The JF-17 Thunder Is Fun, Capable & Effective | War Thunder

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  • @MiGanFox3
    @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Was messing around trying to make the thumbnail pop a bit more, would love to hear some feedback

    • @Bad_Karma777
      @Bad_Karma777 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Dont worry, its nothing that wont get better over time, the videos already got some flavor, now we just need people to click on it, try making the thumbnail a bit clearer, changing the brightness/contrast might help!

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Bad_Karma777 Thanks for the tips mate, I know next to nothing about photoshop/image editing etc so I'm just making it up as I go haha
      Love your content by the way, I always send people your way if they want advice on a plane I don't really fly 👍

    • @mujipanda1947
      @mujipanda1947 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I like the boarder you've added, it makes it easier to identify thats its one of your videos. Personly I really like the thumbnail on the Typhoon fgr vid, its clear and bright.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@mujipanda1947 That's because it's an actual photograph taken at an airshow by a friend of mine, sadly can't do that for every thumbnail haha. I'll try messing around with stuff like the brightness/contrast as karma suggested

    • @toastoftriumph
      @toastoftriumph 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The green outline is honestly hard to see when it's a small thumbnail. You could certainly keep it but it needs something more to stand out. 1) You could make the outline thicker. 2) A transparent gradient behind the plane might look cool - make a rectangle the size of the thumbnail with 0% opacity on the left, maybe 25% opacity on the right. Leave the JF-17 on the very top layer so it's still visible.
      More than just small graphical changes though, I'd think about your channel branding. The guinea pig has a lot of potential but isn't in your thumbnails. This would give it some good personality. In my opinion your channel needs a "face" (or logo) that people will instantly recognize when sharing your video. I do love the guinea pig.
      Goddammit I only just got the pun on Megan Fox... shows how slow I am lol. Maybe there's a way to integrate that into the theme? (Is it possible to have a guinea pig that looks like Megan Fox?)

  • @Boomy2710x
    @Boomy2710x 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Love to see this channel growing so quick and gaining more viewership, on par with the quality of the videos being made - not many channels doing serious walkthroughs and step by steps like this.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you mate, glad you appreciate the content 👍

  • @Bad_Karma777
    @Bad_Karma777 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    As the top tier becomes decompressed over time, this will be one of the best vehicles to play with, or at least thats my bet

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was expecting to struggle a bit with the Rafales and EFs but honestly I found it surprisingly good to play

    • @Itsnotavailable_67
      @Itsnotavailable_67 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yoo didnt expect to see Bad karma here

    • @rotary16s
      @rotary16s 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Itsnotavailable_67The legend himself

    • @Thom83ooo
      @Thom83ooo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@MiGanFox3Is it easier than the F16C? Because in F16 I feel like I'm constantly getting a kill and then dying.
      Sometimes 2, but it is very rare. Whether it's high or low altitude, it's the same...

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Thom83ooo the 16C is perfectly capable, I obviously don't know how you're playing, but your issues are probably more around your positioning and defending rather than your airframe choice in this case

  • @FFSK734
    @FFSK734 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    You have become my favourite air rb creator. Greate Content, i learn a lot.

  • @toastoftriumph
    @toastoftriumph 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the modification breakdown at the start! Not sure I've seen many people break it down visually like that - helps so that you can pause and digest it for a sec.
    Something else I appreciate - your dogfighting isn't perfect - you make reasonable assumptions or small mistakes here and there, but keep it in the video. Talking through it and analyzing those mistakes is just as important as the pristine, perfect gameplay clips.
    Great quote at 12:54 - "Try and condition yourself to enjoy those moments in War Thunder where you flew well but didn't get any rewards, because if you're completely rewards-driven, then you're probably not going to enjoy the game as much and you'll probably burn out." Good advice in general. Things are more rewarding when you have that intrinsic motivation behind it.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you mate! Yeah the mod thing was an idea I had after learning the cursed order in which one of my friends was researching his mods haha
      And you are absolutely correct on my dogfighting, by far the weakest part of my game. Dogfights in top tier are rare so practice is also rare, I only recently started playing in TSS so I'm working on it going forward. For now though I try to avoid acting like I have some kind of authority on it, but if I have clips I like to break down what I think is going on. Fox-3 is really where 90% of my gameplay knowledge lies so that's obviously my main focus

    • @toastoftriumph
      @toastoftriumph 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MiGanFox3 Some TH-camrs' authority comes off as being a bit pretentious, I feel like you're more down to earth / humble, or just straight to the point.
      The Fox-3 analysis has been great. Never could consistently notch, multipath, all that until finding your vids this past week or two.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@toastoftriumph Glad to hear that!
      Yeah the 2 things I want to try and avoid is projecting any kind of arrogance, and I want to avoid being clickbaity as best I can

  • @malitwat2874
    @malitwat2874 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    12:57 amen. Im happy if i notched multiple missiles or if i didnt died in the first encounters. The thumbnail is good and def gets the attention. Maybe you should choose a thumbnail style that people connect you instantly. For the recognition.👌

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep I'm just trying to settle on how I want it to look, I like the text and the same green outline on the plane to make it pop a bit more. Just trying to settle on a border gradient. I'm also wondering if maybe I include the channel icon in one of the corners

  • @Frost_x_NB
    @Frost_x_NB 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bro this channel is severely underrated the explanations and knowledge is what really does it. Keep up the excellent work! 💯

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you mate!

  • @zvorrrrr
    @zvorrrrr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im not sure what it is about you, your cadance, how you explain information so effectively and swiftly when going over maneuvers and methods of attack and defense, but you are literally the only WT creator I wanna watch right now, you're just so enjoyable to listen to, its partially your accent too.
    Keep creating I absolutely love your content, favorite channel on YT for me right now. Get it! o7

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you mate, I'm just glad I seem to be differentiating my content enough from everything that's already out there 👍

  • @jaydenblain3599
    @jaydenblain3599 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really appreciate the matchmaker data at the beginning

  • @candyjp1
    @candyjp1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i just wanted to say your vids have helped me greatly at surviving more and getting more kills at top tier thanks, your vids are massively helpful

  • @ECBrazil
    @ECBrazil 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    05:29 Electronic Warfare going crazy back there xD

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sensor view is certainly an experience

  • @Indyscout
    @Indyscout 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wanted to say I love the content you’ve been putting out. I found you by chance while watching TH-cam on holiday and I’ve since binged all of your content.
    You do an excellent job of clearly articulating your decision making and I’ve been able to translate what I’ve learned into my own gameplay. My confidence in my defensive flying has improved considerably.
    Thank you for the work you’ve done, I am looking forward to any future content you put out. Here’s hoping that you get yourself a decal one day, you certainly deserve it.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for the kind words, glad I've been able to help you 👍

  • @volkerball6110
    @volkerball6110 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been having you pop into my feed lately. I’ve found I consistently watch and learn from your videos. Subbed keep up the awesome work!

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!

  • @cq4538r
    @cq4538r 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My man over here teaching me a masterclass in how to fly above 10.7, i thank you sir.
    Youve taught me more in 3 to 5 videos than ive learned playing the game myself.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad to hear the videos are working for their intended purpose!

    • @cq4538r
      @cq4538r 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MiGanFox3 what are the odds you can get me a dummy's course on the Mirage F1C-200 and MiG-23ML? I'm awful flying at top tier and those are my main grinders I think for France and USSR.
      My friend tried teaching me how to fly the 23ML, and literally talked me through an ace like my 5th match lol.
      Im loving the content. This is the type of stuff I could listen to for ***hours***

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cq4538r Try running the gun pods instead of the 530Fs on the F1C. MTI is a shadow of what it use to be and honestly I find the 530Fs with that radar are 1 chaffed every time. Gun pods will also make it easier to grind some ground targets if you get the chance. Try to give your magic 2s good launch parameters, if you use them properly they are 2 free kills right there. So be mindful of not firing them at too great a range (they're easier to flare, also they lose their energy from drag quite quickly, they accelerate super fast though). Be wary of wasting them in the head on as well, much easier to flare
      Beyond general stuff I can't offer you really in depth guidance like the videos for those planes, as you can probably tell I spend 90% of my time in fox-3 and that's what I excel at haha

    • @cq4538r
      @cq4538r 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MiGanFox3 hey that's more help than I have gotten lately lol. I'll give the gun pods a shot, usually my loadout is 2 Magic 2s, 2 530Fs, and drop tank. But I'm far more reliable at ground pounding, so maybe I'll take the rocket pods? I've been playing the A-10A a lot lately lol

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @cq4538r this is the video my friend watched that gave him the gunpod idea and he seems to be going well with it. Haven't gotten round to watching it myself but here you go: th-cam.com/video/cc4ZjO4Vk7U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=E_I9Pqz0lbKzoRO4

  • @Carlosdf14
    @Carlosdf14 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    12:40 man is speaking wisdom right here

  • @nemexx3357
    @nemexx3357 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoy watching your stuff, i am now mastering notching and i am really confident in flying high nowadays. thank you so much. the sensor view and explanations helped me so much. i hope you grow fast, more ppl need to see your stuff. Or maybe not, if everyone keeps getting better it will be a sweaty game 😀

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you didn't catch it Catwerfer's recent notching video is great for those detailed breakdowns in sensor view. Recommend you check it out if you didn't already 👍

  • @MondoChow777
    @MondoChow777 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pristine demonstration of the JF-17.

  • @ConnorSCoo
    @ConnorSCoo 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid, feeling a lot more competent thanks to your content! Keep it up ❤

  • @Farming-Technology
    @Farming-Technology 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    G suit before boosters for me.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      yeah I intended for the image for those 3 to be a kind of 'up to you'

  • @artillery9290
    @artillery9290 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A-1 video yet again brother! Nice thumbnail!

  • @Devildoginvu
    @Devildoginvu 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent piloting skills. I’ve learned a lot from this video.

  • @kilux85
    @kilux85 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have to say I love your breakdowns of engagements. Honestly I am a Ground RB enjoyer and Air RB is mostly for "grinding". For flying I (used to) enjoy the buggy mess that is DCS World ;) So notching etc. is nothing "new" to me but seeing it explained in the WT meta helped a lot. By the way, the Jeff is one of my favorite modules in DCS.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I want to try DCS one day, need a proper set up for that first though

  • @jetnavigator
    @jetnavigator 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very informative video. How reliable do you find notching to be? I have taken on the tactics you describe but often find it just doesn't work.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Unless you're caught out super close range, pretty reliable. If I get hit I can usually watch it back and have a look in sensor view and see I made a mistake (got my angle wrong, didn't change trajectory enough, didn't maintain the notch and the missile re-acquired me for example). Try to look for patterns in how you're dying and then you can better understand what you may have done wrong

    • @simula152
      @simula152 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MiGanFox3 This is great advice, had some really bad experiences against the 120Bs of the Eurofighter and simply figured out that my periodic chaffing led the missile right back to me...

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@simula152 A good tip from Catwerfer's recent notching video is to chaff in bursts
      Establish your notch, quick double tap of chaff, descend/climb. If missile doesn't appear to be leaving your RWR then repeat

  • @MrKeabzz
    @MrKeabzz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to see a rundown on your control set up

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's a community post from a few weeks ago 👍 th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXnCILC0TEuQSZVaoRwdFy9l4ZIQ07RmE?si=lvuAPISll3uT9KPd

    • @MrKeabzz
      @MrKeabzz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MiGanFox3 Legend ive had the sam setup for years and trying to find space for the new stuff they are adding is painful

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrKeabzz I use an mmo mouse which helps for key binding a lot

  • @nicos1097
    @nicos1097 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    another great vid as usual

  • @HighRiskV
    @HighRiskV 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have mine waiting for my willingness to stock grind it. Also curious if those laser guided rockets would be helpful for ground pounding to help with stock grinding, I never saw anything like that in other jets, only helicopters.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doing some air to ground to help get some RP is perfectly valid, I can't offer any advice on that though as I play pretty much everything purely air to air

  • @lucarelli25_68
    @lucarelli25_68 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Could you do a video on the updated Su-27?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      27SM possibly next yes 👍

  • @antonisashitteragain6993
    @antonisashitteragain6993 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The snake Rockets are cool in ground

  • @tomasl8013
    @tomasl8013 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi. i really like your videos, ive learnt a lot from them, do you think that maybe you can do a f20 video?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe in future, I don't actually own it at the moment

  • @simula152
    @simula152 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You like to play the japanese f86 alot, no? I see you constantly in my hunter!

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't know if like is the best word... more I want to grind the Japanese tree and I decided the premium f86 was my best option. It can be fun but I'm not a massive fan of low tier jets, I'm also not terribly good with them haha

    • @simula152
      @simula152 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah it's a tough world 😅​@MiGanFox3 moved on from that BR down there as well and talismanned the MiG-23MLA 🫡

  • @Frost_x_NB
    @Frost_x_NB 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This for a 13.3 is very fair should a standard tbh but something like the SU34 as a missile truck is crazy to be 13.3 as well. SU34 needs to be 13.7

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Compression as always is a bit of an issue, I'd find the Su-34 tough to play at 13.7 with the lack of HMD and relatively weak flight model

  • @LoudestHoward
    @LoudestHoward 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do you have a discord my dude? Somewhere less memey compared to other creators to talk about the game/tips/tactics etc?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not as of yet, potentially in my plans, I'll make a community post and mention it in videos if I start one

  • @S1su
    @S1su 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sh*t. I got that jet 2 days ago but forgot about it 😅 thx for reminding me about this jet

  • @twonky6909
    @twonky6909 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will you feature the regular F15 without Fox-3s?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not likely, I don't enjoy the high tier SARH aircraft because they're in a bad spot right now

  • @aimbot0x01
    @aimbot0x01 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:33 did you dog fighted that r-73?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I suppose that's one way of putting it haha

  • @Itsnotavailable_67
    @Itsnotavailable_67 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Guys I’ve grinder the f16aj and f15 line for Japan and completed them, I’ve just finished the grind for the Jas39c and I’ve almost gotten the kfir C10 event vehicle. Do I get the JF-17 for china to grind after I grind Isreal or do I play Sweden ground.

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Itsnotavailable_67 remember the JF-17 isn't a premium so even if you talisman it the research efficiency for lower tiers will make it very slow. J-7D is currently on sale and in a very good spot to grind china right now, just depends if you want to spend money or not which is your call

    • @Itsnotavailable_67
      @Itsnotavailable_67 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ there isn’t any sale on console for me rn and I’m planing on playing Isreal first- I’ve got 80k left for the event vehicle. Also could you possibly make a video sometime soon on the Jas39c for Sweden because my matches have been hit and miss so far

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Itsnotavailable_67 Ah fair enough, that's a shame. I did do a gripen video not super long ago, it was the british gripen with the darters though. I still play the swedish gripen the same way, you just have to allow for the amraams being worse off boresight close range
      Video if you didn't catch it: th-cam.com/video/6s8DVihHS9I/w-d-xo.html

    • @Itsnotavailable_67
      @Itsnotavailable_67 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MiGanFox3 yeah I watched it but I wasn’t sure if I should play it the same. What range should I be launching them (Rb99s) at to have the best chance to get a kill

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Itsnotavailable_67 so first up RB99 is an amraam copy paste. Given the gripen only has 4 I'd still be saving them for 20km or less if i can despite their excellent range. When you have less missiles you want to get value out of them, so that means fire closer, just have to be aware they do not pull in well super close range high off bore

  • @dinouchiha9788
    @dinouchiha9788 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how should i use the SD-10's? long range like aim 120's or a close range like mica's?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SD-10s are copy pastes of the PL-12. Kind of an all round missile, ok range and good pull off the rail. I'd be using them closer range though yes, just be aware there won't pull as well as a mica or R-77

  • @josephwuu
    @josephwuu 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    JF-17 or Su 33?

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Haven't flown the 33 yet

  • @marioluuvillaverde963
    @marioluuvillaverde963 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤Hi great videos you have a lot of knolech❤i will like to get some help from you ,I just got the su-33 and i a usa main and i will like to know how to fly properly the misilebus pelase help❤keep yo the good content😊

    • @MiGanFox3
      @MiGanFox3  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I might fly it soon, depends if I get the time. Some general advice for you:
      - You'll have to be a bit passive in the up tiers against all the top tier fox-3 platforms, don't go in first, try not to expose yourself etc and try to snipe people with the ERs
      - Down tiers you can play a bit more aggressively, just watch out for the Fakour-90s
      - The 2 ETs you can take are great for stealth attacks, you can also try firing an ET then an ER straight after to confuse people and give them 2 different threats to deal with

    • @marioluuvillaverde963
      @marioluuvillaverde963 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ so more or less its like su27 but whit better rwr , i notice that bleeds speed like the doritowings so i think maybe it need to be even more passive ,either way i will wait for your vídeo cause you explain things whit very good examples and its very easy too see how things plays out.
      Thanks for the replay❤️❤️❤️