HOME MACHINE SHOP TOUR! Demuth Tool & Design: First Year as Self-Employed!
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- When Adam Demuth left his day job last year to become a solopreneur, visiting his home shop was a must. In his garage with a Haas Mini Mill, a Mori Seiki NVD1500 DCG, and a Parker Majestic Surface Grinder, he's been able to maintain a successful small business AND at a low stress level! While many people including myself have experienced the opposite, it's intriguing to know that starting a business doesn't have to cause panic.
First, we'll tour the shop and check out the new updates, share fixturing tips, machining workflows, tooling tips, and then we'll have a sit down chat about what it's been like for him, where he succeeds, struggles, and how he thinks about the present and the future of his business. If you need inspiration or a different take on what starting a business is like, look no further.
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Im not big on leaving comments but this video definitely deserves one. The machining videos are why we are all here but this has to be one of the best videos you have made.
This guy is my hero, managing to run a business in the space of a walk-in closet.
He has a TH-cam channel. - just put up a video on how to measure a boring head using gage blocks and "ears".
Not to mention that Adam seems to be a very genuine guy.
@16:00 the constant trouble of having too small of a machine! My first machining centre had 12 meters of X travel (>39ft!) and one of the last jobs I did on it was 13 meters long. The problem never goes away.. it just gets heavier :)
I could listen to hrs of this type of talk, thanks!
In case you don't know, Adam has a podcast with Josh Hacko called The Precision Microcast.
Oh they mentioned it at the end :P
What a wholesome guy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Adam!
To Adam
One of the best decisions our family ever made was to buy our first factory and after a few years the factory next door. The second one in particular was in terrible condition but it had a half acre of land. We fixed it up in stages as we grew. We used it for many years.
Modern business schools would probably disagree with what we did, In fact our lawyer laughed when he saw the old building! Modern business theory suggests that you finance a brand new plant and then spend your time growing the business. Buying a fixer upper means that you will spend time and money improving the building that you might have spent on the business. What helped us is that we were not forced to do it all at once, this enabled us to do the work in our own time when cash was available. We got a much bigger piece of land than we would have got if it had a new building on it. Remember only land increases in value buildings and plant depreciate. In the end this paid off very handsomely. Inflation another form of compound interest works for you 24/7.
Yes we did have to work hard at our two businesses a real estate business and a manufacturing business. I will leave it up to you to guess which one was the most successful
Regards
John
John you need to do more of these interviews. Tours are great but the knowledge and experiences are the true gold.
I literally took the last video you made with Adam on his own as a sign and quit my day job to be self employed as a job shop. covid sucks but damn i couldn't be happier!
EngineeringScience how are you doing ? Seriously in the same boat right now. Are you happier? Leaving a 100,000$ job for 50,000$ but I’d be happy doing it.
@@thebeaver6596 Wow, we were in the same shoes. I had a nice squishy Enginerding job making good money but just wast happy. I would have to say I have only been on my own just over 6 months but I am making about half of what I did before but a lot of that was the 2 months with out much work due to covid. Things are pickng up now but I wont make more than I did at my last job but I def realized im happer now.... I just buy less toys.... if fact the "toys" I get excited about coming in the mail is new endmills and other business investments...
I too am in the same boat. i have been running my own jobs since 2017 with my own company. still hold a 40/wk job that pays well enough, but i am really looking to grow, and move away from the day job. finding enough work to make it work is proving difficult, but im plugging away at it
plus most of the work i am doing is actually comming from my day job
@@jaredfaustino7844finding enough work has been the challenge for me too... im really at about 60% cap because in a new business... im still convinced ill have to go back to a 9-5 but until that happens im rocking away
We need a 2021 Demuth Tool and Design tour
Kind of courius how long his beard and hair is currently) It get longer for each visit. Joke aside, really great guy, look forward to a new visit
This story resembles my uncle. He started whitworth tool here in kentucky in his garage, slowing up sizing the place untill it became one of the biggest shops in the tri-state. I've also * partially ventured into making my own welding and fabrication business here in town as well with my dad. Currently looking to get my own cnc mill.
Can we all agree if your a Machinist you love the work. I've never met any in my life who didn't.
John, Adam, Excellent!
ATB, Robin
I really enjoyed the big picture chat at the table. Both from great questions and his thoughtful responses.
Hands down one of my favorite SMW videos. Love Adam’s story, and love his business philosophy even more. That’s EXACTLY how I’d like to run a business.
less stress as a business owner is unusual. i burned out badly several years ago. i had five small locations and 35 employees and i felt like i was just waiting for the next disaster every day. hr issues were non-stop and finding talented people to move out to the country was almost impossible even though i paid better than anyone i know. i sold to a corporate group and found out life can actually get worse so now i own one place with 17 employees and it's a lot easier
Glad your doing well Adam, and living life on your terms.
Lovely guy.
OMG i have been waiting for this XD i have been following his instagram since the first tour! great guy very knowledgeable. quick edit to the comment: after watching some of the video, you can really tell johns skills at doing tours has improved also, since the last one he is asking a lot more questions and being spot on with the questions he is asking.
true he got some seriuos journalist skills. Questions were perfect
@@Ale_Lab couldn't agree more man, he was asking the questions I was thinking in my head. I think it helped it was an update and he already knows his story and they chat on Instagram i think.
I started doing my own think back in 2001 when our company was bought out by a bigger company. They were getting rid of compaction. They got what they wanted and sold what was left. So I went with the part that was left. Doing my own business on the side. In 2005 I bought a Haas TM1 mill and a TL1 lathe so at work I would run a Bridgeport mill during the day and run CNC machines at night. My wife would run them during the day. In the end of 2015 They closed the model shop. I was taking blood pressure meds and other meds. After going full time at home I have done good taken off some of my meds. Even went back and shook my old bosses hand and said thanks. Now they are one of my best costumers. Best thing I ever did.
Adam is the epitome of a nice guy.
Gday John, thank you Adam for letting John chat to you again, I got a lot from the conversation, I great to see that a single person company can still be done, I have a question John, can you do a shop update and tell us all again how you got started and what your outlook is now for the business, you company is a credit to you and what you give back, I’m interested to see how Adam is doing in 12 months, again John thank you and thank you Adam, take care, Cheers Matty
Excellent interview, with great questions. I'm a huge fan of Adam's work. Not many machinists pay attention to details and precision the way he does.
Great video! There is so much more to having a small shop than making chips. I particularly enjoyed the talk about the distant future and nearing the end of a career. Both of you are fortunate to recognize that it will come one day. Luckily, I was able to retire from a major railroad almost ten years ago. I am turning 70 in a couple of months and, believe me, it happened very, very fast.
At about the 19:35 mark I could hear the, "sound bomb" of the train horns. Adam Booth has sirens... Adam Demuth now has train horns.
This guys story sounds so much like mine. I moved from a 6000 sq/ft shop to a 600sq/ft garage and was able in increase throughput while obviously extremely cutting my overhead once I figured out what I really wanted to do.
Super interesting and inspiring to get an update from Adam. Very nice machines + humble +hard work + knowledgde! Also learned some new regarding magnetic workholding and chips not getting stuck. Best of wishes to Adam and NYCNC for deliviring gold content.
Thank you both for taking the time to video this and share. It gives great insight.
this dude is literally living my dream.
Almost as good as The BOM, these are the best types of video, more of this please.
Wow! This a great video all the way. Thank you! I'm self employed for 24 years now and share the same insights. I'm public here but if you don't need employees to be happy and pay your bills; stay there and continue to be happy ;-) Best regards, Job
Like most people commenting I love what Adam does and I surely like the Mori Seiki.
But most of all I am impressed with the way the shop is laid out and how clean it is - especially with the surface grinder in the corner.
low stress, no employees is the way to go! Enjoy life, Think ahead and configure your life to allow that...or not....but that's what I like to do and admire. SImple.
It can be low stress working on your own, but in other cases much stress) It's all about the 'set-up', if you get enough income working just 8-10 hour days, or the work take over your life and you spend nights and weekends in the shop.
On the bit about engineer shop communication: Agree!
I'm an engineer who sometimes designs stuff for the job shop across the street to make... sure, a good set of prints (they don't do CAD) gets most of the picture, but having good communication is essential to everybody getting what they want. Not to mention that yes, (obviously) engineers screw up now and then... Due to what I would like to think is good communication, if there's an issue, they know they can and should ask, and I know to listen (or at least try my best to) and clarify. And note what I goofed so I make my prints better the next time. This is how the relationship between Engineer/designer and Machinist/toolmaker/fabricator should be.
You are on the correct path. Good attitude.
FYI, because of your last interview with Adam, we’ve hooked up. We’re only a few miles apart. Very nice and kind man.
Thanks for that.
John
That's one aspect of business I never did consider. The company you build is part of your retirement. If it's big, lucrative and desirable for others to own, at the end of your career you may decide to sell it for a good profit.
Great conversation about the business
Dang I want that Mori Seiki. That little thing is awesome.
That's a $200k machine. Not kidding. You could buy a Fehlmann for how much that thing cost and you'd still have more working space. Like the old Hyper series of machines from Makino this was made for speed without compromise of precision. It is so precise it's more like a jig borer than a high-performance machining center.
Adam is such a great teacher. ❤
You are an inspiration to the future brother! Adam... we need to collaborate! I live in NE Washington . I moved my shop from a barn in Illinois back in 2007 to a 40 acre place in the mountains where A shop is accepted! You will soon learn in your growing pains you are not zoned or allowed your operation in a residential community.
My accomplishments so far granted me another 50 acres on a property that has year round water flows and a hydroelectric power plant with historical significance. I rebuilt 1 of two units that is currently producing electricity.
My goal is to build an off the grid machine shop that makes a product for the future family!
Hello. Could we come and visit your place?
Regards LeRoy
Freedom Energy Yes, you can... contact via email sales@bgitool.com
anyone else get the vibe that Adam i often the smartest guy in the room, there is something about him that just draws me in, i think its because he knows that he knows alot, but is not a showboat at all, maybe even to a fault.
anyways, great video, love it, good questions john.
Cool to see a follow up a while later. Good idea, even better video.
Loved it!! I can relate. 😎
Very much enjoyed listening to Adam. He really seems a super nice guy.
Maybe next spring when my shop upgrades are finally done it will be worthy of a Home Shop Tour with NYCCNC! Id definitely be a lot further behind without all the great information I got from this channel over the last 6 years. Adams shop is really awesome, both tours were super inspirational! Thanks for sharing!
18:16 same here, when I do landscaping in the summer it's so much calmer and nicer than when I have worked in the factory in winter
I hope we can get a year 2 update this year
0r maybe a year 3 update this year
Sometime i miss just having two machines.
This was a fantastic video. Very well done and loaded with thoughts and insight for the small guy. More of this!
"having tools stored in holders is the easiest form of automation..."well said this is one of the things that I started doing that has served me really really well over the years. It took over 22 years for me to really learn this lesson. I have tried to comunicate this to everyone envolved with the business and I cant agree with you more. I think that it is far better to store the tool length and catalog the tool rather than take if from the holder. would rather get a new tool and put it in a new holder than break one up now because its reverse work if you tear down a tool setup that has a known gauge length!
Really love our little mini mill, but he isn't kidding when he says the low range falls on its face. All we do is nuclear and aerospace so lots of inconel, hastelloy, and all those other devils. Boy does it take a long time, but don't downplay what those little machines can do!
Big congrats to Adam. My dream is to start my own home shop someday.
A lot of smaller taper, higher speed, lighter duty machines will fall into that same trap. Understanding of your machine’s torque curve and what you can and can’t do with it is very underrated. Neither one of those machines will run larger drills, but both can run high feed mills, which can rough pretty darn well. Is a high feed mill as efficient at holemaking as a drill? No, but work with what you’ve got.
I’v rewatched the superb tour a number of times and really like Adams style and knowledge. Good luck !
Thanks this is it I believe I’m going to try an start with the mini mill great video thanks guys. I’ve been in the trade since 87 an I’m ready to do this on my own
Nice work gents
The other night I was watching the first video for a refresher, now this. :D The timing.
Well done, thanks.
This guy is everything I aspire to be, and I have nothing but respect for him. He's actually living every machinist's dream, at least every machinist who didn't take this profession to fund their business degree. I actually looked into the cost for a new VF2 with rigid tapping and a probe preinstalled and the startup costs are certainly not cheap. I want to talk to this guy to see why he did it because it obviously worked very well. My one issue is, well... unsurprisingly, I think you were kinda drilling this guy too hard in the interview, almost pushing him to start a large business or go into real estate for the sole purpose of obtaining capital. I think it was easy to tell how insulting it was to him, this absolute legend who even around 30, is a wealth of machining knowledge. Look, what's said is said and what's done is done, but please reconsider your opinion on this guy. He may seem void of aspiration and maybe being a home machinist doesn't seem like much, but he has it made, and as a setup/prototype machinist (not an operator), I can tell you that this is what he enjoys doing. Why devalue someone for liking being a machinist? Some people just really hate the stress involved in running a business, let alone a large one.
Really enjoyed the conversation... Would also be a good conversation and guest on the business of machining podcast
I have worked in job shops 35+ years
Smaller shops have always been better I have worked for a small shop that grew over 40 years then came crashing down in the end
My opinion is stay small if it’s working for you....
Nobody but God knows the future..
2:36"
It can set angles directly to arc seconds: "Meh"
It has this thing that moves: "WOW LOOK AT THAT"
Great video, great home shop, great story. Thanks for sharing!
Great guy. I envy of calmness. Wish i could live like that. Keep it up!
Interesting chat. A lot of the concerns raised are just the same here in the UK. Planning for the future especially! Best of luck to you 🇬🇧
That was an excellent conversation, John! 👍
Thanks for the video.
What a great interview. I think you guys should get together again next year. - Mike
A Long video but a great video to watch and listen too.
Sometimes it's good to just listen to others talking ??
WHY ?
Because it's a great way to get your thoughts going.
do those type/size of machine require three phase power?
Awesome video! Enjoyed listening on my way back home from work!
What a informative and motivating interview.
Super video! Inspirational!
Wow !! I wish i had the balls to do what he did. Leave my job and take machining, design job and work for my self.
I expect your video today! I am machinist love from India!
Need more classes & Tour
Have a great Wednesday
Good idea to have machine shop near the house and to be self employed and no stress involved, but it is important to have financial security as well. No loans would be ideal in such situation.
Not sure your investment advice on commercial real estate is a great idea right now. I think this pandemic is going to change the way a lot of companies view physical locations and we are at the very start of this change. I get the feeling that in 4-5 years we are going to see another real estate crash but in the commercial sector of large and medium sized cities.
What type of cutting oil are you using?
Flood coolant is not a good thing to use if you are using carbide tooling with a heavy chip load. The thermal shock will eat through your tools quickly. The last job shop where I worked always did this.
I got a super mini mill at auction and fixed it up and Just finished my first customer job last week and have more work on the way. Hopefully soon I will be able to do this full time too.Thanks for another great video, a lot of what I know came from your how to videos. Great resource
Design Work is a more demanding job but it should pay more than machining. It also doesn't need the hardware necessary to earn a living. If space is an issue it could be a direction to grow your company without investing in high-end machinery = earn more money. A lot of people can machine to a high standard but only a few can really design... A no brainer if you you're happy with designing only...And that's of course the million dollar question. Looking forward on your thoughts. Best, Job
@CMTeamCobra Thank you for your answer. From my side it was a well ment suggestion to grow in an alternative way. We don't really know each other. I have only an idea who you are and you don't have a clue who's talking to you right now. But maybe if I elaborate a little more my comment maybe makes more sense. You're a trained specialist in mold and die work and that's a, as you mentioned, a rare specie. With your knowledge you could probably design molds and dies who work 95% the first time. That could be a well paid job. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly (I'm Dutch) but I'm a, and I dare to say it but not to brag, skilled engineer. I also meet a lot of engineers who finished college with a degree but that is fulfilling for them and a lot of mediocre companies where they they work at, but it's not the high standard that only a few perform and I think you're maybe one of them. Education is not necessary here also. If you learn along the way and stay interested in what you do and also interested to improve you get there also. Probably less paid but that's a weird driver for live anyhow. Keep up the good work! Best regards, Job
Would be good to have an update on how things are going
Why not build a winch frame that you can pull the truck under? Then you can hook the load up and pull the truck out from underneath and drop it down onto a trolley. A steel building the size of a 2 car garage costs 3-5k on Alibaba and is setup in a weekend. Then you have room for 2-3 more machines and material storage.
"It's always fun to look at other peoples'..... tools.". John realizes what he's about to say, but can't find any alternative... :D
Was he able to get work from past jobs? The challenge is to have work. The overhead for a shop and equipment is costly. Being able to have enough electrical power, grandfathered in or phase converters.
Second half of this video was brilliant.
You should do a sit down chat on all your factory tour videos (or split them into two for those who are only here for the machine-porn).
Muito bom parabéns 👏👏👏
Super likable dude! I wonder if the torque converter customer was LUK? I used to work there as a project engineer.
What does he mean re: metrology and the weights, when he says "measure stuff on the magnet" vs having to pull out the gauge? the magnet?
Looking at the thumbnail.
I thought it was an interview with Luciano Pavarotti., LOL.
He should be renting his garage to his own business. The rent is deductible to his business and the income is passive and taxed at the lowest rate . Its a good way to get money out of the business and save on taxes at the same time.
He could, or does. But compared to his main business is just something microscopical regarding money I would guess, but naturally one should use all options
It always makes me wonder when obviously very talented people quit their job to become influencers.
Obviously this is not what Adam is doing. He is more interesting than ever--it would seem--from his independence and doing things his own way. It's very much not the path of taking out big loans and taking on more risk and more clerical work. Great video.
I may have missed about the power supply to the shop. Is there 3 phase or a very large phase converter.
I had a Haas TM2 in my garage that ran fine on single phase, but in the near future I want to purchase a Haas VF3SS. I dont want to rent a building, I would like to put in my garage and a digital static phase convertor will be needed.
great video, very informative, how does he handle power supply there? 3 phase ran to garage or phase converter?
What coolant do you use?
I have same goal to start CNC machine shop in my 2 car garage. I am in this field from last 22 year now I like to do my own. Can I get some help.
Please make a Walter Maschinenbau GmbH factory tour. It would be amazing. And for Gods sake stop saying "Holly cow"😄😄
Dang 1 tour per 100 sq ft :-)
Adam, your biggest risk is your health, machinists don't move around much, being overweight is a significant health risk, you go down, the business goes down. You are correct regarding the age of your clients. demographics is destiny.
Great video guys! Adam thanks again for the info on the GT15 oil. I’ve been running it in my VF2YT since your last video on here and it’s been amazing. A little messy but well worth it.
Is there any house for sale nearAdam workshop? I want to buy house and machine like Adam's machine
🦜au - Been a while since i seen any new post
Great talk! I loved it as a small business owner. Considering you know a lot more small business owners maybe this could be e new series??? I could watch this for hours!
Oh man, I am looking for something similar to the lakeshore engraver in Europe and I have not found it yet. Import taxes are way to high to get it from your side...
Jabro J29 series; 60deg single flute engraving tools in 3, 4, & 6mm shank diameters.
@@Icutmetal Thank you very much. I think the company is now called SECO right? Looks like decent engraving endmill. I will have to see if I can get my hands on one.
Wim's Mill Correct; Jabro is a Seco brand, just as with Niagara Cutter, but Niagara doesn’t offer engravers.
Not fair to say Haas is not a very efficiant machine. He should say the Haas mini Mill isn't The thing is its designed for low HP small tools and unfortunitly has the rpm limit preventing it from handeling decent production run times. I am running a Haas VF2 with spindle speeders getting me 25,000 - 30, 000 rpm and my little tools are flying! If you wanted more material removal you should not buy such a small under powered machine. The benifit to these is simply work space. (machine footprint) not production.
Brother makes some excellent mini machining centers.
@@douro20 yes sir. And fast
Zach galifianakis is a machinist who knew🤷