Triumph Trident 660 vs Kawasaki Z650 | The Perfect First Big Bike | ZigWheels.com
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- The dream of owning a big bike is addictive. In the mass market segment, the first tryst with performance for most Indian bikers is in the form of bikes such as the KTM 390 Duke, Kawasaki Ninja 300 and the TVS Apache RR 310. But when the time comes to make the next jump in performance and displacement, the natural choice is the 650cc class. Over the years, the Kawasaki Z650 has been a crowd favourite owing to its sensible quotient and the dash of performance from its parallel-twin motor. However, that isn’t the case in 2021. With the advent of new bikes such as the Triumph Trident 660 and the Honda CB650R, buyers have more options than ever.
The Honda CB650R is the only inline-four-cylinder bike available in this segment. However, its absurd pricing makes it more of a niche product. The Triumph Trident is the new kid on the block, it has the firepower from its triple-cylinder engine, a bunch of features and more importantly the aspirational Triumph badge. In this comparison we try to find out which bike is the better option for you when you make the leap into the world of mid-displacement performance bikes. We have tested the Triumph Trident 660 and the Kawasaki Z650 on the open highways, twisting mountain roads and the constricted city streets to find a definite winner.
Honestly, When you mention exhaust note - you must play exhaust note (Trident 660) and not drum beats.
Exactly bro
Exactly
I just paused the video to comment exactly this... I was waiting for the Exhaust note to drop but get drum beats.. Wtf
Was about to comment the same
👍 ... Was eagerly waiting to hear the note.... But...
Mind says kawasaki.. Heart says triumph... Wallet Says tvs 100.
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Don't worry listen to your heart, one day your wallet will match top. Just work hard on your dreams. It's a nice joke BTW 😉🐱
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😂🤣😁..
Pradeep, you are right... Isme koi Do rai nahi hai 😆
I wished Shumi is going to come with a third bike..but yea I realised..this isn't powerdrift channel 😂
2 things I'll never forget in my life
1. Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
2. The Z is easy. 🙏👏
And hotel : trivago.......sorry just had to do 😂
“THE EXHAUST NOTE”....proceeds to play music .
Yeah that's what I was thinking
I've ridden both machines. The Trident feels like a Triumph Street Triple engine slapped on a Duke 390. Absolutely beautiful machine
In the end - Triumph Trident 660 Wins😊
Triumph nailed it with a tantalizingly close price, so Trident would be my choice..
But I’m not a fan of the looks of either of these bikes..
Trident looks like the first generation pulsar on steroids:)
@@kaizend9228 from no angle it looks anything like it.... Perhaps one of the most pointless comment I've ever come across... 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@debanjanmukherjee4322 seriously comparing trident to pulsar and Husqvarna to navi is joke which this kids are making now days.
@@kaizend9228 your comparing soya bean with meat lol
@@RED_58 lol
I would still prefer Z650. having owned the ninja 300 for around 4 years now. and I can say Kawasaki bikes are very reliable. other than servicing and brake pad change I had to do nothing.
all well built bikes are. My TVS apache is running smooth from years with servicing.
What is Average paid service cost per year for Ninja 300?
Trident has one powerful feature compare to Z650; Power To Weight Ratio
Triumph really managed to keep it below 190KG. Even 1KG here and there makes a lot of sense within this segment!
Err the Z650 is also 190 kg wet. The Z650 has a 1 litre bigger tank so the differences between the two with similar amounts of fuel is negligible. That said the Trident is far better VFM at this time in India. The only reason I wouldn't go for it would be that its not meant for guys above 5 ft 11.
@@brendonfernandes2877 yah but trident is 3 cylinder and z is 2. So even having 2 cylinder extra so power its power to weight ratio is way better than z650. Also after sale service, service interval is better for trident so trident really hit the winning six here.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 What a silly statement. The Z650 has 2 cylinders but it has 650cc engine capacity which is 10 less than the Trident. The engine size matters much more than just the number of cylinders and both have very similar engine sizes. The Trident has more power that's true and is a better buy if you have the money and have access to a Triumph service center which has fewer service centers. But comparing the weights just by cylinder is ridiculous.
@@brendonfernandes2877 looks like you are new to bike world. Cylinder capacity always makes difference when it comes to power ratio. Triumphs service is always better than kawasaki because you have to do service only once in year and it's reach is as bad as kawasaki. I live in Pune which is metro city and even we have only 1 service center here from kawasaki. So it don't make any difference.
You are paying for kawasakis same old boring machine which didn't get any significant changes over the years. So trident is way better than z650 any given day.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 Buddy I own a Z650. Bought the 2019 model. I still think the Trident is a better bike but you aren't convincing anyone about your knowledge of cylinders. Each engine configuration has it's own plus and minuses. There is a reason the best ADV bike the BMW 1250 GS has a twin cylinder configuration and the best track bikes have a 4 cylinder configuration. They both have their uses. Twin cylinders are for their low end torque while 4 cylinders are great for top speed. 3 cylinders are somewhere in between and a balance between torque and HP.
And while the Trident is better it's not way better. For one the suspension is bad for broken Indian roads. The Z650 has much better suspension for our roads. And it's almost 1 lakh difference in price. If you spend one lakh more than the Trident you get the Z900 which is a far better bike. The Trident also is a very small bike and lacks street presence
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Lovely..... That's what can be said about the crazy comparo after so many years been a subscriber of ZigWheels.
Hey...you guys nail it when it comes to comparisons!!
Enjoyed the video.
Cheers!
The weight of triumph trident is 189kg and z 650 is 191kg just the opposite as shown in this comparison 😎🙏
I was gonna comment this, but since you've done that, I'll just upvote.
I've got the z650 at 187kg wet and the trident at 189kg wet. Sure it's not the ninja 650 at 191kg (the ninja is 193kg)
Even with 15hp difference the performance is similar. Triumph wins engine sound but z650 after 50000miles is still running like new and triumph only God knows how this bike will be after a few years and 20000miles...have they solved the problem with their gearboxes?!
Triumph is reliable ......
Not upto japanese standards but it is reliable
Triumph Trident 660 design is kinda understated compared to Kawasaki Z650, and that helps in city usage! (less eyes means less hands :P)
How about the “ engine heat” issue of both bikes in the city as well as the highway/mountains? What about the seating posture/comfort on the long rides? The soundtrack notes of both bikes?? While the review was fun, it missed out on several key factors unfortunately
Both have well managed heat dissipation. However neither are designed for heavy Indian traffic. Wear jeans or riding pants and not shorts.
Riding comfort depends on rider size and weight. Both are relaxed riding bikes but I wouldn't want to go more than 400/500 kms a day on either bike. Soundtrack of the triumph is far better than the Z650.
I love the simplicity of Trident's looks. First thing I am going to do when (if) I buy one is put a wrap around that UK flag
@@markpaddy3280 Yea I like the sound of that. Thanks so much
So you love their bike and willing to spend on it, but hate their flag?
@@velocity1479 I don't hate it. But I don't like that design to be on my bike
@@yogeshchugh1915 okk cool..
they are proud of their county so they put their flag on their bike, you should respect that, and the union jack makes it feel more premium as it shouts British quality
I broke my FDs n bought a Trident. It's worth every bit of it though. Goosebumps, everytime you rev up the throttle!
Gotta change the exhaust tho
Z650 with Tridents Engine in it would have been a perfect middle weight bike..🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍
One main point many of you never discuss or miss out is the resale value of the Bike in Indian Market, the Kawasaki is a bigger gainer great demand in Indian second hand bike market but with the Trident you will lose several lakhs when you sell it
Definitely, i won't be buying the Trident because it has no resale value as I will be changing my bikes every 2 years hence I will always buy a bike that gives maximum profit while I sell it 👍
I am a Street twin owner but I still think Royal Enfield 650s missing even in the guest appearance in this video.
yes I know very well they (650 twins) don't hold a candle against these two great motorcycles but still as far as big bike and value proposition goes 650s a still from the best prospects in the country and styling well RE did the best job as they will never go out of style.
Yup continental gt has a somewhat good chance against these in terms of styling. Z900/ninja 1000sx have better value quotient. And gt650 ---》 Z900 is a good upgrade path and keeping both makes sense in terms of risk to reward on our roads ( fun but won't kill you).
@shree RE 650 twins are good bikes but it doesnt hold a candle to either one of these bikes!!!
@@subitsaurav You have to start reading I said the exact same thing.....But it has no match for its value proposition common even with this street twin I long for a GT 650, It is because it is an overall complete package.
No other bike in the world as Done that, and to prove it 650s outsell Triumph in its home market, In fact 650s have outsold every single mid displacement bike in England Australia New Zealand America and India
@@bawabiker Please read my comment again
Ha ha, no way, should the Royal enfield appear anywhere near this company.
3 cylinder best of both worlds
Trident always looks like my 2002 Bajaj Pulsar 150. Round Headlamp, almost Same Fuel Tank design, but differs in rear end and Engine, performance 😅
I ain't much into power cruising. I would rather buy a Continental GT650 and modify it completely and still save a lakh!
Okay, by the end you did make me smile with "Z is EaZy" :p
U should have the trident with the other colour.... Just a mesmerizing one!!!
Triumph scores way better in fit and finish
Reliability - kawasaki
@@bawabiker true service interval is 16 k or once in year. Which will be more pocket friendly. Also Kawasaki and it's parts are more costlier than triumph.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 Normal service costs are definitely cheaper but its a myth that Triumph spare parts are cheaper. Not true at all. Both are more or less equally expensive. Also most people use 3rd party spare parts like DID chain sprocket kits and EBC brake pads
I guess from that it's just wiser to wait for the MT-07 launch and see what that bike has to offer in the entry 600-700 cc category. I am pretty sure it will give a tough fight to the Trident.
It's not wise at all. Its infact incredibly unwise to wait for the MT-07 launch. What makes you think Yamaha will even launch the MT-07 in India ? A bike it has NEVER launched here and has ZERO high performance bikes in India for sale ?
@ರಾಮಾಯ卐卐卐 and Honda cb150r
I missed you both. Love the rapport. 😁👌🏻.
And great info on both bikes too. 👍🏻
Red looks like Aditya Thackrey 😂😂😂
Wish you included the CB650R. The Trident and CB almost cost the same here in the Philippines, both at $10000.
Take CB650 inline 4 cylinders
My dude... Cut the drama... Jst give a normal review
Nobody buys a z650
Its not a popular bike but it still sells enough that Kawasaki has kept it. Its a very well rounded bike to be honest. But in this category its clearly outshined by the Trident.
@@brendonfernandes2877 here in india it doesn’t.
@@pranaysahayind Lol I have a Z650 and I love mine. And in my riding groups here there are a few of us. Sorry to disappoint you :p
@@brendonfernandes2877 its okay bud we are from different parts of world.
@@pranaysahayind Oh you are outside India ? I am from Mumbai
Mind says kawi
Heart says trident
Wallet says int650
I think It's Mumbai-Pune highway, most of scene from Pune itself
Very insightful and well guided. 😍🙏
I knew it from the start that Triden was gona win the comparison
The trident is like a sleeper pc. Doesn't look too distinct but performance is extremely good
Arun Anna is gifted with a natural helmet
Benelli 600i : Guys hold my exhaust🔥
@Arun Nadar yaa bro
@Arun Nadar 😂
Amazing comparo video , but honestly was waiting for a standalone review of the triumph trident
Great content!
Kawasaki better , generally most time use is midrange. Reliability, mentenenc, services, parts availability and mileage are a big factors
Yes one big advantage of the Z650 is that its a very practical bike. Easy to ride as you get lots of power even at 2.5k rpm unlike superbikes which have to be high in the rev range to get power.
Triumph motorcycle company should learn from Japanese Big fours about pricing and after sales tactics.
Awesome presentation guys @ZigWheels
Motorcycling is about fun Funnnn watching you guys..good job
Good comparison … Trident is the best. I wish I can buy one but will get the upcoming Royal Enfield Hunter (Garibo ki Trident).
I watched full video and didn't even hear a single sound of exhaust note. All the blah blah doesn't matter ..wasted 🙄
Unfortunately there was some issue with the microphone and it didn't get captured.
I love the way Triumph looks 😍
Jehan feels "More" robotic when he talks. 😛
This is one of the worst reviews i have seen. Talking about exhaust sound but don't show exhaust sound, suddenly they feel wind blast is much controlled one over other even though both are naked bikes.
They mentioned that in a comment above that the microphone stopped working when they were recording the Trident sound and so they couldn't add it in the video unfortunately.
About your second comment even naked bikes have different levels of wind blast depending on seating posture, seat height etc etc. No two bikes are exactly 100% same.
Zig bros when will u guys review the 2021 speed triple RS 1200??
Exactly same thoughts!
@@bawabiker whoa !! I see the spark of the 1200! That's my current "dream bike" as they say, because I've ridden basically all bikes on track under the sun, and am eagerly waiting for THE MOST POWERFUL 3 CYL motorcycle ever made in history !
I didn't know a dream bike because i started with a 100cc fathers bike , to a 200cc supermoto, to a yamaha R1 , damn that's a big jump!
Z650 costs under 7.5L on road , trident costs 8.5L on road. Most important point - the price - was never discussed. I had rather invest 1L more and get z900 for 9.5L.
Finally someone said this. Its better to get z900 instead of trident
weight needs to be considered also Z900 kerb weight is too much
@@ravitejasrigiriraju z900 is in a different class, makes 125hp, can be compared with street triple rs, not trident since it’s only 80hp
pardon my french!!!!!!! NOW THIS IS A FUCKING BIKE REVIEW!!!
Or one could choose the most cost beneficial model in this segment i.e. the Royal Enfield Interceptor...
LOL no go away
I'm a Kawi fan, but have really looked closely at the Trident. It's too new of a model and there are many online with some serious issues (electrical, engine stops at idle, rust, transmission shifting problems). For me, I am not crazy about the look of the Trident's rear. I do like Kawi's styling, and I've never had an issue with my Kawi. So my next will either be Z650 or Z900.
Please show me where. I’m deciding Z or Trident and having a hard time deciding. If the Trident has some real issues I’d like to know. Please link.
@rebman5150 do you have any better idea if trident 660 is a better choice
Pound for pound the 660 makes more sense with the additional features. Wait for some more time (money wise if required) and perhaps a used Street Triple would make more sense instead of a new 660.
Cheers
The used market opens a whole plethora of options. You can get a used Z650 for even 4 lakhs.
@@brendonfernandes2877 of course, being more specific, by spending a little more you get a lot more bike for your money in the Street Triple to the 660. The Z is anyways a lot less bike for me compared to the 660, wouldn’t think about it anyway.
Cheers
@@kurushunwalla True. The Z650 is not worth almost 8 lakhs at all. It should have been around 6.5l on road not 8.
This what I've been wsiting for. Fantastic.
Btw , zigwheels ! Asking you a question and hoping a answer,
i used to race a 220hp race prepped R1 at the Virginia International Raceway, for 5 years , have sold it off to another racer before coming back to india, spent money in a house, and am now looking for a relaxed street riding, and enthusiastic riding, basically a veteran rider looking for a good street bike that can tour too, which bikes do you recommend for me ?
Also I'm looking for a bike below a litre and above 300 ..
Racing has caused my wrists to pain after a long time in the saddle, and due to much racing on my race prepped r1 , by back pain is due to that , I'm looking for a ok ergonomics bike (not a gargoyle).
Can you suggest?.
Also I'd like to have answers from individual members of the zig team ! Like all the hosts, and their opinions. Would love it!
Z900
@@bawabiker yeah , I'm definitely okay without the carbon fibre fairings lol, love that str 765rs , brilliant machine, i track rode it, it was phenomenal, but only if my budget was a little higher as of now😅
@@bawabiker i also get the joke :
" multistrada 950 on your radar"
Radar tech lol, really good infused humour.
Jast bye "Triumph Trident 660" and kall it a dey .
@@neti_neti_ okey ĺol😂😂😂 in yor istyle.😂
Bhai apnki ye dukan band kro,EV ane wale hai!!!!!
Atleast compare the exhaust note !!! I was waiting for it !!! Nice review but need exhaust note always !!!!
They did actually do that but the microphone unfortunately didn't pick it up cleanly and they sent the bike back before they realized there was an issue with the audio.
Liked the script and style, but delivery needs to improve
Arun anna looks like snow man in that arai helmet
I wish you had got the HONDA CB 650 too on the platter.
Try to be more on point instead of sounding like teenagers. Also when talking about exhaust note, actually play it and not cheap bgm. A total waste of time that delivers next to nothing of note...
I have only one question my height is 5.7 can I ride triumph trident 660 it's my dream bike and I never watched it in real life
Tyres on a bike are not something you put a weight-age on in real world conditions. its coz these are test bikes for you as a reviewer!. few moths later these tyres are Toast and you buy a new set! Now things change!
What we learnt today : the Kawasaki is easy
Talks about exhaust note, proceeds with loudest music ever😂
Absolute blast of a comparo. True in every sense
I can't even imagine considering Z650/Ninja650 over the trident660.
I love Honda but not a big fan of the CB650R which kinda looks outdated plus with a outdated dash.
Anyday, i will pick Z900 over both CB & CBR650.
For me, Trident 660 & Z900 are the best picks.
First view 👍
Ktm should get a 500cc n mess up the middle weight segment.
They are going to launch a 490 cc series of bikes in a few years.
Well you guys are saying that the Trident doesn't experience under belly rubs but most other channels are saying it does. Why the discrepancy?
does buying benelli 600i Better then these (as for first big bike?)
One of the worst presented video....less informative more dialogue delivery
Hands down Trident. No chance for Z650...
I love the way trident looks 🔥badass and black 🖤
Fuel efficiency??
Anything from 18 kpl to 27 kpl depending on how you ride.
I'm new to moto and enjoying content from India more as I find that Indian and Thai roads where I live are more similar. Unlike the much smoother roads in Europe and US where majority of TH-cam bike reviews are based on.
Thailand roads are a lot better than India :D
@@vaibhavgoswami6906 We have bad roads here too, my friend, trust me ;-) Add to that we ride faster which makes for much more danger, hence our 5th worst road fatality in the world
If you want the superior performance, and the most premium quality, you need to go with the triumph!
The Z650 is all about affordability and bringing superbikes to enthusiasts.
Well, the cbr 650r is for the veterans returning from racing, and those looking at a 650 aggressive sports tourer, ( both like me ), and cb 650r is simply for quality and bragging rights.
Anytime I will prefer buying a superbike rather than a car.
Love you guys .. kash main ameer hota ..
Might make sense to try and be funny if you're actually funny.
Love these type of video ..please cbr 650r or z900 ka comparison karo na ...
Z900 is king
Wish if you could have added our own RW Twins in this comparison.
They are very underpowered
At the end of the day..trident is the winner...btw...A triumph lover.Where is trident's exhauat note.?
Unfortunately there was some issue with the microphone and it didn't get captured.
You have successfully managed to confuse people. hahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Better wait for final hop than middle weight... Go for Z900 😎
Triumph trident mere liye hi bani hai😌😌😌
Zigwheels, grow up. Stop posting biring content😅
The main problem with trident I see is the bounce at the bumpers. I own a svartpilen 250 and planning to upgrade, and I know it's a pain in ass when the bike bounces on bumpers. Like, it spoils the mood, and also breaks pillion's back.
Z650RS is the right comparison
If only triumph added a bit "more" pillion seat.😏😏
Bike purpose is to ride solo, has the MV Brutale look, looks fantastic for seating size
Trident 🔱 uff 🔥❤️😍
For extra 50K you can buy Z900 instead of Trident 660... Anyway, Trident looks damn sexy and slick!!
You say exhaust sound is good in trident.. but no sound to hear.
Are india me rahte ho our English bolte ho
Logo ko samjna magta he na
Aapna shan pana bahar dikhaoo na
Poora desh ro Raha hai Bajaj platina 100 kyu nahi Iiya . Mere papa mummy taaau kisi Kai paaas Saudi Sai petrol nahi aata .😷
What are you talking about the Trident looks better and more modern, Z looks outdated.