинной местности!!!)))
Yes, but that can be fixed with more gears and/or electric assist. I can build them to any specification! :)
So if you forget to lock your bike, whoever steals it gets the key to the lock as well. WHAT!? I'd hate to misjudge a turn on this bike and snag the kickstand on something. Please turn that thing around. I get enough scratches and bruises as it is, thank-you very much! But other than those two potential problems, the bike is quite lovely. I like the idea of a small, rugged, load carrier. A Dutch-style chain guard would be nice. I do hate cleaning chains and dealing with preventable, premature rust.
Hi Ron, thanks for your comments. Whilst I was building the Carrygo, I spent a lot of time thinking about things and testing things out.
If you have issues with remembering things, you could fit another lock. The Carrygo was supposed to be a custom cargo bike. The configuration in the video is my suggestion on how it could work. I.e no external gears, hydraulic disk brake, and a lock system that's extremely common amongst practical cycles around the world. If you don't like it, it could have been changed.
The same goes with the stand. I went through a few iterations and designs before settling on this compromise. Ideally I'd have seen a system that steadies the bike from a lower point, such as the bottom frame tube. However, simplicity and weight are things I need to consider, hence this solution. I've done a wheelie with the cargo bike, and the stand has been just fine. I have also taken corners very violently whilst skipping off kerbs and such. Never has it been a problem. Also the stand is housed under the cargo bed, so for something to snag the stand, it would have to grab it from underneath the cargo bed. However, as the Carrygo was supposed to be a custom cargo bike, I could have fitted rocket stabilisers if you would have paid for it. I could also have turned the stand around if you would have paid for the extra complexity and would have been find with the added weight (you need a mechanism to put the down and to take it up again from the rider's position). Also, if you keep falling off the bikes, maybe a three wheeler would be a better alternative?
I have a chain guard for it, but I never got round to fitting it. If you would have bought a Carrygo, one of your choice would have been fitted.
Thanks for your comments again, Ron. I really appreciate all feedback and should I ever venture into this field again, I will review it all.
Jocke Selin Oh, I thought this was a production cycle launch, not a 1 off custom. My mistake. Still, I have no problem not falling off a bike, but when the unexpected happens, design can help a lot. When small children or animals dart into my path, my first thought is to avoid a collision by means of braking and/or evasive maneuver. THIS is when getting snagged can happen. Hedges, ivy, and loose hanging wires or pipes have little sympathy for those of us who don't have a lot of time to plan a safe alternate route. It seems I've touched a sore spot with you, and I'm sorry for that. I did not intend to offend. That's just a way of expression intended to be humorous, but doesn't always get received that way among strangers. Sorry if I presumed too much familiarity. Anyway, the bike is quite nice overall. God bless you, and have a good day.
Hey Ron, thanks for the kind words. The video is quite old now and I could probably do a better job explaining the bike more thoroughly if I did a smilar video today. Sadly the project is shelved and the bike just stands in the shed feeling unloved at the moment. I wish I could have done more with the whole thing - maybe I'll find energy to do a version 2 one day.
I see what you mean with obstacle avoidance, and granted, this bike, when loaded requires a lot of respect due to the high centre of gravity (compared to say a long-john style cargo bike).
I wish you all the best and thanks again for taking an interest in my project. :)
Are you still in production and selling this bike?
+Jerold Mitchell Hi Jerold, I already answered your question on Facebook, but I thought I should add the answer here too. The answer is both yes and no. I've had quite a bit of interest in the bike, but nothing concrete, therefore I've decided to park the project for now. If someone wants one built, I'd happily build one. In the future I'd like to design a version 2, if the opportunity arises.
Jocke Selin Thanks for the reply on both platforms. I asked because I have created a resource dedicated to cargo biking. Carrygo is on the list of brands. It sounds like I should leave you off the list for now. If you build based on special order I can leave you on. Let me know. Thanks.
+Jerold Mitchell I would only build the bikes as custom built-to-order bikes regardless, but it sounds like you should remove me, sadly. Also, I have looked into shipping a bicycle to the U.S and the cost was silly-expensive, so if your list of resources is U.S specific, then there's very little point in Carrygo being on there. Sadly. :(
+Jocke Selin I'll leave you off for now. Please keep me posted if you do a version 2 or are inclined to build more. The manufacturer list on www.cargobikelane.com is global. Most of the other resources will be specific to the U.S. Hopefully that will expand as others contribute to the site down the road. Thanks for all the information. Cheers!
+Jerold Mitchell Thanks. I'll bear that in mind. It's a nice list you've got there. It's always useful to get the information collected in one place. Thanks for doing that. We need more cargo bikes! :)
veri good
this would serve to work :)
como puedo comprar una
I'm sorry, but this project is in hiatus and therefore cannot be purchased. I'm happy to help anyone who'd like to build one though.
I have serious doubts about this. What happens when i am carrying a heavy load of groceries from Costco or Price Club and i am waiting a a red light and the bike starts to tip over from the weight? Not very practical in my opinion. I suppose you'll say to use the huge kick stand every time i stop?
That why the bike trailer was invented.
This cargo bike invention doesn't seem like a good idea to me. No offense intended. Sorry, just an honest opinion.
Also, all the weight is in the front (when the box is in the front) and there are DISC brakes in the front? Wow! I can see an emergency stop being made and the whole thing flipping over onto the rider. I think the disc brake should be on the rear wheel.
When there is a box in the front and the back and they're both filled with groceries and the rider is wheeling (pushing) the bike before getting on to ride it, what if it tips in the other direction and everything spills out?
The covers will keep everything in, perhaps yes, but the whole bike is laying on its side. How will mom get it back upright again?
Hi Robbie,
Some of your concerns are well founded. The weight the bike can carry, from a construction point of view, is a lot more than most riders can handle. Therefore, the limiting factor is often how confident the rider is. And as with anything, we learn as we go along. You might start off with a lower weight and once you're more comfortable, you can increase the weight. Naturally you should never ride with more weight than you are comfortable with. Safety above everything.
The reason the disk brake is at the front (mind you, the rear brake is just as efficient), is because that's where the weight is. As you say, there's a risk of flipping over, just like on any bike (even motorbike) with a powerful front brake. Unloaded the configuration, however, does not have enought weight on the front wheel to lift the rear wheel. The bike simply is too long. It will result in a front wheel skid instead. When loaded, it will obviously depend on where the load is, centre of gravity, on how much propensity the bike will have to flip over. I have never ever experienced even the slightest tendency to lift the rear of the bike, even under very hard braking. I tend to load the heaviest things as close to the centre of the bike as possible, and leave lighter things out towards the perimeter. Without the efficient front brake, the bike would not stop in an efficient manner because the rear wheel will not have enough weight on it to create enough grip to stop. You can easily test this with most vehicles. Get up to speed on your bicycle and lock the rear wheel up and see how far you go, then attempt the same again with only the front brake or both. You'll see the braking distance is greatly reduced.
When it comes to the weight, you're right. If the bike starts leaning, it might fall over. However, even the heaviest of two wheelers can be balanced with one hand without almost any effort as long as it's balanced and not leaning over. After all, the bicycle is a lot lighter than the average motorcycle, and you don't see motorcycles falling over at every red light. If I'm unsure, I tend to stop with a slightly wider stance, just to make sure I have plenty of grip under my soles should the bike start to move. The wide and high bars also help stabilise the bike when coming to a halt.
All in all, personally I have not experienced any problems with any of the issues you raise, but I can see that there's a chance they could occur, especially for an unexperienced rider. Thanks for your comment!
Bit of plumbers but action going on.
Needs a redesign the centre of gravity is far too high me feels
It depends on how much weight you're planning on carrying. 100kg is difficult to carry, but 20-40kg is no problem.
Sorry I do admire your efforts though
Andrew Bryant pianotunerbristol
Thanks! :)
I prefer a longtail bike
You should buy a longtail then. :D But let me know if you want a custom built one and I can build it for you. :)
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Thanks for the link! Last mile deliveries should be done on bike. In Oxford, UK we sometimes see bicycle deliveries. The contrast between a huge noisy van is quite stark. Thanks!
Disculpa pero no entendí nada de que dices.
Olen pahoillani, mutta en ymmärrä tuota kieltä.
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Unnecessarily heavy built , center of gravity of load is very high , which makes the bicycle unstable even dangerous to ride !
+Booking ! Feel free to come ride it and judge for yourself whether it is dangerous (hint: it's not).
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Seems way, way over designed and clearly underpowered unless you electrify it..
Seriously? TWEET you? And how would a normal, adult, non-celebrity person get hold of you? Phone or email too un-cool?
Ooops! Sorry, how about an email to jocke@carrygo.co.uk? Would that work? Any comments or questions welcomed.