as a new player and being british for the first week i only played brits but never realised how fun the other factions are, my favourite now is wermacht
17:23 - Yeah, I'd have to agree he did some things bad. From what I could see he didn't choose his engagements and kept throwing soldiers at hopeless positions. Panzer Grenadiers may be completely better than everyone's infantry, but forcing them to fight in indefensible positions negates a lot of that.
13:30 Just wanted to point out tbat Defensive veterancy doesn´t make the tank harder to penetrate. Defensive veterancy gives evasion bonuses, damage reduction bonuses, hp bonuses and speed bonuses. Also, you should really consider using more control groups. Seeing you trying to manually select that halftrack made Guderian sad :] Anyways, thanks for sharing your ideas on the PE.
Just wanted to point out that the tactics and strat in this vid are totally irrelevant vs any competent Brit player since the MEGA buffs to Brits and MEGA nerfs to PE in the final patch.
@@VRichardsn Mate they're all available online. Go and read them yourself. In brief, Brits were buffed MASSIVELY, to a point that they are way OP *in 1v1* whilst PE were nerfed into unplayable uber-FRAGILE oblivion, particularly vs Americans. Deliberately imbalanced in that patch no doubt coercion to move to COH2 their DLC PTW cash cow.
@@theblytonian3906 I have read them, that is why I am asking. The last patch that significantly changed the game nerfed the Brits. They are still a gimmicky faction that is boring to play against, but they are not way OP in any form in 1v1. Perhaps Staghounds if you let them get the ball rolling, but 5 Pio T2 shuts them down before they start.
@@VRichardsn I was talking PE with x3 man uber fragile PGs and Kets or Schwimms which can;t shoot back. Everything PE now is uber FRAGILE from the Inf HT to the SC. Wehr do fare better, but its still a struggle vs Brits Inf opening. 5 Pio? Maybe against Gumby. You do that 1v1 against anyone who can play and you're dead before you start. Brits open with a FAST 5 man squad with SNIPE. Push out a BGC and start hunting Pios with both. Shuts down their capping and resource gathering immediately, and costs them 240MP to replace 'cos they need Pios for other than capping. Push out a second Brit Inf squad pick it up in the BGC for super firepower, map coverage and mobility. Upgrade that second squad to SNIPE (cheap) ASAP too. 3rd squad, do the same, then Lieut. Hunt the Pios or anything. Volks can't withstand that firepower. 3 man HMGs just wither and DIE before that x3 snipe firepower even in cover. Out of cover, with x1 Lieut vet bonus already, don't even need snipe. That's slice 'n dice any x5 or even x10 Pio effort. BGCs chew Pios, and Rape Vet Pios. The patch specifically buffed the BGC to do just that. Anyone spots Pio rushing just rape them with a multiple BGC. Got a HT? NP. Upgraded Vickers BGC will tear them a new one. Bugged suppress Vet 3 Inf (PE or Wehr) forever and 5 shots from a Panther to kill Staghounds are just utter OTT BS. As for Uber-PIATS and the absurd duration of length of Bren buttoning! FFS!!! o.O Just sigh. 2 man Pios squads are too fragile and useless as a fighting unit even with 50 muni flame upgrade until at least Vet 2 unless attacking an undefended emplacement or HQ truck.
Random is pretty poorly constructed in COH1 - From what I can tell it just pseudo-randomly allocates you a team regardless of which factions are waiting in the queue.
I read somewhere that light vehicles actually do have front and reararmour so you should face the enemy with your cars and less shots will do full damage
The vanilla game gives you Americans and Wehrmacht. Opposing Fronts gives you Brits and PE. Tales of Valor gives you all 4. Buy Tales of Valor. The only reason to buy the vanilla and/or Opposing Fronts is for the extra single player campaigns.
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thank you man, I just won a gamer easy with this strategy
Sorry i didnt mention when i meant that, PG's should in early-game be fighting. In mod and late-game they should be either repping or fighting, thats why a 2nd ketten would be a good addition to this strat because scout-cars caps slower that kettens
Not at all. Part of this strategy is pinning your opponent in his base, so you need to capture territory. It's also good if you can force your opponent to constantly be in your territory when he attacks so that he moves slowly.
cmasupra, do you have a video which I could use to learn how to play with the British properly in multiplayer? I do know all the basics, but light vehicles like pumas tear me apart and also they bring tanks so fast, like you did with the Panzer 4 in the vid, I dont have a counter. Please help!
_and also they bring tanks so fast_ Starve them from Fuel. I know this is easier said than done, but try to plan your initial strategy around it if you feel uneasy facing vehicles. Pumas are 15+35+25+50+35+35 Fuel away from the start (asuming the Wehrmacht doesn´t skip emplacing the Krieg Barracks and the Wehrmacht Quarters) By comparison, the Stuart is 15+30+35+45. The Wehrmacht needs 195 Fuel (180 or 170 if they skip either the KB or the WQ), while the British need 125. That is your window of opportunity. If you have more questions, please do ask.
Hi, bit of a late response, only just found your videos :) As panzer, I have a really hard time attempting to counter his recon troop constantly sniping my units and even if I fight them off I lose to a Cromwell rush. Anything to recommend?
In the Headquarters. In case you mean the British ones, those are the Sappers. You need the Lieutenant, then you can deploy the Field Support Command Truck from the HQ Command Truck, and then you can deploy Sappers from the Field Support Command Truck.
Cap with the Kettenkrads and use the Panzer Grenadiers to aggressively fight the Riflemen. Always go out picking a fight in the early game, and leave the capping to the Kettenkrad if you can, because Panzer Grenadiers have a very slow capping speed (they take twice as much time to capture a point than a Riflemen squad) Go for a fast SdKfz 222 armored car. If you time it right, it can really throw a wrench in the US tempo, and it will massacre Riflemen. Also, consult this guide: www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/portals.php?show=page&name=company-of-heroes-panzer-elite-counters-vs-us That site is the primer source of info on Company of Heroes, and has _a ton_ of material.
Because you should never be floating so many resources that you can buy multiple units at once. You should always be buying something with your resources unless you're waiting on something. If you do end up floating a lot of resources, it's still best not to buy multiple units from the same building unless you really need them because then the queued unit's resources are doing nothing for you except sitting, waiting on another unit to finish building first.
The number 1 on the right? It's a Control Group. Hold down Ctrl and press a number on the number row above the letter keys to create a group. Then just press the number whenever you want to select the unit/units in the group.
I appreciate the presentation, especially how you begin with a high-level summary of the strat.
as a new player and being british for the first week i only played brits but never realised how fun the other factions are, my favourite now is wermacht
@james_wilton223 It's nice to see that there are still people playing the game
17:23 - Yeah, I'd have to agree he did some things bad. From what I could see he didn't choose his engagements and kept throwing soldiers at hopeless positions. Panzer Grenadiers may be completely better than everyone's infantry, but forcing them to fight in indefensible positions negates a lot of that.
Panzer 4 where so powerful. Often underdog
13:30 Just wanted to point out tbat Defensive veterancy doesn´t make the tank harder to penetrate. Defensive veterancy gives evasion bonuses, damage reduction bonuses, hp bonuses and speed bonuses.
Also, you should really consider using more control groups. Seeing you trying to manually select that halftrack made Guderian sad :]
Anyways, thanks for sharing your ideas on the PE.
Just wanted to point out that the tactics and strat in this vid are totally irrelevant vs any competent Brit player since the MEGA buffs to Brits and MEGA nerfs to PE in the final patch.
@@theblytonian3906 Which patch changes, specifically?
@@VRichardsn Mate they're all available online. Go and read them yourself. In brief, Brits were buffed MASSIVELY, to a point that they are way OP *in 1v1* whilst PE were nerfed into unplayable uber-FRAGILE oblivion, particularly vs Americans. Deliberately imbalanced in that patch no doubt coercion to move to COH2 their DLC PTW cash cow.
@@theblytonian3906 I have read them, that is why I am asking. The last patch that significantly changed the game nerfed the Brits. They are still a gimmicky faction that is boring to play against, but they are not way OP in any form in 1v1. Perhaps Staghounds if you let them get the ball rolling, but 5 Pio T2 shuts them down before they start.
@@VRichardsn I was talking PE with x3 man uber fragile PGs and Kets or Schwimms which can;t shoot back. Everything PE now is uber FRAGILE from the Inf HT to the SC. Wehr do fare better, but its still a struggle vs Brits Inf opening. 5 Pio? Maybe against Gumby. You do that 1v1 against anyone who can play and you're dead before you start. Brits open with a FAST 5 man squad with SNIPE. Push out a BGC and start hunting Pios with both. Shuts down their capping and resource gathering immediately, and costs them 240MP to replace 'cos they need Pios for other than capping. Push out a second Brit Inf squad pick it up in the BGC for super firepower, map coverage and mobility. Upgrade that second squad to SNIPE (cheap) ASAP too. 3rd squad, do the same, then Lieut. Hunt the Pios or anything. Volks can't withstand that firepower. 3 man HMGs just wither and DIE before that x3 snipe firepower even in cover. Out of cover, with x1 Lieut vet bonus already, don't even need snipe. That's slice 'n dice any x5 or even x10 Pio effort. BGCs chew Pios, and Rape Vet Pios. The patch specifically buffed the BGC to do just that. Anyone spots Pio rushing just rape them with a multiple BGC. Got a HT? NP. Upgraded Vickers BGC will tear them a new one. Bugged suppress Vet 3 Inf (PE or Wehr) forever and 5 shots from a Panther to kill Staghounds are just utter OTT BS. As for Uber-PIATS and the absurd duration of length of Bren buttoning! FFS!!! o.O Just sigh. 2 man Pios squads are too fragile and useless as a fighting unit even with 50 muni flame upgrade until at least Vet 2 unless attacking an undefended emplacement or HQ truck.
Meanwhile my strategy against the brits
Panzer Grenadier: Armored cars?
Me: Armored cars
Random is pretty poorly constructed in COH1 - From what I can tell it just pseudo-randomly allocates you a team regardless of which factions are waiting in the queue.
okay. Thank you for the information.
I read somewhere that light vehicles actually do have front and reararmour so you should face the enemy with your cars and less shots will do full damage
By the time I get my panzer 4 my opponent already has a Cromwell, and in the early game his upgraded bren carrier is to op. What do I do?
The vanilla game gives you Americans and Wehrmacht. Opposing Fronts gives you Brits and PE. Tales of Valor gives you all 4. Buy Tales of Valor. The only reason to buy the vanilla and/or Opposing Fronts is for the extra single player campaigns.
thank you man, I just won a gamer easy with this strategy
How do i make goliaths
i just beat a guy with the first germans u play as versus the brits. i won with a tiger 4 stugs and 1 panther
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What's bad about queuing up units?
Sorry i didnt mention when i meant that, PG's should in early-game be fighting. In mod and late-game they should be either repping or fighting, thats why a 2nd ketten would be a good addition to this strat because scout-cars caps slower that kettens
How would you have prevented a defense if it was so he went with an at-bunker?
and sorry for the bad english... I'm a dyslexic swedish guy... :(
Would you recommend using the logistiks upgrade on the scout cars early and relying on the kettenkrads to cap instead?
Not at all. Part of this strategy is pinning your opponent in his base, so you need to capture territory. It's also good if you can force your opponent to constantly be in your territory when he attacks so that he moves slowly.
Haaa. Lol, I invented that strategy, like 6 years ago. Im not even kidding.
The Bren MG upgrade can rip apart scouts IIRC (at the cost of troop trasport)
an addition to your tactic would be to get another ketten and STOP CAPPING WITH PG's x(
how do you make the car go in order for capturing?
cmasupra, do you have a video which I could use to learn how to play with the British properly in multiplayer? I do know all the basics, but light vehicles like pumas tear me apart and also they bring tanks so fast, like you did with the Panzer 4 in the vid, I dont have a counter. Please help!
I have a video called My British Strategy that explains how I play the British. Here it is: Company of Heroes: My British Strategy
thanks
_and also they bring tanks so fast_
Starve them from Fuel. I know this is easier said than done, but try to plan your initial strategy around it if you feel uneasy facing vehicles. Pumas are 15+35+25+50+35+35 Fuel away from the start (asuming the Wehrmacht doesn´t skip emplacing the Krieg Barracks and the Wehrmacht Quarters) By comparison, the Stuart is 15+30+35+45. The Wehrmacht needs 195 Fuel (180 or 170 if they skip either the KB or the WQ), while the British need 125. That is your window of opportunity.
If you have more questions, please do ask.
Nice game I might try this out
Hi, bit of a late response, only just found your videos :)
As panzer, I have a really hard time attempting to counter his recon troop constantly sniping my units and even if I fight them off I lose to a Cromwell rush. Anything to recommend?
can anyone tell me how to produce engineers in skirmish mode
In the Headquarters. In case you mean the British ones, those are the Sappers. You need the Lieutenant, then you can deploy the Field Support Command Truck from the HQ Command Truck, and then you can deploy Sappers from the Field Support Command Truck.
I'll try that, thanks.
How would this strat beat a fast bren BTW?
I really enjoy playing with germans especially panzer elite, but i cannot win against US. What are your recommendations?
Cap with the Kettenkrads and use the Panzer Grenadiers to aggressively fight the Riflemen. Always go out picking a fight in the early game, and leave the capping to the Kettenkrad if you can, because Panzer Grenadiers have a very slow capping speed (they take twice as much time to capture a point than a Riflemen squad)
Go for a fast SdKfz 222 armored car. If you time it right, it can really throw a wrench in the US tempo, and it will massacre Riflemen.
Also, consult this guide: www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/portals.php?show=page&name=company-of-heroes-panzer-elite-counters-vs-us
That site is the primer source of info on Company of Heroes, and has _a ton_ of material.
this a nice intro
Better, the PG's could be killing and gaining veterancy
at 14:00 you hve 2 PG's capping that could be repping... but i like this tactic... its not good for Semois though
British is 100% broken in this game
ok thanks for the tips
How can you use your Panzer elite ? i can select U.S and British only on my selections
you gotta be in the axis
Tekkit Bro's
Oh ok let me try it thank you :)
no prob
No no no, youre gettng it soooo wrong, SC's can be upgraded to a mobile OP which is great :D
so good thanks
and you didnt loose one T-HT... you lost 3...
As an RTS noob I gotta ask: why is queuing units bad?
Because you should never be floating so many resources that you can buy multiple units at once. You should always be buying something with your resources unless you're waiting on something. If you do end up floating a lot of resources, it's still best not to buy multiple units from the same building unless you really need them because then the queued unit's resources are doing nothing for you except sitting, waiting on another unit to finish building first.
I see. I'll try and make that a habit then.
0:33 how to make this on the right ?
The number 1 on the right? It's a Control Group. Hold down Ctrl and press a number on the number row above the letter keys to create a group. Then just press the number whenever you want to select the unit/units in the group.
Thanks =)
+cmasupra You still make videos?
all i can say...is ..that you'rebadatthisgame
he call's the Kettenkrad "Kitty", what do you expect? ^^