As a reminder: The MikroTik 2.5 GbE switch has a configurable fan control, if you change its lowest setting from the default 0 % to something like 15 % even with its OEM fan you basically still have silent operation but the switch then doesn’t slowly soak up all the heat which out-of-the-box then leads to the fan loudly ramping up to high RPM to cool everything down again regularly. Should be better for the electronic components’ health, too.
That’s correct, Wendell mixed up a 1 GbE model with the 2.5 GbE CRS310-8G+2S+IN he actually meant. MikroTik unfortunately has a habit of not releasing the PoE-capable model at the same time as the regular one. The CRS310-8G+2S+IN’s PCB is already designed to also be used for a PoE variant.
Your 10G Copper SFP+ XCVRs are getting hot because those often pull more than the max power allocated to an SFP+ module, as defined by SFF-8431 4.1. The maximum Module power Consumption at Power Level III is 2 watts, but some 10GBASE-T XCVRs can consume up to 5 watts. 10GBASE-T XCVRs are known to operate outside the allotted power spec of SFP+, leading to higher temperatures
Yes. 10G Copper SFP+ modules in general run hotter then fiber modules or DAC module cables. You wouldn't need a fan at all if it was a fiber module in that SFP+ port.
The VLAN switch is for port isolation. If you switch it on, then the 2.5G ports can only pass traffic to the 10G uplink ports but not to the other 2.5G ports.
Thanks for the look into something for us with this Wendell. I bought the TRENDnet TEG-S762 back in September along with two Intel X550-T2 (you recommended) and got my home office upgraded to 10Gbps. I'm planning on moving the main network stack down to my emerging homeLab office soon so I'll need to buy another 10G switch when that time comes. Appreciated as always!
Afaik the "VLAN switch" isolates some ports from the others, so turning this into two separate switches. This is what it does with others anyway. Maybe the first 4 ports are isolated and the other 4 are still connected to the SFP+, who knows
Yeah, the same idea came to my mind about that toggle switch. Most small switches I used marketed this feature as private VLAN or port based VLAN and isolated every port except one. Imagine removing untagged PVID1 (default) on all ports and assigning them all into separate untagged PVIDs and at the same time having a special port that has all those PVIDs in an untagged way at egress (or access port) as it would be analoguous to tag-based vlan. Except you can't do this using tag based stuff in reality. :) Easy and low cost in some very small or last mile ISP scenarios.
I wish reviewers of network gear not certified for the US market would include WireShark results. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I just don't trust them to not "phone home" even though I'm sure most of them don't.
Amazon has some pretty decent options as well. I too had to result in buying some of these no name brand switches because the alternative name brands are just too expensive for what you get. I bought a four-port 2.5 with two SFP+ one for uplink and one for an additional 10 gig machine It does run hot but it works fine. Big names. Need to step it up and start making cost effective switches Especially with all new devices coming with 2.5 gig
I've been using the MokerLink 8 (8+2) for about 2 months now 24/7 downstream for some IP cams. So far so good. No 2.5/10Gb or SFP, but the cams don't push that much bandwidth.
the "VLAN" feature you see here with physical switch is just a physical isolation, more like a MTU VLAN lets say or AP isolation for wifi people there. This VLAN toggle switch feature is actually very helpful, specially on my install on my apartment building which every room basically have their own ethernet port and you dont want these people to directly communicating to each other, for privacy reasons.
Picking up a 5 port with 2-port SFPs - going to use the 10-gig ports between my desktop and the NAS. The rest is fine at 2.5, including the uplink. Going to need a managed variant though to do some VLAN stuff even at home (I want my IOT Wlan stuff way way off my actual local net, so routing it through the firewall). Going to go with optical for the 10 gig - optical ones draw way less power and thus way less heat, or so I gather. Also, for people wanting absolute minimum power draw, I wonder if this isn't using more on idle than non-PoE; the MicroTik stuff seems to draw more than these cheapos, as well (but only like 5 watts or something).
These Chinese NoName (or funny Names like the NIC GIGA brand, which could cause some embarrassment if pronounced the wrong way) 2.5 GBit Switches getting slowly cheaper.
40x40x20 fan is quite standard. Afaik vlan switch on unmanaged poe switches is not what you think -it's essentially port isolation so that the downlink ports don't see eachother. So port 1 cant talk to port 2. It's for security - if someone hijacks one port, it will not be able to access other ports. In the traditional vlan sence it's nothing like that. Hence no webgui etc.
Picked up the non poe ones to get 10 gbps connection for my server and a dual 2.5 gbE intel i226 for my main pc. With SMB3 I managed to get 3.5 Gbps. It's lovely for Blu-ray rips!
Wonder how long it'll take TP-link to utilise this new chip architecture. They've been lacking this kind of product for their omada platform for a while and with WiFi7 coming in they are in desperate need of a way to fill that entry level 2.5g Poe hole. I run omada at home and the lack of an affordable 2.5g switch with 10g sfp+ has prevented me upgrading to the newer access points. I'd be surprised if I was the only person in this boat.
This would be pretty good in a small business setting, where you have a central switch that distributes 10G fibre to each room, each then distributes 2.5G to the clients. All the VLAN stuff is managed by the expensive central switch so there's no need for anything more than a dumb switch anyway.
thank You for all the good reviews I just went with your suggested tplink 2.5g router and nic, except my TRUENAS core server it seems only the intel 1225/1226 nics plug and play in it, but bonus one pc got upgraded i wasn't planning
The CRS112-8P-4S-IN from Mikrotik is not a comparable switch. No 2.5G and no SFP+. The closest would be the CRS310-8G+2S+IN , but has no PoE offering and no built-in PSU, but it does have management capabilities.
Any switch makers reading this take note and just make a 8 port 2.5 GiB POE switch in the same form factor as the Dell X1008P and you will make BANK !!!!
A good video as always Wendell, i love your cheap and nasty cooling solution... Yeah do have a point about those thermal pads they sure make a difference when used well.
Does anyone know if these can pass 802.1q frames through? Wondering if I can use this with my APS while still being able to use vlans EDIT: I just bought one (4x poe with 2x SFP+ ports model) and it does pass through 802.1q frames fortunately.
I wouldn't put anything from Ali or Temu on my network that my entire life runs through. Sometimes it's worth paying a bit more and probably not made with slave labor. Just saying.
I've got a few of these 2.5gbps "aliexpress" switches (specifically the 4 port 2.5gbps with the dual SFP+) I bought from amazon. I needed a couple for my Kids' rooms for their devices and while I am almost fully Unifi, it was hard to justify $300 for their cheapest switch capable of 2.5gbps. Seems to pass vlan data just fine. I'm powering them with a POE to ethernet/power breakout cable so I didn't have to use the included power supply (unnecessary, but it makes my setup easier). I'm getting 2.2+gbps between their desktops and my server in the basement per iperf3. Hard to say on the longevity, but if they get me a couple of years until 2.5gbps switches from a "known" brand (preferably for me Ubiquiti), then they did what I needed. I think I only paid like $40 after some 30% off coupons on Amazon.
@@Cody4k Yes that was what i thought of, but the current version lacks POE and has a few parts missing from the PCB. Which suggest that a POE version is/was planned, but there were no announcements or release dates.
Mikrotik always does this, first release the non-poe version, but the board is clearly designed for PoE. Then they release the PoE version too. Same as with firmware development (when their switch platform was younger that is) , they released managed switches that were limited to L2 features only, and then with time added L3 hardware offload, MLAG and other "higher end" switch features.
I'm waiting patiently for the 'cheap' 24 port 2.5gig switches... because mine is 'before the dawn of time' if yours is from the dawn of time, as it's only a Netgear gigabit switch...
Will say from ordering a lot from Ali, I’m in the uk but had items delivered as fast as 5 days to as long as 6 weeks lol but on average and 90% of the time it’s 2 weeks window +3days either way on the range. Hope that helps for expectations just make sure it’s a shop with history and buyers etc
I've been looking for over of these cheap ones that is managed as I run lacp on my proxmox/firewall with 2,5g available (only 1gb used per link today). I might get one or I might just change from my i3 N305 based computer to something like the Qotom Q20332G9-S10
At the risk of coming across all paranoid, have these been vetted for spurious traffic, or packet error rates or anything? It may seem pretty wild but the Chinese government could have a lot to gain from implanting 'dodgy' firmware into cheap devices like this, even if it's as simple as them being able to remotely brick the switch. At the end of the day the reason why most of us buy HPE or Cisco for ordinary business purposes, is that they can be pretty well trusted. I should say I don't *think* they'd do that but who knows without confirming?
It is a fair consideration, then again there is also proof (exploits and backdoor so not exactly the same) that the big brands like cisco does this too, willing or not. Sadly you have to verify with Wireshark yourself.
Does that copper SFP converter get extremely hot? Ordered some off Amazon and they got too hot to hold. Also would have been nice if you could have commented on POE output and done a little testing.
Why on earth would you want a normal pc equiped with a 2.5 Gbps port , ik wil not max out 1 gbps , the siwthces are cheap but who needs 2.5 gbps at a pc?
i recently bought one of the switches with a single 10G sfp+ and (5) 2.5G ports from ebay listed as working, new in box but opened - got it home and plugged it in, saw a BIG spark inside of it, then the power LED would just blink, come on then go off ad infinitum...so i thought OK ill try a 2A 12V power supply as maybe the 1A one isn't enough for it and then the power light would stay on, but when I connected cables they did nothing....very disappointing because the price was right and i have seen so many of these for sale on there, they seem great but now i am dissuaded from these
This is what I love with what I call "Chinese capitalism". Hardware somehow become almost "open source" and everyone can use parts of it for their own products. I was looking at coffee grinders a while back and realised that there were pretty much only two different kinds, even if there were hundreds of brands. Same thing with switches and a lot of other things, and it works as long as no one is too cheap when it comes to the parts.
a mistranslation. That's a 10gb-t copper transceiver. 99.99% of "serious" server use uses optical transceivers instead, which is where the mistranslation comes from
@@marcogenovesi8570 Copper also tends to run hotter that Fibre too. Which is part of the problem that Wendell is having. Of course, you don't want Fibre trailing all over an desk getting plugged and unplugged often either.
@@Yandarval you'd be surprised how little ethernet cables like being plugged/unplugged too. The little springy teeth that locks the connector in will break off and you are left with a useless cable unless you cut and re-crimp a new head on it
@@marcogenovesi8570 That is true as well. However, Fibre is still more fragile and the cleaning is not easy without the correct equipment. RJ45s are still more robust and easy to use.
The Chinese “deals” just scare me. I would be curious if someone throws one of these on a Ethernet connected hotspot with WireShark running to see if there are some suspicious packets going to odd places.
If it's sold by a USA company, they can be sued directly, or through a class action suit, or by a state attorney general enforcing consumer protection, safety and privacy laws. In EU an EU seller can be sued for selling a device over GDPR. If it's bought from CCP and imported personally, it is untouchable. Caveat emptor.
@@mjmeans7983 ah sure you can threaten them with a long legal battle to demonstrate it was them and not a supply chain compromise (as it's still made overseas). And if you win it's going to be a slap on the wrist. The GDPR is for protecting the data handled by the seller themselves. It's not about product safety or security. It's easy to scapegoat any backdoor as "software bug" no matter how obvious
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As a reminder: The MikroTik 2.5 GbE switch has a configurable fan control, if you change its lowest setting from the default 0 % to something like 15 % even with its OEM fan you basically still have silent operation but the switch then doesn’t slowly soak up all the heat which out-of-the-box then leads to the fan loudly ramping up to high RPM to cool everything down again regularly. Should be better for the electronic components’ health, too.
Great to know!
And it's not POE or not 2.5G, haven't found one with both on the website.
That’s correct, Wendell mixed up a 1 GbE model with the 2.5 GbE CRS310-8G+2S+IN he actually meant. MikroTik unfortunately has a habit of not releasing the PoE-capable model at the same time as the regular one. The CRS310-8G+2S+IN’s PCB is already designed to also be used for a PoE variant.
@@abavariannormiepleb9470 So you telling me there is a way =) brb heating up solder iron.
Swap the fans to noctua ones and the problem is solved
Your 10G Copper SFP+ XCVRs are getting hot because those often pull more than the max power allocated to an SFP+ module, as defined by SFF-8431 4.1. The maximum Module power Consumption at Power Level III is 2 watts, but some 10GBASE-T XCVRs can consume up to 5 watts. 10GBASE-T XCVRs are known to operate outside the allotted power spec of SFP+, leading to higher temperatures
Yes. 10G Copper SFP+ modules in general run hotter then fiber modules or DAC module cables. You wouldn't need a fan at all if it was a fiber module in that SFP+ port.
The VLAN switch is for port isolation. If you switch it on, then the 2.5G ports can only pass traffic to the 10G uplink ports but not to the other 2.5G ports.
Thanks for the look into something for us with this Wendell. I bought the TRENDnet TEG-S762 back in September along with two Intel X550-T2 (you recommended) and got my home office upgraded to 10Gbps. I'm planning on moving the main network stack down to my emerging homeLab office soon so I'll need to buy another 10G switch when that time comes. Appreciated as always!
Afaik the "VLAN switch" isolates some ports from the others, so turning this into two separate switches. This is what it does with others anyway. Maybe the first 4 ports are isolated and the other 4 are still connected to the SFP+, who knows
Yeah, the same idea came to my mind about that toggle switch. Most small switches I used marketed this feature as private VLAN or port based VLAN and isolated every port except one. Imagine removing untagged PVID1 (default) on all ports and assigning them all into separate untagged PVIDs and at the same time having a special port that has all those PVIDs in an untagged way at egress (or access port) as it would be analoguous to tag-based vlan. Except you can't do this using tag based stuff in reality. :) Easy and low cost in some very small or last mile ISP scenarios.
I wish reviewers of network gear not certified for the US market would include WireShark results. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I just don't trust them to not "phone home" even though I'm sure most of them don't.
So far this one has been quiet. Haven't seen anything despite me baiting it into doing stuff.
@@Level1TechsThat would be a good video
@@Level1TechsThanks. I realize it's a bit paranoid (for switches, at least).
This has been my worry too so I paid $100 for a Netgear, but it doesn't have a SFP port :(
Amazon has some pretty decent options as well.
I too had to result in buying some of these no name brand switches because the alternative name brands are just too expensive for what you get.
I bought a four-port 2.5 with two SFP+ one for uplink and one for an additional 10 gig machine
It does run hot but it works fine.
Big names. Need to step it up and start making cost effective switches
Especially with all new devices coming with 2.5 gig
I've been using the MokerLink 8 (8+2) for about 2 months now 24/7 downstream for some IP cams. So far so good. No 2.5/10Gb or SFP, but the cams don't push that much bandwidth.
the "VLAN" feature you see here with physical switch is just a physical isolation, more like a MTU VLAN lets say or AP isolation for wifi people there. This VLAN toggle switch feature is actually very helpful, specially on my install on my apartment building which every room basically have their own ethernet port and you dont want these people to directly communicating to each other, for privacy reasons.
Careful. Wendell, you're stomping into ServeTheHome's territory here 😅
their battle will be legendary
Really glad you're taking a look at these, I nearly picked up a couple last week.
The "first-time discount" per account can be really worthwhile
Picking up a 5 port with 2-port SFPs - going to use the 10-gig ports between my desktop and the NAS. The rest is fine at 2.5, including the uplink. Going to need a managed variant though to do some VLAN stuff even at home (I want my IOT Wlan stuff way way off my actual local net, so routing it through the firewall). Going to go with optical for the 10 gig - optical ones draw way less power and thus way less heat, or so I gather. Also, for people wanting absolute minimum power draw, I wonder if this isn't using more on idle than non-PoE; the MicroTik stuff seems to draw more than these cheapos, as well (but only like 5 watts or something).
These Chinese NoName (or funny Names like the NIC GIGA brand, which could cause some embarrassment if pronounced the wrong way) 2.5 GBit Switches getting slowly cheaper.
Got mine today, very pleased. With a 10GbE SFP+ DAC cable it stays very cool
Lack of VLAN Management is a bummer but this looks pretty cool otherwise! Have seen some similar products on Amazon, now I understand why.
40x40x20 fan is quite standard. Afaik vlan switch on unmanaged poe switches is not what you think -it's essentially port isolation so that the downlink ports don't see eachother. So port 1 cant talk to port 2. It's for security - if someone hijacks one port, it will not be able to access other ports. In the traditional vlan sence it's nothing like that. Hence no webgui etc.
Awesome review, finally some stuff me as a consumer would actually buy ;-)
I'm running fiber, but I will convert to copper at the end... It's funny how Wendell is always doing stuff that we may end up using sooner than later!
Funny you post this I just ordered the 4x2.5G and 2x 10gig dumb switch for $40
Picked up the non poe ones to get 10 gbps connection for my server and a dual 2.5 gbE intel i226 for my main pc. With SMB3 I managed to get 3.5 Gbps. It's lovely for Blu-ray rips!
Wonder how long it'll take TP-link to utilise this new chip architecture. They've been lacking this kind of product for their omada platform for a while and with WiFi7 coming in they are in desperate need of a way to fill that entry level 2.5g Poe hole.
I run omada at home and the lack of an affordable 2.5g switch with 10g sfp+ has prevented me upgrading to the newer access points. I'd be surprised if I was the only person in this boat.
This would be pretty good in a small business setting, where you have a central switch that distributes 10G fibre to each room, each then distributes 2.5G to the clients. All the VLAN stuff is managed by the expensive central switch so there's no need for anything more than a dumb switch anyway.
thank You for all the good reviews I just went with your suggested tplink 2.5g router and nic, except my TRUENAS core server it seems only the intel 1225/1226 nics plug and play in it, but bonus one pc got upgraded i wasn't planning
The CRS112-8P-4S-IN from Mikrotik is not a comparable switch. No 2.5G and no SFP+. The closest would be the CRS310-8G+2S+IN , but has no PoE offering and no built-in PSU, but it does have management capabilities.
There are also some NICGIGA 10Gbase-T and QFly 10Gbase-T 91gbp, Same as in the new mac mini.
Mount the fan outside the case with a cage and use a plastic sleeve for just inside.
Any switch makers reading this take note and just make a 8 port 2.5 GiB POE switch in the same form factor as the Dell X1008P and you will make BANK !!!!
A good video as always Wendell, i love your cheap and nasty cooling solution... Yeah do have a point about those thermal pads they sure make a difference when used well.
Port per port I guess it worth the money. Fun for modifying 😎
The b-roll for the mikrotik switch is for one of their old switches
This is what I was going to say
Did you got the managed version? were you able to get into the mgmt interface?
The JXD chips cost about $1.38 each in 900+ quantity
I have two 5x2 network switches (5 LAN, 2 SFP) and have already forgotten that everything runs on 2.5 GB.
Just works. From Ali Ex
Oh yes, 10GB Fiber stays nice and cool and fast
JUst saw the vid , well explained and I like the presentation .
the vlan and no vlan thing prob drops the vlan tag from the header or no drop it . Many dumb switches will ignore it anyway.
What’s the cheapest managed 2.5gb switch ?
Does anyone know if these can pass 802.1q frames through? Wondering if I can use this with my APS while still being able to use vlans
EDIT:
I just bought one (4x poe with 2x SFP+ ports model) and it does pass through 802.1q frames fortunately.
I wouldn't put anything from Ali or Temu on my network that my entire life runs through. Sometimes it's worth paying a bit more and probably not made with slave labor. Just saying.
Say that to Iphones lol
I've got a few of these 2.5gbps "aliexpress" switches (specifically the 4 port 2.5gbps with the dual SFP+) I bought from amazon. I needed a couple for my Kids' rooms for their devices and while I am almost fully Unifi, it was hard to justify $300 for their cheapest switch capable of 2.5gbps. Seems to pass vlan data just fine. I'm powering them with a POE to ethernet/power breakout cable so I didn't have to use the included power supply (unnecessary, but it makes my setup easier). I'm getting 2.2+gbps between their desktops and my server in the basement per iperf3. Hard to say on the longevity, but if they get me a couple of years until 2.5gbps switches from a "known" brand (preferably for me Ubiquiti), then they did what I needed. I think I only paid like $40 after some 30% off coupons on Amazon.
And being in a house that was built in 2005, with only Cat 5 already pre-run, I doubt I can get 10gbps reliably, so I'm happy with 2.5gbps.
I bought one from hasivo with dual SFP+ and 5x2.5Gb PoE managed for around $100 from Taobao.
Hi, did u get into the management interface? the default ip which i found, seems not valid. any help would be appreciated :)
@@derMo1984 Let me ask the seller for the manual gain. Old link is no longer valid.
Maybe Wendall should do a collaborative video with Pete from Serve the Home .. ya it's been a edited comment mistakes happen
Yeee Mikrotik, I love thier stuff, it's so good consistently.
What did the IR picture look like when under full load?
Did Wendel just hint at an upcoming 2.5g poe switch from Mikrotik or did i miss-interpret the situation?
Probably the newly launched CRS310-8G+2S+IN. 8x2.5Gbe, 2xSFP+
@@Cody4k Yes that was what i thought of, but the current version lacks POE and has a few parts missing from the PCB. Which suggest that a POE version is/was planned, but there were no announcements or release dates.
Mikrotik always does this, first release the non-poe version, but the board is clearly designed for PoE. Then they release the PoE version too. Same as with firmware development (when their switch platform was younger that is) , they released managed switches that were limited to L2 features only, and then with time added L3 hardware offload, MLAG and other "higher end" switch features.
@@Cody4k yeah i was looking at that but poe is a must for me, however 200 quid for the non poe seemed a little pricey
I'm waiting patiently for the 'cheap' 24 port 2.5gig switches... because mine is 'before the dawn of time' if yours is from the dawn of time, as it's only a Netgear gigabit switch...
insert the "it's been 78 years" meme
I got like 4 of these a few months ago. They are good, management works well. If you don’t save the config it will just forget all configs lol
it's normal for "businness" switches and firewalls to not save immediately changes as you do them. That's how Cisco works and many copied them
How long did it take to be delivered?
No AliExpress review is complete without this information
Will say from ordering a lot from Ali, I’m in the uk but had items delivered as fast as 5 days to as long as 6 weeks lol but on average and 90% of the time it’s 2 weeks window +3days either way on the range. Hope that helps for expectations just make sure it’s a shop with history and buyers etc
@@seanunderscorepryAs someone who does not live in the US or the EU, wait times are basically the same with AliExpress and Amazon :-)
@@seanunderscorepry which is almost always completely useless unless you live in the same general area as the youtuber
Speaking for 🇬🇧, I've put in close to 200 AliExpress orders since Jan 2022 and the vast majority turned up around 10-15 days.
3 watts!? my 16port 1gig dell switch kicks out way more heat than that, my cat loves to sleep on it
I've been looking for over of these cheap ones that is managed as I run lacp on my proxmox/firewall with 2,5g available (only 1gb used per link today).
I might get one or I might just change from my i3 N305 based computer to something like the Qotom Q20332G9-S10
Would a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM 4pin fan work? Does it need to be 12v or 5v?
At the risk of coming across all paranoid, have these been vetted for spurious traffic, or packet error rates or anything? It may seem pretty wild but the Chinese government could have a lot to gain from implanting 'dodgy' firmware into cheap devices like this, even if it's as simple as them being able to remotely brick the switch. At the end of the day the reason why most of us buy HPE or Cisco for ordinary business purposes, is that they can be pretty well trusted. I should say I don't *think* they'd do that but who knows without confirming?
It is a fair consideration, then again there is also proof (exploits and backdoor so not exactly the same) that the big brands like cisco does this too, willing or not.
Sadly you have to verify with Wireshark yourself.
Does anyone consider a POE injector a solution? it doesn't seem to be talked about.
PoE injectors work fine, but it becomes a rats nest very quickly
I’ve yet to be burned by the finely Crafted items of Ali Express. I’m pressing my luck by verbalizing it, though.
Does that copper SFP converter get extremely hot? Ordered some off Amazon and they got too hot to hold. Also would have been nice if you could have commented on POE output and done a little testing.
With the added fan they stay cool. Lot of the time the copper sfp adapters use more power too so it's not an ideal situation.
@@Level1Techs thanks for the reply
All copper SFP+ converters are hot, this is normal. Optic or DAC cables are cool
Why on earth would you want a normal pc equiped with a 2.5 Gbps port , ik wil not max out 1 gbps , the siwthces are cheap but who needs 2.5 gbps at a pc?
Stop making me spend money on your amazing reviews!!!!
Anyone know of a basic 1gB switch that can only be powered via POE? Like its hundred ft away and can't easily get power to it. Thanks!
most mikrotik switches support PoE power, check those
@@marcogenovesi8570 Thank you so much!
i recently bought one of the switches with a single 10G sfp+ and (5) 2.5G ports from ebay listed as working, new in box but opened - got it home and plugged it in, saw a BIG spark inside of it, then the power LED would just blink, come on then go off ad infinitum...so i thought OK ill try a 2A 12V power supply as maybe the 1A one isn't enough for it and then the power light would stay on, but when I connected cables they did nothing....very disappointing because the price was right and i have seen so many of these for sale on there, they seem great but now i am dissuaded from these
If you saw a big spark its probably half fried
As long as it doesn’t burn down my house.
This is what I love with what I call "Chinese capitalism". Hardware somehow become almost "open source" and everyone can use parts of it for their own products. I was looking at coffee grinders a while back and realised that there were pretty much only two different kinds, even if there were hundreds of brands. Same thing with switches and a lot of other things, and it works as long as no one is too cheap when it comes to the parts.
that only works as long as you have a large pool of "others" to take the parts from without paying for R&D.
Now It does report back home to China but for $10 you can't beat it 😂
Tp link is watching!
What the Compufox say?
Seriously, what's a "copper optical transceiver" ?
a mistranslation. That's a 10gb-t copper transceiver. 99.99% of "serious" server use uses optical transceivers instead, which is where the mistranslation comes from
@@marcogenovesi8570 Copper also tends to run hotter that Fibre too. Which is part of the problem that Wendell is having. Of course, you don't want Fibre trailing all over an desk getting plugged and unplugged often either.
@@Yandarval you'd be surprised how little ethernet cables like being plugged/unplugged too. The little springy teeth that locks the connector in will break off and you are left with a useless cable unless you cut and re-crimp a new head on it
@@marcogenovesi8570 That is true as well. However, Fibre is still more fragile and the cleaning is not easy without the correct equipment. RJ45s are still more robust and easy to use.
This isn't Links of friends...
where are the teeeests? 😂
I would rather take Mikrotik CRS310-8G+2S+IN...
I like Aliexpress content
Does it come with a backdoor for china? 👀
wordcount on "fan" anyone?
nice
cool
Howto get the cccp into my network! 😮❤
Humm, Compair with a Microtik switch that cost only 100% more..... sure
Well, if 100% is only $100 more, why not?
@@wedemandcookies Love to see you car shopping, going for a mid-class car and getting the latest Ferrari
It's also superior in every way... Your point?
@@bartsmith7428 you wish the latest Ferrari costed only twice of a mid-class car. Try more with 10 times
@@bartsmith7428 Like I said: In this case it is only $100 not a car. Choosing between a product for $100 and one for $200 is still a sensible range.
Security concerns about a no-name Chinese switch?
it's unmanaged so it's not gonna do much
Fire safety is a different discussion
The Chinese malware is free?
My concern would be if there is any logic in that switch that "randomly" sends your packets back to the CCP mothership !
think i would rather just use power inserters than put the CCP on my network
just let Xi Jin Ping in
In the box, we have an unregulated fire and security hazard from China….yeesh.
hey all the fire hazard stuff is inside the metal box, that has to count for something right
backdoors nom nom!
The Chinese “deals” just scare me. I would be curious if someone throws one of these on a Ethernet connected hotspot with WireShark running to see if there are some suspicious packets going to odd places.
If the chipset has a web gui that isn't available, how can you be absolutely completely sure that there actually isn't one, perhaps accessible by CCP?
how can you be absolutely completely sure that there isn't one in any other switch
If it's sold by a USA company, they can be sued directly, or through a class action suit, or by a state attorney general enforcing consumer protection, safety and privacy laws. In EU an EU seller can be sued for selling a device over GDPR. If it's bought from CCP and imported personally, it is untouchable. Caveat emptor.
@@mjmeans7983 ah sure you can threaten them with a long legal battle to demonstrate it was them and not a supply chain compromise (as it's still made overseas). And if you win it's going to be a slap on the wrist.
The GDPR is for protecting the data handled by the seller themselves. It's not about product safety or security. It's easy to scapegoat any backdoor as "software bug" no matter how obvious
Nice!