Hearing about the vandalism just ticks me off to no end!! Show some respect people! I'm glad to hear that the corrosion issues are being dealt with. Thank you for all you all do to keep Kidd going and thanks for another update video.
So nice to see up close the differences between the tin can and the battleship New Jersey in drydock. Also, 165 feet, thats cute (I'm sorry I had to get one in)
I hate to say it but my first view of a Fletcher class tincan was in Cartagena, Spain where their navy had one of theirs out of the water in a floating drydock for hull work. In 1985 this was still a commissioned ship and the view one of my shipmates, a Gunner's Mate (5 inch) was of the port side. She still had all 5 of the 5"/38 mounts vs our 2 5"/54 and looked beautiful. My shipmate told me that even though our Mk45 5"/54s could reach a couple miles further, if for some reason we (a Spruance class) got into a gunfight with her, the Fletcher would tear us apart. We had the advantage if we could avoid a close range "knife fight" because of our Harpoon missiles. That Fletcher and my Spru-can are both gone now. I don't know what happened to the Spanish ship, I don't even know which one she was. My old ship is at the bottom of the Caribbean in about 1000 fathom of water. The deliberate vandalism of Kidd pisses me off, but even caught red-handed the vandals probably would have gotten away with a simple "slap on the wrist."
@@robertf3479: Spain received the CAPPS, CONVERSE, DAVID W. TAYLOR, JARVIS, and McGOWAN. All of them are gone now. Interestingly, the crew of 661's little sister, USS KIDD (DDG-993), told us the same thing in 1997 when they visited while in New Orleans for Mardi Gras: should the two KIDDs fight, 993 would win at distance but 661 would dominate close-in.
There are five Fletchers it could have been, though I think it would be unlikely to be Lepanto D21 as she was decommissioned in 1985. Unfortunately the records of which one was in drydock in 1985 aren’t available it seems.
@lunarweasel : Editor/Director Molly was a BEAST!!! Multiple takes from multiple angles. Climbed the drydock walls for shots. She's the Tom Cruise of museum ship videos! 😲💪😃
I work for one of the few company's still left in the US that builds this size of propeller left They get called Wheels because the company who produces the highest volume of new propellers is called Michigan Wheel Corporation. I work for Sound Propeller Inc.
I served on the USS Kitty Hawk. She drew 47 feet of Water, displaced 77,500 Tons of water and was 1069 feet long. A person could get lost on her when first going aboard.
@@kevinburk7861 Main port of Slovenia is luka Koper and if I'm not mistaken, aircraft carrier cannot sail here because it's just too big and sea is too shallow 😆 We even have fun saying that our sea coast of 46 km(28 miles) is soo small that you can't even turn the boat around 😂 Absolutely fascinating piece of human ingenuity. I wish some day I see these ships in person. It's a long voyage there and to expensive to afford it. Maybe some day... P.s.: Biggest ship I ever been on was a 15 minut ride on a car ferry in Croatia.
Only 4 of the 175 Fletcher class destroyers built still exist. Three are in the USA and one is in Greece. Only the Kidd remains in her original WWII configuration.
What's amazing to me is the fact that Fletcher's only have a single rudder. As fast and maneuverable as they were, dual rudders, one behind each screw would have made them even more so and more effective in their ASW modes. I served on a Gearing and at 27knts our turning radius was so tight that we could catch/cross our own wake from our previous course with the wheel hard over. I know the later DD's, Allen M Sumners & Gearings were fitted with them and could turn a lot tighter.
@skipperclinton1087 : The last four Fletchers were fitted with dual rudders. And all Fletchers that came back into service for the Korean War immediately received an enlarged rudder, which is what you see on KIDD.
Very good video, I just lapped up the detailed dimensions of the propellers that are hard to find even in books like Dr. Friedman's "Illustrated Design History." Viewers might like to know the motivation for the shafts being different lengths -- one engine room was forward of the aft boiler room and the other engine room aft of it. The reason is to prevent a single torpedo hit from destroying both engines or all the boilers, leaving the ship dead in the water. Destroyers built earlier had all the boilers together forward of the engines. This layout was more compact but was said to have contributed to the loss of the Reuben James early in WW II. The examples of vandalism were a sad commentary on today's culture. I don't claim I understand the psychology of it but when visiting one of the battleships I saw that one of the gauges in the engine room had its glass deliberately shattered. This was a long time ago so it's not a new behavior.
Do the prop shafts exit the hull at different places port and starboard? At about 0:13 seconds in, it appears that the port shaft exits the hull further aft and thus further up on the up-sloping hull plating than the starboard shaft. Is this true?? If so, then why???
@arniestuboud : Further aft? Not sure. We'll have to get back to you on that. Further UP (higher)? Yes. By a few inches, so we understand from one of Tim's stories about the World of Warships team's first visit back in 2013. For an exact measurement and explanation of why, we'll have to get with him on Monday for the answers. So, please stand by and thanks for your patience. 😃 And GOOD eye!!!
So, we don't have an answer for you yet, but stay tuned because Tim will be collaborating with volunteer Ed Zajkowski in the coming weeks/months on an in-depth video making a DEEP DIVE into the specs on the reduction gear and shafts, ... "from the gear box to the fairing cap." If you know Ed, you know it'll be detailed. 😃😁
Single solid piece? Holy cap how long did that take to make? Weren’t these ships being pumped out in 3 months or something? Also thank you guys, propellers are my favorite part of any ship.
I mean, the S.S. United States or the Big U is going to be sunk. We can’t have anything nice now. I feel like the U.S has gone from providing the human rights to Americans to just money
last i saw these was in the north atlantic off Ireland .Unreal to see them making tin knots out of the water . So glad i was on a CVS , much better ride !
Almost had me for a moment with the name Kidd. The next generation Kidd, ex DDG993, is twin ruddered, two 5 bladed reversible propellers and powered by four LM2500 gas turbines. Taiwan is currently sailing the entire class.
Hopefully these vandals were watching this video and feel remorse but I highly doubt it. Vandalism & litterers just aggravates me to no end. Show some respect so our future generations can enjoy these pieces of our history..
The propellers push her through the water, and the force of the water flow against the rudder pushes the stern of the ship in one direction or the other, allowing steering to take place.
I didn't realize how bad of a shape she's in. I hope that you can get her back to its former glory . Hull wise. I know these ships are nothing like battleships but it did play a important role in combat and etc.
@justdeaf: DD's, the workhorses of the fleet. The WWII DD's didn't get the glamor or press of the big ships (love boats) but did all the work. A dirty or dangerous job? Call in a tin can. It will perform and execute it perfectly. That's what sets a tin can sailor apart from "love boat sailors".
@chrislaf89 : From what we understand, there are no more PRIVATELY owned drydocks on the West Coast that can handle something the size of IOWA or MIDWAY. And the military drydocks are fully booked handling the active duty fleet.
@@usskidd661 Oof. It'd be nice if they could drydock her. She's needing it, just like the other ships. Would be nice if the Navy would lend a hand out to help out the museum ships some, since they help educate and get people interested in possibly joining. Some of my friends I met while active duty were inspired to join after a museum ship visit, I myself caught a couple tiger cruises and found a love for it then.
The manufacturer decides what to name the alloy, usually based on it's intended use. There are subjective definitions of what constituents bronze or brass, but there is no universally agreed upon distinction. Both are alloys made with copper.
I know on one of the Facebook groups a guy was talking about how he had photos of him and the kids standing on the props. When I pointed out that is generally a bad thing to do, he insisted that there was no way that they could have damaged the ship. Seems like there’s this idea people have a that warships are invincible to the powers of man lol
@sirboomsalot4902 : Yes, agreed. 💯 One of our safety videos actually points out that museum ships are ARTIFACTS. Just because you're walking through the inside of it doesn't mean you can't hurt it. th-cam.com/video/jdDx0B9w9iE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=063N7doeZ-3qho12 In the instance you're discussing, that was one of our field day volunteers. His kids were monitored, and they were simply sitting on the fairing cap for a photo, not climbing. The whole family was there for the weekend, helping to take care of the ship. They were neither causing any damage nor malicious in any way.
@lunarweasel : Keep in mind that NEW JERSEY sits in brackish water at times of salt water intrusion up the Delaware River. KIDD does not see that as we are 230 miles up the Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico, and the downward current of the Mississippi is much greater than that of the Delaware. Also, KIDD is dry part of the year while in her cradle. The galvanic corrosion occurs only when the metals are connected via the medium of the surrounding water. Painting the bronze and then having the coating damaged by vandalism during the dry period also leaves just the exposed area vulnerable to oxydization, causing uneven wear to the propeller.
If life were perfect people would just start breaking things until something interesting happened. It is just how we are wired. That is not to say destructive impulses shouldn't be regulated, but you'll never eliminate them completely.
@nomore9203 : Thanks for the compliment! Check out our catelogue of videos. You'll probably find others you'll like. As for being "more like the NEW JERSEY," .... In Baton Rouge, everyone says, "Be more like LASM." In greater Louisiana, everyone says, "Be more like the National WWII Museum." In the museum ship community, everyone echoes your statement. But we're going to be what we've been for over four decades: USS KIDD (DD-661), the Pirate of the Pacific. 🇺🇲🏴☠️ Every museum has its mission and SHOULD be different and true to THAT mission. TEXAS, COD, SLATER, BAMA, Buffalo, KIDD, NJ, etc. We all have our own distinct styles, lessons, and stories to teach. And you, the viewers, benefit from that variety. So, enjoy! 😃
@@usskidd661 keep in mind, that here on the web are many guests from all over the world, that are not able to just do a quick visit. I'm from Germany and i love your content, and i would appreciate to see even more videos. Its 20 years ago i was on USS Kidd as a teenager.
@d3bugg3r : Oh, we'll be making videos. No worries about that. But we won't be churning out videos on a daily basis like Battleship NEW JERSEY, which is what it seems @nomore9203 was advocating. We appreciate our viewers--particularly those from overseas who can't visit in person often. But we're not trying to be like other museum ships. We have our own mission and our own identity and style. That's all we're saying. 🙂 Danke fürs zuschauen!
@@usskidd661 that‘s cool. I‘m gonna Share your Channel within our veterans Community. All of em have been sailing on Fletcher class destroyers back in the days when germany had six of those given to us by the US Navy. Last one was decomissioned in the early 80s.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to set up some kind of surveillance or barricade to deter people from doing stupid things like damaging the ship. Its a shame that kind of thing is needed.
@michaelbrowne8068 : All depends on the support she receives from the community. CONSTITUTION, CONSTELLATION, OLYMPIA, TEXAS, VICTORY, WARRIOR, and AURORA are each in excess of 100 years old. If the money and the commitment are there and unwavering, anything is possible. WE aim to preserve and maintain her in a forward-thinking manner that allows her to survive beyond OUR lifetimes. 🙂
Video's are getting better. Camera on the ship and moving around for a better look. Don't need the goofy video cut in's. Makes me want to move on. Sorry about the vandals, it happens everywhere.
@@usskidd661 When I read the title thought your ship was the missile ship USS Kidd with the Spruance hull. When saw the one rudder...what? I moved ahead in the video and saw the 5" guns and went...that USS Kidd.
@@louisdemarco7417: From an educational handout issued during World War II at a Naval Reserve Officer Indoctrination School: "Prop" - Propeller. www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/t/terminology-and-nomenclature.html
If you were to say prop in the navy, you would be laughed at. We don’t use that term and it’s not a nickname. Stop trying to emphasize something you don’t know what you’re talking about. I served on two frigates and a destroyer.
@louisdemarco7417 : Nickname is perhaps an incorrect term. How about "common name" vs "proper name"? "Screws" may be the common usage out in the fleet, but the U.S. Navy at an organizational level and in educational materials uses the term propeller. (See link: www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Department-Links/Naval-Foundry-and-Propeller-Center/) We're educating people who might know nothing about the Navy. Therefore, we used the proper name used by the Navy in their materials, and we mentioned the common names that others sometimes use (like fairing cap & dunce cap). Anyone not previously familiar can now recognize what's being discussed no matter what name is used. There's no need to get angry about it. If it offends you, scroll onward.
@normangiven6436 : Zinc, not aluminum. We're replacing the zincs with aluminum. The props haven't turned since 1964 and were never intended to turn again per our contract with the Navy.
@@jameshammer-uw8iq: It all depends on how each respective museum chooses to display their ship. KIDD's hull below the waterline is visible part of the year at home in Baton Rouge when the Mississippi River is at its lowest levels, allowing the public to see equipment not normally visible for museum ships in coastal areas. Thus, we retain her props, shafts, rudder, and sonar dome for now.
How much in scrap metal are those anodes worth? Because, I don’t think, a kid, would go through the hassle of stealing one… But, a jonesing addict will.
Overall a good video but please stop with this and that special tool nonsense. I say this because pretty much all the finish work done on the Kidds Props after they were cast was done with grinders, sanders, and buffers along with various measuring tools such as angle finder, levels, rulers, protractors, straight edges, etc along with the blood and sweat of skilled craftsmen and women. Personally I find the finish work to propellers far less interesting than the construction of the patterns and molding of the casting sand that the molten bronze is poured into to create the propellers themselves
Hearing about the vandalism just ticks me off to no end!! Show some respect people! I'm glad to hear that the corrosion issues are being dealt with. Thank you for all you all do to keep Kidd going and thanks for another update video.
I am a honored member of this boat and glad to see this thank you for showing us this process I had to call members to get info on where he went ❤
So nice to see up close the differences between the tin can and the battleship New Jersey in drydock. Also, 165 feet, thats cute (I'm sorry I had to get one in)
Much better video than usual from the Kidd. Thank You
@@wfoj2: Thanks, ... we think...?
I hate to say it but my first view of a Fletcher class tincan was in Cartagena, Spain where their navy had one of theirs out of the water in a floating drydock for hull work. In 1985 this was still a commissioned ship and the view one of my shipmates, a Gunner's Mate (5 inch) was of the port side. She still had all 5 of the 5"/38 mounts vs our 2 5"/54 and looked beautiful.
My shipmate told me that even though our Mk45 5"/54s could reach a couple miles further, if for some reason we (a Spruance class) got into a gunfight with her, the Fletcher would tear us apart. We had the advantage if we could avoid a close range "knife fight" because of our Harpoon missiles.
That Fletcher and my Spru-can are both gone now. I don't know what happened to the Spanish ship, I don't even know which one she was. My old ship is at the bottom of the Caribbean in about 1000 fathom of water.
The deliberate vandalism of Kidd pisses me off, but even caught red-handed the vandals probably would have gotten away with a simple "slap on the wrist."
@@robertf3479: Spain received the CAPPS, CONVERSE, DAVID W. TAYLOR, JARVIS, and McGOWAN. All of them are gone now. Interestingly, the crew of 661's little sister, USS KIDD (DDG-993), told us the same thing in 1997 when they visited while in New Orleans for Mardi Gras: should the two KIDDs fight, 993 would win at distance but 661 would dominate close-in.
There are five Fletchers it could have been, though I think it would be unlikely to be Lepanto D21 as she was decommissioned in 1985. Unfortunately the records of which one was in drydock in 1985 aren’t available it seems.
@@usskidd661To be fair though, I’d be quite surprised if 661 managed to get in gun range
@sirboomsalot4902 : True. Today's fighting is designed to be at-distance.
GREAT video. Im sure it took a ton of time to edit. Cheers to the video editor!
@lunarweasel : Editor/Director Molly was a BEAST!!! Multiple takes from multiple angles. Climbed the drydock walls for shots. She's the Tom Cruise of museum ship videos! 😲💪😃
@@usskidd661 I definitely guessed a lot of dry dock stairs were climbed with the side shots for the propeller shaft length shots!
I work for one of the few company's still left in the US that builds this size of propeller left They get called Wheels because the company who produces the highest volume of new propellers is called Michigan Wheel Corporation. I work for Sound Propeller Inc.
I cannot comprehend how big this ship is. And destroyers in general are ''smaller'' vessels. I'm flabbergasted. Great video!
Greetings from Slovenia👋
@@jabadabadu7089: Zdravo! 😃👋
I served on the USS Kitty Hawk. She drew 47 feet of Water, displaced 77,500 Tons of water and was 1069 feet long. A person could get lost on her when first going aboard.
@@kevinburk7861 Main port of Slovenia is luka Koper and if I'm not mistaken, aircraft carrier cannot sail here because it's just too big and sea is too shallow 😆
We even have fun saying that our sea coast of 46 km(28 miles) is soo small that you can't even turn the boat around 😂
Absolutely fascinating piece of human ingenuity. I wish some day I see these ships in person. It's a long voyage there and to expensive to afford it. Maybe some day...
P.s.: Biggest ship I ever been on was a 15 minut ride on a car ferry in Croatia.
Only 4 of the 175 Fletcher class destroyers built still exist. Three are in the USA and one is in Greece. Only the Kidd remains in her original WWII configuration.
Always enjoy the Videos
What's amazing to me is the fact that Fletcher's only have a single rudder. As fast and maneuverable as they were, dual rudders, one behind each screw would have made them even more so and more effective in their ASW modes.
I served on a Gearing and at 27knts our turning radius was so tight that we could catch/cross our own wake from our previous course with the wheel hard over.
I know the later DD's, Allen M Sumners & Gearings were fitted with them and could turn a lot tighter.
@skipperclinton1087 : The last four Fletchers were fitted with dual rudders. And all Fletchers that came back into service for the Korean War immediately received an enlarged rudder, which is what you see on KIDD.
Very good video, I just lapped up the detailed dimensions of the propellers that are hard to find even in books like Dr. Friedman's "Illustrated Design History." Viewers might like to know the motivation for the shafts being different lengths -- one engine room was forward of the aft boiler room and the other engine room aft of it. The reason is to prevent a single torpedo hit from destroying both engines or all the boilers, leaving the ship dead in the water. Destroyers built earlier had all the boilers together forward of the engines. This layout was more compact but was said to have contributed to the loss of the Reuben James early in WW II.
The examples of vandalism were a sad commentary on today's culture. I don't claim I understand the psychology of it but when visiting one of the battleships I saw that one of the gauges in the engine room had its glass deliberately shattered. This was a long time ago so it's not a new behavior.
Nice to see it - though I'm surprised how small the rudder is.
@@horrgakx: facebook.com/share/p/9sRyZTNVMZXCsMYi/?mibextid=oFDknk
Thanks for the stern talking to.
@@cambo1200: 😄😆😂🤣 Don't make us come back there! .....
I could be wrong, but I think the Kidd might be a tad smaller than the New Jersey…. lol I’m sorry. Great video and amazing ship!
Do the prop shafts exit the hull at different places port and starboard? At about 0:13 seconds in, it appears that the port shaft exits the hull further aft and thus further up on the up-sloping hull plating than the starboard shaft.
Is this true?? If so, then why???
@arniestuboud : Further aft? Not sure. We'll have to get back to you on that. Further UP (higher)? Yes. By a few inches, so we understand from one of Tim's stories about the World of Warships team's first visit back in 2013. For an exact measurement and explanation of why, we'll have to get with him on Monday for the answers. So, please stand by and thanks for your patience. 😃 And GOOD eye!!!
So, we don't have an answer for you yet, but stay tuned because Tim will be collaborating with volunteer Ed Zajkowski in the coming weeks/months on an in-depth video making a DEEP DIVE into the specs on the reduction gear and shafts, ... "from the gear box to the fairing cap." If you know Ed, you know it'll be detailed. 😃😁
Single solid piece? Holy cap how long did that take to make? Weren’t these ships being pumped out in 3 months or something? Also thank you guys, propellers are my favorite part of any ship.
@dan1elhalas : The production capabilities of the U.S. during that time period and the will and effort behind them are truly mind-boggling.
Vandalizing a historic WW2 destroyer. Why we can't we have nice things anymore???
I mean, the S.S. United States or the Big U is going to be sunk. We can’t have anything nice now. I feel like the U.S has gone from providing the human rights to Americans to just money
@BrianMoore: That’s because we no longer have generations of nice people anymore! Zero punishment, Zero responsibility/accountability!
@@skipperclinton1087People across all generations vandalized things, and people across all generations respect things.
The USS Texas had to close off sections due to vandalism...in the 1950's and 60's.
Tell me, which generation was that?@@skipperclinton1087
Great video guy's!
@@frankbodenschatz173: Thanks!
H[w much longer will she be in dry dock? I'd love to visit when you're there for a tour.
@@frankbodenschatz173: Drydock tours are under discussion only. There's no guarantee that we'll be able to do them.
last i saw these was in the north atlantic off Ireland .Unreal to see them making tin knots out of the water . So glad i was on a CVS , much better ride !
I was curious if the longer prop shaft requires more power to turn and if the gearing is any different on that side vs. the other?
no they are the same HP , one turns left the other right
Just more mass to rotate due to the increased length. Engine needs to do a bit more work to get it moving, but otherwise the same.
@@chrislaf89 Yes, that's why I was wondering about the gearing. I didn't know for sure if the designers tried (needed) to balance it out.
More more more. Love it.
You left out the Firerooms! No steam, no turns. Like I told the Skipper, BT’s make the pointy end move through the water.
@@pitsnipe5559: Different video in the coming months. Patience. 🙂
Almost had me for a moment with the name Kidd. The next generation Kidd, ex DDG993, is twin ruddered, two 5 bladed reversible propellers and powered by four LM2500 gas turbines. Taiwan is currently sailing the entire class.
@@danialteasle7699: Our middle little sister. 🙂 #family
Hopefully these vandals were watching this video and feel remorse but I highly doubt it. Vandalism & litterers just aggravates me to no end. Show some respect so our future generations can enjoy these pieces of our history..
There is 2 prop and one redder how it works?
The propellers push her through the water, and the force of the water flow against the rudder pushes the stern of the ship in one direction or the other, allowing steering to take place.
I didn't realize how bad of a shape she's in. I hope that you can get her back to its former glory . Hull wise. I know these ships are nothing like battleships but it did play a important role in combat and etc.
@justdeaf: DD's, the workhorses of the fleet. The WWII DD's didn't get the glamor or press of the big ships (love boats) but did all the work. A dirty or dangerous job? Call in a tin can. It will perform and execute it perfectly. That's what sets a tin can sailor apart from "love boat sailors".
Unfortunately, there are some people in this world who are just plain assholes!
Restore the engines and sail it around like LST 325. Would be great for folks that can't always travel to these gems.
First Uss Texas in drydock then Uss New Jersey now Uss Kidd I wonder what ship will be next in drydock for these museum ships.
@davmar-du5ez : COBIA in 2025. Potentially THE SULLIVANS and CROAKER after that.
@@usskidd661 Thanks for the information.
I wish Iowa would go in. I think they just chose to not go into drydock.
@chrislaf89 : From what we understand, there are no more PRIVATELY owned drydocks on the West Coast that can handle something the size of IOWA or MIDWAY. And the military drydocks are fully booked handling the active duty fleet.
@@usskidd661 Oof. It'd be nice if they could drydock her. She's needing it, just like the other ships.
Would be nice if the Navy would lend a hand out to help out the museum ships some, since they help educate and get people interested in possibly joining. Some of my friends I met while active duty were inspired to join after a museum ship visit, I myself caught a couple tiger cruises and found a love for it then.
Are they brass? Is maganese bronze ....brass?
It is an alloy of manganese and copper. Brass is a alloy of zinc and copper.
It is a alloy of manganese and copper. Brass is a alloy of zinc and copper.
The manufacturer decides what to name the alloy, usually based on it's intended use. There are subjective definitions of what constituents bronze or brass, but there is no universally agreed upon distinction. Both are alloys made with copper.
I know on one of the Facebook groups a guy was talking about how he had photos of him and the kids standing on the props. When I pointed out that is generally a bad thing to do, he insisted that there was no way that they could have damaged the ship. Seems like there’s this idea people have a that warships are invincible to the powers of man lol
@sirboomsalot4902 : Yes, agreed. 💯 One of our safety videos actually points out that museum ships are ARTIFACTS. Just because you're walking through the inside of it doesn't mean you can't hurt it.
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In the instance you're discussing, that was one of our field day volunteers. His kids were monitored, and they were simply sitting on the fairing cap for a photo, not climbing. The whole family was there for the weekend, helping to take care of the ship. They were neither causing any damage nor malicious in any way.
@@usskidd661 Gotcha, thank you for the context!
Kind of crazy that the Kidd's propellers are about 11' in diameter while an F4U Corsair's prop is 13'. 😅
I even feel safer when youre on the outside of the safety tape. It makes all the difference😂
are the propellors gonna get polished or painted?
@@CooperJohnson01: Cleaned up, but not painted.
@@usskidd661What are the pro / cons of painting? Ryan (New Jersey) seemed to imply it could reduce galvanic corrosion if I am remembering correctly.
@lunarweasel : Keep in mind that NEW JERSEY sits in brackish water at times of salt water intrusion up the Delaware River. KIDD does not see that as we are 230 miles up the Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico, and the downward current of the Mississippi is much greater than that of the Delaware. Also, KIDD is dry part of the year while in her cradle. The galvanic corrosion occurs only when the metals are connected via the medium of the surrounding water.
Painting the bronze and then having the coating damaged by vandalism during the dry period also leaves just the exposed area vulnerable to oxydization, causing uneven wear to the propeller.
@@usskidd661 Thank you for the detailed explanation! -- so sorry about the vandals!
@lunarweasel : You're very welcome. Always a pleasure hearing from you and seeing you on the LiveStreams. 🙂👍
The camera does not do justice to the size of the shaft and propeller.
People seem to have a proclivity for destroying vs. building. Amazes me how some humans see something and decide to destroy it.
If life were perfect people would just start breaking things until something interesting happened. It is just how we are wired. That is not to say destructive impulses shouldn't be regulated, but you'll never eliminate them completely.
Lot of people that work on towboats in the river call them wheels.
@@jessicawells5145: It does seem to be river-oriented, doesn't it? But how or why, we're not certain. Do you know?
@@usskidd661I would put money on it being a holdover from the paddlewheel days
@@sirboomsalot4902: Very possible.
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One thing I learnt in life is idiots will always be idiots. Doesn't make a difference whether they're educated or not.
Good video. Please make more. Be more like the New Jersey with a lot of videos and not like the Texas. They do not have meany.
@nomore9203 : Thanks for the compliment! Check out our catelogue of videos. You'll probably find others you'll like.
As for being "more like the NEW JERSEY," .... In Baton Rouge, everyone says, "Be more like LASM." In greater Louisiana, everyone says, "Be more like the National WWII Museum." In the museum ship community, everyone echoes your statement. But we're going to be what we've been for over four decades: USS KIDD (DD-661), the Pirate of the Pacific. 🇺🇲🏴☠️ Every museum has its mission and SHOULD be different and true to THAT mission. TEXAS, COD, SLATER, BAMA, Buffalo, KIDD, NJ, etc. We all have our own distinct styles, lessons, and stories to teach. And you, the viewers, benefit from that variety. So, enjoy! 😃
@@usskidd661 keep in mind, that here on the web are many guests from all over the world, that are not able to just do a quick visit. I'm from Germany and i love your content, and i would appreciate to see even more videos. Its 20 years ago i was on USS Kidd as a teenager.
@d3bugg3r : Oh, we'll be making videos. No worries about that. But we won't be churning out videos on a daily basis like Battleship NEW JERSEY, which is what it seems @nomore9203 was advocating. We appreciate our viewers--particularly those from overseas who can't visit in person often. But we're not trying to be like other museum ships. We have our own mission and our own identity and style. That's all we're saying. 🙂 Danke fürs zuschauen!
@@usskidd661 that‘s cool. I‘m gonna Share your Channel within our veterans Community. All of em have been sailing on Fletcher class destroyers back in the days when germany had six of those given to us by the US Navy. Last one was decomissioned in the early 80s.
@@d3bugg3r: Yes! And then several were passed on to Greece, if we recall correctly. 😃
every shipyard I am aware of calls the propeller the"wheel" and if he thinks that's strange then he's a newby
@ronalddavis : 😄🙂 He's definitely not a newbie. "Wheel" seems to be more of a civilian or riverine term than naval, based on the comments so far.
Rudder looks like it has a story to put it mildly.
The Kidd is normally moored in the Mississippi River, so I'm guessing they had to chop it shorter for clearance for the shallow river.
@@brownwrench: See FAQ #5 in the video description.
@@davidkaminski615: See FAQ #5 in the video description.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to set up some kind of surveillance or barricade to deter people from doing stupid things like damaging the ship. Its a shame that kind of thing is needed.
I call them rotory paddles
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USS KIDD VETERANS Museum- how are you going to make sure that the andoes aren’t stolen from people?
@@nx014: Same as before. Monitoring (remote & in-person) and inspection. And dispensing legal justice to deserving clientele.
What is the reasonable life expectancy of kid as a museum?
@michaelbrowne8068 : All depends on the support she receives from the community. CONSTITUTION, CONSTELLATION, OLYMPIA, TEXAS, VICTORY, WARRIOR, and AURORA are each in excess of 100 years old. If the money and the commitment are there and unwavering, anything is possible. WE aim to preserve and maintain her in a forward-thinking manner that allows her to survive beyond OUR lifetimes. 🙂
It looks like its time props were switched to the wrong side. The right is on the left, and the left is on the right.
We may need these old gals if the US is ever hit with an emp. Rather see these boats ready and in working order just in case.
Video's are getting better. Camera on the ship and moving around for a better look. Don't need the goofy video cut in's. Makes me want to move on. Sorry about the vandals, it happens everywhere.
I call it a "prop".
@@riff2072: Short for propeller. 🙂👍
@@usskidd661 When I read the title thought your ship was the missile ship USS Kidd with the Spruance hull. When saw the one rudder...what? I moved ahead in the video and saw the 5" guns and went...that USS Kidd.
I wouldn’t use magnesium because then some dumb as well try to light it cause it burns hot and isn’t hard to light
No tie Navy refers to it as a screw Navy Vet
@@louisdemarco7417: From an educational handout issued during World War II at a Naval Reserve Officer Indoctrination School: "Prop" - Propeller.
www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/t/terminology-and-nomenclature.html
In the fleet, we refer to him as screws. We never use the word prop.
@@louisdemarco7417: And that's why he said that "Screws" were a nickname. 🙂👍
If you were to say prop in the navy, you would be laughed at. We don’t use that term and it’s not a nickname. Stop trying to emphasize something you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I served on two frigates and a destroyer.
@louisdemarco7417 : Nickname is perhaps an incorrect term. How about "common name" vs "proper name"? "Screws" may be the common usage out in the fleet, but the U.S. Navy at an organizational level and in educational materials uses the term propeller. (See link: www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Shipyards/Norfolk/Department-Links/Naval-Foundry-and-Propeller-Center/)
We're educating people who might know nothing about the Navy. Therefore, we used the proper name used by the Navy in their materials, and we mentioned the common names that others sometimes use (like fairing cap & dunce cap). Anyone not previously familiar can now recognize what's being discussed no matter what name is used. There's no need to get angry about it. If it offends you, scroll onward.
The corrosion is incredible. Everything but the prop's is compromised. Will definitely never turn again. The aluminum anodes have definitely failed.
@normangiven6436 : Zinc, not aluminum. We're replacing the zincs with aluminum. The props haven't turned since 1964 and were never intended to turn again per our contract with the Navy.
Hamburger
@haydenmcdaniels6284 : ??? ... ??? ... You want fries with that??? 🍟
If the ship is a museum and still in the water you don't need the propellers they should be on the ship's deck
@@jameshammer-uw8iq: It all depends on how each respective museum chooses to display their ship. KIDD's hull below the waterline is visible part of the year at home in Baton Rouge when the Mississippi River is at its lowest levels, allowing the public to see equipment not normally visible for museum ships in coastal areas. Thus, we retain her props, shafts, rudder, and sonar dome for now.
that is cause itz the navy that iz a screw or the navy would say a swoooooo
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That's a wheel not a propeller!
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How much in scrap metal are those anodes worth?
Because, I don’t think, a kid, would go through the hassle of stealing one…
But, a jonesing addict will.
@@jebbohanan2626: We were only missing one.
Overall a good video but please stop with this and that special tool nonsense. I say this because pretty much all the finish work done on the Kidds Props after they were cast was done with grinders, sanders, and buffers along with various measuring tools such as angle finder, levels, rulers, protractors, straight edges, etc along with the blood and sweat of skilled craftsmen and women. Personally I find the finish work to propellers far less interesting than the construction of the patterns and molding of the casting sand that the molten bronze is poured into to create the propellers themselves
@@gullreefclub: You should do a video on that. We'd love to see it. Seriously. 🙂
Please stop the childish outtakes from movies.
Almost all TH-camrs do it and it's gotten real old over the past 7 or 8 years.
We appreciate the feedback. We're experimenting with different editing techniques, so we'll take this into consideration