The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring | REACTION from a PRIEST | part 1/2
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- My reaction to 'The Lord of The Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring' for the first time as a Priest.
This film is adored by so many but lots of LOTR may not have realised that Tolkien (the author) was motivated by his Christian faith. Its what inspired the world of Middle earth, the characters, storyline and the imagery found within it!
So sit back and join me as we discover some of the messages found within this great movie together!
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For those that don't know. The 5 "wizards" in the LOTR world are more like angels serving the God who created them than they are like Harry Potter wizards.
I feel like gandalf is more in line with jesus. He even gets resurrected
Lowest order of the maiar, guardians of the world. One thing I never understood though is the color thing. Each wizard has an identity color and the movies don't explain what those colors mean. Usually I figure white is supposed to be the head of the order. All I know is there's a white one, a grey one, a brown one, and two blue ones.
Especially in the era of TH-cam, it is interesting to see how current audiences read into Tolkien their own views. Tolkien was very reserved in describing all the beings in his imagination. While he clearly intended that Eru is the analogy to El (the god of the Canaanites including the ancient Israelites), the Valar are the principal gods who make things and operate in the world of Middle-earth. And then the Maiar are lesser beings that follow (usually) the instructions of the Valar. To use "angels serving the God" to describe these arrangements is reading a modern interpretation in Tolkien. Tolkien's Eru does work _by providence_ in M-e, but most of the actual intervention is done by the Valar.
@@ginger_jeezus spoilers???
They also adopted the facade of elderly men knowing that their council would be more likely listened to
Essentially they’re formless beings, but had the wisdom to cater their form to the worlds dispositions
Tolkien was a devout catholic, but Lord of the Rings was directly inspired by all world mythologies, hence the Maiar (Nephilim, Annunaki, Nagi) and Numenor (Atlantis, Soddam and Gommora). Tolkien loved all mythologies and wanted to make one for Western Europe.❤
Actually, he wanted a mythology for England. That's what he wrote specifically in a letter. Western Europe has mythologies (Norse, Finnish, etc.)
@@catherinelw9365 Sorry, that's what I meant to say, England specifically.
It should be said that while what you said is true, his universe is still meant to be "ours", but in the past. In the sense that Eru Ilúvatar is the one true god in his universe, the same as he believed in ours, and then by the 6th age, magic had disappeared and the continents reshaped into the Earth as we know it today.
@@TheArrowedKnee Absolutely ♥ 😊
Tolkein also used his knowledge of mythology and his WW1 experiences
Oh, absolutely. I think it's fair to say that Tolkien certainly meant for the Shire to be an idyllic place, that place you long for as a home away from war. I don't think the description of it as materialist, "short of the glory of God", is very close to Tolkien's intent. He certainly found little fault with a life lived tending to the soil.
But Tolkien was I think keenly aware that a society in pastoral innocence can also engender a kind of insularity, an unquestioning smugness - indeed he criticizes Sam for this, a character otherwise of almost saintly character. And he is also clear about the idea that war and heroism can destroy you entirely, that "great" doesn't always coexist with "enviable."
I think the films fail to show aspects of this, to their detriment, although I do rate them highly.
Tolkien definitely used mythology, I wouldn't say he used his war experience, he specifically denied any such thing, the experience of a soldier is very clearly in the books but not out of a conscience effort on his part. He didn't do the dead marshes because of the war on purpose, but it is very possible in his mind, that's where it came from. If that makes sense.
@@omalleycaboose5937cool thing about the marshes - Legolas’ Father; Thranduil, and grandfather Oropher were leaders in the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore.
The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon).
All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff.
One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts.
I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist.
But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor.
Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor.
His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
I feel the opposite of what you said about Tolkien with the Hobbits... I feel like he's lifting them up. Complimenting their lack of desire for worldly things. Saying them wanting only the simple things in life was a huge compliment. They weren't greedy. Their hearts were pure. Innocent. There's nothing better.
My grandfather was agnostic, but he was very passionate about these books. They taught me a lot about philosophy, morality, and the human spirit. Im glad my grandfather was able to see these movies before he passed, & I hope he was able to share a song & a pipe with the author when he did.
Did he die an agnostic, or did he give his life over to Jesus before he died?
@@MrCrazychristian86 idk he had dementia. Thanks for your compassion
I'm agnostic as well, but you know what? I think your grandfather is right there with Tolkien. Enjoying a bit of pipeweed, in eternity.
He, like mortal men, moved beyond the circles of the world. Must have been a great man. Requiescat in pace
I'm an atheist, but i can fully appreciate all the imagery and paralels in the LOTR universe.
Ringwraiths have no significant problem crossing water. They do it later in the movie. The river where the ferry is is the Brandywine River, one of the greatest rivers in Middle-Earth and a deep river with a strong current. A horse isn't going to cross it. In fact, Frodo's an orphan because his parents drowned in that river when the boat capsized.
Well there is a problem actually that the Ringwraiths have with water in Middle Earth. You see, Ulmo is the god of waters and he has a particular envy towards Morgoth and further, Sauron and his forces. So the Ringwraiths fear the powers of Ulmo in water, hence the hesitation.
@@shubhamgadre3714 not envy. Pure righteous Hatred. All evil fears Ulmo and his children, even Ossë and Uinen in their unfallen forms could easily trounce Sauron in both his less diminished form and diminished form alike!
@@shubhamgadre3714 Here is why they can’t & wouldn’t cross water. Especially as former Númenorean men of great stature who’d know of Ulmo’s presence and the protections of nature and other presences around Imladris/Rivendell. - Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
The wraiths are afraid of the water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, and Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths.
Here are the honest suggestion for those whoever wanna do Reaction video to TLOR : MAKE YOUR VIDEO AS LONG AS IT CAN. JUST DO IT . ( trust me , LOTR fans gonna like it , no doubt )
We have the patience to watch 4.5 hour long movies. We can handle a longer youtube video.
@@SarahLandry577I can handle several 4 hour videos and streams
I think the hardest part for you tubers is that the longer the scenes are, the more of a chance it will hit copyright rules to adjust
Like you said, Tolkien disliked allegory. He wanted to leave the meaning to the interpretation of the reader.
“I think that many confuse "applicability" with "allegory"; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.” - Lord of the Rings forward, JRR Tolkien
Nazgul fear both water and fire. I think there is something about the energy in fire, and of water as the basis of life, and that Ulmo, Lord of Water, one of the Valar, is very opposed to Sauron's power, that makes them fear water. They can enter it, but only in great need.
Thanks 🙏🏼
Aüle is probably the reason they fear fire. He is the Ainur of the forge, sort of a fire diety like Vulcan or archangel of fire like Uriel. He created the Dwarves himself, although Eru Iluvator gave them life, which is why they are resistant to flame. He is also the original lord that Sauron served before he turned to Morgoth, and probably part of why the heat of Mt Doom can destroy his ring. Fire is often symbolic of power in tolkien's works, both the power to create & to destroy. Another example is Fëanor, the "elf with a spirit of fire", who was responsible for both the greatest treasures & the gravest sins of the Noldor.
Their physical senses are also greatly diminished, so water being fluid and can flow is something that is hard for them to contend with. They also have trouble in bright sunlight.
If you have never read any of Tolkien’s books I would suggest the Silmarillion. Tolkien would often allude to his secondary world being born out of the desire to create. But that man’s creation was only an imitation of God’s creation. That said, the creation story in the beginning of the Silmarillion is the most beautiful one that I have ever read in any mythology. Tolkien’s universe is governed by an almighty being known as Eru, the One. He creates a host of angelic beings known as the Maier. The most powerful of the Maier are known as the Valar. And in this universe, they function very similar to a pantheon of demi gods who oversee the world. The Elves and Men are special creations of Eru. Elves are immortal, but they are bound to earth. Man is gifted with death. It is a gift because it is understood that there is something beyond death. The Valar left the heavenly host to oversee the world. But it was sometime before the Elves and Men were awakened. One of the Valar, known as Aulë was a Smith and longed for creatures he could teach. Too impatient to wait for the Elves and Men, he created the Dwarfs. But since the spark of life, the flame imperishable, resided only with Eru, the Dwarfs could not move or act without direct control by Aule. Eru admonished Aule for creating the Dwarfs. And Aule offered to destroy them. But Eru saw that Aule was not acting out of a desire to rule, but a desire to teach. So Eru gifted the dwarfs with the spark of life that is only his to give. But he also put them to sleep, because they were not permitted to be before the Elves and Men. Gandalf is a Maier, as is the Balrog that he fights. The difference between the two of them is that the Balrog is among the Maier who chose to follow the fallen Valar Melkor, who is essentially Lucifer in Tolkien’s legendarium.
You need to explore this whole series. I'm a combat vet, and this is healing.
Same here, Brother. That end scene in Return of the King, when the Hobbits are back at in the Shire at the Green Dragon inn... and everybody is just going about their business like nothing ever happened, and those 4 share that meaningful look... Absolutely powerful. Thank you for keeping your home safe so that people can complain about the size of pumpkins and the taste of the beer.
Thanks brother @calchambers605
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@@calchambers605 your last sentence is both hilarious and heartwarming! 😂❤
@@Okini_Hasa Thank you. That's just how I felt after coming home every time... It's like an alternate universe. A really bad day used to be when you get a flat tire and are late for work. Now? That's just a mild inconvenience.
Tolkien's Lucifer was Melkor.. Sauron's master. We can consider Sauron as a demon. Sauron (the Abhorred) is a name that was given to him, by the free people, in contrast with his real name: Mairon "the Admirable".. when he was corrupted by Melkor.
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star,
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known”
The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above!
There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings.
The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell:
“The Road goes ever on and on,
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.”
The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before.
The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep.
“The Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.”
1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads".
1980: The Return of the King (1980 film):
A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On".
1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series):
Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver.
1997: An Evening in Rivendell:
The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff.
2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring:
Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End.
2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical:
The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act.
2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies:
Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film.
This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
Read book Of The Silmarillion please
And react to videos and audio books about Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, Book Of Lost Tales etc. such as by GirlNextGondor, The Red Book, Tolkien Untangled, Dark Gandalf, and Hello Future Me!
Gandald showing his authority to Bilbo reminds me of God speaking to Moses at the burning bush. Moses constantly tried to speak back to God, and God had to remind him who was truly in control, like a father correcting a child.
Tolkien had played with the idea that the Nazgul cannot cross water which was based on an old folklore that evil cannot cross running water but at least partially scrapped it to explain how the Nazgul could get to the Shire, but left in that they seemed to have some fear of the water although the exact reason for that fear is left vague, more of just an existing weakness without any concrete reason given (although plenty of theories exist drawing from other pieces of Tolkien's writings about Middle Earth). They can still cross water but they choose to avoid doing so when they can. Also the leader of the Nazgul lacks this fear of water which again no exact reason is given although again there are some theories.
The problem with your take on the movie is that Saron is not the devil in the lord of the ring, he is only a servant to Tolkins devil, Morgoth who was defeated and cast in the first age. And the rings of power were not made by god but by the Elves under the tutalage of Sarorn.
I'm an atheist, so I have no right to opine on biblical parallels, but I think that's perhaps too literal a view of the books. Tolkien explicitly did not want a 1:1 allegory: he "cordially detest[ed]" them. I think the suggestion of this being a parallel theme holds merit.
Your point about the rings being "of Sauron" has merit. The rings in that sense are all of them an expression of control, shackles: they all Bind. And they Bind to Earthly things -- they are ultimately an attempt at clinging on to things that should perhaps be allowed to move on, which in Tolkien's view borders the desire to possess and dominate. All the Noldor had this in spades, from Féanor's desire to repossess the Silmarils to the yearning of Galadriel to rule a shining kingdom of her own.
He said this is Christian imagery not metaphor or allegory. Very different things.
@@VastyVastyVoid Tolkien rejected allegory *defined by the author,* but supported interpretation by the reader. Thus, while Tolkien himself did not create Melkor as an allegory for Satan, I am entirely free to personally *interpret* Melkor as a version of Satan.
@@davidkulmaczewski4911nicely said. Still Tolkien explained why very deeply in many letters and interviews. It’s a revival of ancient knowledge, languages and culture of several things. Arthurian. Olde English, Irish, Finnish, Welsh, Germanic, Norse. Especially for Gandalf to Odin, Gandalf and Merlin are super close to Odin and Gandalf is super duper close to Wotan. Even down to the look and demeaner
Not Sauron by Annatar. Sauron is a cursed elvish name as to diminish the power of Mairon the almost admirable.
Never did I think I would watch a priest reacting on youtube, but here I am. Though I love reacting to people seeing lotr so it works! I will say being 7 minutes in I do have a massive respect for something you're saying. Each time you make a comparison to Christian beliefs you say, "Christians believe x and y" instead of saying it IS like that. I really appreciate that little tidbit, sounds more like teaching and less like preaching lol. So thank you for that.
Also edit: I like how your lighting setup makes you look like the angels from Constantine, with the golden eyes lol.
Ahh cheers mate 👍🏼
Thanks for doing this reaction! I’m Catholic, and knowing that Tolkien was also Catholic, I’ve been waiting for several years for a priest to do a reaction. It didn’t disappoint 😊.
Aw bless you
Thanks
Tolkien apparently never forgave C.S. Lewis for becoming Anglican
@@katarinadreams6955they were friends all their lives, CS Lewis told Tolkien Tolkien wasn't born in Belfast! Love the Lord of the rings the books and the movies and I'm aware of all the liberality the movies take but they're not that bad! They did a wonderful job putting in putting the books into movies I have the complete set of the extended version of all three of the movies also listen to the books on audio frequently. Characters in the movie fit the book mostly!
One of the things I liked best about The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings when I was young is there is no overt religiosity in them. If you don’t believe in God you can still enjoy the books. As I’ve continued to re-read the books & delve more deeply into his other works like the Silmarillion, I can see Tolkien set his world building in a spiritual place & that is interesting too, but it is written as a fantasy & no one is trying to force anyone to believe, iow, there’s no proselytizing in this world. Heck, the hobbits don’t even know there is a god & have no religious practices.
Good father? Brother...I am not religious so don't really know how to address you sir, but it is difficult to understand and compare the Lotr with the Bible, without having knowledge of the Silmarillion, as it would be trying to explain the bible by leaving out the old Testament.
One builds on the other...
I'll give you a quick hierarchy:
Eru Illuvatar (the creator)
The Ainur who sang the world into being. They split up into becoming spirits of the world itself becoming physically part of it & those that take on a more humanshaped godly form; they are known as the Valar.
Of the Valar Melkor is the most powerful and Ambitious and ultimately rebels when he is not chosen as their leader.
He descends down to the world (Middle Earth after all is but a continent on it) and tries to grow in his own power.
Below the Valar we have angeliclike spirits known as the Maiar.
They aide the gods and some follow Melkor (amongst whom Sauron or Mairon as he was known) was one.
There are also Maiar that get corrupted and twisted by Melkor and turned into Balrogs.
And there are Maiar who become known as the Istari. Whom we know as the Wizards since they would be too powerful in their actual form on the World they instead take on the frail bodies of old Men to limit them and they are purely there to guide and steer the peoples of the World toward the good.
The Eagles are creations of the Valar Manwe the 'God of Winds and wisest of the Valar' they are not simple beasts without mind or agency. They serve the Gods.
Then we go into the Children
The Elves - The First Children of Eru Illuvatar
The Dwarves - creations made by Aule who was inspired by the creation of the elves but ultimately since only Eru can really create Aule was disappointed by his creations and wanted to destroy them in shame, however Eru stops him and tells him what was done cannot be simply erased and so makes a deal that the Dwarves can live in the world too, provided they wake up after the Elves.
Then we have Eru's Second Children, the race of Man.
Now I cannot recall this exactly, but I believe the Hobbits are a creation of Yavannah, the Valar of Nature, basically doing what Aule did too.
As for the Orcs....well remember that the Elves were the First Children, they were send to the world 'to wake up there' and to be lead to the lands of Aman the lands of the Gods. However some elves tarry and some even meet Melkor first, getting lured away by him and Melkor in his arrogance tries to better Eru's creation, making his own, but fails, thus spiteful goes to lure some of the Elves away from the Valar and their promises and inturn twists and corrupts them into Orcs.
Now there are many tales I think you can appreciate from the Silmarillion, so I do suggest you look into them.
My favourite character from it is Finrod Felagund, because of his sacrifices and his influence in later events (such as in Beren & Luthien) and suggest it as a little gift for you.
Tolkien was catholic and what Arwien speaks in not tongues but the elven language
Tolkien was a philologist. He wrote the languages as he wrote middle earth. They are loosely formed from old European sources.
If you look in the dictionary, one definition of the word tongues is languages. Same thing.
@@andeeleininger5968 Yes, but not in the sens of "speaking in languages". Elves speak in a specific tongue, that has a history and a development, it's not some arcane or mystical language and is not coming down from the heavens.
@@Laurelin70meanwhile their literal songs can make the trees grow taller and glow more exuberantly. Cause cursed fortresses to crumble down to their base earth structures.
FYI, there are no spoilers below as none of this is included in the movie; you would need to read the Silmarillion. Tolkien’s analogue to Satan was Morgoth Bauglir (originally Melkor), who was bon of the Valar (basically Arch Angels) in the service of Eru (The One), the creator. Sauron was one of the Maiar (essentially a lower rank of angelic being), who was corrupted by Morgoth (as were some other Maiar such as the Balrogs). Morgoth was defeated by the other Valar, resulting in the catastrophic destruction of Beleriand, after which they exile him and cast him into the void. Morgoth’s chief servant Sauron however remains in Middle Earth, leading to the events in the Third Age which are the basis for the Lord of the Rings.
The Nazgul are undead, and thus unnatural, and corrupted by evil.
So the reason that they, while in the guise of Black Riders, are afraid of water is because of their fear of Eru Illuvitar's (God's) created natural world, which He has hallowed.
Also, in the book, they fear fire, for the same reason, so Aragorn builds a large fire to keep them at bay. This is the opposite of what Peter Jackson did in the film.
Jackson lost sight of the fact that fire represents Eru's light and goodness, and indeed, His Spirit (the Secret Fire aka the Flame Imperishable) with which He created and hallowed all things.
The palantiri (Seeing-stones) are not evil, in and of themselves. However, Sauron possesses at least one of them and can reach others through it.
Something subtle about Gandalf vs Sauron is how Sauron is evil, so he wants to dominate others. But Gandalf is an angelic being sent by God to simply guide people. It would be hypocritical if he also manipulated the wills of others. Hence why he is an old man, he needs to be physically useless. In a typical battle he's no more useful that another person with a sword.
Yet when it comes to fighting actual evil ie the Balrog or Nazgul, that's when he can use divine power ie light. Or his ability to inspire and uplift those around him indirectly.
Also, it's super underrated how he demonstrates the socratic ideal of knowing his own boundaries and saying no to the ring because it would wield too much power through him - the opposite to most of the people in the story. Much more difficult than it sounds.
As someone who isn't religious, LOTR has done more than anything else to explain Christianity to me. Great reaction.
Didn’t Tolkien specifically say that the LOTR was never intended as a metaphor for Christianity or those beliefs? Obviously there would have been some inspiration but it was never supposed to be directly referential.
He talked about the difference between allegory and applicability. So the LotR has a lot of themes you can apply to your own life and the Bible has a lot of themes you can apply to the LotR. Themes like hope vs. despair, sacrifice, humility vs. pride and so on. So you can’t look at it and say, “here is the Christ figure.” Because there are ways in which multiple characters have some elements that are Christ-like but in other ways are unlike Christ.
He called it a fundamentally Catholic work.
3 for the elves
7 for the dwarves
9 for the men
1 to rule them all
Tolkien died in 1973
Mankind and divinity are inseperable, every culture and people on earth have created a religion in some form or another, there is innate desire to connect with the spiritual and in the modern day poeple are convinced they dont need it, and so they go through life without connection to God or gods.
Really interesting insight! I really enjoyed your take on the narrative - made me see it in a really different light! Loving your content!
Great watch! Loved the reactions and analysis to this brilliant film/ story. So glad you commented on some of the strange and weird faces in this film. The relation to prayer really resonated with me. Thanks for sharing!
The greatest thing Peter Jackson did for this movie is that he made it universal for everyone, everyone has a different opinion on what is going on
Such a beautiful way of explaning one of my fav movies. Greeatings from a muslim Tolkien fan
Nearly every reactor asks about the water. Yes water 'throws them off' and they prefer to cross it by bridge. Aside from that, ever try to get a horse to jump? If that rider had tried to jump a horse that weighed close to a ton with armor, tack etc onto a small boat it wouldn't have ended well for anyone. The horse would likely do what the one in the movie did.
Yes good point, I guess I’m reading into it too much 😆
In case nobody else has answered your question, the Nazgul can cross running water, but they really hate doing it. There isn't any reason given for it in the books that I found. Tolkien gave them that weakness and later admitted that it was difficult to maintain. I think there's an old superstition that vampires can't cross running water -- maybe he was inspired by that. Interesting reaction, Father -- I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Also, specifically with that scene with Arwen, I'm shocked how most reactors miss an important part of dialogue minutes before. She says she will be protected by her people/land. The river in that sense is simply a border, which she can now use the power of the ring the elves have (elements). The Nazgul obviously know this too, so the ring is causing them to be desperate by trying to cross.
The valar (somewhat of a god) that is associated with water, the sea and rivers by extension is Ulmo and in contrast to the other valar, he was always more proactive in helping men and elves against the evil powers. There are several instances in the silmarilion where he even appears in form infront of humans to guide them. So I always imagined that the forces of evil in general fear the water because it is the realm of one of the mightiest and most active of the valar. Additionally, the waters around rivendell are under the influence of Elrond, it's stated in the book that he can command the bruinen to swell to protect rivendell from enemies. So maybe the wraiths and their steeds can sense that in some way as well.
In other writings, Tolkien did refer to the idea that while all the substances of the earth had been 'tainted' with evil by Melkor when Arda was being shaped, water seemed to remain the most 'pure' and untainted, while gold was the most ruined element.
Dear Vic, One does not plunge ones mount into unknown deep dark water. Be aware there is a lot more darkness to come, Tolkien drew on Finnish and Norse mythologies which get a bit bleak and gory.
"The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and symbolism.".
- JRR Tolkien.
Written to Father Robert Murray.
Yes iv heard this quote before really helpful and justifies drawing out the Christian images 👍🏼
Thank you for giving a new view on this masterpiece. Btw am I the only one who thinks you have a 100% Aussie accent? Until you've said you are english, I was sure you were australian lol
8:39 - "And here comes the great interrupter." you say, when Gandalf arrives. I never saw it that way before: That Gandalf stirs up the quiet life of the Hobbits.
But yes, he does (besides the fireworks).
On the other hand, it is Bilbo who chooses his celebration night to use the ring for his disappearance joke (and attract the evil forces). I wonder what Bilbo would have done that evening if Gandalf had not been present. And I wonder if Bilbo would have taken the ring with him on his journey, if Gandalf had not stopped him doing so.
Yes, Gandalf is an interrupter, though I tend to see him as one who recognises threatening forces that will interrupt everyone's life (and the stable order of the world), and so he takes on the task of warning and guiding the good, and of preventing and fighting evil.
You have a pleasant way of reacting and offer insightful thoughts. Thank you for sharing.
Bilbo using the ring does not "attract evil forces". Gollum is captured and reveals the names "Shire" and "Baggins" which Bilbo told him when he unknowingly stole the ring from Gollum back in the Hobbit. It's probably a good thing that Bilbo used the ring here, as that is what made Gandalf choose to research the ring, and have Aragorn capture Gollum, so that they knew Mordor was aware and after the ring.
Tolkien being a serious Catholic, a priest's reaction to these films is appropriate. The epistles of St. Paul and the gospels are my favorite in the Bible. Beautiful language.
To my knowledge token never explains why the Nazgûl are affected by water, even though it is used against them. Me personally, I like to think it is because the Nazgûl are dead wraiths that kind of crossed back into the world from the empty void. I think water represents life, and the force of life would weaken the ring wraiths. To me the great eye in the movie looks like a portal, which Sauron needs to ring to be able to cross, allowing him to escape the void where Margoth was banished to. Although to my knowledge, there’s no evidence of this in the books. It’s just my theory in my head.
we are here to learn recognaise darkness in ourself and in the world/universe.
btw the dragons is back, they will help us back in our hearts, krist energy and thats what's gonna save us.
the return of christus is us beeing able to become like him, not him coming back.
he said it himself with the words, if u do as I, u will be able to do as I and even greater things than I.
everybody is on the "hero's journey".
and all roads leed to "rome".
Namaste
Interesting take on the story. In my opinion, in almost all cultures, water is a symbol of purity and healing and resilience of life. So, when the Wraiths , who were symbols of evil and death, were washed away, it could be symbolism for that purification.
And also, angelic things don't always mean they're good things. Elves were beautiful and good, true. But the ring itself was, in its simplicity, beautiful and looked so innocent. In fact, it looks like a wedding ring. But instead of commitment to your loved one, it binds you to misery.
Well there is a problem actually that the Ringwraiths have with water in Middle Earth. You see, Ulmo is the god of waters and he has a particular envy towards Morgoth and further, Sauron and his forces. So the Ringwraiths fear the powers of Ulmo in water, hence the hesitation.
first time I've watched your channel, but you'd for sure be interested in the greater mythology, pretty sure Eru isn't even mentionned in the movies
It’s a very old idea from European myths that evil spirits could not cross running water. Just an answer to your question….
I'm probably taking your analogies too far, but if the elves and orcs are angelic, what are the ainur?
Yes, Christianity is absolutely connected to older faiths. Mostly founded in Greek Mythology which is re-marketed by the New Testament but disguised by it's physical narrative that argues a new imagining of Hebraic texts by interpreting it through Sumerian and Babalonian doctrines (As seen in the Canonical Bible) reducing the nature and will behind the universe to a mere character in the cast with limited powers of authority.
Suddenly the God who is "not a man, nor son of man" is the word who became flesh.
The God who does not require sacrifice, needs to pay for the sins of the guilty by murdering the innocent as atonement. The God who will not come as a man, came as a man.
Eternal life through remnant decedents (an observable objective standard) was reduced to an eternal AFTER life that you just better blindly believe in, or you will be punished with torture for all eternity, because Jesus loves them, and died for their sins, but it only works if they acknowledge him to be the God who consistently commanded against following one who comes like Jesus.
The God who declared those who hold to their truest self (by obeying the voice of the spirit passed from the divine and passed through generations) to have no name above the divine, no god before Him, suddenly requires people to worship an anointed sacrifice as God in order to reach the divine. Quite a petty and useless god the church idols o Christ are, as the great commission requires The Church to seek the destruction of all people in covenant with the God they give lip service to, but only to set up their own god in His place.
Literally every title and role of "The Father" in the bible is attributed to "The son" in the New Testament, with new commands, a new path to salvation through religion rather than the divine directly, and that before the church began absorbing every other religion on the planet right up until Islam, another new figure with an even newer testament took away the Church's monopoly through the same tactics with better thought out forms of political conquest.
This also allowed for newer new new testaments to emerge ranging from denominational variations, to the book of Mormon. ALL of whom claim THEY have the truth exclusively, yet exist because apparently their respective ideas of the divine are so unreliable, unproveable, and militantly unquestionable, that they have to do all the work they believe a god requires.
Ironic cult. Point to their proudest history and they'll give all glory to Jesus. Point to literally everything else, and that's the fault of the sinful people with Jesus in their hearts.
So they TEACH that Jesus redeems you justifying you from your sins, and give you eternal life, but in practice, THEY redeem Jesus by paying for HIS sins (Church being the body of Christ and all) They wind up justifying HIM, and keeping HIM relevant forever rather than the other way around.
Much like the claims about Jesus himself, who objectively has been (and still is) fulfilling all of the prophets predictions of the false prophet, the little horn, the beast who's image is set up around the world for all to worship (Jesus) overthrowing the law (christianity) appointing new days and times (Christian holidays/pagan holy days) and DECEIVING MANY.
YET objectively Jesus has not fulfilled ANY of his own prophecies. No man anointed his head with oil, so not qualified as Christ. Never brought the people into the land nor restored the temple, so not Messiah. Actually was the new named worshiped in the temple in the first century leading to the promised destruction of the temple in 70 AD, and sent his disciples out of the land in order to teach all nations. The literal exact polar opposite of Messiah. None of his disciples, apostles, nor even he himself (depending on your doctrines) ever had descendants that lived. No remnant. Destroyed. Cut off. Damned. So, not a savior, and none of his teachings led to eternal life. (Which is why NOW you have to believe a perfect teacher meant eternal after-life when he said eternal life, cause their god is kind of a fickle yet ruthless prankster that way)
That's just a few observable evidences based on their own scriptures they themselves say are the perfect word of the god they pretend to worship, but replace entirely with the idol of the man-god Jesus. Followers of whom are in a distinctly different religion, with NEW Testament scriptures, adopting classical pagan holidays and absorbing the traditions of those they conquer as they seek to wipe out the people their Bible calls God's chosen witnesses, light of the world (according to them) and the Church historically accomplished that goal with murder and war, and still today attempts to do it through religious conversion.
The lack of self awareness anyone must posses by the end of christian indoctrination is absurdly astounding.
@Opener73guess what. TH-cam is where many communities collide and it’s where we come together. So… your point is moot. Add to the conversation or vamoose to spend your time doing something you love and that adds to your day or someone else’s, even if it’s making the life of an animal as fun and pleasant as possible. Care for others. Peace ❤
Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford.
He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed.
I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work.
A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away.
It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten.
His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well.
Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films.
Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions.
The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas.
To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE.
His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things.
Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life.
The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English.
He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish)
They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series.
World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on TH-cam & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99.
I’d also like to explain Gandalf a bit too: Tolkien drew alot of inspiration from the norse mythology. Magical rings, Gandalf (Staff elf in old norse), Gandalfs outfit (Odin), Gandalfs title 'the grey wanderer' (Odin), Shadowfaxe (The horses of day and night Rhimfaxe and Skinfaxe), Trolls, elves, dwarves etc.
* Odin had a legendary horse, Sleipnir, who had eight legs and was said to be one of the greatest horses known to the gods. Gandalf had Shadowfax, who had no equal among horses in Middle-earth and could understand the speech of men.
* Ødin’s legendary gear-the spear Gungnir and the ring Draupnir-could have influenced Gandalf’s legendary sword Glamdring or, more likely, the magic staff he carries, while the ring possibly influenced Gandalf’s possession of the ring Narya (Sturlson 145).
* Gandalf and Odin both receive new wisdom as a result of sacrifice, as Gandalf is reincarnated after his fight with the Balrog, and Ødin gains power and wisdom after hanging himself on the tree Yggdrasil for nine days (Sigfusson 80-85).
* One of the most apparent ways in which Gandalf and Ødin are alike is that they both take the shape of an old grey pilgrim, with a wide-brimmed hat and grey cloak when they wander the mortal world and deal with the inhabitants (Pitts 7).
* Gandalf and Ødin are virtually reflections of each other, as can be observed through examining their gear and animal companions, the way they sacrificed themselves and were rewarded with wisdom, and the fact that they walk the earth as old men in tattered clothing.
The Renowned Steeds of Gandalf and Odin
Gandalf and Ødin both have renowned horses and staves with magical properties. Odin carries the legendary spear Gungnir, which is said never to miss its mark when thrown (Sturlson 145); however, he also carries it as his staff when he wanders the earth as an old man.
In the Poetic Edda, the Valkyrie Sigrdrifa advises Sigurd about the magical application of runes and tells him that there are runes inscribed on the tip of Gungnir (Sigfusson 291). This spear could be a parallel to Glamdring( High Elven King Turgon’s sword, that was forged for the Goblin wars but is most likely influential to the staff Gandalf carries on his journeys.
Strikingly similar to Shadowfax, Odin possesses a legendary horse named Sleipnir, who has eight legs and can run on the ground and through the air at great speeds. This sounds very similar, in some ways, to Tolkien’s description of Shadowfax in The Two Towers, “Shadowfax tossed his head and cried aloud as if a trumpet had summoned him to battle. Then he sprang forward. Fire flew from his feet; night rushed over him” (Tolkien 228).
Elden Ring, Dungeons And Dragons, Diablo, Zelda, Harry Potter, vamp diaries, Red Sonja, Oath Breakers, Dragon Lance, Willow, Conan, Swords and Magic, Highlander movie+series and so much more were inspired by Tolkiens works.
Yeshua was spoken of by many ascended masters around the world. And the church is Rome and the council of Nicaea who hate yeshua. He taught that your father is not my father. Hinting at Enlil and those like Marduk etc who pretend to be god and force humans to do heinous things in his name. Heck. There was a woman from somewhere farther east that one of the “apostles” said he heard a woman was performing healings on others, AKA high level reiki energy healing, and Yeshua stated she doesn’t have to do healings in his name. Various forms of healing modalities, from remedies to tinctures to literal energy work with one’s hands has been a power of ours for ages. He stated that what he can do we can do and more. Why else is our pineal gland etc the target of calcification? Why else is our lungs actually forming into a DNA spiral? Why our heart isn’t simply a pumper of blood? The natives know yeshua well. Even have names for him. They also share a lot about the fire messengers. There is a Native American man who is of a long line of fire messengers and this generation is at the 7th fire going into the 8th and your message shows yet again people are waking up to the massive psychological manipulation we’ve been going against for several centuries now if not longer! Great awakening to the natives is the quickening. To others it’s the Kali Yuga and the lifting of the veil is the meaning of the word Apocalypsë.
Extended scenes at risk of being missed: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin!
(An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.)
2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time.
3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer.
4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall.
5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books).
6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel).
That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn!
7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
27:03 The Elves do indeed have something angelic about them, or at least some of them do. Some groups of Elves have lived in the Undying Lands in the West, across the sea, where angelic beings called the Valar live. The Valar resemble gods from some polytheistic religions, but they are in fact more like angels invited to live and watch over the world by the one true god, called Eru in Tolkien's setting.
Those Elves that then travelled to Middle-Earth brought some of the power and wisdom from the Undying Lands with them.
Tolkien said that the Elves are modeled after what would have happened if Adam and Eve hadn't disobeyed god. Elves are essentially humans who haven't 'fallen'. In norse mythology, Elves were created before the 'sons of Adam' and because they didn't disobey; they never lost their immortality.
And to say "travelled" puts it lightly.
They rebelled, because of the oath the Noldor made against Melkor, then named after Morgoth.
The kinslaying at the harbor, the crossing of the northern ice, the betrayal of Feanor against his brother.
The Silmarillion is something else entirely.
They’re all extensions of Eru. All the Valar and Maiar. Same as the elves and even the men. This is the same as all those in the traditions of india. All are expressions for various reasons, of the prime source, the godhead. ❤
@@mark13prepperyup and the unfinished tales completes it all and Lay Of Leithien and Of Beren and Lúthien completed by Christopher Tolkien was amazing. The audiobook for it is lovely ❤
@@roddo1955but the truth is Morgoth found mankind before Finrod ever did. i.e Andreth discussions with Finrod. He tormented mankind forever and cursed them into what lead into shorter lifespans and a tortured fëa spirit that no longer aligned with their hroä body. They were meant to essentially be mentored by the elves to become stewards of the earth both prior to and after Morgoth poisoning the world causing The Long Defeat which incidentally is the worlds magic bleeding away until the ending of the world at Dagor Dagorath. The final battle. And the world is rebuilt anew and a new song of the ainur takes place alongside both mankind and elves and dwarves alike.
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They can go into the water and anywhere, the book explains. The Nazguls were still weak, and therefore their disembodied spirit was covered with cloaks, which makes it possible to do something in the material world. It will be clear later, but it is explained in the book.
28:52 Actually she knows what words she's saying, she's saying an enchantment to the river so it may act in her favour. Very animist.
I think the river may also listen to her by way of Elrond's proxy - after all, he is likely the head metaphysical authority in and around Rivendell.
Interesting that you compare Sauron, "the enemy of the free peoples" to Satan, when... wasn't it Lucifer who rebelled for mankind's free will and was banished from Heaven for that? Allegedly.
I'm from a religious family (and christened) so I have some knowledge of catholicism but I'm not religious myself. Just curious about what a priest makes of that interpretation.
Tolkiens interviewers pushin beg this “religion” stuff upon him proves why we shouldn’t continue to push the religion into his scholarly work to revive ancient knowledge etc.
He wrote many forwards that it wasn’t to do with it but people could freely connect with applicability but not allegory. He was reviving ancient knowledge. Language and culture of several countries. As a love letter to England. Arthurian legends and culture. Olde English. Anglo Saxon language and culture what was harmed greatly by the Norman invasion of 1610… but yes. Applicability vs allegory interview of Tolkien was top notch.
Father loved your reaction to this. I love hearing your point of view. If you haven’t read the books, I suggest you do. You can tell JRR Tolken had definitely read his Bible more than once. I can’t wait to see the second half of this movie and I hope you do the whole series.❤️✌️🌼
Bless mate, very encouraging. I will definitely do the whole series in time 👍🏼
One of my favorite lines in the book that was omitted from the movie was Aragorn saying to Pippin as he restored the brooch that had held Pippin's cloak (and that he had left as a sign on the trail of the Orc captors): "He who cannot cast away a treasure at need is in fetters."
This proves the old saying "when you are a hammer, everything is a nail".
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The song Aragorn sings has huge importance! Here is the full version: “The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen; Of stars in shadow shimmering, Tinnúviel was dancing there, To music of a pipe unseen
And light of stars was in her hair
And in her raiment glimmering
There Beren came from mountains cold; And lost he wandered under leaves; And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves; And saw in wonder flowers of gold
Upon her mantle and her sleeves
And her hair like shadow following
Enchantment healed his weary feet
That over hills were doomed to roam
And forth he hastened, strong and fleet
And grasped at moonbeams glistening
Through woven woods in Elvenhome
She lightly fled on dancing feet
And left him lonely still to roam
In the silent forest listening
He heard there oft the flying sound
Of feet as light as linden-leaves
Or music welling underground
In hidden hollows quavering
Now withered lay the hemlock-sheaves
And one by one with sighing sound
Whispering fell the beachen leaves
In the wintry woodland wavering
He sought her ever, wandering far
Where leaves of years were thickly strewn
By light of moon and ray of star
In frosty heavens shivering
Her mantle glinted in the moon
As on a hill-top high and far
She danced, and at her feet was strewn
A mist of silver quivering
When winter passed, she came again
And her song released the sudden spring,
Like rising lark, and falling rain
And melting water bubbling
He saw the elven-flowers spring
About her feet, and healed again
He longed by her to dance and sing
Upon the grass untroubling
Again she fled, but swift he came
Tinnúviel ! , Tinnúviel !
He called her by her elvish name
And there she halted listening
One moment stood she, and a spell
His voice laid on her: Beren came
And doom fell on Tinúviel
That in his arms lay glistening
As Beren looked into her eyes
Within the shadows of her hair
The trembling starlight of the skies
He saw there mirrored shimmering
Tinnúviel the elven-fair
Immortal maiden elven-wise
About him cast her shadowy hair
And arms like silver glimmering
Long was the way that fate them bore
O'er stony mountains cold and grey
Through halls of ireon and darkling door,
And woods of nightshade morrowless
The Sundering Seas between them lay
And yet at last they met once more
And long ago they passed away
In the forest singing sorrowless”
The true elvish version is far greater and so full of beauty & nuanced mournful sadness that’s break the hearts of mortals from its beauty and sadness so the true song has been sort of taboo and the mannish tongues that retell it is stated to only be a shadow beneath the tree of the true story!
(A clip of it is in the original definitive version though. Viggo Mortenson who plays Aragorn designed the melody and style himself and wished it to sound Celtic in nature.)
Thank you for the insight, Father! I enjoyed your reaction. (I don’t know if Anglicans are called Father so forgive me if I am mistaken.)
Father is one thing people call me 😂
But yes Anglican priests can be known as Father! Thanks for your encouragement 🙂
The Black Riders can indeed cross water. It's just that the river was very deep, and the Hobbits were already far enough out into the river that the horses of the 9 could not follow willingly.
They cannot. They don’t have real bodies and Ulmo is the holy being in charge of all waters and the waters contain the song that created the world. The Ainulindalë
@@Makkaru112 They can. They cross it in the next part of this video....
@@Xerrand until they get washed away and their bodies get lost and have to be reformed by dark versions of shamans, orcs and black númenoreans or Sauron himself who in the books had a physical body at this point but the movies made him i into just a disembodied flame with his shadowy form in the middle forming an iris…
@@Xerrand let me explain a little bit. Here is why they can’t and wouldn’t. Especially as former Númenorean men of great stature who’d know of Ulmo’s presence and the protections of nature and other presences around Imladris/Rivendell. - Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
The wraiths are afraid of the water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, and Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths.
Here is why they can’t and wouldn’t. As former Númenorean men of great stature who’d know of Ulmo’s presence + the protections of nature and other presences around Imladris/Rivendell. - Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
The wraiths are afraid of the water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, and Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths.
hello fake Priest im president of France .
Gandalf like four other wizards were messengers of the valar (angel-like beings that reside in Valinor, a sort-of paradise physically removed from middle-earth) to help and guide the men and elves against the evil. They are all maiar (lesser angels) and therefore also immortal in the sense that their spirit can not die. But since the valar did not want to force their help onto the races of middle-earth, their messengers had to be weak in their physical form and apperance as not to over-power anyone. That is the reason for them to appear as old men limited in power by the age of their bodies. And that is also why especially Saruman fails in his task, because instead of serving men and elves as a guide with no goals of his own, he strives to gain power for himself, much as Sauron also does. The whole book is esentially a fight between the free will of the men and elves (and hobbits) and the evil forces to dominate them and extinguish all free thought and will.
What’s interesting is that all 16 rings were meant to go to the elves ( which lead to 300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Kelebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Satan or at least the Christian version is more like Morgoth the previous Dark Lord who sort to undo creation and rebuild it to his own design. Sauron is a lesser fallen angel. He is sort of like a satanic fan boy. He wants the universe to stay but he wants control over it. He is a tempter. There is a biblical character called The Tempter who is often conflated with Satan. But originally these were all different characters that the medieval church simplified into The Devil. Chucking in the Eden Serpent as well.
Though in every interview Tolkien hated things like this constantly pushed upon him and his scholarly work to revive ancient knowledge and cultures etc.
Serpent is twisted version of serpent knowledge culture of India which still thrives and it’s nothing to do with evil. A lot of what those folks have done is steal others folklore after conquering and rebranding it all and giving it back after a few generations and teaching how evil and scary things are.
I would love your reaction to Star wars lots of very deep messages in the story
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition:
(1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition
(2) The Two Tower Extended Edition
(3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
It have more Slavic Mythology then Christian, Tolkin never hide that
Exactly. Let me explain further! Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford.
He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed.
I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work.
A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away.
It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten.
His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well.
Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films.
Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions.
The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas.
To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE.
His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things.
Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life.
The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English.
He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish)
They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series.
World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on TH-cam & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99.
I’d also like to explain Gandalf a bit too: Tolkien drew alot of inspiration from the norse mythology. Magical rings, Gandalf (Staff elf in old norse), Gandalfs outfit (Odin), Gandalfs title 'the grey wanderer' (Odin), Shadowfaxe (The horses of day and night Rhimfaxe and Skinfaxe), Trolls, elves, dwarves etc.
* Odin had a legendary horse, Sleipnir, who had eight legs and was said to be one of the greatest horses known to the gods. Gandalf had Shadowfax, who had no equal among horses in Middle-earth and could understand the speech of men.
* Ødin’s legendary gear-the spear Gungnir and the ring Draupnir-could have influenced Gandalf’s legendary sword Glamdring or, more likely, the magic staff he carries, while the ring possibly influenced Gandalf’s possession of the ring Narya (Sturlson 145).
* Gandalf and Odin both receive new wisdom as a result of sacrifice, as Gandalf is reincarnated after his fight with the Balrog, and Ødin gains power and wisdom after hanging himself on the tree Yggdrasil for nine days (Sigfusson 80-85).
* One of the most apparent ways in which Gandalf and Ødin are alike is that they both take the shape of an old grey pilgrim, with a wide-brimmed hat and grey cloak when they wander the mortal world and deal with the inhabitants (Pitts 7).
* Gandalf and Ødin are virtually reflections of each other, as can be observed through examining their gear and animal companions, the way they sacrificed themselves and were rewarded with wisdom, and the fact that they walk the earth as old men in tattered clothing.
The Renowned Steeds of Gandalf and Odin
Gandalf and Ødin both have renowned horses and staves with magical properties. Odin carries the legendary spear Gungnir, which is said never to miss its mark when thrown (Sturlson 145); however, he also carries it as his staff when he wanders the earth as an old man.
In the Poetic Edda, the Valkyrie Sigrdrifa advises Sigurd about the magical application of runes and tells him that there are runes inscribed on the tip of Gungnir (Sigfusson 291). This spear could be a parallel to Glamdring( High Elven King Turgon’s sword, that was forged for the Goblin wars but is most likely influential to the staff Gandalf carries on his journeys.
Strikingly similar to Shadowfax, Odin possesses a legendary horse named Sleipnir, who has eight legs and can run on the ground and through the air at great speeds. This sounds very similar, in some ways, to Tolkien’s description of Shadowfax in The Two Towers, “Shadowfax tossed his head and cried aloud as if a trumpet had summoned him to battle. Then he sprang forward. Fire flew from his feet; night rushed over him” (Tolkien 228).
Elden Ring, Dungeons And Dragons, Diablo, Zelda, Harry Potter, vamp diaries, Red Sonja, Oath Breakers, Dragon Lance, Willow, Conan, Swords and Magic, Highlander movie+series and so much more were inspired by Tolkiens works.
Lhang - name of The great elvish swords you see in the prologue being used in that frontline ebbing flowing strike formation tactic. This shows the skill of these warriors. Some are hundreds to thousands of years old. Their timeless prowess was caught on film perfectly. Awesome right?
noun: cutlass, sword
Cognates:
ᴹQ. lango “broad sword; prow of a ship” ✧ Ety/LAG
Derivations
ᴹ√LAG “*cut” ✧ Ety/LAG
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages lhang [laŋgo] > [laŋg] > [l̥aŋg] > [l̥aŋ] ✧
lang (sword), plural> [Laing]
lanc: [throat] (hinting at being deadly throat cutters when one knows how to wield these specific elvish blades against heavily armoured orcs with keen precision!)
(neck), pl. lainc, coll. pl. langath.
Note: homophones mean ”naked” and also ”sharp edge, sudden end, brink.
So they are blades that “bring enemies to the sudden brink of death” in a sense.
Elves have the light of valanor kinda like heaven inside of them so yeah you can say they have angelic powers in them some elves the high elves do i mean the elves like legolas don't have that but ones like elrond or arwen do
The elves like Legolas’ father and great cousin which was high elven king of all middle earth. The elves awoken to the stars in Middle Earth, the HitherLands is what they’re known as, Endor by the Noldor etc. so All elves have this ability and essence about them!
I’ll further explain my first comment ok? Lady Arwen calls upon the powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen to rise up as a defense against the evil Ringwraiths. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
-
“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
The wraiths are afraid of the water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard. The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, and Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths.
The song heard when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo&Sam near the beginning of the movie: The chanting a very special Hymn to make their journey most safe:(With English translation) * Á Elbereth Gilthoniel - “o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* silivren penna míriel - “from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels”
* Ò menel aglar elenath
“from heaven on high the glory of the starry host”
* na-chaered palan-díriel
“to lands remote I have looked afar”
ò galadhremmin ennorath
“from tree-tangled middle-lands”
* Fanuilos, le linnathon
“and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing”
* nef aear, sí nef aearon
“here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea”
* Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel²
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* Ò menel palan-diriel
“from heaven gazing far”
* le nallon sí di’nguruthos
“here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry”
* Á tiro nin, Fanuilos
“o guard me, Elbereth”
(The elvish name given to Varda is Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being and helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons)
It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age. Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob & OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤
Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty"
Elentári means queen of the stars in Quenya. Elbereth means queen of the stars in Sindarin. Gilthoniel means kindler of the stars in Sindarin.
An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar)
When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion, (one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this honorific name seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
The movies are masterpieces but they do Isildur some unintentional injustice. (To show consistency of the power of the ring), In book he NEVER succumbs to the ring, he instead spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails.
In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy!
* He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro.
* • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse).
Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good.
* They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself.
They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars !
Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am)
This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations?
People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc.
(JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth.
Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work.
Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.
When will part 2 be out so I can watch them together ?
I hope by Thursday 👍🏼
You know I have my own beliefs but I'm fascinated by all religions. So it was interesting watching your take on it. Something that caught My eye what's the it seemed you were so consumed with trying to find the coalition between Christianity in the story that I feel like you missed several things. Say for instance, I never saw you once giggle or laugh at any of the humor in it.
Such a hot handsome priest omg Father Ihave sinned :P
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17 Oscar movie world record , best movie in the world , movie made though the cathlolic bible and has loads of information in official Wikipidia too , Love to see a Priest reacting to the greatest love this content keep it up, heads up new movie is coming out of lord of the rings , Hunt for Gollum 2026 , Aragon and Gandalf coming back cant wait .
OK..a lot to unpack here. Tolkien wanted to create a mythology for England, not re-invent Christianity, which for him would have been redundant, absurd, and even heretical. He also despised allegory but admitted that some of his moral stories may have had a measure of applicability in some instances, such as his WW1 personal history in the trenches.
You have some interesting observations from a Christian point, but you're jumping the gun way too early on many of them. The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings are specific stories of Middle-Earth. The Silmarillion is its Book of Genesis if you will. All 3 works must be taken into consideration as a whole.
I do not claim to know Tolkein's philosophy intimately, but I am confident of this: He would be absolutely apoplectic if every little twist and turn of his story was construed as some kind of major spiritual revelation. Relax. Some things are just a well-written story or plot twist, not the musings of Kierkegaard or even a Neitzche. The 20th Century was replete with endless prophecies of doom, some acquired from nothing more than suspicious ringtones. Please tell me you're not going there. You can do a lot better.
The movie is fun, but if you really want to delve into Tolkien himself and claim to represent his intentions, then at least read the books first.
JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis developed Middle Earth and Narnia through correspondence with each other. I believe Tolkien's was the initial idea, but they developed their goals together.
Their idea was to create a healing European mythology to replace the indigenous oral traditions that had been lost to Roman colonization and Christianity from the Levant. It was their idea that this was a continent-wide trauma which Europeans repeated in their own colonization of the wider world, like a beaten child growing up to be a child-beater themselves. That all of the centuries-long constant European infighting, the First World War, and the creeping authoritarianism of their time, were artifacts of that lost binding mythology which left a gap in their social understanding.
Tolkien sought to write a mythology that would replace what was missing by starting from an idealized culture. He created his Elves, their language, and culture, generalized from linguistics and mythology from all over the world, especially Europe, idealized from both modern and ancient understandings. Lewis sought to create a primal mythology by reverse engineering the modern Christian perspective, supposing an older belief native to Europe which would naturally lead to our contemporary metaphysics. Both thought the best way to heal the gap in understanding was to start with children. So, Tolkien introduced his massive sweeping mythology in *The Hobbit* first, which is the major tour de force in literary terms.
As they continued their conversation and developed story arcs, Tolkien found that his stories appealed to a much more mature understanding, while Lewis continued to develop Narnia in mostly YA terms (and largely nowhere near as successfully). Many critics and scholars have drawn a line from the *New Testament* through the Arthurian Grail Myths straight to *The Lord of the Rings* as clearly on the contemporary forefront of Western metaphysics and moral philosophy. This was an oft cited reason that the trilogy was given the Book of the Millennium by many noted book groups, reviewers, and online forums, at the turn of the century (even before the movies were out).
The movies depart widely from the books, but any mythology worth anything grows in the retelling. You can see the inspired love in the crafting of these movies. And I can feel it, as can many. I cherish these stories, and I really appreciate the way you approach them.
In Tolkien's mythology, the entire physical world was "ruined" by his Satanic figure Melkor, who, during the forming of the world, put forth his inherent evil into all of the physical substances of the earth, making everything (including Men and Elves, who were born of the world and used it's products to sustain life) tainted and imperfect. It was said that of all the substances, water remained the most pure and untainted, and it still contained echos of the "Music of the Ainur" which was a spiritual precursor to the existence of the world. And interestingly, gold was said to contain the *most* of Melkor's evil, hence it being the root of many evils in the world.
My comment may seem shallow, but I have to share that it's almost uncanny how much you remind me of Ryan Gosling.
I hope you are happily married and are looking forward to having many children.
I love your reaction. Thank you for your kind words.
God bless🙏
You need to judge less and observe more before passing comment good sir!
I’m not sure that would be something people would want to watch…. A priest just looking at a screen and not speaking?
@@MrPriestcontent I agree. However you are not speaking about what you are seeing. You are judging what you see and coming to conclusions without understanding enough to come to them.
Maybe watch other reaction youtubers who are very successful.
I am not trying to be against you on this, but trying to help.
I love Shaun Bean TV show Sharp plus my favorite part when Sharp hate thieves, murderers, rapists I think he called them the offsprings of Barabbas. Let me know where I can see that show “Sharp”
Great reaction. I really enjoyed your comentary. It is very interesting to see the perspective of a devoted catholic.
I am not sure if the Shire was meant to have a deeper religious meaning. It is mostly Tolkien's childhood world of pre-industrialized British countryside. A world that was forever changed by ww1 and a world that will no longer exist. Maybe it could be described as an imagery for heaven that can not exist in the physical world but only in the spiritual world. Gandalf has a more direct image of an Angel or Archangel. He obeys and serves God and is sent to earth to help humanity but he is also instructed not to get too involved and to mainly guide and advice them.
actually when Gandalf first time going to Minas Tirith it was long like 17 years in the books, amazing
If you read the Silmarillion, it is literally an alternate interpretation of the devine story of creation as it is found in so many ancient scriptures, including the books of the bible. Very very interesting read that is. So you might want to have a look at that, if you haven't already.
1. You should look into Tolkien’s actual creation myth it parallels the bible even more than the beginning of this movie
2. Yes Gandalf is Jesus
There was nothing about the nazgul and warer in the books, but there are a few explanations I can give. First, running water is dangerous and horses may have a sense not to go into it without a degree of caution. Second, there is hesitation to cross the Ford of Bruinen because of the power radiating from the elves and the power that governs the natural border of Rivendell.
Of course that Gandalf is not a God. He's a Maiar (Angel). Eru Iluvatar is a God in world of Tolkien.
I am curous as to your view on the Hobbit
I just loved this .. brilliant . Loved the Insight about prayer and carrying our cross but needing others to help us in the challenges . The elves being angels , and being careful about spiritual doors being open to a negative spirituality. Thankyou , this has made me want to watch the film !
I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school, but i have not believed in Christianity for about 20 years now. Bit even so, i can still appreciate the story telling of Christianity and thought it was pretty interesting seeing a priest tie that story in to, what i believe is, the greatest story ever told lol
The way I've often looked at it is that each of the heroes in LOTR represent different aspects of Christ made manifest in different scenarios and contexts.
they can touch water but the river was to deep and the undercurrent is to strong for the horse to swim. the river is the border between human and elven land and they can't cross unless invited (come and claim him).
Yes, LOTR is very Biblical in nature, Evil vs Good, God's will of creation, incarnation so and so
I think its interesting that the ringwraiths fear water and fire which are symbols of the Holy Spirit, but I can't recall if there is a reason for that in the books or if it's just their nature
Read the silmarillion before any judgment. I actually like the fictional creation better than any creationist religion.
I'm not religious much, but I grew up in the church and was an alter boy. My mother goes to church every day and sent me articles about Tolkien being so Christian, and it helps us connect. I'm happy to find a channel like this. Also great to see a mate trying to build a bridge like this. We can actually all get along
Thanks for the encouragement @lukegraham317 great to hear that faith still resonates with you in some ways! Hope you enjoy my future content 👍🏼
@@MrPriestcontent I'm actually very much looking forward to it. I will always say that I don't have the answers. And when I have mates that are close to my age I wonder more and hope that there is more. But I'm very happy that you gave a very good perspective upon the story and it's relation toward his faith.
@@MrPriestcontent He wrote many forwards that it wasn’t to do with it but people could freely connect with applicability but not allegory. He was reviving ancient knowledge. Language and culture of several countries. As a love letter to England. Arthurian legends and culture. Olde English. Anglo Saxon language and culture what was harmed greatly by the Norman invasion of 1610… but yes. Applicability vs allegory interview of Tolkien was top notch.
Fire in the background makes me wonder why more people don't do that.
Thanks for that encouragement, although I guess most people don’t have a fireplace made in 1673 ☺️
@@MrPriestcontent Its a vibe! Fits the movie perfect also.
Romans 7: Everyman's battle.
Also the Nasgul can go in water, it's just unpleasant to them, same as orcs and sublight.😊
powers of the Misty Mountains and the river Bruinen rose up as a defense against the evil. It is a moving reminder of how the Elves once lived in harmony with the lands and waters, able to communicate with spirits of nature.
Even now, glimpses remain of their ancient abilities, though fading as the Third Age comes to a close.
when lessons in Sindarin reveal deeper insights into the history and cultures of Middle-Earth.
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“Waters of the Misty Mountains, listen to the great word, flow waters of Loudwater, against the Ringwraiths.”
The wraiths are afraid of the water itself which contains the song of creation of the entire world. All water does. Same as our world which is our Midgard.
The Ainulindalë. And the main Ainu of the waters is Ulmo, and Númenorean Men’s patron “deity” of sorts who loves all of middle earth and the peoples of all of Arda.
They don’t have physical bodies so if they entered the water they’d have to essentially be reconstituted either by Sauron himself or some sort of Orc or black Númenorean shaman or they’ll take some time to reform themselves as the fan never have a body.
They are passing into Elrond's domain also which is super sacred and highly sanctified and hallowed ground filled with the pristine energies of the old world. Where the very air you breath is electrified, full of life. The trees gleam with more brightness and so forth, they commune with the elves in many ways and even several men who have the sensibilities to do so.
The land around Rivendell is infused with the magic of Vilya, Elrond's Ring of Power which is why the elven domains (Rivendell and Lothlorien) still have the magic that is mostly lost from the rest of Middle Earth. They fear Elrond and the power of his ring so they hesitate but ultimately continue. I think Arwen is literally calling on the Bruinen river to help her repel the wraiths.
Please forgive me for pointing this out, as a side note to the topic in the video. But, why do priests not ever notice that when they do the sign of the cross, more often than not they are actually signing an inverted (upside-down) cross! With all do respect, i myself am a non-denominational Christian so this doesn't come from any slight whatsoever. Though it always throws me off and kinda gets under my skin that they can't see that they are doing this. Im sorry to say but you as well do it at the close of the video and i wonder if you know you're doing so? Not to be offensive, just an observation. Loved the context of your reaction though, very insightful. Thank you
Hey @King_Zer1 I guess I don’t ever overthink the shape my movement of hand makes as then it becomes a little to robotic 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for liking reaction 🙂
Just finished watching this beautiful reaction and now I feel very content.
I read the books, they are my most precious trilogy in my book shelf and the movies are even better in my humble opinion.
Side note, I do not believe in god, but what's odd is the fact that I feel some sense of (devine) protection when I see or meet men and women of god.
Every day when I take the bus to work we drive past a beautiful simple little church. I can't help but look up to the cross at the top of the church tower, smile and feel very calm.
Isn't that weird?
Not believing in some devine being up in the sky yet feeling that there is _something_ that makes me feel peaceful inside...
Thanks for watching and saying you got something from it!
I think it sounds like God is at work revealing himself to you in subtle but meaningful ways. You should take that journey, look a little closer!
Sharpe was a wonderful series which I also enjoyed immensely.
Oh ya, there's evil in this story. You're trying to use this as a religious thing and it's not! Dude your terrible at this however i give you kudos for giving it a shot!
Just stop and be REAL.
Hey @graciearchangel3171 thanks for taking time to comment. What am i terrible at? I'm eager to learn?